Surly ECR (Bikepacking Bike) Full Review
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this video I do a Full In-Depth Review of the Surly ECR, a killer Bikepacking Rig by Surly. I break down the build of a Stock model & also talk about my Custom Rig.
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I have no idea how I ended up here. But, you're a really knowledgable/chill guy that makes me want to get back into this type of thing. Great vid m8.
Glad you did end up here.... Now get out there & Ride!
Ride On,
Darwin
Darwin, the Wife and I thoroughly enjoy your channel and vast insight! I've aspired for several years to thru hike the AT, and recently my wife opted into the trek as Well. We hope you can keep this channel and wealth of knowledge going! Happy trails, Chris
I bought my ecr in 2015 and right away started my upgrades.
Velocity blunt 35
Chris king hubs
Dt spokes
Maxxis chronicle tires
Shimano XT m8000 breaks
Thomson seat post
45 north helva pedels
Shimano ice tech rotors
Answer pro taper 810 riser bars
shimano XT shifters
Odi lock on grips
And a down sized chainring to the surly SS 30t
Everything has been changed except the crank it’s self. During the summer I run maxxis hookworms and winter chronicles. Been around the world and back on this bike.
How are hookworms to run? I have a option to get the hookworms 29x2.5 and they might be great for summer commute to work?
Hey Darwin I just rescued my old shimano out of the rafters where it's been for the last 4 years. I put 12 miles on it today and man am I paying for it! Next stop is a new saddle and getting the seat height adjusted correctly. I played around with it some but ended up locking my legs for about the last 4 miles. It was way to hard on the old knees! Thanks for posting this video of your ride.
Awesome bike Darwin, I love the mods you've done. Can't wait till the gear video.
Thanks Jeremy! Gear set-up video should be coming at you soon!
Ride On,
Darwin
awesome bike - thanks for the thorough review
Had to laugh, was looking for Surly ECR reviews, started watching this and went hey I know this guy, looked at Channel name and realised I’ve been following you for years on insta. Didn’t even think to follow on RUclips. Subscribed 👍
Ah buddy, I bet you would love the Gevenalle shifters. Like the micros the ECR ones with but mounted on the brake lever. Use them for everything. Bomb proof. Have three bikes built with the Gevenalle‘ sand three happy riders. Sweet ride Cheers
well the avid BB7 are easy to repair on the road and are my brakes of choice on a touring bike. :) They work very well on the trail too. Good luck with your tektros :)
Tektros don't break :) Seriously though, I had some tektro hydraulic brakes for 7-8 years on one bike and I never had to do any maintenance on them except for changing pads. But yeah, once hydraulics fail somewhere away from civilization, you're pretty much screwed.
For the bottle cage mount, you can try the King Cage universal support bolt :-)
Really nice whip, Darwin. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on this bike but am trying to decide between the 27.5 or 29. Any thoughts out there?
Awesome vid!!! Do you think this bikes geometry would permit a fully upright seating position?
Badass saddle fosho
Subbed. I'm thinking about getting the Wednesday.
Nice Choice Adam! RIDE STEEL, RIDE SURLY!
Ride On,
Darwin
I think I've watched your video multiple times just salivating on your beautiful bike. I'm split between the ECR and the Salsa Fargo. Did you consider other bikes like the Fargo before you got the ECR? If you did, what made you choose the ECR as compared to other similar bikes? I mainly wanted a versatile bike that can go on all terrain and that's also practical for commuting to work on paved roads. I've been riding road bikes all my life and adventure/bikepacking is what I want to do in the near future. Great videos you put up by the way. Very Inspiring.
Allan Gascon I just bought a Fargo 2 this fall- absolutely awesome. I was also road biased, and have done it all on the Fargo2 so comfortable fro road to gravel to singletrack mtb.
Yeah man! The Fargo is a killer bike! I have found the same thing with the ECR. With a set of 700x42 wheels it becomes an Amazing Road touring bike as well. I Commute everyday work on it & take it out to do some "Gravel Grinder" rides on it as well. There is nothing this bike can't do! Thanks for Watching!
Ride On,
Darwin
Really thanks for such really good advice on how to build my new Monstercross Bike. Plans to custom build my Upland Leader 300 29er to a Monstercross Bike. And I will change the cycle name to Ghost as it pretty much suits Monster. I am following you on Instagram so as soon as I build my bike I will inbox a pic of it to you.
Hi, thanks for the informative video. I watched because i a considering an ECR but I am concerned with two things; one, do those small gear rings provide a wide range of gears. Will I run out of gear going downhill, and two, are you noticeably slower with those wide tires?
Thanks.
Ken
Where is the shop and it's name you were in during the video....
Thank you I get so much information out of your videos really really like them much appreciated you taking the time to make all this happened do you work in a bike shop or do you own that bike shop or a bike shop
U get about dude, biking & cycling the trails, what else do u do
You only need one bike when it's a mountain bike. lol
Nice bike!
Very pretty rig. Looks great.
do you honestly hold the drop bars though? Im struggling to do this to my build. I just don't see the benefit of loosing the standard Mtb bars. how does it help?
Any thoughts on a 1x10 setup?
I stayed with the Jones bars. I also went with Blackburn everything cages (2 on the fork, 2 on the down tube, one of those with hose clamps). Found an alpkit saddle bag on eBay and am back and forth on whether or not to pack anything under the handlebars.
Took the bike all over the mountains in Ireland and definitely held its own. It's also the perfect bike for the streets here in New Orleans. Overall very satisfied with the bike! Can't wait to see your rig for the AT!
I've debated a 1x set-up... It would be a nice gearing for the CDT or CT, but don't know if it would be as efficient on the AZT. I'm a bike drop bar fan, so the jones had to go for me! Thanks for Watching!
Ride On,
Darwin
Went to a 1x11 with a sunrace 11-46 cassette. Stayed with the original crank, swapped the 22t inner chainring to a 28t narrow-wide (surly's) and a bash guard on the outer. Sram rear derailleur. surly rear rack and 24pack rack. Bit heavy, but like the piece of mind that nothing is rattling loose.
Excellent bike, still excited to ride it everyday a year later. It's my everything bike ready to find a trail at a moment's notice.
Went to a 1x11 with a sunrace 11-46 cassette. Stayed with the original crank, swapped the 22t inner chainring to a 28t narrow-wide (surly's) and a bash guard on the outer. Sram rear derailleur. surly rear rack and 24pack rack. Bit heavy, but like the piece of mind that nothing is rattling loose.
Excellent bike, still excited to ride it everyday a year later. It's my everything bike ready to find a trail at a moment's notice.
That bike is crying out for a Rohloff hub. That is why Surly made it with that specific rear horizontal drop out just like the Troll and Ogre.
Would be awesome if shops had these in to buy! Care to comment about an ECR compared to a fat bike in the desert washes (dry river beds) which are essentially sand and gravel? Reckon an ECR will float as well? How about energy needed to pedal an ECR compared to fat bike (similar tires)? Many thanks.
yeah...i was wondering if the back wheel would stay in the middle of the track fork while pedalling with just the quick release holding it, but then i see at the end that the axle is now pushed all the way to the front.
Hi Darwin
I picked up a 2020 ECR yesterday. I definitely want to get a drop bar conversion. Any advice on getting this done?
Thanks
Love the Bike.
great bike, have you tried or has anyone rode the crust EVASION ? ?
What a beast
Love the ECR Bro, SUBBED.
I bought the ECR fork for a $4000 build, and you took it off lol. Not just for bike packing, rack mounts front and rear.
What is the weight of the bike dry and loaded?
Hey Darwin and everyone else! Check out conduit hangers for cages....
Last year I bought a Trek 520 w/disc brakes, then recently I bought a Big Fat Dummy(Large/Biolet). I was wondering if there's a way to upgrade the gearing of the BFD to what the Trek 520 has to offer. I don't know if it would be as simple as changing out the cassette, the drive, whichever.
Very versatile rig. What's the price & weight of that tank in stock configuration? That saddle swap is sick!
$2,100 is the stock price & weight is right around 32 lbs. She is a really killer ride. One of the best, if not the best bike I've ever owned!
Ride On,
Darwin
16 kilos is not as heavy as I thought
What's the difference in ride between stock wheels and the carbon ones that you were referencing?
Bummed they discontinued this one
In short if you could pick any bikepacking bike from Surly what would it be can only pick one hands down without any doubt which would it be if money was not an option
Sorry, bro. This video is a brief overview, NOT a full review, and CERTAINLY NOT IN-DEPTH. Since you virtually only point out its features, stock or aftermarket, there's only a drop or two of info, opinions, or value judgements that can't be found on a data sheet on their website. I want to know WHY you like it. WHAT do you like about it? WHY did you pick it over their other three bikepacking rigs (Troll, Ogre, Pugsley)? What DON'T you like about it? HOW does it fit your riding style? HOW is the handling? WHAT is the terrain like that you've used it on? HOW did it handle that? HOW did it handle that terrain VERSUS other bikes, if you have tried others out? WHAT are some considerations you'd like to point out for someone considering this bike or alternatives? I love your show but you really disappointed me with this video title, man. I would watch a video from you answering these questions in a heartbeat.
Ecr and the troll have you done a comparison on those two together the benefits pros and cons of each and then compare the positive of each maybe I just repeated myself but you know what I'm saying
do a bike check of your current bike!!!
I mostly do road riding but I love big tires. Do you think one of these with some smoother tires would be fun for a lot of paved miles?
Even with the knobbies on my Krampus road riding is pretty fun. It is smooth as butter but, not terribly fast! Also, using a Krampus as a commuter bike allows me to launch off stairs and ramps on my way to work as well as riding year round here in Montana. Seriously would recommend either bike.
I have a Kona Unit which is a very similar bike with the same type of tires, they actually roll very good on pavement.
Do those handlebars work on rough terrain or twisty single tracks? I feel like it would be hard to corner while braking, is it?
Buy a roadmaster quarry ridge and upgrade all the parts possible to bottom brackets and stems bwing the first as i come to realize.
Sweet bike. Mercedes 300 SEL Diesel of Bikes.
You wouldn't happen to have the original fork lying around would you?
how are you liking the carbon fork?
super.
Sooo... It's just like a mountain bike with some threaded holes in the frame?
Nope... it's more like an oversized Touring Bike with a Spot-On Geometry for riding Single Track while loaded down with Gear. Kinda like a mix between a Mountain Bike & A Road Touring Bike.Thanks for Watching!
Ride On,
Darwin
Hmm, How would a fatbike do in comparison, I wonder? :)
John Arne Nergård More weight on the sit bones; nothing dramatic.. but added comfort on long, or days riding. More aerodynamic positions.
Hello, frame size?
Man that seat post looks really comfortable.....probably way more comfortable than that stock one lmao what the hell 🤦♂️
Give me a little idea how much that surly bike packing bike? US$ or Can.& thank you Darwin
$2700 cdn
I can't believe I ate the whole thing!
I'm guessing the your bike packing set up costs somewhere north of $2000?
lol... Yep, Pretty far North at this point! Thanks for Watching!
Ride On,
Darwin
Is that a medium? 🙂👍🏻
Nope, it's a Large!
Ride On,
Darwin
Is it ok to bikepack the AT or PCT?
Not allowed on the AT. Unsure on PCT.
If this is specifically designed for bikepacking why did they make such a limited frame bag capacity size like this you would have thought they would have made it possible to put on a big frame bag because that's really a lot of storage in their water and everything so just kind of wondering what your thoughts are on that and why that's not anyting important the fact that they made such a small area
Yeah, doesn't look like it was designed for bikepacking - more like to cater to those who like MTB frame look and style.
Everything about the way you got your bike set up makes sense except that ball pincer you are using for a saddle. lol
John Acord I like ball pinchers, they make it easier on my gooch.
Nevermind wrote b4 video ended... sorry
get some fenders. less mud on bottles you have will
the ECR fork is too good though.
the demon child!
Great bike but a similar MTB will cost me the half price...
Too bad they discontinued this
what saddle is that? anyone know?
Nicholas Terry selle atomica
thanks adam
Most comfortable saddle I ever owned
This bike is crying out for a Rohloff hub.
You changed so much of the bike that only one thing you didnt change and thats the frame...lol
No place really for a frame bag, so lots of unusable space "frame bag"
Why change those parts ? New parts free ? Don’t get it bye
30.... 40k ??? ?
????
the thought of cars riding behind me and texting n driving all that .. Not fan of idea ...
salsa woodchippers ? funny how marketing always uses cherry cool names ? hmmmmm