The Glory and Fall of Patroclus - The Trojan War Saga Ep 23 - See U in History

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  • The Glory and Fall of Patroclus - The Trojan War Saga Ep 23 - See U in History
    Art: Raphael Gritti
    Color: Rod Fernades
    #greekmythology
    #Mythology #SeeUinHistory #History #MythologyExplained

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  • @raptormage2209
    @raptormage2209 2 года назад +367

    Patroclus: *Bulldozes trough the Trojan army*
    Apollo: *Disconnects his controller*
    Patroclus: *dies*

    • @stateofflorida5082
      @stateofflorida5082 2 года назад +2

      Mf was using the mad katz controller, whaddya expect

    • @kodesh1674
      @kodesh1674 Год назад

      Mario noises 😂😂😂

  • @michaeldepinto3562
    @michaeldepinto3562 2 года назад +53

    Achilles is about to be UNLEASHED

  • @elijahtriton4547
    @elijahtriton4547 2 года назад +4

    Tnk u so much , Can't wait for next episode , please try and be uploading at least twice a week because I am now bored at home Ur videos are the only thing keeping me busy 🤝

  • @Gods7fiatful7kid
    @Gods7fiatful7kid 2 года назад +4

    Zeus really be a sore loser

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +3

    These goddesses are part of my harem.
    1. Athena
    2. Persephone
    3. Hera
    4. Aphrodite
    5. Nxy
    6. Artemis
    7. Demeter

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 2 года назад

      You got 3 feminists there they're gonna eat you alive

    • @GennySavastone
      @GennySavastone 2 года назад

      What about mccoist?

    • @DimoB8
      @DimoB8 2 года назад +6

      How about you touch some grass

  • @arturleperoke3205
    @arturleperoke3205 2 года назад +255

    Hector right after killing Patroclus: "why do I hear boss music?"

    • @alfonsandersson5501
      @alfonsandersson5501 Год назад +5

      The doom music started playing

    • @LinkNoort
      @LinkNoort 7 месяцев назад +1

      And the healt bar doesn't go down😂

  • @matthewlaurence3121
    @matthewlaurence3121 2 года назад +177

    Patroclus is often portrayed as a beautiful, cherubic youth whose characteristics contrast that of Achilles, yet this book as well as a passing reference earlier in the Illiad establish him as a manly ferocious warrior in his own right.
    There seems to be some variation as to the death of Patroclus: the original Homeric telling, has Hecter parade himself in the armour of Achilles in contempt for the Achaeans & Achilles. This act enrages Zeus, as the armour was a gift by the gods to Peleus the father of Achilles and can only be possessed by someone gifted or loaned by an original owner; thus Hecter commits dishonour & Zeus aligns against the Trojans thereafter as a consequence.

    • @vituscorvinus3110
      @vituscorvinus3110 Год назад +8

      "Patroclus is often portrayed as a beautiful, cherubic youth whose characteristics contrast that of Achilles,"
      This part is probably because of Shakespeare. To the Greeks, Patroclus was the older one/erastes, but Shakespeare kinda warped their relationship to suit his idea I guess.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Год назад +1

      ​​@@vituscorvinus3110I suppose they wanted Achilles to be the 'dominant' one in their relationship, like he was as a Warrior, so switched up the age and dynamics.

    • @gibbygoober2864
      @gibbygoober2864 7 месяцев назад +1

      In Madeline millers book their still both teens but the Iliad describes him as equal in strength and combat as Achilles, I mean they learned from the same teachers and sparred with each other since they were boys

  • @lucianking6078
    @lucianking6078 2 года назад +60

    So Patroclus almost took down Troy in one day and had to be stopped by a literal god. Talk about badass
    Well he was also trained by chiron

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 2 года назад +106

    Patroclus vs Sarpedon is one of the gretatest duels in the Iliad, and that because we see that even Zeus himself can't go against to what the Fates decided for each mortal, even if this mortal is a son of Zeus. The battle that followed Patroclus's death, for the retrievement of his dead body is one of the bloodiest in the entire Iliad, and it was once again Ajax in this critical moment, who step forward.

    • @wilhelmrk
      @wilhelmrk 2 года назад +4

      Depending on the interpretation, the battle for Sarpedons and Patroclus bodies are the most important ones.

    • @lorenzozinco9664
      @lorenzozinco9664 2 года назад +1

      It’s not that he can’t go against the fates. The main point is that he can’t show too much favouritism otherwise the gods would do even worse taking his actions as an example

    • @sorutonamikaze4754
      @sorutonamikaze4754 Год назад +1

      menelaus saved the corpse of patroclus

  • @gooddeity8487
    @gooddeity8487 2 года назад +75

    The rage of Achilles is gonna rain upon Trojans

  • @jewris.art11
    @jewris.art11 2 года назад +77

    Patroclus was destined to die.
    A pawn of one of the gods but a soulmate to the strongest warrior in great mythology.

  • @lafreyaya9629
    @lafreyaya9629 2 года назад +23

    "What has Hector ever done to me?"

  • @aniruddhbhatkal1834
    @aniruddhbhatkal1834 2 года назад +82

    I had no idea Patroclus was in fact defeated by Euphorbus, not Hector.
    What happened to Euphorbus? I'd gave thought Achilles would want his hide just as badly as Hector's

    • @matthewlaurence3121
      @matthewlaurence3121 2 года назад +22

      Nor did I, it was always Hecter who did the slaying following a hard battle. It might be because Patroclus was prophesied to fall in the event that he crossed paths with him, and it is Hecter who takes credit for slaying Patroclus, in addition to profaning the Armour of Peleus(father of Achilles), and leading the Trojan forces?

    • @raptormage2209
      @raptormage2209 2 года назад +25

      He tried to take Patroclus' body but instead he got a spear from Menelaus whom was defending his corpse.

  • @RepubliKING
    @RepubliKING 2 года назад +31

    Just think,Patroclus death sealed Troy's fate... Achilles was not only ok with not fighting this war anymore, but he had fallen in love and his heart of granite had finally been touched. Fate is a strange thing.

  • @E.F5980
    @E.F5980 2 года назад +67

    Zeus: Oh no! Sarpedon, my child, he's in danger!!
    Ares: Dad! I was in danger as well!
    Zeus: Excuse you, but who are you again?

    • @isaklal518
      @isaklal518 2 года назад +4

      I get the joke but we all know Ares was just whining and wasn't really in danger

    • @eelchiong6709
      @eelchiong6709 2 года назад +10

      @@isaklal518
      Ares after being wounded by an Athena-guided spear from Diomedes: Tis just a scratch!

    • @Lazarus-qd3wu
      @Lazarus-qd3wu 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@isaklal518Was he even whining? I haven't read this story yet, but it seems like Ares is just showing off a cool battle wound for his dad to stick on the refrigerator.

  • @LordWyatt
    @LordWyatt 2 года назад +68

    “That boy just won this war for us.”
    -King Agamemnon at Patroclus’ pyre

    • @LL-id5ij
      @LL-id5ij 2 года назад

      *Saved

    • @ThePaganSun
      @ThePaganSun 11 месяцев назад +3

      In the MOVIE. In the actual Iliad, Agamemnon himself almost takes down Troy. And he wasn't added by gods or had Achilles' armor, chariot and the Myrmidons.

  • @navdhillon7912
    @navdhillon7912 2 года назад +17

    Achilles' "friend" lol

    • @x-omnistar-x9602
      @x-omnistar-x9602 Год назад +4

      Although it is true that Patroclus and Achilles were portrayed as lovers in later retellings of the Illiad that occured 200 years after Homer’s death, in the first tellings of the myth by Homer himself, the two WERE actually just friends. Their bond was intended to symbolize the undying loyalty between brothers in arms.

  • @megabladechronicles962
    @megabladechronicles962 2 года назад +117

    Patroclus had it coming, he was warned by Achilles not to fight Hector

    • @panmeilungdaini4353
      @panmeilungdaini4353 2 года назад +21

      But it's was god's plan

    • @panmeilungdaini4353
      @panmeilungdaini4353 2 года назад +26

      Patrockus could have won against Hector

    • @michaeldepinto3562
      @michaeldepinto3562 2 года назад +31

      He wasn't a Coward and went Down like a True Warrior!

    • @arliesam217
      @arliesam217 2 года назад +4

      ​@@panmeilungdaini4353 mythological God

    • @wilhelmrk
      @wilhelmrk 2 года назад +9

      Patroclus was warned because Apollo would struck down the one that wore that armour. Basically what achilles said was: If you get into the reach of Troys walls and archers, Apollo will guide an arrow to struck whoever wears this armour

  • @jorgecuevas8843
    @jorgecuevas8843 2 года назад +8

    3:12 "cherished friend" why don't You Say what he really was?

    • @bubunmukherjee2857
      @bubunmukherjee2857 Месяц назад

      Man did not yet sink to that amount of depravity in those ages

  • @ahsanfarazansari4770
    @ahsanfarazansari4770 2 года назад +12

    In the next episode,
    Achilles- "HECTOOOOORRRRRRR!!!!!"

  • @NoelleIsTheGeoArchon
    @NoelleIsTheGeoArchon 2 года назад +16

    Achilles: I dont feel fighting the Trojans.
    Pratoclus dies.
    Achilles: F*ck! Trojans going down!

  • @C9316
    @C9316 2 года назад +39

    "I'm sorry Achilles, but Patroclus is dead."
    *To Be Continued*

  • @rickywyness5230
    @rickywyness5230 Год назад +4

    LOVER* They were not merely friends.

  • @ladynikkie
    @ladynikkie 2 года назад +25

    What a way to start the weekend by seeing another video from you guys

  • @charliemcternan8190
    @charliemcternan8190 2 года назад +7

    The net episode of the Great War thdi will be crsyz

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview 2 года назад +6

    Not too shabby man this Patroclus. Can beat a son of Zeus

  • @kevin-2.1
    @kevin-2.1 2 года назад +6

    If Apollo haven’t come Patroclus would of challenge Hector to a fight.

  • @reddhafallen7289
    @reddhafallen7289 2 года назад +14

    It is disgraceful to intervene in human conflict to protect one if their descendants. And yet isn't that what Aphrodite did? To save her son, only for Diomedes to recklessly graze her hand with a spear.

    • @wilhelmrk
      @wilhelmrk 2 года назад +5

      Yes, so basically they Gods intervened in the war directly at the beginning, with Ares and Apollo even going so far as roaming the battlefield (that is when Diomedes defeats Ares by throwing his spear into the belly of the god of war). Only after that does Zeus decree that no god should interfere (directly).

    • @lukavidakovic2385
      @lukavidakovic2385 2 года назад +1

      Ares apollo athena and aphrodite did it from the start but when zeus wants oooh noooo

    • @matthewlaurence3121
      @matthewlaurence3121 2 года назад

      That's part of the Epic, men from far away fighting a war instigated by entities more powerful than themselves, who direct their fates.
      A parallel to real world conflicts.

    • @michaeldepinto3562
      @michaeldepinto3562 2 года назад

      @@lukavidakovic2385 LOL

    • @klausbrinck2137
      @klausbrinck2137 2 года назад

      Of course it is disgraceful, but gods will break the rules just slightly less than mortals will. The concept of belief was different back then, by Greeks anyway, and they didn´t have organized religion (the birthcause of all evil)... That´s why western Europe had 1000years of dark ages, while the eastern roman empire had none of it: Eastern Romans were romanized Greeks, and the emperor had all powers, while the christian church being just another power-tool of his, used with great wisdom. Western Europe had continous wars between emperors and popes, and when the popes were winning, Europe was sinking deeper in the dark ages, and when the emperor was winning, they were merely getting the chance to correct the damage, that the previously ruling pope has caused, without any net-progress for 1000years...

  • @y.ucenXiang6082
    @y.ucenXiang6082 2 года назад +22

    Greek mythology is one of my favorite mythology, i love this channel and will continue on hearing its tales

  • @FluffeyPandasWorld
    @FluffeyPandasWorld 2 года назад +6

    Ajax the Great Ultimate Dead Body Snatcher of the Trojan War.

  • @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices
    @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices 2 года назад +3

    "What has Hector ever done to me?"

  • @SkullRaine
    @SkullRaine 2 года назад +5

    You going to include penthiseala the amazonian queen and the African king Memnon. Sorry spelled the queen's name wrong. Lots of people never talk about them. They came in after Hector's death

  • @jasonpower6578
    @jasonpower6578 2 года назад +10

    Fun Fact: Achilles and Patroclus are cousins (not because of the the Troy 2004 film). They were actual cousins in greek myth since you can trace their genealogy to Aegina who is the great grandmother of Achilles and Patroclus

    • @vituscorvinus3110
      @vituscorvinus3110 Год назад +9

      There are 4 different versions of parenthood for Patroclus I believe. Only one implies blood connection. Like how Ganymede had 4-5 fathers depending on the version of the myth.

    • @lckyminer_2256
      @lckyminer_2256 Год назад

      How old is that source came upon?

    • @50frogsinatrenchcoat9
      @50frogsinatrenchcoat9 Год назад

      No

    • @jasonpower6578
      @jasonpower6578 Год назад

      @@50frogsinatrenchcoat9 Yes it's true

  • @macthurmenbutist2180
    @macthurmenbutist2180 2 года назад +7

    Finally some entertainment

  • @13superjedi
    @13superjedi 2 года назад +6

    I could see this being like a story arc in a Game of Thrones style show with Greek History and Mythology the way this channel tells the events. Awesome videos!

  • @joss4074
    @joss4074 Год назад +2

    His best friend since child hood dies, causing Achilles to go on a vengeful rampage.
    Modern Historians: This clearly demonstrates that Achilles was after that Patroclussy

  • @BuriedAlien-TRN242
    @BuriedAlien-TRN242 2 года назад +4

    1:48 did you say Patroclos dodged a spear ? And the picture show us he dodged an axe 🤔 ?

  • @BovineDesigns
    @BovineDesigns Год назад +2

    1:22 this is the one time I agree with Zeus, the other gods have been constantly interfering with the war to save individuals.

  • @rowenavillanueva2606
    @rowenavillanueva2606 2 года назад +4

    TROY IS GONNA FALL HUWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @christianchauhan23
    @christianchauhan23 2 года назад +6

    ❤ all your video's mate 👍.

  • @tyrrant1374
    @tyrrant1374 2 года назад +4

    Almost every modern movie trope comes from this story but still the Trojan war feels so good

  • @danewillis263
    @danewillis263 2 года назад +4

    It was at this moment that the tide of the war turns in the Greeks favor

  • @TraderKentaro
    @TraderKentaro 6 месяцев назад +1

    That's the tragic end of Achilles' husband...

  • @moonbeam3010
    @moonbeam3010 2 года назад +2

    Next Chapter
    Patroclus:
    Hectoc: Uh oh

  • @slayer5571
    @slayer5571 2 года назад +4

    Can't wait for the next video !

  • @DarthDread-oh2ne
    @DarthDread-oh2ne 10 месяцев назад +1

    2:08 Zeus cared about his boy

  • @boreasthehero
    @boreasthehero 2 года назад +2

    When will the Arthurian Legends story continue again?

  • @Numidiary
    @Numidiary 2 года назад +3

    I like the fire and steam effects in this one

  • @MrWadewynn
    @MrWadewynn 2 года назад +2

    I don’t like this version, the version i grew up reading was where Patroclus fought hard and well and held his own against Hector who was always at an advantage, but the match was relatively even until Hector finally triumphed. It also explains how Achilles so easily killed Hector since Hector couldn’t easily best Patroclus

    • @Geets99
      @Geets99 2 года назад

      This sounds more realistic but i assure u the version of the video is the written one.. actually im pretty shocked with the precision and details of the whole series cause its actually almost exactly what is written in original Iliad.. terrific work from the channel
      (P.s. Im Greek✌🏼)

    • @MrWadewynn
      @MrWadewynn 2 года назад +2

      @@Geets99 interesting. The one i read had no god interference, so that makes me sad your version is the correct one. But either way Patroclus dies

  • @christianalvarez197
    @christianalvarez197 2 года назад +1

    You guys narrate that Sarpedon has a spear but show him with an axe....?

  • @bobbysalkeld2634
    @bobbysalkeld2634 2 года назад +3

    This channel is awesome as I've been interested in myths and legends of of different cultures since I was a kid. Good stuff.

  • @lordawesometony2764
    @lordawesometony2764 2 года назад +1

    **Patroclus wins**
    **Final Fantasy Victory Song Plays**

  • @kie-skatemods4141
    @kie-skatemods4141 2 года назад +3

    These are re awesome! Keep them up

  • @aubreyyoung6664
    @aubreyyoung6664 2 года назад +3

    The only difference is that in the story Patroclus was his friend but in the movie Troy he was his cousin it’s a really big difference

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 2 года назад +6

      They were cousins in the story as well.

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki 2 года назад +4

      @@mpfunomkhwebane5362 nope they weren't

    • @shonenhikada9254
      @shonenhikada9254 2 года назад

      @@mpfunomkhwebane5362 The whole idea that they were lovers came from the misguided book "song of achilles" which wanted to push LGBT+ lifestyle. And as we all know, liberals love to turn everyone gay in fiction just for "representation" and "inclusion".

    • @rkllteles
      @rkllteles 2 года назад +1

      @@whatever_he_wants Did you even read The Iliad? Patroclus and Acchiles being lovers is a fanfiction by Madeline Miller.

    • @crimsonthumos3905
      @crimsonthumos3905 2 года назад +1

      @@mpfunomkhwebane5362 change tje story? They weren't lovers in the Illiad, stop getting your mythology from Tumblr

  • @50frogsinatrenchcoat9
    @50frogsinatrenchcoat9 Год назад +1

    I swear if say that they are just friends

  • @alicerivierre
    @alicerivierre 2 года назад +2

    ♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️

  • @goaheadandcrylittlegirl3222
    @goaheadandcrylittlegirl3222 2 года назад +2

    Greek mythology❤❤❤

  • @gooddeity8487
    @gooddeity8487 2 года назад +6

    Fans from India🇮🇳🇮🇳 ❤❤❤

  • @DeepBlueSea692
    @DeepBlueSea692 2 года назад +1

    Where’s part 2?

  • @adu-boakyecollins8576
    @adu-boakyecollins8576 2 года назад +1

    Can't wait for the next part

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +4

    I went south on Aphrodite and Persephone and Athena

  • @gemma7842
    @gemma7842 2 года назад

    Hope there’s a next video.. been watching all your videos. Your voice is soothing…

  • @arliesam217
    @arliesam217 2 года назад +3

    Achilles revenge was pathetic

  • @Sulla-ps3jv
    @Sulla-ps3jv 2 года назад

    The song is Arrival by Edgar Hopp.

  • @chefy807
    @chefy807 Год назад

    friend?

  • @cristsan4171
    @cristsan4171 2 года назад

    Apollo doing a karate chop. So this is a Hentai

  • @markermarque9843
    @markermarque9843 2 года назад

    Keep it coming good sir... I absolutely love your channel's contents...

  • @Samael66638
    @Samael66638 2 года назад

    Now i just want too see Achilles in action plz make that video soon ❤️❤️❤️

  • @saladsnake8289
    @saladsnake8289 Год назад

    Patroclus got nerfed hard.

  • @shanequigley7552
    @shanequigley7552 2 года назад +4

    Great channel

  • @josebarros582
    @josebarros582 2 года назад

    thats total war troy sarpedon =)

  • @farah_nm162
    @farah_nm162 2 года назад

    Can we have more of this saga, please??🥺🥺

  • @Tekmirion
    @Tekmirion 2 года назад

    Very good

  • @acheampongisaac1734
    @acheampongisaac1734 Год назад

    Yes indeed Patroclus was a fool to fight hector that day

  • @lanzhanweiying6875
    @lanzhanweiying6875 2 года назад

    I'm so excited for the next episode

  • @efaristi9737
    @efaristi9737 2 года назад

    Nestor did a oopsie daisy XD

  • @MaylenSan
    @MaylenSan 2 года назад

    This is an excellent video series

  • @maianhquang5425
    @maianhquang5425 2 года назад

    MORE! MORE!

  • @iamjabby3688
    @iamjabby3688 2 года назад

    Great series

  • @LewiLuvLife
    @LewiLuvLife 2 года назад +8

    “Friend” they were boyfriends

  • @gorvarhadgarson5227
    @gorvarhadgarson5227 2 года назад +3

    Achilles was Patrocles' "training partner" eh?
    Alright....

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @1sonjohn44
    @1sonjohn44 2 года назад +4

    The boy lover of Achilles also....

  • @acientwomangreek1733
    @acientwomangreek1733 2 года назад +2

    ...why is everyone there so white tho ....

  • @achilles7607
    @achilles7607 Год назад

    "Even though twenty such as you had come in against me, they would all have been broken beneath my spear, and have perished."
    - Patroclus🏺⚔️