My nephew, very faithful in the LDS church, is an intelligent graduate of the MBA program at BYU, plus a couple of masters degrees. He works for the farm for profit business of the church. He completes a financial evaluation of each property prior to its purchase by the church. I asked him why the church buys property, secretly wondering of there were some overall goal of preparing for the Second Coming- ability to feed people, etc.. His answer was “investments.” It was a disappointing answer for me as I was hoping for some altruistic reason. I guess the church really is just a business hoarding money at the members’ expense.
My wife unexpectedly had to go out of town to be with her mother who was rapidly dying from cancer. She died 5 days after diagnosis. My wife asked the bishop to help. He said, "It's not my problem," and told her to go to the Catholic church. The Catholic church helped with no questions asked.
My son once accidentally paid $300 instead of $30 in tithing. His whole check. It was nearly an act of congress to get it back. The bishop was telling us well he gave it so we can't give it back. So glad he's out and the rest of my family too
I am 56 yo. When I was a kid, it was considered sinful to take government assistance. My... how things change, especially when it keeps the church's pockets lined!
When I was growing up, going to the government for any welfare assistance was heavily frowned upon. I was always taught that one should go to family first, then the church, and then the government if the first two couldn't provide adequate help. The church leaders taught for over half a century at least, that "the dole" (government handouts) was evil, something to be abolished and done away with. Now the current church expects the government to be a resource to the needy BEFORE the Lord's "one and only true church"? The church is ridiculous.
I actually got in trouble as a bishop for trying to do what I thought Jesus would do by using church funds to help a few members with rent, utilities and medical bills.
We also had to work to "pay back" what was given. At that time I had just had baby #6, had a 2 year old, 2 with autism plus another two. And now we learn that they counted hours for 8 people and count that work as their charitable donation money???!!! UGH!
Honestly, it’s not too far-fetched to believe that these men wouldn’t take accountability for their own buildings. They were in charge of approving the location where it was built and how it was built. That makes them liable for any damages suffered due to circumstances of how the building is operating. Therefore, yet again, the church is trying to avoid the law because they know they’re responsible and don’t want to be adults and take accountability for it. I’m glad I made the decision to leave when I did. Things with that group just continue to get worse.
Oh honey, I can’t imagine 6 kids. You are so young. Someday I’d love to hear your story. I moved to Manti, Ut. From Maui. I’m 73. I have quite the story too.
Welcome back and happy new year, thanks for this. This is a minor point, but I noticed that every time I listen to one of your episodes, that I go to like it at the end, but it cuts off very rapidly. I don’t know if this is just me, but you might want to leave a tiny bit of space after you close each episode for people to like your episode, maybe even ask them to do so
Do you have autoplay enabled? That happens to be if it’s enabled. With autoplay, the next video will play automatically after the one you’re watching ends. You can turn it off by, on mobile, clicking on the video and at the top right, find the toggle button that has a right arrow. If, when you click on it, a small message says “autoplay is off”, the right button was pressed.
I heard the church did pay for all medical expenses . I noticed no actual names and info when these incidents are being told. If this info your saying is true then some bishop and stake not doing their calling right. As for the cancer , it's sucks and I hope people realize everyone is different from how they react to the treatments. Plus, the fact that cancer is one of the most devastating if not the most devastating diseases one can have. It drains not only the person fighting it but their loved ones as well. I hope all beat it and are cancer free now. Glade to hear your husband is doing better.
thx for posting, especially today, since I thought you were going on a two-week hiatus. BTW, you cited the newspaper article's date as "2024" - did you mean 2025?
Stop your automatic default position. I’ve heard it for over 50 years. Give all of us back our money and we’ll move on. Tell the church to stop giving tithing money to Victoria’s Secret parent company while you’re at it. Oh the ignorance of Mormons.
@steveambrose2349 it's ignorance; it's brainwashing. Proved by the fact that you can give them a few catchphrases and they're good to go. No more knowledge required.
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My nephew, very faithful in the LDS church, is an intelligent graduate of the MBA program at BYU, plus a couple of masters degrees. He works for the farm for profit business of the church. He completes a financial evaluation of each property prior to its purchase by the church. I asked him why the church buys property, secretly wondering of there were some overall goal of preparing for the Second Coming- ability to feed people, etc.. His answer was “investments.” It was a disappointing answer for me as I was hoping for some altruistic reason. I guess the church really is just a business hoarding money at the members’ expense.
My wife unexpectedly had to go out of town to be with her mother who was rapidly dying from cancer. She died 5 days after diagnosis.
My wife asked the bishop to help. He said, "It's not my problem," and told her to go to the Catholic church. The Catholic church helped with no questions asked.
My son once accidentally paid $300 instead of $30 in tithing. His whole check. It was nearly an act of congress to get it back. The bishop was telling us well he gave it so we can't give it back. So glad he's out and the rest of my family too
I am 56 yo. When I was a kid, it was considered sinful to take government assistance. My... how things change, especially when it keeps the church's pockets lined!
When I was growing up, going to the government for any welfare assistance was heavily frowned upon. I was always taught that one should go to family first, then the church, and then the government if the first two couldn't provide adequate help. The church leaders taught for over half a century at least, that "the dole" (government handouts) was evil, something to be abolished and done away with. Now the current church expects the government to be a resource to the needy BEFORE the Lord's "one and only true church"? The church is ridiculous.
I actually got in trouble as a bishop for trying to do what I thought Jesus would do by using church funds to help a few members with rent, utilities and medical bills.
We also had to work to "pay back" what was given. At that time I had just had baby #6, had a 2 year old, 2 with autism plus another two. And now we learn that they counted hours for 8 people and count that work as their charitable donation money???!!! UGH!
Thanks!
sue the bishoprics of the building for negligence causing an unsafe environment
Honestly, it’s not too far-fetched to believe that these men wouldn’t take accountability for their own buildings. They were in charge of approving the location where it was built and how it was built. That makes them liable for any damages suffered due to circumstances of how the building is operating. Therefore, yet again, the church is trying to avoid the law because they know they’re responsible and don’t want to be adults and take accountability for it. I’m glad I made the decision to leave when I did. Things with that group just continue to get worse.
Oh honey, I can’t imagine 6 kids. You are so young. Someday I’d love to hear your story. I moved to Manti, Ut. From Maui. I’m 73. I have quite the story too.
I appreciate these updates.
This should absolutely be a class action law suit. If I get hurt at work, it's an L &I claim. Shouldn't it be the same at a church?
Oh no, those poor people. Why did they not have detectors?? They have hundreds of billions of dollars, they should be covering expenses you caused.
Yikes! 😟
The church wouldn't be self-reliant if we hadn't paid all their bills, salaries, tuition, car insurance, free meals, houses...on and on and on.
Welcome back and happy new year, thanks for this. This is a minor point, but I noticed that every time I listen to one of your episodes, that I go to like it at the end, but it cuts off very rapidly. I don’t know if this is just me, but you might want to leave a tiny bit of space after you close each episode for people to like your episode, maybe even ask them to do so
This doesn't happen for me on any device. May want to check it on your end.
Do you have autoplay enabled? That happens to be if it’s enabled.
With autoplay, the next video will play automatically after the one you’re watching ends. You can turn it off by, on mobile, clicking on the video and at the top right, find the toggle button that has a right arrow. If, when you click on it, a small message says “autoplay is off”, the right button was pressed.
My stake offer a chrismas dinner for service missionaries. But 7 brothers and sisters were intoxicated because if the food
I heard the church did pay for all medical expenses . I noticed no actual names and info when these incidents are being told. If this info your saying is true then some bishop and stake not doing their calling right. As for the cancer , it's sucks and I hope people realize everyone is different from how they react to the treatments. Plus, the fact that cancer is one of the most devastating if not the most devastating diseases one can have. It drains not only the person fighting it but their loved ones as well. I hope all beat it and are cancer free now. Glade to hear your husband is doing better.
The church doesn’t give a shit about the people bottom line. It’s a corporation.
thx for posting, especially today, since I thought you were going on a two-week hiatus. BTW, you cited the newspaper article's date as "2024" - did you mean 2025?
oops - you really did mean 2024 - I should have listened to the whole podcast before posting.
You can leave the church but you can never leave the church alone.
Stop your automatic default position. I’ve heard it for over 50 years. Give all of us back our money and we’ll move on. Tell the church to stop giving tithing money to Victoria’s Secret parent company while you’re at it. Oh the ignorance of Mormons.
@steveambrose2349 it's ignorance; it's brainwashing. Proved by the fact that you can give them a few catchphrases and they're good to go. No more knowledge required.
AllenGreg, you can leave the church too. If you were smart, that’s exactly what you would do.
@@steveambrose2349 The ignorance of people who give money away and then want it back - good luck with that one!
Just like you can never leave the exmos alone
Take a hike