The term your both looking for is "dissonant". There's dissonant minor seconds which are resolved (God I hope I'm not using that term incorrectly) towards the middle. The dissonance, to most people, gives it a more child-like feel. As well as helping to opening the hand up as a player with proper fingering.
It truly is a masterpiece, one of the most beautiful romantic melodies out there. Also the way this pianist played at 1:14 to 1:17 is just out of this world!
@@leesiheon8013 also piano piece difficulties to play in terms of technical stuff does not define your skill in the intrument. So many more variables than that (sight reading, music theory knowledge, little nuances in terms of technique)
@@leesiheon8013 wait what does that have to do with what i said? I was just saying that no one should measure a players skill by something like the hardest piece they can play. It wasnt directed at you in particular
I suppose to some, particularly in Chopin's time, this may actually sound "dissonant". I've been knowingly aware of this work since I was a child back in the 1950's yet even then it never struck me as dissonant. My teacher was Hungarian and had me playing Bartok before Bach. It didn't really make me a better pianist but it did open my mind to the more progressive approach to appreciating music I might have had to wait till college to hear otherwise. Mimi, bless her soul, opened my mind. Thanks!
i couldnt remember the nnumber of this etude, so i just googled "chopin drunken etude" and found it. i have no idea if I heard that nickname somewhere or just started calling it that but apparently google understands!
bubbaXzone I know it seems like a contradiction of terms but if you follow the flow of this etude, its apparent moments of dissonance are beautifully intertwined with that harmony that makes Chopin so mesmerizing. But this is just my take on this piece. You're entitled to have your own perspective. :)
The good thing about this piece is that you can literally mash whatever note you like in the bottom half of the right hand and nobody could tell the difference
@@nadie2919 No need to be pedantic. "Classical music" can refer both to music from the Classical era and to the larger Common Practice period that spanned more than 300 years. Here, the latter usage is applied correctly.
Only a genius could learn chopin Études by ear, really. They're meant to be harsh as hell skill wise, and therefore sheet reading is necessary to approach these pieces really.
I really thought the beginning of this composition would be easy because it sounds like what I play all the time, but it’s even harder because your fingers want to move to keys that don’t clash as much
@billy13i Isn't it obvious? Each and every chord has an acciaccatura played on the beat, a semitone down from the proper lowest note of the chord, which is played immediately afterwards - these acciaccaturas are the 'wrong notes'.
I got into piano because of “Your Lie In April”, I got into some Classical Musics because of “Your Lie In April”, so pretty much a lot based on piano and piano music as well as boiling and violin music is all because of that Anime.
cedric robertson I think although it sounds modernist, it's very distant from that concept: it's still romantic. The romantic era is full of superb composers, like Chopin or Liszt, that explore the boundaries of the piano - they create and discover, so they are just creative. The Twelve Transcendental Etudes or the Twenty-Four Chopin Preludes, for exemple. Modernism, in the other hand, is not about creativity, it's about shocking and destroying the concept of art. To sum up, even if the Etude op. 25, n° 5 (or many many other pieces) could be composed by modernists, we always have to consider the intention and inspiration that lies in the core of the music.
cedric robertson You should consider that this is an etude which is a piece written to work on some technical aspect. Kind of like an advanced Hannon exercise.
modern "experts" who don't know that this is chopin will probably condemn the piece to the ground. But if after the interview they were told that it was chopin, their tone will change immediately.
@raticida123456 yes I do know what dissonance is. my professional study is in music you know. maybe I should clarify...my original comment states that I was hoping for more dissonance to be presented in the piece than what it had. For me personally, I prefer radically dissonant pieces that is not usually on the top of an "average listener's" list. This is still yet very tonal. Listen to Prokofiev's toccata in d minor for example. That is the kind of dissonance I was hoping for :)
This piece makes me smile everytime I hear it.... The piu lento part is so awesome! First the living part and then the lyrical part *.* @chutdigadut I totally agree =)
This "wrong note" dissonant effect is more audible at the Cortot version of this etude. Generally, Cziffra wasn't as good as his teacher at playing Chopin...
@deadcatautopsy87 There's also another wonderful thing called 'trolling'. Also, how can I be sorry for being dim-witted? Maybe I was born dim-witted? Or am I just being dim-witted? *bring it on, dude*
It is already at a difficult level. I would guess that this piece would be even more difficult than similar piece because it uses the "wrong notes". Wrong notes must throw off your intuition.
@Zebeldarebel :: I think the recording (or RUclips quality-reduction) hides much of the real sound. But any way the name "wrong note etude" is thought of as a joke, maybe even a sick joke.
+Frédéric Chopin Sorry! I made the comment before reading the others and seeing people say the same thing. I hope mine would just slip through and everyone would forget.
I love the beginning, it sounds... 'messy' but for some reason I find it beautiful...
It sounds so awefully crooked, but it's so captivating that I just can not begin to express how much I love this piece
The term your both looking for is "dissonant". There's dissonant minor seconds which are resolved (God I hope I'm not using that term incorrectly) towards the middle. The dissonance, to most people, gives it a more child-like feel. As well as helping to opening the hand up as a player with proper fingering.
Night Angel
you are, it's on the Wikipedia page :)
That's the point
Isabel 00204 kinda like how people paint things purposefully off perspective
The melody in the middle section is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard
It truly is a masterpiece, one of the most beautiful romantic melodies out there. Also the way this pianist played at 1:14 to 1:17 is just out of this world!
It's the first few notes of the étude but in the parallel Major key.
@@GeodesicBruh omg ur right
Time spent practicing piano today: 40 mins
Time spent watching RUclips today: 3 hours
Chance of me therefore ever playing this Etude: 0
Little Kiwi switch the times around
Practice doesn’t mean anything unless u have an extremely good teacher making sure ur practicing the right thing
@@leesiheon8013 also piano piece difficulties to play in terms of technical stuff does not define your skill in the intrument. So many more variables than that (sight reading, music theory knowledge, little nuances in terms of technique)
@@leesiheon8013 wait what does that have to do with what i said? I was just saying that no one should measure a players skill by something like the hardest piece they can play. It wasnt directed at you in particular
@@leesiheon8013 nah its fine haha
the wrong note etude is truly dissonant but it truly sets up the next section that is so melodious.
I suppose to some, particularly in Chopin's time, this may actually sound "dissonant". I've been knowingly aware of this work since I was a child back in the 1950's yet even then it never struck me as dissonant. My teacher was Hungarian and had me playing Bartok before Bach. It didn't really make me a better pianist but it did open my mind to the more progressive approach to appreciating music I might have had to wait till college to hear otherwise. Mimi, bless her soul, opened my mind. Thanks!
You are very lucky! I learned the other way around and Bartok sound very alien in the beginning.
i couldnt remember the nnumber of this etude, so i just googled "chopin drunken etude" and found it. i have no idea if I heard that nickname somewhere or just started calling it that but apparently google understands!
dontdothngs wow you’re not lying
The harmony of dissonance.
Katy Spulber castlevania harmony of dissonance? :P
bubbaXzone I know it seems like a contradiction of terms but if you follow the flow of this etude, its apparent moments of dissonance are beautifully intertwined with that harmony that makes Chopin so mesmerizing. But this is just my take on this piece. You're entitled to have your own perspective. :)
Katy Spulber
no i totally agree its just the fact you said harmony of dissonance i thought of castlevania haha.
bubbaXzone Haha, sorry! I did not think of that.
@@music4katy let’s face it you did not know what he was talking about xD
Two words to describe this : beautiful mess
Personally, i never had the feeling of any wrong note in this so beautiful piece of music !!!
The greatness of this performance is that it doesn't sound like an etude - just the incredibly inspired composition that it is....
This pretty much sums up me on a bad day. Such as every weekend I've ever worked ever.
Its pretty! If this is played with emotions invoved, this will be beautiful.
Chopin: Dissonant heh
Stravinsky: Let me introduce myself
I'm lovin all Chopin Etude so far. Now next etude....click.
Forever shall you be my favourite music piece~!
Basically, Chopin is such a beast that he can randomly play notes and they will still sound good
Had to come listen to this after hearing Kyle Landry play it on stream... Great piece.
There’s an incredible restored recording of busoni playing this on RUclips somewhere it is magical and I highly recommend it. Cziffra is god virtuoso.
The good thing about this piece is that you can literally mash whatever note you like in the bottom half of the right hand and nobody could tell the difference
One thing that I just realized is that classical music is symbolic. Everyone has their own meaning to the melody.
This isn't classical music, this is romanticism.
@@nadie2919 No need to be pedantic. "Classical music" can refer both to music from the Classical era and to the larger Common Practice period that spanned more than 300 years. Here, the latter usage is applied correctly.
@@JohnJohnson-yi6jg true
My oh my. I learned lux aeterna by ear but this is a whole new kind of beast. I don't even know how to read sheet music .-.
Only a genius could learn chopin Études by ear, really. They're meant to be harsh as hell skill wise, and therefore sheet reading is necessary to approach these pieces really.
Andrea Urru NO ONE could learn this by ear. its literally impossible
Frédéric Chopin I don't think it's impossible, actually.
Frédéric Chopin Liszt could do it.
thats a funny comment
doesn't sound dissonant to me
this is one of my favourite pieces of music
Thats why music theory is stupid. Anything that falls out of something that people's ears simply arent used to is classified as dissonant.
Magnificent interpretation!
This is the best performance of this Etude I've heard.
I really thought the beginning of this composition would be easy because it sounds like what I play all the time, but it’s even harder because your fingers want to move to keys that don’t clash as much
i found it trough the anime shigatsu wa kimi no uso (your lie in april) such a sad anime T^T but thats my favorite music
there's a movie coming out this month
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Lie_in_April_(film)
I didn't like that anime, such a tear jerker, gaah. -.-'
Cool dude did i ask tho lol
Playing the beginning slow bringing out the bottom notes I prefer this sound
when chopin composes dissonance it still sounds beautiful.
@billy13i Isn't it obvious? Each and every chord has an acciaccatura played on the beat, a semitone down from the proper lowest note of the chord, which is played immediately afterwards - these acciaccaturas are the 'wrong notes'.
Shigatsu wa kimi no uso I know it from this anime
I got into piano because of “Your Lie In April”, I got into some Classical Musics because of “Your Lie In April”, so pretty much a lot based on piano and piano music as well as boiling and violin music is all because of that Anime.
these dissonances are CHOPINg me, man!
@billy13i
The main melody is riddled with 7ths, that's why. Not that it's bad, that's just the way Chopin wrote it.
AGAIN!
Raymund Pierce how daaare you
“So am going to play....For You”-Kousei Arima
chopin go home, you're drunk.
Casterly Smooth Jazz still sounds good thiugh
Wrong could never sound more right. This for music is the equivalent of magnetic poles shifting for earth.
I don't quite know what was thinking chopin when he write this, is very postmodern don't you think?
cedric robertson nop
cedric robertson I think although it sounds modernist, it's very distant from that concept: it's still romantic. The romantic era is full of superb composers, like Chopin or Liszt, that explore the boundaries of the piano - they create and discover, so they are just creative. The Twelve Transcendental Etudes or the Twenty-Four Chopin Preludes, for exemple. Modernism, in the other hand, is not about creativity, it's about shocking and destroying the concept of art. To sum up, even if the Etude op. 25, n° 5 (or many many other pieces) could be composed by modernists, we always have to consider the intention and inspiration that lies in the core of the music.
Honestly, the tritone intervals of D#(E - B) actually cancels the dissonance, so it's not really modern. Ingenious nonetheless.
nop
cedric robertson You should consider that this is an etude which is a piece written to work on some technical aspect. Kind of like an advanced Hannon exercise.
Chopin is freaking awesome :(
Chopin was SUCH a genius
modern "experts" who don't know that this is chopin will probably condemn the piece to the ground. But if after the interview they were told that it was chopin, their tone will change immediately.
@raticida123456 yes I do know what dissonance is. my professional study is in music you know. maybe I should clarify...my original comment states that I was hoping for more dissonance to be presented in the piece than what it had. For me personally, I prefer radically dissonant pieces that is not usually on the top of an "average listener's" list. This is still yet very tonal. Listen to Prokofiev's toccata in d minor for example. That is the kind of dissonance I was hoping for :)
am I the only one who found this piece very beautiful?
@Zebeldarebel That's pretty dissonant for romantic. Plus, on wrong note may sound pretty dissonant, but it may...sorta fit, like the do here.
beautiful part 0:46
This piece makes me smile everytime I hear it....
The piu lento part is so awesome! First the living part and then the lyrical part *.*
@chutdigadut I totally agree =)
@Peanutz1337 same here mate... same here...
yay a new piece for me to play wrong notes on
That’s probably the fastest vivace marking I’ve seen.
@newFranzFerencLiszt it soiunds so good
@MrPianoLover1 whoa.
METAL
This "wrong note" dissonant effect is more audible at the Cortot version of this etude. Generally, Cziffra wasn't as good as his teacher at playing Chopin...
Cortot was not Cziffra's teacher.
Good
Holy Sheet!
This is probably pretty good practice being that it is different than most pieces, so you actually have to think about it
Out!
This Etude always remember me to a drunk man... :))
@Zebeldarebel You want really a brilliant piece of dissonance? Look up 'Kapustin - Five Etudes in Different Intervals Op. 68 No. 1'. Freaking epic.
It reached me...
The People Who Don’t Like Classical Music Are Just Jealous Because They Can’t Play Classical Music.
- David Franklin Dart
Is there a wrong note around 0:07
@deadcatautopsy87 There's also another wonderful thing called 'trolling'. Also, how can I be sorry for being dim-witted? Maybe I was born dim-witted?
Or am I just being dim-witted?
*bring it on, dude*
Maybe wrong for a composer like Schubert or Schumann, but perfect for Chopin.
*slaps a dozen Scriabin videos in your face*
I can't hear the music.
+Kezza Wilson I'll play for her.
Kezza Wilson how dare you
Actually
You're able to hear when others are playing
It's just that when you play it concentrating, you can't play it
No, you just have to listen BETWEEN the notes.
I CANT HEAR THE MUSIC SOMEONE HELP
@Zebeldarebel i thought that too when i saw the title ; )
Honestly, Chopin must have been on some drug because his pieces are frightening to play, but always sound so innocent and it’s *_frustrating_*
The first part reminds me of my beagles barking lol.
Does anyone has tips on how to memorize this piece?😭🙏
It is already at a difficult level. I would guess that this piece would be even more difficult than similar piece because it uses the "wrong notes". Wrong notes must throw off your intuition.
I can sorta play it
@Zebeldarebel :: I think the recording (or RUclips quality-reduction) hides much of the real sound. But any way the name "wrong note etude" is thought of as a joke, maybe even a sick joke.
@Zebeldarebel are you kiniding?? this is very disonance!!
mas sin embargo no tiene disonancias asperas
Cute.
Looks complicated!
Sounds like jazz to me
Now i know the reason why it's called the "Wrong Note"
0.57/0.58 Strange right hand accent ?
7/6/2020 uwu
What if I played this at my school?
This is me when I have no idea how to play a Chopins compotition.
aw, i was expecting more dissonance...
@raticida123456 Listen to some Prokofiev or Stravinsky ;)
If those were wrong notes, I wouldn't mind commiting mistakes.
I laughed. This is exactly what I think every time ..
this song is almost cute :3
the beginning is so dissonant
thats what makes this song amazing
Thrnuby RBLX Ryder i really like the begining but not this intrepetation
Ben Kim Yes, especially when Lady Gaga sings it
Thrnuby RBLX Ryder no digas
Okay I know this is a beautiful song and all, but doesn't the beginning sound like a song from Ib?
its not a fucking song ...
+Frédéric Chopin No need for anger, Freddy.
+Frédéric Chopin Sorry! I made the comment before reading the others and seeing people say the same thing. I hope mine would just slip through and everyone would forget.
@Zebeldarebel do you know what is disonance??
Head-butt a piano, you'll get the dissonance you want!
How about "Appoggiatura" Etude?
So if I played this, would it be obvious if I missed a few notes here and there? :P
@Zebeldarebel But it still Chopin ;)
Sounds like Bill Evans
Came her after listening to the microtonal version ._.
hm.. thanks for being my google! this music suits this conversation. See what I did there? :)
@steamednotfried Then go away. :p
This song is like the sound representation of oxymoron
I can't hear wrong notes, only a Beautiful Song
@Zodiarkz examples?
The best ending to the "Wrong Note" would have been an A#!
scriabin? better get him some schoenberg