Zen is Him
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That first game where Zen had 795 points, BDS collectively actually had 794 points.
And he out scored his 2 teammates combined (or almost)
Holy moly
Damn. That's a beautiful observation.
Sorry bro, I love Zen and he totally deserves the recognition... but point counting is just the worst way to estimate a player contribution, especially in 3v3.
You are not credited by the system for any awesome anticipation actions, for bumps, for positioning. Midfield actions are basically not credited, patience skills are not, defensive actions are rarely, offensive actions are only half of the times, being generous with it. Communication quality (being a team captain, being supportive, being a motivator, being a rock during shitty situations, etc.) are obviously not taken in account. Meanwhile, actual stupid action (or inaction) aren't either. Mistakes doesn't cost anything in points to this player, leading to overestimate the score of the ones who play the most aggressively and dangerously, without any actual good balance.
All in all it ends up meaning nothing. Absolutely nothing. You could argue any sort of information has potential intel, but it's a well known fact in statistics and human science: shit in, shit out.
@@huyxiun2085 ain't nobody got time to read your paragraph bro
Zens ability to implement slight speed and tempo changes in his play is so underrated. Caught every opponent off guard by just delaying his touches by fractions of a second
his ability to NOT get stuffed on the wall is incredible. everytime they prejumped his wall takeoff, he was able to get around them with exactly what you were saying, tempo and timing.
The takeof at 4:06 is a great example of this... most other players would either end up in a 50-50 against Seikoo, or just loose a little too much speed in faking the first touch and not be able to carry such a great air dribble
@@mateusgapski1327 that was the exact example that made me start looking for it. I was like "he's about to get stuffed so hard", and all of a sudden he has an actually good carry towards the backboard.
@@spforevr11 I looked for it only after reading your comment, so great perception of yours!
At 1:07 that transition between being in an uncomfortable defensive position all the way to scoring just 4sec later is just so underrated. Read the game in milliseconds and transformed a lost ball into a goal for themselves in the space of a square inch.
Finally someone said it, was incredibly disappointed how little recognition that first touch got on the broadcast!
this is routine mate
Yeah that's the epitome of confidence. an extremely precise and difficult touch that would have lead to goal if he missed it
@@bloodybackfat actually the last time I left a comment like this on that move I got a ***tload of dislikes of people screaming "wtf are u saying this is completely normal already in GC2", like the MrCooliocod uphere saying "this is routine".
@MrCooliocod show a clip of you doing it then.
I’m honestly a little shocked you didn’t spend more time / replay the pre jump at 3:35
He jumped for that ball before Rise even initiated. IMO that was damn near the biggest brain play in the entire tournament. I have watched that goal 100 times from the original broadcast just trying to predict what ~might~ have happened had Rise got any other sort of touch on it.
Fucking phenomenal.
This right here! I watched that replay like 100 times also, wondering how the in hell one could read that! Sheesh.
1:54 is insane. Catch it midair get a flip off the ceiling airdribble with low boost into a 50 in front of the net with no boost. Zen's entire gameplay just looks effortless.
it's almost unbelievable how smooth it is. like this kid was born to play rocket league there's no doubt in my mind
that pre-jump at 3:35 is insane
Broo wtff
That alone isn't impressive, what impresses me is the consistency of plays like that, collectively it's impressive. No doubt he is the best in the world right now.
How.......
routine mate
@@sabnox9869no no, that alone is far more than just impressive, he’s up before the ball was even hit. He read it before the player even knew what he was going to do
1:39 the control touch into a complete reversal of momentum off the ceiling is so creative
the prejump on Rise at 3:35 is absolutely insane. well before Rise even touches the ball, he's already up on the ceiling waiting for it. you knew it was over right there in game 1.
Confidence is an understatement. The kid own goaled on the biggest stage of his career, didn’t take a time out, and managed to turn it all around and prove to everyone that he’s the best. Glad you’re feeling better though, ngl I missed you’re casting in the finals but CJCJ killed it and was awesome with Shogun
the way johnny boi can hold a conversation with himself is crazy
The fact that vitality never went to a game 7 in the whole world championship is crazy
The best part of the tournament was definitely the KC and Vitality ultras making that atmosphere. Felt like a Bayern v Dortmund game.
I was sitting right above the karmine ultras - they were actually polite, which I give them kudos for
@@DanielAlbuschatit is just car football (soccer) after all
🇨🇵
European fans build different
@@DanielAlbuschatyou mean when they weren’t chanting « fuck vita in the ass », « we don’t give a fuck » during players interviews and straight up hijacking unrelated games with KC chants? The most polite thing they did from my pov was to boycott the arena when their team was not playing…
I mean, his mechanics are clearly otherworldly, I don't think anyone is questioning that. but vitality's rotation and ability to keep pressure is actually insane. they were always in the right place, they almost never got in each other's way (except for the occasional awkward post-kickoff shuffle), there was always someone to follow up in the offensive third, and they are all AMAZING at carrying the ball out of their half to relieve pressure. mechanics obviously help with all of that, but this team just gels perfectly.
thats because zen also happens to have god tier comms (not to discredit alpha and rado, they're insane too)
@@thingsnbits Lol the vitality comm when u watch de coms replay are not that good, Alpha's com is god tier, but they are just insane and understand each other without talking.
When watching it from their opponents POV, Vitality suffocated every team with constant pressure. It is understandable to see in a series but with Vitality they suffocated every team they faced. Amazing teamwork and historical achievement.
Zen and alpha are imo the best and 4th best players in the world at making solo plays, so they can play much more cautiously then other teams while still generating high levels of offense
They basically never overcommit because they rarely have to
Feer vs JohnnyBoi I appjack commentary
Yes
yes
Still on board with that idea.
These comments are everywhere its annoying
yeeees
Ive been keeping up with rlcs for about 5 years and no one blows my mind like zen. I keep reading lame critics saying dont believe the hype but they are clinically braindead. Zen IS him.
Even if he never won an event again his hype would already be justified.
The triple commit 😂 2:50
This is why BDS lost, this is why every team is losing. Wasting boost for no god damn reason because they're not communicating and they don't trust their teammates, so many pro teams look like they might as well be a solo q ranked team
That’s just the Zen effect😂 Like everytime he goes up, players always shit themselves
Zen/Vitality were just so dang likable. I wanted NA to win at first, then BDS I thought, but with each win and segment on VIT they kept making me a bigger fan. Congrats to VIT. What a show they put on to end the season.
Sorry about the illness Johnny! Loved your commentary pre,during, and now post tournament.
You are definitely my favorite esports media person these days. So thanks from a random internet person.
Zen is neo, Zen is the one and he is hacking our matrix
Thats right. Thats why Jorby called him Mr Physics, he bends reality to his will.
That's actually a great comparison
Then who would be Agent Smith? Rise maybe? Smith wasn't just the antagonist, he was Neo's anti, not in strength but in beliefs.
Zens decision making and every single touch seems to be nigh on perfect. He’s so lethal in every situation, incredible player to watch.
knowing what he can do in 1v1, it makes his clinical 3v3 playstyle even more impressive.
Zen achieved a zen state
Johnnyyy so sad we did not get more of your casting this Worlds, you make watching games so much better!
Will you be doing a post World top 25 players? I always want to see how the panel feels about their predictions after the fact
Yeah I was disappointed he didn't cast any of the games the final day
I definitely noticed your point about vitality embracing the celebration. If they had the emotions of the old c9 roster this run would not be as fun
Old c9 were literally 3 npcs, that's why I found it so hard to be a fan
@@mrgoose3453fr they were literal robots
It's funny how Zen is like "i like to play RL, and if i can win, anyone can." Uh no buddy, you're not just anybody, you're Zen haha
Some people just pickup games faster and Are More talented, like i have almost same hours and never reach ssl :) But ofc im like 10+years older
because you play to play, you dont play to get better, thats why u never improve and u progress slowlier, value ur time more when youre playing, focus on getting better at different mechanics, use workshop maps etc.. everyone can get ssl if they practice the right way. @@mikaelmiikael9368
I loved radosin in the finals. His ball chasing and absolute forcing goals was so fun to watch
Yeah that was insane, I think he won every single 50-50 he had lol
This series reminded of the end of The Matrix when Neo becomes the One and Agent Smith can't lay a finger on him. They saved their best for last, and can honestly say that we'll probably never see another pro accomplish what Zen just pulled off the last 3 months. Unreal that he can come in and dominate as a rookie with the competition being as high as it is these days.
Glad you're feeling better, Johnny.. Here's a palindrome for ya:
Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog!
Doesn't make any sense but nice once
@@nashh600 it's silly, but it's one of my favorites 😜
@@nashh600most palindromes don't lol
Thats a nice palindrome
@@TheSourovAqib I wish I could take credit, but I actually heard it in the extra features on the DVD of Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me 👍
Zen is just the complete package. He’s the most mechanical, best first touches, great positioning, smart 50/50s. He is by far the greatest player at the moment.
I saw some fans online who were saying this was the worst worlds ever, and I cajbsee where they are coming from with little diversity. However I myself thought the last series was especially hype, it felt like a poetic ending that Zen got his win, and what a crazy level they played at. It felt so deserved (although I felt a tad bad for BDS) but this really felt like Vitalitys lan to win and it was so deserved
@@jbb-mq1pgi think utter domination makes it fun
@@mikaelmiikael9368if its ur team winning, even then it gets boring at one point
Might be alone on this and maybe im missing something but I feel like this wasn't a good tourny for MENA. Not because I don't think they are good enough to show up, but just because they didn't show up nearly as much as I think they could have. I feel like on their day, their best teams are even better than NA's best teams (I'm NA don't complain). I feel like Rule One, if they're on form, could have easily made top 4. Seeing them at Boston and knowing the rate at which they have been improving lately I don't feel like top 4 is a stretch. But they kinda flopped out because they couldn't stand up to NA teams, which I feel like was a major mix up. I thought they would have had both spacestation and G2 locked down. Idk, I'm curious to hear others thoughts?
I mean, yeah, they didn’t perform to their peak, but that’s to be expected when they only send one team to majors and the region as a whole is still very early in its development.
Consistency will improve, especially if they get more spots, and even with underperforming, they outplaced Sam.
At this point it’s pretty clearly ludicrous that Sam has more spots than them, and let’s not even talk about oce.
That’s a big improvement from last year. So yeah, could’ve gone better, but still huge for the region.
@@ziadkhayat7299 see I feel like falcons and rule one saw your comment. And wanted to show you what I meant. 4-0 vitality. 2 MENA teams in the top 4. This is the skill that I saw on their teams. This was my expectations for these rosters.
@@francisbout1311 that event has very little meaning to RLCS. Of course mena will shine on home soil with a format favoring teams with strong 1v1 and 2v2 players. And everything pretty much being bo1s only further decreases the expectations of RLCS rankings being preserved.
It’s a good sign, but not very meaningful for next season.
@@ziadkhayat7299 you must know how much bullsh*t you just spewed. There's no shot you actually think something that dumb. Honestly I couldn't imagine having a thought this profoundly dumb. Let's just leave it till next season and see.
I'm from North America and my favorite teams are GenG and Vitality. But it doesn't take a genius to see that NEMA has already surpassed NA as the second best region and are on their way to fully challenging EU.
You are such a Zen fanboy... And it's communicative! I am too because of you!
I'm biased since I'm French... But with the current amount of excellent French players, that hardly could be the reason.
I personally tend to prefer the underdog, the unexpected, the team player rather than the flashy player.
But Zen is everything of that. Both flashy yet humble. Both hyped yet underdog.
To me, the most important part is he has no issue playing the uncredited, unrewarding, boring actions that will help the team. Of course he is extremely impressive because of his mechanics and so on, and he will play on that when the opportunity arise. But extremely impressive mechanical players, we have seen a lot. Meanwhile Zen put his skills at the service of the team, that is why I went from "ho, this guy is interesting" to "ok, this guy is actually great".
Also Alpha is a very similar player in my opinion. And Radosin is very much the team player. That's why I very much prefer Vitality over other teams. When you watch their game, you can feel the synergy flowing.
Zen's own goal was absolutely hilarious
I became a Vitality fan because of Fairy Peak's domination during your Mannfield night 5k tourney back in 2018. This has been such a fun 3 months
I’m glad to hear you give kudos to Radosin and Alpha54 for their performance as well because the whole Vitality team played out of their minds.
Now it just seems like Zen got himself banned on purpose to let the rest feel like there was a real chance. Let's see what they come up with to s̶t̶o̶p̶ slow down Zen next season...
The fact that vitality signed him almost 2 years ago is insane, they knew this kid had something special
This vitality roster’s ability to constantly pressure on offense while having little to no defensive blunders reminds me of those old dignitas games from the days of old. Would love to see vitality run a dynasty for as long as gale force/dignitas did back then
zen more confident on the ceiling than i am on the ground
Honestly the most impressive part of their performance during RLCS is that both alpha and radohsin had huge improvements in their mechanical game. It's clear that playing with Zen is making them better at being mechanical and also at predicting what others can do mechanically. Playing with and against Zen must have taught them a lot during scrims and practice and it really shows in the plays alpha and radohsin were going for.
I wonder who was responsible for vitality picking up Zen so early?
WELCOME TO THE AGE OF ZEN
should be the video title tbh
Great video and I like the call to upload it. It’s very very rare that you have someone so skilled in a video game that changes the dynamic of the game so much that every other competitor is left thinking “how the hell did we just loose that badly”. 10/10
Im hopeful for whichever team that gets Nwpo next season
Isn’t Nwpo still signed to rule one?
@@nix5134nope. Was originally teaming with the twins but got banned well before rule one came into the picture.
@@ziadkhayat7299 alright, we’ll I hope they sign him I really think that Rule One needs a zen type player, they already have the defence they just need a threatening offence.
Props to the whole team though. zen is undeniably a monster but his teammates do a damn good job of playing to his strengths
That jump and read at 1:07 was pretty good. I can't even read that if I was coming straight from behind the play...
3:30 the reeeaaaddsss
Very excited to see Zen vs RW9 and Zen vs Daniel 1v1s and Gamers8
And also Feer vs JohnnyBoi I with appjack commentary
@@COVID_Is_Not_Over_Yet fr
Johnny why didn't you cast the grand finals? I love CJCJ, but you and Shogun are something else.
his voice was really bad the day before, I'm guessing it wasn't better the day of finals
He got sick
he said his voice was better but not 100% on the Sunday so didn't want to risk it. was good to see and meet a lot of the RL community and fans in the pubs in Alstadt afterwards, was some event.
CJCJ did an awesome job at building and sustaining hype throughout the 4 games. Often I prefer the more measured and slow paced conversational style of casting, and Johnny is my number 1 especially for the way he contenxtualises series and develops narratives. Yet here, I liked the way Shogun and CJCJ complimented each other and had many quotable moments, especially for a historic final!
Zen is great but what makes Vitality special is the fact that they all know how to play their role very well
let’s go new zen lore just dropped
The age of zen is here. But will it last with the long break and the world champion title.
Yes
There should be Zen tier above SSL.
3:35 that pre-jump ceiling bounce read into net... wtf.
It really is insane to see. He reacts to each part of it BEFORE it happens. He's in the air before the ball is touched. He got the wide angle PERFECTLY, no adjustments needed. The Z axis was off slightly, since it bounced, but you can see him recognize that it's going to bounce, and points downward before it hits the ceiling. Crazy read, damn near prescience.
Do you think BDS were a little off in the grand finals or is Vitality that good? BDS just didn’t seem like they were focused, but maybe that’s because they just couldn’t play against this top team.
A little of both, I think.
small things like 6:46 are the smooth things that display his unique control
His positioning is godly, kid is smart
Bro is simply built different
4:30 Remember when coaches say that a high clear is often better? Yeah not anymore... cause any high clear is just a chance for Zen to take it and absolutely style on you. Any time the ball gets launched into the air, I'm pretty sure all of his opponents are shitting their pants. The kid's just insane.
Bros experimenting rocket league in worlds
Sooo speedy with sooo much control.
It's insane
Alpha and rad both deserve some praise, the 3 kings of rl
Alpha is also one of the best players in rocket league, rad is good but he's not great , tho he did completely school BDS in that final
@@Trepur349 RAD THE GOAT❤️❤️❤️
@lucgermain9310 Being on the best team doesn't automatically make you the best player. Zen is probably the best player of all time and Alpha54 is top 10 in rocket league today. With a good teammate they're enough to be the best team in rocket league
@lucgermain9310 Maybe we have different definitions of great, I'd probably say he was ~20th best player at the final week of worlds, which had 48 players
That makes him a good pro player, not a great one imo
He’s faster than everyone else and he’s a genius as far as the game is concerned. He sees the ceiling balls instantly. Terrifying.
3:34 has gotta be the most outrageous prejump I’ve ever seen
the thing about zen is the efficiency of play, its basically dandroid, but he's just doing it all the time, barely ever flipping or airrolling out of habit just doing it when he needs to be in a better position, its almost like watching a leveled up version of nexto play
@johnnyboi was the cold the reason you didnt cast any games after the wild card ? Bc i hope to see you cast games in rlcs, you are the best caster, especially together with shogun
After Vitality vs KC I knew the final whoever it is will be a blow out.
I've said this since the beginning of his acknowledgement. On the rlcs streams and even prior, in 3rd person he looks like a normal pro. Until you watch his POV and you realize how much more advanced his movement is, it's insane
where can you watch gamers8?
Rise was doing all the shit talking just to get smacked in the end 😂😂😂
Thanks for the shout-out! Loved the atmosphere and people cheering for good RL ❤ Didn't like the boos tho, especially towards Faze Clan - the players didn't deserve that.
i was there live and ngl it was really quiet. only the final was little louder
9 shots from BDS in the first game. Felt like maybe one
New Seazen soon. Stay tuned
❤
Vitality suffocated every team with constant pressure. It is understandable to see in one series on a given day but with Vitality they suffocated every team they faced. It felt completely one sided. Amazing teamwork and historical achievement.
Glad to see you got your voice back!
If Zen ends up on a team with Monkey Moon and Vatira, it's game over for everyone else.
thats not how it works buddy, 11 messis would get clapped by a normal main division team
@@thingsnbitsdamn... i wouldn't imagine see a comment like this once in my ENTIRE LIFE
I feel like gamers8 will be a MENA party im ngl. Now i could be proven wrong, but don't forget that zen will have to face his arch nemesis Rw9 who is 2-0 against him, and Rw9 + kileerz is a top duo as well + their 3's can beat a lot of teams. Honestly I think vitality will struggle in the 2's part of the tourney but will still go very far because of their 1's and 3's dominance. It's just teams like V1 and the mena boys are so dominant in 2's and 1's that it'll be hard for vitality for sure.
he’s not human
the fans looked incredible when i was watching online
love to see the game continue to keep growing
I think it's fair to say this BDS roster has a stamina issue. Every time they've played 2 Bo7s in a row:
SO - beat KC then 0-4 Liquid
SC - beat Moist then 0-4 KC
SI - beat HM then 1-4 Vit
SM - 2-4 Vit then 1-4 Vit
WC - beat Liquid then 0-4 Vit
OKAY so they do turn the ball cam off, in rlcs they only show players with ball cam on?
Im an NA resident and i went to Dallas and i wanted to go down to congratulate BDS but the staff there wanted us out immediately…
How do you make zens car design?
Ngl need to see a nush 1v1 show match vs someone he is HIM
Zen haters down astronomically 🤣🤣😂😂💀
In other news the sky is blue
what’s the faze controversy?
Another great video Johnny
Bro finished rocket league in 3 months
Man good tourney. Reminded me of the OG Dignitas roster, that was a fun era
He is soooooooo good
7:00 back in the day I was dreaming to be able to do this. Never been a really mechanical player sadly.
How can I get more subs can any tell me how to do
Does anyone know how i make zens car design?
2:51 🤣
If you told me this POV was nexto 4.0 the perfect bot player I would not disagree. His movement, speed, mechanics everything are just out of this world, no one comes close with how precise yet insanely quick he is
Finally some post-worlds content :D thx champ
Zen is Him.
Zen is that guy pal