Resuscitation: Which IV Fluids to Choose
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
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A quick talk going over the contents and properties of 0.9% saline, Ringer's Lactate, and Plasma-Lyte/NormoSol.
Please use sound clinical judgment when using these fluids.
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eddyjoemd hi i am RN working in Surgical ward . Was wondering if you can provide me the data or study about the increased in cl level leading to decrease renal perfusion pls . Love wartching your videos on my days off I’m also waiting on my gamsat result to hopefully get in to meds hood this September
You elaborate well... Thank u.
Please go on without getting distracted by small uneventful things that happen during the video. I think no one among the watchlist minds it.
U r simply great....thank u....
From critical care medicine student.
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Oh my gosh, you are so real. Love it. It's nice that you aren't perfect in front of the camera. The information is very helpful and it makes sense. Thank you! Signed, a future nurse
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I'm a new ICU nurse with 3 years of Tele experience. I find your videos very informative and helpful. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to teach others. You're AWESOME! 👍
Thanks! Glad to help. Let me know what else you think may be helpful. Currently recording a batch of videos to release next month.
Loved this video! I am a new ER nurse at a level 1 trauma center and we only use LR in those patients. This was really helpful in understanding why LR can prevent the trauma triad of death!
Glad the video helped, Jillian! Keep working hard to understand the in's and out's of everything you do and you'll become one of those rockstar nurses in no time!
Current resident. Wish I could have you in the doc bubble when my attendings tell me to bolus patients who don't need it. Love the content, doc.
One subscriber added, the best explanation I ever heard about IV solutions, and the clinical experience and studies you talking about are what making the video THE BEST. Thank you ❤️🙏
Thanks alot. Really helpful. Kindly keep posting. I m from a resource limited country and it’s so much help to know how medicine is practiced in high resource places. U save lives on rounds but a-lot more of them by posting such videos as we try to reciprocate ur expertise, as per our circumstances. Thank u again
I really appreciate your explanation and tying the system together😊. Great explanation of AKI
I am in nursing school & I learned so much watching this thank you!!!
Very happy I can help, Allison! Share it with your classmates. Best of luck in school and thanks for choosing nursing. We NEED more people like you.
Thank you so much, how I wish my senior residents could explain like you
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I am a paramedic and Your videos are very informative ❤️keep up
Thanks for taking care of all those people you help daily!
I learned a lot about this video and know I’m more aware of what I give to my patients and give better suggestion for MD when I run rapid response role. I wish lytes fluid is more commonly used at everywhere
Thanks for having checked it out!
Thank you.. It's one of the best explanation on IV fluids.. As I have completed my residency. It will be of great use..
Very interesting info regarding the difference in the fluids. I'm a nurse and I work in a small rural hospital in a small ICU. (Also have only been out of school for 3 years). We are ALWAYS using 0.9% saline for our patients. I feel like the only time I see LR being used is on our surgical patients, ordered by the surgeons. I also feel sometimes like our docs aren't up to date with current practices/information unfortunately. Just discovered your channel, looking forward to checking out more of your videos. Thanks!
Mate your info is just so easy to absorb! Thanks for the free lecture, will sure help with my paramedic career! Please keep it up :)
My pleasure! Glad you got something out of it. Many new videos in the works!
I agree, his videos are so easy to focus on and understand
Nurses must know, especially in ICU and step down units, so if an intern just does NS they can request a more optimal fluid!
exactly!
Thank you for the very informative lecture...been trying to understand this topic for a while and your video really helped simplify it :) would really appreciate you providing your sources and studies mentioned. Thanks again and look forward to more of your lectures!
great cme update on iv fluids keep up cme stay blessed nice teaching
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pre PA here taking anatomy class... ended up here and loving it THANK YOU SO MUCH
My pleasure! Good luck!
Great information. Helped me during my rotations. No need to make to apologize for every imperfect detail.
+Lucas Beven glad you enjoyed the video!
thanks for your video, its great. But the reason for hyperK+ in DKA its another than acidosis itself, since organic metabolic acidosis dont cause per se hyperK+.
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Honestly have been subbed since eons but usually avidly follow you on IG instead. Been missing a lot more than I imagined on your YT. I'll read your posts in your actual voice from now lol.
Medic in the army thanks explanation far better then my instructors
Glad I was able to help!
Is there any change in data found now, 4 years later? If so, could you please do an updated video? If not, thank you for this information!
I’ve posted a couple posts on Instagram reviewing the newest data. I haven’t gotten around to creating a new video, though. You can follow me on IG @eddyjoemd.
Awesome awesome awesome! As a med student I REALLLLLLLY appreciate this info.
Glad you gained something from it. Share with your class 👍🏼. Best of luck!
You are a great teacher..i love your work. Feeling proud to have subscribed your channel 👌👌👌
Nice presentation... good refresher for me. Your right, we should know the contents in our IVF.
Glad it was helpful!
This is my 1st video ....
And seriously
I was enjoying ur video and also don't know when I am able to make notes of this (Iv fluids) topic
Thank u for making these video ....
And keep making these video for us 😊
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Awesome videos. Could you please do one on assessment and plan breakdown. What you are looking for and this applies for all of medicine not just ICU if thats ok with you? such as imaging? labs? contacting social worker? Telemetry? so we have a template on what we should be going because I always suck in my A/P
Great video!! As a vet it was very useful to me as well! Thanks for all the valuable information and keep up with the awesome work!
So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Absolutely amazing explanation. Keep em coming!
Hi Dr Eddy Joe, new Acute Care Nurse Practitioner- thanks for this video😁
My pleasure!
Awesome. Thank you. From Junior New grad RN
Thank you Dr. Eddy.
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Great video, finally fluids explained!! I'm on a TICU rotation so this is super helpful. A video on vent modes/settings would be amazing!
Alex, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I have a vent talk sort of prepared that I just need to film. Hopefully soon! Thanks for watching. Best of luck on your TICU rotation, those are a lot of fun!
why don't you ask your Respiratory Therapist who went to school (just as long as you did) for that.
Ask my RT for what, Brian? I obtain the opinions of my RT's all the time. They're part of my team.
I’m an obgyn resident. I’m memorizing this lecture as best as I can, our field doesn’t deal with these medical issues too often so it’s always an argument when someone says you can’t give LR to a septic patient or that a Na of 130 should be corrected with a liter of hypertonic saline (@_@)
Oh wow! When someone tells you that LR can’t be given to a septic patient show them the SMART trial from NEJM. OBGYN residents should never have to use 3% saline to my knowledge.
Wow, you should definitely continue making alike videos. Very helpful!
+Michal Cesek trying to! It's just challenging with my work/life schedule. Thanks for watching!
Hi. You said that the sodium lactate in LR is not the same as lactic acid. I am a new physician and it's embarrassing that I only learned this now. Anyway, can you please provide me with the literature? I would really love to read on it further.
Hey there! Better yet, let me link you to a post by my colleague and badass, Josh Farkas: emcrit.org/pulmcrit/understanding-lactate-in-sepsis-using-it-to-our-advantage/
Thanks!
Thanks sir for iv fluids talk
Hi Dr. Eddyjoe, can you make a video on resuscitation in septic patients for PGY-1s?
Yep. I’m actually working on this right now. It’s not going to be out for a few months simply bc if the amount of data I am going through, though.
Thank you for your well explained video. And looks like I am watching myself! I also drop things, talk fast, funny interruptions, and sigh all the times whenever I try to teach someone medical stuffs. (Can be very anxious some times too) ^^
It was one of my first videos. I have grown more comfortable in front of the camera over the last couple years. 😉
Great video. How do you explain a senior doctor that his approach is wrong?. I don't wanna sound like a gunner :/ thank you for your video amazing explaining
Thank You Eddy
My pleasure, Cesar!
Thank you so much! Wonderful lecture
Thank you for your effort and your time!
+Bigworld DDD my pleasure!
Thanks for sharing this topic.. The choice of IV Fluids isn't easy one. A new friend here to support you. Stay Safe and Connected
Thanks for the support!
Whilst there is a school of thought that using balanced solutions is beneficial for resus, the clinical trials aren't super conclusive and normal saline remains the current treatment preference in most healthcare systems (see UK and Australian guidelines..... Far superior systems with better outcomes than US). Plasmalyte and even Hartmanns is expensive also.
New subscriber. You have explained so clearly. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Why does having low anion difference have decreased risk for acidosis?
Great video. However, I would like to point out, and it is my understanding, at 13:25, you mentioned that lactate is converted to bicarbonate. But, isn't it converted to glucose through the Cori Cycle? I understand that lactate, after being converted to glucose, undergoes glycolysis, TCA and oxidative phosphorylation. CO2 is produced and it is converted to HCO3 by carbonic anhydrase. Is that what you were referring to? Thank you!
So informative thanks
This is a really good video!
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!
Hey boss, great video! Quick question, I am a new attending, just finished residency. I work as an Oncology Hospitalist and all the patients we admit are very sick and always require fluids. Especially for Febrile Neutropenia. Would you recommend it being appropriate to place these patients on LR or Plasma-Lite? Thank you!
Congrats on the new attending life! Don’t party too much now. Lifestyle creep is real! I’d choose depending on their current sodium and electrolyte numbers. Are they hypo or hypernatremic? Do they have SIADH from their lung cancer? It also depends on how accessible the Plasma-Lyte actually is. Is it on the par wall or do they have to send it up from pharmacy? How long is it going to take for the nurses to hang it? Those types of variables. I mostly use them interchangeably. As long as it’s safe for your patients and you’re keeping a close eye on their labs, they should be fine. Just glad you’re not using saline for everyone.
Thank you very much Dr EJ, your teaching is real helpful. Keep going Dr!
My pleasure! Glad to hear it's helpful. I've got a lot of talks in mind and time is my rate limiting factor. Hopefully I'll be able to get some more knocked out soon.
Thank you this is not only for doctors but for nurses that are refreshing the ICU . Great job !
Thanks for watching! Share it with your colleagues. My wife is a CCRN and she motivated me to do this.
The 0.9% saline section of this video would you say that regular healthy ppl cant have saline not cant but shouldn't ???
Thank you!!!!! I loved this lecture
My pleasure!
Thank you for the presentation!
You're welcome!
Why doctors keep administer N/S 0,9 to treat dehydrated patients? RL has way more electrolytes, wouldn't it be better?
Great Job on video. I wish you would do more. How about DKA, hypernatremia,hyponatremia,or an instructional video on peep, fio2, pressure support / control...(when to go up on peep vs ps/pc to increase sats/ volume/ or decrease CO2) ....thanks again
+hometownrocker1 I intend on doing more. I appreciate your suggestions! DKA would be a cool one to tackle. I am writing a vent lecture so that one should be out within the next couple months. I won't touch hyponatremia with a 10 foot pole. It's the most looked up topic on uptodate for a reason and I don't think I do a good job explaining it. The most important thing I do for hyponatremia is get a very very good history including ALL medications. That will get you your etiology 80% of the time and then your next steps should be 1. Don't break the patient 2. Don't break the patient 3. Be patient. Good luck!
I'm thinking for pancreatitis 5-10mL /kg/hour LRingers , higher volumes in first 48 hours = worse outcome. Saline also has worse outcomes.
Pancreatitis is a challenging pathology to manage. No two cases that end up in the ICU are the same. I haven’t seen the data where saline is worse in pancreatitis bc I don’t think it exists. Please send me a link if I’m wrong 👍🏼. Ultimately I do agree with you that saline is likely worse than balanced salt solutions. Thanks for checking out my video!
Can't or shouldn't use LR with IV Zosyn.
Thank you very much for this clear explanation!
My pleasure!
do you have an update on these studies?
Thank you so much for your presentation
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My pleasure! Thanks for checking out my video 👍🏼
Very informative.. I would appreciate the sources you mentioned. Thank you
Here you go, bud. www.eddyjoemd.com/2019/04/citations-for-my-choosing-ivf-in.html. Hope this helps. There will be updated version of this video coming soon so I hope you subscribed!
eddyjoemd I hope she saw this!! You are amazing! You follow up in almost every area of your social media. Im AMAZED by you. When do you ever sleep!! Lmao.
thank you for your valuable information and i need to contact you for your opinions in other polyionic electrolyte solutions,
Hello Doc. This video has been awesome. I've been trying to teach out firefighters the difference between NS/LR. Apparently, our private EMS system only utilizes NS. This Video has been very helpful. Can you send me the study regarding LR vs Plamalight/
+Fidel Miranda I'm glad you found the video helpful. There's no study comparing PL to LR but the feasibility study comparing PL to NS is called the SPLIT trial. The main author is Paul Young. You can google it or try the link below. You're definitely a huge piece of the life saving process and we appreciate all the people you bring us but for a system type change, I wouldn't recommend pushing a change to use LR. There's no data, at least from what I've seen, that would warrant a change in practice. Thanks again for watching! Let me know if you have any other questions. www.hrc.govt.nz/sites/default/files/Young%20et%20al.%20JAMA%202015.pdf
Very well explained can be plz properly explain intravenous fluids in kids
I do not know how to manage fluids in kids. They terrify me. Hope you can find a good resource!
Which fluid would you recommend that has Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) which means they struggle with low blood volume?
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nice presentation ...thanks for summing up
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expecting more of videos from you :)
Thanks! I'm still working on getting better at this journey of lifelong learning, but I'm glad that I can reach out to people in this format. Thanks for watching.
Valuable information and explanation thx
My pleasure!
Would you give 0.9% saline or LR for DKA? My textbooks say 0.9%saline but I see many sources that are conflicting.
9 times out of 10 I'd give LR.
Also, don't forget to correct the sodium for the hyperglycemia. You may find that you're iatrogenically making the pt hypernatremic by giving them NS therefore causing harm.
The only reason why I hesitate using LRs is because of the potential medication interactions/reactions
two IV's could help. I understand the concern, though.
Hi may i ask. How dr decide to put 2 pint 0.9% nacl or 3 pint or 4 pint per day?
Wow! Excellent information
Thanks for watching! Share it with your follow nurses. I routinely share this type of information with my staff. Let me know if you want me to teach other things.
First video of yours I ever watch and you're awesome! As I subscribe! However I cannot really tell if you are saying HYPERkalaemia or HYPOkalaemia
Ha! I’ve gone back and noticed that myself. Oops! I need to do better. Thanks for the subscription!
Great video,best one helped me to understand it
+Edward Habib glad it helped!
Great explanation
Thanks for the feedback!
I'm in nursing school and I'm writing my final paper regarding the dangers of normal saline. Is LR always safer than NS (except some neuro patients) ? What about LR for maintenance on a medsurg floor?
I responded to you on twitter. email me at eddyjomd@gmail.com.
Thank you so much , this is informative and simple to understand .. new subscriber here ❤
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Thank you
Thnku... Really helpful
It’s really great teaching, I loved the video. Explanations and teaching fantastic. Subscribed for more.👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤙🏿🙏🏿
Glad you benefited from my video! Thanks for the sub. Looking forward to making more videos soon!
Thank you doctor
My pleasure!
Lovely video...need more...can we hav a video on abg approach.pleasse @eddyjoe
Noted. I'll work on one. Thanks for following along!
Thank you so much,,, it was awesome,,, one of my weak points,,, fluids
+Sher Ali Khan it was a weak part in my knowledge base when I was in your shoes, too.
I like to know if anyone can tell me which is the best fluid to use for vitamins infusion i bern using 9% sodium chloride?
Does anyone call you and ask you what your writing says when you're at work? (Kinda hard to read)
Thank you for the inormation you are a huge help. Huge. 💛
🤣🤣🤣 thankfully everything is via EMR, for better or worse. Notice how I stopped writing in all my more recent videos. 💪🏼
eddyjoemd 😆Gotcha!! Just re watched and you even said 'sorry for my terrible writing'...im sorry i missed that...you are awesome. Im a new follower for life. I haven't seen newer ones but i will. Thank you for your time/response I hope I meet you and your wife some day!! -From Alaska
Video is most useful but which company provides best quality of iv fludes
I have no idea how I could find that data. Can you try to find it and share it here?
@@eddyjoemd I think aculife healthcare pvt ltd provide best i fludes U know thise company
I do not know of that company. Why do you think they provide the best quality? Trying to learn. Thank you!!
Indication for NS
Indication of RL....?
what is most commonly used in your opinion for rapid fluid infusion for cases of rhabdomyolysis?
Depends on their electrolyte situation. I usually reach for LR though.
eddyjoemd thanks for the reply!
loved it n subscribed and thumbed up ... can u discuss more about precribing particular fluid here in india we use DNS, 5%Dextrose too. thanks
I only reach for the D5NS for a patient in whom hypoglycemia is a real threat or I won't be able to get enteral feeding in them for several days. I only reach for the D5, mostly for hypoglycemic patients, but also if a patient needs a couple calories and I can't feed them enterally. Also, I may use it if I'm trying to slowly correct a hypernatremic patient. I never use those two fluids as a bolus. I rarely use either of them as a maintenance fluid. I may have other uses for them but I can't think of them off of the top of my head at this moment. Hope this helps!
thanks eddy .. more respect to you from india.
Great work.👍Keep it up.☺
Thanks!
Amazing!!! Are you left handed?
Thanks! Yeah, I am. No one is perfect 🤣
@@eddyjoemd I'm left-handed too! Lefties in healthcare!
Ohhhh yeah! In my graduating class from med school I think we were 45% lefties!
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