Very cool. I have about 150 strips of paper thin Ti sheets that I purchased at an auction last year. I'm very much looking forward to your upcoming videos. By the way, I just uploaded my sub for science video. It should go public in a day or less.
@spastb00n long story, i'll cover it in another video. Bottom line, titanium is clean, doesn't corrode, is physically stronger than other metals, and cheaper than pure platinum.
This sure was reassuring. I just bought a titanium anode coated in ruthenium oxide and iridium oxide. They cut it from a larger sheet, so the side has exposed titanium. I was worried that this would cause the whole thing to slowly dissolve, but the passivation will prevent that.
i included subtitles for those that have trouble understanding. Just click the "cc" button in the player bar. If the voice itself is grating (as i have been told) then just turn off the sound and use the subtitles exclusively. there is also a transcript option youtube provides so you can read the subtitles and skip ahead to the more interesting parts of a video.
@nobox7 It can be done, but i from what i understand it's not a good idea. i think a problem with platinum coating copper is that if you have even a tiny crack in the platinum it starts to corrode the copper in that crack. the corrosion spreads underneath the platinum layer and eventually dislodges the platinum. Titanium on the other hand just passivates itself and stops further corrosion. Better option might be to fill a titanium tube with copper and then platinum plate that. less resistance
@NOBOX7 Copper corrodes very easily if used as an anode, disintegrating with prolonged use. The conditions around anodes are very harsh and only a few substances, titanium included, can withstand them. Therefore a titanium substrate is preferable to a copper substrate.
oh electrolyzing water is just a demonstration. The video was about showing how titanium passivates if used as an anode. i'll be doing electrolysis in a later video
@Hydroxybenzeen, you're absolutely correct, but I think antiswatt2 is talking about a stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen in oxygen in the balloon, which makes the reaction of hydrogen more explosive and makes the balloon experiment more impressive than pure hydrogen. A lot of people incorrectly label this mixture as H2O gas.
You should use MMO coated Ti or Ni anodes and platinum cathodes for the electrolysis of water. The MMO coating aids in the formation of O2 while the platinum aids the formation of H2. Commercial electrolyzers use this method to improve production. The MMO coating is made of oxides of metals such as manganese, tungsten and ruthenium, according to what I've read...
Passivation can be done by anodizing, but not all anodizing leads to a passive surface. i'm demonstrating in this video the blocking of current due to an inert layer of titanium dioxide forming, passivation. While it is anodizing, giving this a title of anodization would be more misleading because that's not the objective. Kind of like drag racing, it's true that it's "combustion of gasoline" but that's not the objective, better title is "drag racing" or even "organ donor tryouts"
Anodizing, cool. Have you done experiments varying the voltage to create different colors? There is an artist who uses platinum as his canvas. He uses a brush connected to the cathode. Through varying the voltage, he can "paint" different colors on the titanium. He has also experimented with various electrolytes. I wish that worked on aluminum.
hey friend ,, great vid , i have a question though, in my past experance i have found that resistance heating of electrodes made of metals other then copper can cause excesive heating with only 10 to 15 amps at 12 volts, plastic melts at the temps i have observed in open bath testing, so my question is why not plate copper electrodes ,, im shure u have a very good reason for the titanium , i just wanted to tell you about the problems i have noticed during many test
thanks for the info and just so im clear i was asking if it is possible to plate copper with platinum, i am aware of how fast copper corrodes in a cell but im intrested to no if i could possibly make my own platinum plated copper plates for an oxyhydro torch im building,,, you see ss steel gets very hot ,, up to 210 watts of heat is lost in just 6 inches at .02 ohms as a result of using stainless steel . but if you no a way to plate copper with platnuim it would be an amazing find for me ...
@antiswattt2 The explosive gas we are talking about is a mixture oxygen and hydrogen, mixed in stoichiometric ratio's (2:1, by volume). Steam will not do a thing. Yes ok you can blow up a balloon with steam until the pressure is big enought to make it pop. But that has nothing to do with the "explosive gas" . In my preveous post you can see the equalation of the reaction of the electrolysis of (acidified) water.
@Paradox3121 Maybe he means H2O2 (Hydrogen-Peroxide), but you cant just put some electrodes in water to make it. That just produces a mixture of Hydrogen Gas, and Oxygen Gas. (Which is still an explosive mixture)
@NurdRage This is a great video, I have been reading about this, but one can never know enough. More general knowledge about these exotic materials would help a lot to make things clear for people like myself who are experimenting with devices that produce HHO. Thanks for sharing and showing this 5* Some others are experimenting with nickel200 as electrodes for electrolysis. Do you know anything about the properties from nickel200 in regards to the electrolysis process? Greets, iT
I have been successfully using titanium foil as an annode conductor in a precious metal recovery copper sulphate parting cell. I can't say that I have witnessed this degradation of its performance. I would like to know how to recover the metals and sulphuric acid from the nickel fouled solution however. I've watched your video on separating the copper from the copper sulphate, and understand the need for a platinized electrode in that operation. That leaves the nickel, and possibly tin from the plated phosphor bronze e-scrap.
I wonder whether electrolysis of water could be be achieved using A/C current with one titanium electrode and say nickel or stainless steel for the other electrode / neutrals. I would like try HHO for glassblowing but from the reading I've done so far producing enough gas could be difficult. I thought it may be more efficient to use AC and also lower capital investment but apparently it cant be done as any gas produced converts back to H2O b4 it can dissipate away from the electrode.
@20kilovolt i suppose for academic interests you could make the equivalent of a diode with this. But as you've said, the equivalent reverse leakage, parasitic capacitance, forward voltage drop and resistance are all terrible. A diode hacked out of a radio performs better than this setup.
This experiment looks like to behave as an diode. Is it possible to rectify a (low frequency) AC source? Thanks DR.Lithium your video's are very instructive 5*
Okay I'm very ill so I can't do this myself but. I recently had a lab accident while decarboxylating salicylic acid I had a break in a piece of glass tubing causing a salicylic acid energetic burst that got all over glassware and some metal tools. I can't get this material my glassware or the metal with any chemicals scraping it is almost impossible it it's as if it turn to glass. I have successfully made these electrodes before using manganese oxide excetera they work fairly well but do degrade in time which is a pain in the neck. I would love to see someone try to use both phenol and salicylic acid in one of these manganese or cobalt recipes to see if it extends the life of these electrodes and their coating. I don't know the state of decarboxylation I believe the liquid that spattered on everything was actually phenol but it could have very well come from the other side of the reaction and then simply molten salicylic acid. Whatever the substance is it is incredibly resilient. I would love to see nurdrage try this and let us know if it does anything again I'm very sick I'm fighting a terrible illness and it puts me down for months or I do it myself.
is this how titanium is prepared for surgical implants? dental implants? have read some titanium implants work well with bone while others become problematic. biocompatibility is the term used. does titanium coated with titanium dioxide become less or non active in humans?
will you do a video on electrolysis of water i just bought a milwaukee orp meter with a platinum tip electrode and needed some help on how to go about it... (water quality)
is this the same effect that pure aluminium exposed to air passivates by forming a layer of aluminium oxide ? does titanium also passivate when exposed to air ? can the thickness of the passivation layer be increased like with aluminium ?
How about GOLD ? Can gold be used to plate a titanium electrode and be used instead of platinum? im just curious, not that i think its better than just buying it.
Hi. Could you tell me: If i want to make KClO3 I must have a steal cathode and titan anode. A titan anode must be covered a layer cobalt oxide or manganese oxide? Cheaper for me is of course covered titanium anode cobalt or manganese oxide to protected the titan to passivated. What voltage must be keep? 5 V will enough?
It's been many year I'm still confusing betweeeen anode and cathode. These scientists need to wise up and call them by the correct name: nenode and posthode or was it the other way around.
Anode is to what the negative charges are attracted to and the kathode then the positive. If you are speaking of the technical flow of current it is swapped, that means you are assuming positive charges are moving in the medium, which is physically not possible, but was the one beeing set as standart back in the old days
ive noticed that with all your videos you say to subscribe rate and comment but for some of the videos ive come across you cannot leave a comment...i just thought id tell you...
Very cool. I have about 150 strips of paper thin Ti sheets that I purchased at an auction last year. I'm very much looking forward to your upcoming videos.
By the way, I just uploaded my sub for science video. It should go public in a day or less.
@spastb00n
long story, i'll cover it in another video.
Bottom line, titanium is clean, doesn't corrode, is physically stronger than other metals, and cheaper than pure platinum.
That's good information. Well done. We supply titanium and now we could explain our customer's questions even better. Thank you.
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This sure was reassuring. I just bought a titanium anode coated in ruthenium oxide and iridium oxide. They cut it from a larger sheet, so the side has exposed titanium. I was worried that this would cause the whole thing to slowly dissolve, but the passivation will prevent that.
i included subtitles for those that have trouble understanding. Just click the "cc" button in the player bar. If the voice itself is grating (as i have been told) then just turn off the sound and use the subtitles exclusively. there is also a transcript option youtube provides so you can read the subtitles and skip ahead to the more interesting parts of a video.
@nobox7
It can be done, but i from what i understand it's not a good idea.
i think a problem with platinum coating copper is that if you have even a tiny crack in the platinum it starts to corrode the copper in that crack. the corrosion spreads underneath the platinum layer and eventually dislodges the platinum. Titanium on the other hand just passivates itself and stops further corrosion.
Better option might be to fill a titanium tube with copper and then platinum plate that. less resistance
@NOBOX7
Copper corrodes very easily if used as an anode, disintegrating with prolonged use. The conditions around anodes are very harsh and only a few substances, titanium included, can withstand them.
Therefore a titanium substrate is preferable to a copper substrate.
@electrosphere75
titanium was scrap off ebay. $45 for three large strips.
platinum electrode was a donation, but it costs the original buyer $150.
oh electrolyzing water is just a demonstration. The video was about showing how titanium passivates if used as an anode.
i'll be doing electrolysis in a later video
@Hydroxybenzeen, you're absolutely correct, but I think antiswatt2 is talking about a stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen in oxygen in the balloon, which makes the reaction of hydrogen more explosive and makes the balloon experiment more impressive than pure hydrogen. A lot of people incorrectly label this mixture as H2O gas.
thank you for posting again and another great vid
Excellent! i look forward to your video!
You should use MMO coated Ti or Ni anodes and platinum cathodes for the electrolysis of water. The MMO coating aids in the formation of O2 while the platinum aids the formation of H2. Commercial electrolyzers use this method to improve production. The MMO coating is made of oxides of metals such as manganese, tungsten and ruthenium, according to what I've read...
Excellent demonstration.
Passivation can be done by anodizing, but not all anodizing leads to a passive surface.
i'm demonstrating in this video the blocking of current due to an inert layer of titanium dioxide forming, passivation.
While it is anodizing, giving this a title of anodization would be more misleading because that's not the objective.
Kind of like drag racing, it's true that it's "combustion of gasoline" but that's not the objective, better title is "drag racing" or even "organ donor tryouts"
Anodizing, cool. Have you done experiments varying the voltage to create different colors? There is an artist who uses platinum as his canvas. He uses a brush connected to the cathode. Through varying the voltage, he can "paint" different colors on the titanium. He has also experimented with various electrolytes. I wish that worked on aluminum.
hey friend ,, great vid , i have a question though, in my past experance i have found that resistance heating of electrodes made of metals other then copper can cause excesive heating with only 10 to 15 amps at 12 volts, plastic melts at the temps i have observed in open bath testing, so my question is why not plate copper electrodes ,, im shure u have a very good reason for the titanium , i just wanted to tell you about the problems i have noticed during many test
@lillance785
sorry about that, This video has subtitles to help. turn those on to make it easier.
thanks for the info and just so im clear i was asking if it is possible to plate copper with platinum, i am aware of how fast copper corrodes in a cell but im intrested to no if i could possibly make my own platinum plated copper plates for an oxyhydro torch im building,,, you see ss steel gets very hot ,, up to 210 watts of heat is lost in just 6 inches at .02 ohms as a result of using stainless steel . but if you no a way to plate copper with platnuim it would be an amazing find for me ...
@antiswattt2
The explosive gas we are talking about is a mixture oxygen and hydrogen, mixed in stoichiometric ratio's (2:1, by volume). Steam will not do a thing. Yes ok you can blow up a balloon with steam until the pressure is big enought to make it pop. But that has nothing to do with the "explosive gas" .
In my preveous post you can see the equalation of the reaction of the electrolysis of (acidified) water.
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay electro chemistry! my favorite
ty nurdrage
@Paradox3121
Maybe he means H2O2 (Hydrogen-Peroxide), but you cant just put some electrodes in water to make it. That just produces a mixture of Hydrogen Gas, and Oxygen Gas. (Which is still an explosive mixture)
@NurdRage
This is a great video, I have been reading about this, but one can never know enough. More general knowledge about these exotic materials would help a lot to make things clear for people like myself who are experimenting with devices that produce HHO.
Thanks for sharing and showing this 5*
Some others are experimenting with nickel200 as electrodes for electrolysis. Do you know anything about the properties from nickel200 in regards to the electrolysis process?
Greets, iT
Cool, I am relearning my highschool chemistry through the art of flash backs lol.
could a coating of T-ox applied to other metals have the same effect ?
The voice threw me off a bit but over all it's a great video. You did a great job explaining it simply and smoothly.
I have been successfully using titanium foil as an annode conductor in a precious metal recovery copper sulphate parting cell. I can't say that I have witnessed this degradation of its performance. I would like to know how to recover the metals and sulphuric acid from the nickel fouled solution however. I've watched your video on separating the copper from the copper sulphate, and understand the need for a platinized electrode in that operation. That leaves the nickel, and possibly tin from the plated phosphor bronze e-scrap.
@antiswattt2 electricity breaks the bonds between certain compounds. as you know, compounds are held together with electrons.
Good, maybe you can demonstrate how to make a MMO coating too...
I wonder whether electrolysis of water could be be achieved using A/C current with one titanium electrode and say nickel or stainless steel for the other electrode / neutrals. I would like try HHO for glassblowing but from the reading I've done so far producing enough gas could be difficult. I thought it may be more efficient to use AC and also lower capital investment but apparently it cant be done as any gas produced converts back to H2O b4 it can dissipate away from the electrode.
finaly, a video
Your smart! I like you.your subjects are way off centre and it is the only place I feel comfortable.
@20kilovolt
i suppose for academic interests you could make the equivalent of a diode with this.
But as you've said, the equivalent reverse leakage, parasitic capacitance, forward voltage drop and resistance are all terrible. A diode hacked out of a radio performs better than this setup.
i know. thats why i want to see him do a video with it!
This experiment looks like to behave as an diode.
Is it possible to rectify a (low frequency) AC source?
Thanks DR.Lithium your video's are very instructive 5*
i do agree with u on this but i hope im not anoing you with my question of plating copper with platinum
intresting , i see what you mean, kinda the way paint or rust can be removed with electrolysis
Guys you can make some really cool ingredients with electrochemistry. Especially all pyrotechnical people should give special attention to this.
Keep the voice you have. It makes you sound like a really awesome scientist! (Not that you aren't already an awesome scientist)
Can I ask why you modify the pitich of your voice? if not you really do have a deep voice!
Okay I'm very ill so I can't do this myself but. I recently had a lab accident while decarboxylating salicylic acid I had a break in a piece of glass tubing causing a salicylic acid energetic burst that got all over glassware and some metal tools. I can't get this material my glassware or the metal with any chemicals scraping it is almost impossible it it's as if it turn to glass.
I have successfully made these electrodes before using manganese oxide excetera they work fairly well but do degrade in time which is a pain in the neck. I would love to see someone try to use both phenol and salicylic acid in one of these manganese or cobalt recipes to see if it extends the life of these electrodes and their coating.
I don't know the state of decarboxylation I believe the liquid that spattered on everything was actually phenol but it could have very well come from the other side of the reaction and then simply molten salicylic acid. Whatever the substance is it is incredibly resilient. I would love to see nurdrage try this and let us know if it does anything again I'm very sick I'm fighting a terrible illness and it puts me down for months or I do it myself.
I dont know how, but you seem inline with what ever my year 12 course is doing, electrochemisty :)
I thought you edited your voice to sound like that. But anyway keep that mike it sounds really cool that way.
is this how titanium is prepared for surgical implants? dental implants?
have read some titanium implants work well with bone while others become problematic. biocompatibility is the term used.
does titanium coated with titanium dioxide become less or non active in humans?
will you do a video on electrolysis of water i just bought a milwaukee orp meter with a platinum tip electrode and needed some help on how to go about it... (water quality)
I have a question. Where in the world can I purchase 2 of the platinum coated titanium, as you used in this video???? I have searched hi and low.
is this the same effect that pure aluminium exposed to air passivates by forming a layer of aluminium oxide ?
does titanium also passivate when exposed to air ?
can the thickness of the passivation layer be increased like with aluminium ?
How long will that platinum anode last if making hydrogen and oxygen from a diluted sulfuric acid and water?
Can the anode layer be removed by using the titanium as a cathode again?
Thank you these informations help a lot.
How about GOLD ?
Can gold be used to plate a titanium electrode and be used instead of platinum? im just curious, not that i think its better than just buying it.
Hi. Could you tell me: If i want to make KClO3 I must have a steal cathode and titan anode. A titan anode must be covered a layer cobalt oxide or manganese oxide? Cheaper for me is of course covered titanium anode cobalt or manganese oxide to protected the titan to passivated. What voltage must be keep? 5 V will enough?
Good video!!
can you please do a video with thermite?
You can make Dye-sensitized solar cells with inexpensive dyes :-)
@antiswattt2
Dude H2O is normal water.
I think you mean hydrogen?
Ti can be quite expensive..
HEY where do you get your platinum and titanium strips???
Where can I buy platinum, and how much it cost? I need it for the fuel cell to convert the hydrogen into electric power
I'm pretty sure that while he could make it he wouldn't want to use it - that stuff can burn through concrete.
i thought his vioce was edited for some sort of legal reason
can zinc stripes be a good anode?
can you do experiments on tungsten, thanks
It's been many year I'm still confusing betweeeen anode and cathode. These scientists need to wise up and call them by the correct name: nenode and posthode or was it the other way around.
Anode is to what the negative charges are attracted to and the kathode then the positive. If you are speaking of the technical flow of current it is swapped, that means you are assuming positive charges are moving in the medium, which is physically not possible, but was the one beeing set as standart back in the old days
What did you use for an electrolyte (sodium)?
Woah, platinum? I Wonder how much copper that is...
It seems I'm the minority here but I find the altered voice easier to understand than regular speech...
im ready!!
nice anode-cathode/passivation vid
Can you show the passivation of gold
that's alot of titanium...how much is it?
@antiswattt2
H2O in gaseous form, is allso called steam...
great vid
keep em commin :)
this could be used as a chemical diode.
ive noticed that with all your videos you say to subscribe rate and comment but for some of the videos ive come across you cannot leave a comment...i just thought id tell you...
It was hard to me to keep up with this stuff.
Barium from Barium Sulfate please.
Interesting stuff :P
Another awesome vid, by NURDRAGE. Hard core Chem FTW~!!!
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Could you not use the voice alteration please? You would be much easier to understand if you didn't post process your voice to sound like that.
@The0Burger0King more a badass one :p
greetings fella nerds!
sorry, ruthenium is too expensive
It's his real voice.
Agreed with insAneTunA...
Cool
@antiswattt2
I hope you're trolling, I really do.
cool
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@DjB2Productions omg really? ;D
Assertion without evidence is the worse form of science.
More vidio
5% sulpheric acid?, well thats interesting
coolio
i didn't understand a word he just said XD
hehe new toys.
try iridum
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