Beware of even more explosive pistons on the 2025 KTM 300's - Even longer and heavier

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • A bad problem just got worse. When riding hard, the intake tabs on the stock piston on your KTM TBI 300 are at risk of making contact with your crank arm. This is a known issue. At this point, you'll need a full top-end rebuild. It's best to replace the stock piston before your engine explodes, especially if you own a 2025 KTM TBI.
    The 2025 KTM pistons are made by a new piston manufacturer. They are not made by Vertex anymore (which still ran the risk of contacting the crank shaft), and the new pistons for 2025 are slightly longer, making the existing issue even worse for 2025 TBI 250 / 300 bikes.
    Don't wait for your top end to self destruct. Cut your piston intake tabs down 2mm and save yourself a ton of pain down the road.
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Комментарии • 39

  • @rtillerypowersports
    @rtillerypowersports 2 дня назад +1

    Thanks for the video. You're doing a great job. Diagnostics of these and other issues are a very tough thing and there is no replacement for guys like us doing the work and constant teardown to inspect and rebuild . Don't let these internet dudes bring you down... I applaud you Sir.

  • @SpeedDemonExpress
    @SpeedDemonExpress 3 дня назад

    I did a fresh top end on my 2023 300sx at 60 hours of hard track use and everything was perfect. Replaced the piston with a new vertex piston. Measured everything, skirts were the same length, they don't touch the crank. 2mm is more than enough clearance. If you think the connecting rod is flexing enough for the piston to make contact you are dreaming, especially when the rod is at the vertical position. I personally think if these bikes are blowing up it's either a piston size issue being too small, or no oil in the gas, low grade fuel, detonation.

  • @anonymousanonymous8306
    @anonymousanonymous8306 5 дней назад +6

    Should've bought a Beta, my Beta doesn't make enough top end power to even need to rev it out, BULLET PROOF!

    • @marcuslovelace5953
      @marcuslovelace5953 5 дней назад +2

      I’ve been a Honda rider for 20 years
      I got a beta
      22 200 re. Love it
      Fun 🤩
      Enough power
      Light

    • @BIKELIFEAP
      @BIKELIFEAP 5 дней назад

      Hence why pros in Europe love Betas, they have yet to gain traction in the states 🇺🇸

    • @Bikone-m3e
      @Bikone-m3e 4 дня назад +1

      Beta's are really good bikes

  • @jimzigouris
    @jimzigouris 4 дня назад +2

    8.32 minute the weiht is witout piston ring anad the next with piston ring.......please correct th video,thank you

  • @Mine-z6w
    @Mine-z6w 5 дней назад +2

    Perfect euro engineering

  • @DeadAshez
    @DeadAshez 5 дней назад +5

    And people wonder why they bankrupt......

  • @Disturbentz
    @Disturbentz 5 дней назад +1

    Thank God I have a husky te 300

    • @davidanderson2393
      @davidanderson2393 4 дня назад

      KTM, Husky the engines are the same besides some porting differences and head from Te and Tx, as on WCW and XC.

    • @carlatamanczyk3891
      @carlatamanczyk3891 3 дня назад

      Still riding a carbed 2018 Husky TE300. Using Klotz premix at 40 to 1.
      Hundreds of Idaho mountain trail riding hours, no racing. Still on same top end. So far so good.

    • @Disturbentz
      @Disturbentz 3 дня назад +1

      @@davidanderson2393 sarcasm

  • @HardEnduroLlewellyn
    @HardEnduroLlewellyn 5 дней назад

    Good video there blinky

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад +2

      Does that mean I'm blinking a lot? Better than stinky. If so, I'll work on that

    • @HardEnduroLlewellyn
      @HardEnduroLlewellyn 5 дней назад +1

      @ haha just busting balls. Maybe I took that 1st to 3rd gear thing to heart being a hard enduro guy. Either way, def good video!

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад

      @@HardEnduroLlewellyn Got it. Bloopers. I'm horrible at that stuff because I don't like doing it personally. I pick on things I can't do.

  • @frankokrisztian1400
    @frankokrisztian1400 4 дня назад

    Where you measure the pistons, is not the place where it (could) make the contack with the crankshaft 😉

  • @ehess8845
    @ehess8845 5 дней назад

    I just rebuilt my '21 top end and used a Wossner piston. I was curious of the weight difference so I weighed the OEM vs the Wossner...the Wossner was 2 grams, yes, 2 grams heavier...roughly the weight of a circlip. When you talk about the weight penalty of the Wossner, what kind of differences are you seeing?

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад +3

      The end result is every piston I weigh never weighs the same as the next, even though identical. It's just all food for thought when looking at why things may have problems. 2 grams is not a problem

  • @SonicTripTronic
    @SonicTripTronic 5 дней назад +1

    You aren't measuring the skirt length from the wrist pin bore. False advertising!!!

    • @armourbl
      @armourbl 4 дня назад

      I get what you are saying, had the same initial though, but measuring from the crown is still good unless perhaps the compression ratio is higher and therefore the crown might be slightly higher than stock. Either way, the difference in length was so large the margin probably didn't matter.

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  4 дня назад +3

      Well false advertising is kind of a dumb thing to say as I'm just trying to let people know of a potential problem. It was done correctly from the wrist pin to verify it all, but setting that up for a quick vid made it a long vid. Thanks for warning people about the potential scam though.

    • @rtillerypowersports
      @rtillerypowersports 2 дня назад

      @@pinitracingdevelopment5445 Dude ... I bet none of these dudes try to put out anything helpful . they all view and critique without ever producing a spec of content that could go under the same scrutiny .

  • @mikeb4708
    @mikeb4708 5 дней назад

    So are you suggesting to change the 2025 Elko piston out with the Vertex before you even ride the bike?

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад +2

      Whatever you do, the intake tabs need to be trimmed 2mm to get adequate clearance between the piston and crank. Personally I wouldn't send anyone out to ride that's going to be revving this thing hard without a trimmed piston.

    • @frankokrisztian1400
      @frankokrisztian1400 4 дня назад +1

      I did the shortening on my 2023 SX300. But no need to remove material from the very back of the piston. It may (or may not🤔) contact at the "front" side of the intake skirt...

  • @benmartin6476
    @benmartin6476 2 дня назад

    Beta and tm racing doesn’t have this problem
    And tm makes more power and sings to high heaven

  • @mikeschlup5279
    @mikeschlup5279 5 дней назад

    Does the 250 have these issues?

    • @ktmhusky
      @ktmhusky 5 дней назад +1

      They don't have the clearance issue. As far as them scattering, I haven't had many reports on that like the 300

    • @themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX
      @themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX 5 дней назад +2

      @@ktmhusky I have, seems there is a potential pv flapper hitting the piston under load..and the piston hitting the crank. had a few 250sx on the bench that grenaded.

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад +3

      @@themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX Cool. I don't mess with the 250's like 300's so that's good info right there. Thanks

    • @pinitracingdevelopment5445
      @pinitracingdevelopment5445  5 дней назад +1

      @@themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX Hey Josh. Now I know why it was good input

    • @themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX
      @themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX 5 дней назад

      @ Hope all is well with you- talk soon

  • @rebekahfrench5747
    @rebekahfrench5747 4 дня назад

    Buy the chinese one its cheaper so u have coin left to fix it after it eats itself..😂😂

  • @willkelley7747
    @willkelley7747 4 дня назад +2

    Ktm junk