Intellivision Amico CEO Change - Tommy Tallarico OUT
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Tommy Tallarico is OUT as Intellivision CEO. What does this mean for Amico and can his replacement turn things around?
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This is just PART ONE of this week's 60+ minute discussion! What do you think about Tommy being replaced? Was it his decision or the Intellivision board of directors? Do you think Phil Adam can turn things around (lol)? Let me know in the comments!
People r gonna goto jail
The Amico would be a great success if Tony was put in charge!
Can't wait for the award winning documentary that'll be made in a few years about this disaster
@@cax1175 great and success r two words the amico isnt
All Phil can do is clean up the pieces from the train wreck.
What a wild ride man. I think most people thought this whole thing would've been done years ago but it's crazy seeing just how far they stretched this debacle out. I'll be sad when it's finally dead but honestly thanks to both Pat & Ian, the entertainment you brought to all of us with this trainwreck has been wonderful 🙏 Also Tommy should really be thanking you. You guys made him more relevant in the past few years than he's been in a long time. That concludes my *statement of facts* 😉
Pat/Ian and Tommy will be forever linked together. Good or bad. Lol
I love how the shills are making this like it's a good thing. Why in 2022 is it a good idea for tommy to step down. But in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 tommy was such a great CEO for the amico?
I don't know what tommy gave his simps to get this type of loyalty. That they will sink with this ship. And become a complete joke. 🤦♂️
This whole thing has been fascinating, I must admit but I'm also kind of glad it's nearly over, despite having no investment in the product, I've definitely been too interested in the drama and it's been kind of grimy really.
Anyway, I've appreciated your reporting Pat, Ian and I hope the end of the 'saga' (too large a descriptive, I know, but it's definitely been a thing) actually brings a sense of relief.
I commented last night on their previous Intellivision from a few weeks ago whether they'd do a video of this news after I had found out last night.
I was right!
I waited days for this video, and I was not disappointed, I await more videos. It's sad that him or these shilling youtubers won't just be real and admit to all the scummy behavior and just apologize for it.
I wonder if by reading the entire two year history of Tommy's near-daily posts on Atari Age if you could pinpoint the exact moment this transformed from (to quote Jaybird) "one man's quixotic quest to build a console" to a scam?
It'd have to be somewhere between the exodus of the 'Avengers' team that actually knew what they were doing but clearly decided they couldn't work with Tommy and the trashy RFID card 'physical products' sale.
Tallarigo...Tallarigoing...Tallarigone!
Assuming the board is the one that replaced Tommy, the new CEO's job is to salvage any value. If he finds there is nothing there, expect an announcement soon that the doors will close. But if he finds there is a product but it was just woefully mismanaged, then it will depend how far along the product is.
They have products but probably not a substantial amount, they'll probably have to file for bankruptcy
*grabs 3 tubs of popcorn*
Okay. I’m ready to watch this.
Right?! I saw it in my news feed yesterday and I was like holy shit Pat & Ian are gonna have a FIELD DAY
Mike Kennedy is probably pissed the Coleco Chameleon never got the chance to provide this much entertainment to people.
Why do people think you can crowd fund a video game console? These are devices that cost billions of dollars in RnD. It world be like a high school football team thinking that they could play in the NFL. There’s a reason the market can really only support 3 at a time.
Lets be honest, the true VALUE of the Amico is watching the train wreck leading up to it, once it releases we may never hear about it again.
Absolutely! Every time I see the updates I got to read them. And not because I'm interested in the console either lol
Yeah, it's basically going to be the Atari VCS. This big lead up that was far more interesting than the product which ended up being just an over priced low end computer in an atari themed case with some emulators on it.
Awww without Tommy this isn't nearly as fun. Now it's going to be all quiet and then one day we'll see the headline that Intellivision is bankrupt, the Amico isn't coming out and it'll all be over. It's been a nice slow motion train wreck but I think the entertaining part is over, now it's just the sad part where you realize the train was full of people.
TT and his clan are still going off on critics on Twitter and DM’s.
So does this mean that tommy won't be calling into the podcast anymore? I really hope that guy still calls in lol
I tell my kid, "Don't you ever lie to people. Once your lies are found out, and they will be, no one will trust you again." This project is a prime example of why BS clowns shouldn't be given money to do whatever they want. I still can't believe how gullible his minions are. They are still oblivious to the reality that the finances are gone and this thing is pretty much done.
I’m in the Amico Facebook group and it’s really scary how many people are stupidly blind to what a disaster this is
And that actions speak louder than words
@@chrisz31974 who do you think they voted for in 2020? I'm guessing Trump.
Doesn't have anything to do with Intellivision, really. I'm just seeing a pattern here
Tommy is like the Donald Trump of video games, hahahahahaha.
There will be lawsuits. If the investors prove there was purposeful deceit from those in charge, there could be a big investigation from the FTC. Tommy may be doing a perp walk
There is a new arstechnica article: "Intellivision asks fans for more money, reveals massive Amico debts"
Lol, I just read an article where Intellivision themselves say that it is possible the Amico won't release as a console. 😂 This is shocking, as no one could have fathomed that this was a possibility. Bwahahaha!
Now that Tommy is out, you should do a master cut of all of "Tommy"'s calls to the show.
I’ve been waiting for That for a while.
If not these guys, someone
This saga is so outrageous. It's hard to believe it's real. I do like how some "investors" have called out and questioned yet another crowd funding campaign. This will have a documentary or movie made eventually.
I feel like the disclosures were a requirement to qualify for the new crowdfunding they're entering. The Fig/Republic/Fundable investors have zero rights, they're basically donors.
There needs to be a clear distinction between pre-order and pre investment with option to purchase. Most people expect a pre-order to ship in under a year. Beyond that, it's a failed pre-order and money should be refunded. A pre investment is a payment you're giving the company because you agree with their vision. If you exercise the option of buying the final product (if there is one) they can deduct that payment from the total price. Sites like kickstarter and other funding platforms need to make this distinction.
It's amazing that this surpassed the insanity of the Atari VCS and the Ouya.
Forcing their hand to the SEC was the biggest blow here, I think far more than Tommy stepping town. The big shocker to me though was not the amount of debt they owed, but that they were taking out big loans as early as 2019. This was mismanaged basically from the start.
@@TheBlargMargdon't forget the Coleco Chameleon lol
We know why there's not much profit in the console now...Fig takes 15% of each one, then they also lose $100 per console in paying back a loan to Sudesh Aggarawal, to the tune of $675,000. This company was/is run by absolute clowns, who, if not doing it to enrich themselves, have proved they should never be trusted in the industry again due to their incompetence and mismanagement.
This crowdfunding campaign looks like an attempt to just pay off the amico's debt. Not to help launch the console. This is sad for the people that already backed the amico via fig/republic.
bingo!
@@poboxchristmas380 Just Pathetic
@@ezg2000 all the Amico Cult cares about is getting their Founder's Editions, they are just as guilty in this scam now. Think of the people who bought those game packs and won't even get a console.
@@poboxchristmas380 The cult is 100% accomplices in this sham. They helped hype the amico and continue to hype the amico to make it look appealing to backers.
More like to pay themselves their personal loans plus interest. After that, they don't care because it's an LLC and they can declare bankruptcy and walk away from their bills after having three years of six figure salaries (for which they finished nothing) plus better return on their loans than any bank or government security would have given them. And if you're their CFO, you also collected rent on the rundown warehouse that no one would have rented during the pandemic that still held your personal junk.
Pat and Ian left out that Amico is also on a 4th fundraiser at a place called "Start Engine". What a joke. How can anyone in their right mind invest at this point?
We didn't leave it out, we discussed it on the podcast right after this.
Someone shared this video in the Intellivision Amico Club FB group and all the diehard Amico fans came out. Ofcourse they started name calling you guys and making excuses. Few people commented that its annoying the company rarely posts any updates and glad the video was shared. Post was immediately removed.
If Intellivision Amico folds in the next month or two I don't think I can take it... Where am I going to find such pure and majestic trash fire ever again?! #prayforamico
Now we also know they were already basically out of money in 2019. Just like you guys thought and it explains so, so much.
Tommy was recently spotted enlisting in the Space Force . Rumor has it he's doing research for Moon Patrol .
The rocket is on the launch pad 🚀
Spectrum Vega +, Coleco Chameleon, Intellivision Amico , great entertaining stories every one of them! The Atari VCS struggled its way into peoples hands and was a huge disappointment. The ZX Spectrum Next showed how’s it done , by having something ready from the beginning.
Tommy might be a little sad on the next Voicemail... if only he had listened to Tony.
It must feel really good that you were both right from the start. All your haters on youtube/twitter/else where can eat crow.
OMG, you seriously can't make this up! I was wondering why the Amico news had settled down. Well this week's update did not disappoint. My god, I hope Pat makes a complete Omnibus, or anthology video about this absolute disaster. I can only imagine how bad things are, and all of the details that we don't even know about. This is truly Gaming's Theranos.
We should fill a GameStop with crickets on launch day
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy
"Pat and Ian F--- You" would make for an awesome podcast anniversary shirt.
So… TT failed. They probably had to force him from his CEO seat, because they could see the pitchforks and torches coming. Lol
John "shill" Riggs is gonna cry
He cries when the all you can eat buffet closes at night.
@William Burns I wonder if he will continue with denials 🙄 Or actually eat his Crow
Smash JT legit said that this was Tommy's idea, because Tommy just wanted to 'share the power'. Fact check me if you think I'm joking!
The jokes are smash and tommy.
@@ezg2000 Retro Bro is getting creampied hard too. Good Lord!
"You can't do this to me! Do you know how much I SACRIFICED?!"
"Bout tree fiddy."
I just have this image of the Cybermorph chick asking Tommy "Where did you learn to run a company?" as all of this has been going on.
Wait, this just popped in my head.
Here's Tommy singing to his prototype at night
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
The Ouya's looking classy right now compared to the Amico cluster%$#@!
Tommy will collaborate with DJC and hand out signed demos of his new album, “Intellivision Bangers”, when he goes back on tour.
Getting my popcorn...this is gonna be good! 🍿🍿🍿
The word was out. The bosses had enough of Tommy. They had enough. How much were they gonna take? So they made an example of him and his Ferrari; they buried him while he was still breathing.
An eerie silence descends upon the battlefield as Pat and Ian lead their combined forces through the ruins of Fortress Tommy. Their combined pincer attack was enough to deal a fatal blow to Tommy's ambitions of expanding his territory of Amicoville throughout all of Consolevania. Ambitions in tatters as Pat and Ian decide who will deal the killing blow. So they cast open Tommy's battle tent, confident that their foe will at least have the honour to go out on his shield. But all they find is a sealed parchment with Tommy's final words to them. Tommy has abandoned it all to save his own miserable hide, defeated and deluded that his fight somehow still goes on. A hollow victory indeed. Ian crumples the parchment to the ground and wails an anguished cry. Revenge will be his!
Let’s not fool ourselves, Pat and Ian are about the only marketing and attention this doomed console has ever really had.
Tommy might be gone as CEO, but the damage is already done. I dont see this as a salvageable situation. I dont think there's anything they can do that is positive and will turn things around. I hope people who are into the cult of Amico are happy with the piece of crap they get (if this thing does come out, and I doubt it will at this point).
All 3 people.
@@xenos_n. I'm sure they are still trying to convince themselves it's gunna be kewl!!!!! and better than the Switch.
@@heisensaul5538 I'm still trying to decide if I should order the Steamdeck or save money for Switch games. Hard decision. Everything else is absolutely not on my radar for consideration. Even that Playdate that Ian & Pat seem hyped about for some reason.
@@xenos_n. not sure man, I would say just go with your gut instinct :)
I’ve been watching since before the coleco chameleon days and I gotta say, these story’s are great. Someone auta write a certain book about certain failed consoles someday!
Everyday I thank the gods that the Amico exists, because it introduced me to you two wonderful gaming-racists. Brilliant stuff.
Wait... Does this mean the voicemails are coming to an end? NOOOOOOO!!!! Please be sure to put them into some compilation video if and when they stop.
I think the Amico might go down as the Citizen Kane of dubiously conceived consoles because even a light bit of study on it yields a level of incompetence and baffling thinking that I've never seen any other system compare to. You look up the Chameleon, VCS, or the countless console misfires in the past, and a lot of the time you can basically get the gist of what happened in a couple of paragraphs, maybe a few pages at most.
The Amico though has so many layers, so many individual elements of poorly thought out ideas and executed so badly (and consistently!) that it almost becomes a master class in how not to run a business, let alone one in the video game industry. Throw in Tommy's bizarre antics and the weird cult of personality he developed among certain retro RUclipsrs, and it's one of the most fascinating media failures in the last two decades.
Except the VCS is real. I'm replying to you on it - right now. It's nice!
I think it's way too late, I read an article yesterday saying they were 8 million dollars in debt and were probably going to have to raise the price of the console to over $300. This silly console and the whole company is as good as dead and they'll never be able to pay off their debts, not to mention the lawsuits they'll probably be facing. This whole thing was ridiculous from the very beginning. I hate that they've sullied the name Intellivision.
"At this point it might be humiliating"
Bold of you to assume Tommy can feel shame
Come for the Amico dumpster fire. Stay for the ball trimmer. 👍
I see a lot of people questioning if Phil can save this project, so to be clear, that isn't his goal. He seems to specialise in winding down companies that are no longer viable with minimum liability for those involved and did the exact same thing for Interplay in the past. He's trying to turn a crash in to an emergency landing so all the IE executives get to take their money and walk without having to fear prosecution or lawsuits. 'Saving' Intellivision Entertainment or putting out a good product isn't something he has any interest in doing.
Especially not at his advanced age.
Yeah I'm surprised people don't know this about Phil already. This thing has all of the signs of bracing for crash.
Looks like he was part of the Coleco Chameleon team so he could bring his experience from there :o
@@ccricers lmao!
Following the Amico FB page and other posts it's actually so bewildering that when you filter through comments and things, alot of people walking away from it, but other people are still backing this thing. Its astounding, it's like watching a sinking ship and there's people jumping off to escape, and other saying "No im seeing this through to the end and going down with the ship" it's madness.
Statement of Spin: "See! Nintendo Sports means they've responded to the trailer!"
Finally and hopefully this is the fall of Lord Tommy T and his Amico cult.
I'm not sure about that, some of the know-nothings are very keen to hold on to hope. They will need to be told by the leader that it's over, and we know they don't like to show weakness.
All I will say is at least the Ouya knew ( mostly) who it's target audience was. Even though it was targeting a market no one truly asked for ( Android gaming on tv) it at least was during a time it made sense to target, and presented itself in a way that also made sense.
No complicated gimmicks with physical being digital etc lol.
Probably should have done this years ago when he went wild on message boards and he could have taken more of a brand ambassador role or something. This system appears doomed though and it sucks because people other than tommy will lose a lot of money and their jobs as well.
The officers of the company seem like the only people who are completely insulated from this totally incompetent clusterflock.
HE CAN'T LOSE
This saga keeps getting better and better (unless you work at Intellivision, in which case it keeps getting worse and worse).
And now the world gets to watch Tommy eat the shit burger we have all been waiting for..
There will be a few humble souls who deny it but we have all been waiting for the day to come.
Yeah, but he's the type of person to eat it and enjoy it. I don't think it will knock him off his high horse.
Somehow is pretty impressive how they can keep BS'ing for so long.
"Don't let a wild pube wreck you."
Intellivision needed this advice several years ago.
The most recent SEC filing is... damning. It is staggering how screwed they are, and how much cash they have burned through. Nothing is done, nothing is ready to be made let alone shipped. There is no chance this can be salvaged.
That was for 2019 and 2020, too....I'm surprised they made it through 2021. Bankruptcy could be declared at any time.
Yup, now the CEO is a guy known for his talents at winding companies down? All real good signs Intellevision isn't long for this world.
"You'll be playing Mario Kart 8 for years"
I mean, that new Booster Expansion will be releasing 48 tracks over the next 2 years so you aren't wrong on that regard.
Does this mean Tommy won’t be leaving voicemails anymore?
I felt just as many lies from Phil as I did from Tommy. He just seemed less defensive and more polished.
This is a late holiday present. 🎁
They really should just cut their losses on this thing at this point, the design is fundamentally self-defeating and as far as one could get from practical, and there's simply no audience for it in 2022.
They should scrap the project and do a new system that is normal and isn’t trying to be”different”
Intellivision Entertainment provides us with the best tire fire the world has ever seen!
The lead up has provided more entertainment then the console ever could.
What’s wild when I hear the price of this thing and the pricing of the games….is that the Series S is 300 bucks. If I had a kid I’d just get them that and games pass, put parental controls on, and call it a day. Who is this for beyond such a small niche market that is too small to turn a profit on?
It’s for a bunch of middle aged neckbeards that blindly follow a guy that plays the GEE TAR
I wa s thinking similar.
You’re approaching the price where you might as well get a PS4 (after production restarts)
Insane amounts of ineptitude. I remember the “moment” I turned on Tom….when he made that silly unlisted response video because you all got the price wrong. Boy did ya ever…it’s way higher than you said!!!
My favorite part of this is the obnoxious cult members are getting their just desserts. I feel no sympathy for the little no name RUclipsrs who shilled for this thing and now have egg on their faces.
They should have shot their load for the oversaturated _cult of Elon_ instead. At least, that guy can bring complex dysfunctional products of mediocrity to market and somehow sell those.
the amiico, a couple of old nokia phones sitting on top of a take out container. good thing folks locked in the preorder price, because otherwise they wouldn’t have been able to afford to keep this grift going. it’s not to late to throw your money away on a second unit, mark ass marks.
This literally changes nothing at all, he's still in charge and directly connected to the project and any money they get still goes into his pockets and the product and idea is still putrid shit at best. It won't change to anything good unless it all gets sold off to other people with no further connection to Tommy in any way, shape or form. Simple as that.
Man, this has been a long time coming, but lemme tell ya: it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!
I hear the original Intellivision Baseballs umpires voice in my head: Yer Out!
Ah reminds me of the times Phil Jackson would get replaced right before the Finals of each of the 6 Bulls’ championships.
Wonder if Microsoft will buy Intellivision??? Maybe 300 Canadian dollars will be enough
12:05 they tied him to one of his $800 office chairs that got repossessed
This has been a facinating weekend. Seeing the stars start to fade from the starstruck, seeing who pulls up in the Spin Wagon, and the genuine disarray that this transfer of power has been handled with.
Nobody on Republic or Fundable has been informed of this _fourth_ campaign, which I'm sure will _just simply instil_ them with confidence, especially since Start Engine forced them to post financials, which are even worse than most of us could have predicted.
Even the guy who dropped 10k$ is starting to have seconds thoughts. Which is an amazing miracle.
But then there's _slopes._ The guy who made his entire channel off the back of picking apart Kickstarter scams and having a lark over them. This is the project, the metaphorical hill he'll do his trench charge on. Oh well, his money to turn into charcoal in the stocking. (While ruining his reputation, alas.)
Edit/Update: Well, Nintendo Sports is back. I can't help but imagine that someone has metaphorically shot the Amico at point blank.
Yeah... SGR's new video about the subject ain't any better. It feels like a reach of an endorsement that defies logic. He used to be the man to call stuff out but... not anymore. Ah well. A benefit of the doubt in the Tommy interview is one thing, but to make another vid and say how it's like the new Leapfrog? Time to tap out.
I came from the future and can say Slope's 4-hours documentary about this Amico scam is kinda good
I think the company just admitted that they might not be able to get the console out at all
A scare tactic about raising the price? It sounded more like a threat.
I was excited for this thing back in early 2020…now it’s just a debacle. Thanks for keeping us informed. Zero chance this gets released here in Australia
Same, back in Feb-March 2020 I was binge watching every Amico interview on youtube. But then I stopped and started to see the light lol
Wait? Does this mean Tommy not going call you guys anymore? Noooo!!!!
Apparently the Amico will be sold at $350 now...according to the new CEO
Holy crap. $350?
That’s a mind blowing number.
It would be a hard sell for $50.
Damn, what is so hard to make a retro pie in a glorified plastic box and a couple of smart phone games?
I've said this before but this is what happens when someone who thinks they know how to make video games tries to make video games. Tommy has a lot of experience in the industry and has worked on a lot of titles but he's been a music composer. While important, this is a process that is pretty disconnected from the rest of development, often happening in a completely different studio. Tommy's CV of game soundtracks he's produced is impressive, credit where credit is due there, but he's never actually designed a game, never mind a game *console*, so him leading the creative vision of this thing was always going to result in a disaster.
Let's just call it what it is at this point.... vaporware....
In the Atari and Colecovision days having arcade ports was an awesome selling point. In the old days there weren't that many RPGs or adventure games that you could play for a week let alone a month.
Hell, even dragonstomper for the Atari 2600 is the only true rpg and even that game doesn't take long to beat.
I’m glad I only had a $100 deposit in this shit. I’m going get my deposit back. This company is going down.
Good,luck
Ruh-roh! Tommy, YOOOOOUUUU'RE FIIIRED!
Too bad the shitstorm might be less entertaining now!
Pretty much it was too little too late to get rid of him
250$ up here in Canada after taxes would be over 400$ lmao
I dont think this thing was ever destined to come out-it was a grift for money from the start, but only the owners knew that. What the hell did they do with all the money anyway:?
Pigs would have to fly for the Amico to turn out to be The Ouya Twouya
Tommy drove the company right into the ground!
Just when I thought this story has jumped the shark, and the amico would finally get released with no controversy, this happens.
Oh Pat you silly little scamper there you go ruffling feathers up in the television again. Why can't you just hop on the bandwagon with everybody else and see how overly freaking awesome The amigo is going to be join us Pat come to the Happy side come to the side that loves amigo.