Меня всегда удивляла и восхищала гениальность Российских учёных, создающих такое вооружение, которое не имеет аналогов в мире. Для этих людей НЕТ конкурентов. А летчики, это АСЫ с большой буквы. Я горжусь тем, что живу в России !!!
having known a USMC chopper veteran, i distinctly remember when he told me that only about 4 in 10 pilots serving a 100 mission tour were going to make it home, and that the average lifespan in mission flight hours of a chopper pilot was roughly 30 minutes.
Ever since the Mig-29 first entered service, I fell in love with Russian fighters. They are beautiful, they perform extremely well and in my opinion Russian fighter planes clearly outperform anything with wings. Even the expensive F-22 Raptor. Good job Russia.!!
The technology is called thrust vectoring. The exhaust of the aircraft is channeled in different directions to help the aircraft maneuver better. Inherently, most combat aircraft are aerodynamically unstable. indeed this allows it to perform high G maneuvers. Good structural design is important to keep the plane in one piece while doing so. Nevertheless, aircrafts remain in level flight most of their service life so it must also be able to perform well under these conditions. math=power.
@zibbaen Also, the 22 can be armed as a stike fighter, just as the 15 and 14 were. The 35 is a small plane, some of which can hover, meant for close-in ground support. It comes in hot and heavy, lays a beat down, and bugs of. The 22 is a MASSIVE airplane, it engages targets from the horizon line and remains in the area indefinitely providing strike, overwatch, recon, support, and defense. That's the difference.
@ImDimon As far as I remember the F-15 Eagle was made as a counter to the hyped projections of the MiG-25 (NATO-codename Foxbat). The MiG-25 as allegedly a super-fast (mach 3 or something), super-maneuverable, super-fighter with BVR-capabilities (It turned out to be a mach 2.83 interceptor with the same turning abilities as a truck doing 180 km/h on ice). The F-15 was made as a pure turn-and-burn fighter with BVR-capabilities.
@zibbaen wikipedia . org/wiki/Air_superiority_fighter ... wikipedia . org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter_Program. An ASF is meant to enter airspace and completely cripple all counter offensive flights. A JSF is meant to enter airspace for striking/support purposes, perhaps lingering to provide overwatch and troop cover. We use harriers/hornets in the mountains of Afghanistan, or in Iraq. We use ASF primarily for escorts, and for invasion purpose (the "no fly" in Iraq was patrolled by ASFs)
Russian Aircraft are pretty impressive Aircraft. I love the Sukoi-35 and The Mig-29 Falacrum. Im an american I still love my F-15E,F-16Flacons,F/A-18 SuperHornets!.
I did the same for you...with the exception that on this one I hit thumbs sown on accident....By the way, I really like the fact that you are open minded and can have an exchange of words with out getting all crazy like some others here.
Test pilot says you have to pet your aircraft and give him a friendly clap (without gloves even if its cold) because it likes it ;) also interesting was a comment by the old guy who talked about their AI and automation of all kinds of maneuvers - starting from takeoff and landings to combat and missile evasion programs to help the pilot - also some safety measures where board computer doesn't comply with attempted maneuvers that would make the jet crash like the one shown in the vid.
lets see the F-22 and T-50 are both evenly matched so it really comes down to the pilot and the US spends about 2 million training one pilot ( so with that to go on I think we have a bit of a edge, but great machine any ways - best regards from the US
so the T-50 (PAK FA) is flying after about 3 yr delay , not the fact its techincally nearly 30 yrs behind the USAF ATF , and point out that PAK FA is a in early flight testing but the most beautiful point to point out about the PAK FA, is the shear amount of hurdles that russian had to climb just to get one plane flying whereas the US has flown an excess of 10 different types stealth aircraft and counting
@TheHelder1976 the stealth plane is PAKFA, in this video they talk su-35 and mig 35, which are 4++ generation fighters. im russian and i can understand this
The time frame that the PAK FA is currently in, is what US was at in mid 1990's. I'm not an engineer but I do research my comments.Russia is at least a good decade behind US. We have already produced 180+ F-22s. It even got cancelled because it had not clear current threat in fighter warfare. Everyone is considerably behind. We are a little farther ahead on our second 5th gen jet compared to T-50. I do admit that Russia will increase military funding and should speed up the process but still..
Indeed: this video is about the T50 PAK-FA, Russia's new 5th gen fighter, currently in the last stage of development. Unfortunately for all of us, even the frame and form of the craft are classified top-secret info, so we don't get to see it, yet. But, we do get a close look of the new Su-35BM, upgrade of the Su-37, being tested on this vid.
@MixedMartialArtsGCF you're right on the fact that "speed doesn't matter". In manned planes planes anyway. We've already reached the limit of human capacity. The F-22 can go much faster than it already could, it's toned down so the pilot doesn't DIE. During Vietnam we though dog fights where over, it would all be missile guided. That turned out to be a total disaster... Our "advanced" f-4 phantoms were top of the line but gets shot down by migs which on paper should be compared to a bug.
Yes in non-biased exercises(Northern Edge 2004) the USAF simulated SU-30 capabilities with F-15C and F-18E(Super Hornet) against frontline F-15 squadrons and posted a 2-1 edge over the SU-30..A far cry from the 9-1 ratios posted in India..Technology has caught up with our F-15 and F-16 Cold Warriors.. It's obvious.. but a 9-1 Sukhoi advantage is just plain B/S.. The F-16 is back in production with substantial upgrades..
The program does not even have a completed airframe yet. First flight dates has been delayed numerous times, I believe that the latest word from Sukhoi is Jan/Feb 2010, and they admit that even if this happens, the plane might spend 5-10 years in development before it's actually ready for combat.
compared to contemprary Sukhois, The E model is a strike fighter with making it heavier than it's predecessors without significant improvements to the airframe itself.
US is developing new scramjet missle technology. A B-52 can carry a number of scramjet cruise missles at mach 6.5 they can carry conventional or nuclear warheads and pinpoint hit a target 1500 miles away from a single B-52 or B-1 and 2.
The PAK FA is having its maiden flight sometime this year, if it works out good it will join the Russian Air Force in 2012. Then we can really see if it can stand up to the F-22.
Современное Российское вооружение пользуется заслуженным уважением во всём мире. Но как россияне могут смотреть на такие репортажи с чувством гордости державу, мне не совсем понятно. Это как в Советские времена люди гордились космической программой, а туалетной бумаги и зубной пасты в магазинах не было. Где российское автомобилестроение? Где российские компьютеры и мобильники? Качественная одежда? Гражданское авиастроение? Качественные автострады? Зато новенькие истребители! Какой класс!!! :)
@NJRocks281 "Yes, those are rivets but they dont protrude and are embedded in the skin of the aircraft. If you look closer, the F-35 has rivets too. Those rivets will be covered and being painted over with RAM coatings."
Its an SU-27/35 I think. A far cry from an F-14 my good man. It was Russia's answer to the F-15E Eagle and the FA 18(A-D) hornet. One of the best Russian fighters to date. Putting an F-14 against this plane is almost suicidal.
It's intersting that you state the upgrades on the F-15s was decided after the Games, there must have been something interesting in the results that hastenend this decision?
@TeslaGenius interesting vid indeed and shows 1 argument i have with people who talk about the f-22 having 70,000lb thrust. its a heavy bird especially combat ready so its needed. combat ready the thrust/weight ratio is nothing out the ordinary, pretty much the standard 1:1 ratio. its a big bird and needs alot of fuel onboard for missions as drop tanks can be used but defeat the stealth purpose. its a big heavy bird and 70k lb thrust is needed.
Su35 and PAKFA project shows the direction of research. If you do not realize that intelligent plane is next step to unmanned, self-dependent jet-fighter, capable to perform tasks with minimal intervention of human. This is it. Stealth, Supersonic cruise, ultra-maneuverability are useless if a pilot can not withstand high G.
A lot of other factors are taken into consideration when designing a combat aircraft. Mission, range, payload, etc. The Russians make good planes and we make really good planes in America. At the end of the day it is human ingenuity that fascinates me. That's why I became and engineer! and as far as which plane is better, I can't say, because haven't seen any performance data on the T50. I can surely say the F-22 is one hell of a machine. Besides, the hardware is only as good as the driver.
I like how a video of aircraft always seems to manifest GREAT HISTORIANS. Look at these guys down below posting gibberish that has nothing to do with this video. Awesome Aircraft no doubt about it! Just wish there was a translated version somewhere.
Indeed the AIM54C is a formidable weapon, but coming from that range it cant be that hard to dodge, or deploy some kind of counter measures or jamming, as it is a radar guided missile.
It would be very nice to see the T-50 fly, and to get a friendly version of the US-Russia rivalry of the Cold War. The technology and advancement of aviation resulting from that period is astonishing, however it remains to be seen how fast Russia can recover from the break up of the USSR.
@1rich12396able The only problem is that there are radar systems that already caught up/ could detect even the best stealth systems today. Im not even sure if stealth could even be improved more. But Russia is already developing plasma technology since then, and they already figured out how to use it in terms of aerodynamics/and armor other than stealth.
While Russians definitely do lag the Americans in some technical areas, they excel in others. Comparing Russian aircraft to American models are like comparing a F1 car to NASCAR. They are meant for different purposes. Apples and oranges. American aircraft are long range, long term deployable aircraft whereas Russian aircraft are short term, short engagement intended.
Good, in 2015-2017, (and before if we can sell Jas NG to India and brazil) we have already getting our first Jas 39 gripen NG. Both plane are between 4,5 and 5th generation. I´m not worried, because Russia have only economy for 100 to 200 T-50
Very noticeable that T-50 resembled slightly to YF22's topview and closely the sideview or profile of YF23. Only we don't know yet its real or actual capability.
@2205Razors , acutally no, the US had developed helmet mounted sighted weapons , the AIM-82 and AIM-95 in the 70s but cancelled them not knowing the USSR had proceeded and field the R-73, so when the F-16s got their butts kicked and the reasons for why were know, all that happened was the AIM-82/95 worked was dusted off and intergated into the AIM-9X
I was checking some websites about the cold war and it seems that whenever the US came up with something, a fast bomber or so, the Russians gave a fitting reply. In quite a few cases, they actually outdid the west. The only field where they lag behind is electronics, but they're closing the gap. Many westerners would perhaps not like my statement, but the fact is Russians are masters in designing aircrafts. Their planes seem to outmaneuver laws of aerodynamics! :-) cheers
I think that as well, ok the Sukhois are great, but MIG was, is and probably will be for a very long time, a very respectfull name in the jet fighters world...
I just discovered the test flight footage.
Blown away. Amazing, beautiful aircraft.
Меня всегда удивляла и восхищала гениальность Российских учёных, создающих такое вооружение, которое не имеет аналогов в мире. Для этих людей НЕТ конкурентов. А летчики, это АСЫ с большой буквы. Я горжусь тем, что живу в России !!!
i like how they put the f-22 and MIG together, make it look badass
the best military of the best and Im glad we are brothers with you привет из Болгарий руский братушки С НАМИ БОГ !!!
Good video and the interviews, thanks for posting!
То Браћо Руси!!! Поздрав из Србије
Слава Руском оружију!
having known a USMC chopper veteran, i distinctly remember when he told me that only about 4 in 10 pilots serving a 100 mission tour were going to make it home, and that the average lifespan in mission flight hours of a chopper pilot was roughly 30 minutes.
Ever since the Mig-29 first entered service, I fell in love with Russian fighters. They are beautiful, they perform extremely well and in my opinion Russian fighter planes clearly outperform anything with wings. Even the expensive F-22 Raptor. Good job Russia.!!
Хороший ролик,приятно видеть как работают ,создают чудесную технику.
Amazing how much this looks like an F15 Eagle. That pilot at 4:00 is a badass!
Wars are won not planes, wars are won warriors. In the world there were many wars, the majesty of each nation is written on the world map ...
I really love Sukhoi's designs. They are so beautiful. :)
The technology is called thrust vectoring. The exhaust of the aircraft is channeled in different directions to help the aircraft maneuver better.
Inherently, most combat aircraft are aerodynamically unstable. indeed this allows it to perform high G maneuvers. Good structural design is important to keep the plane in one piece while doing so.
Nevertheless, aircrafts remain in level flight most of their service life so it must also be able to perform well under these conditions. math=power.
English subtitles would be much appreciated! PAK-FA is a beautiful fighter jet :)
@zibbaen Also, the 22 can be armed as a stike fighter, just as the 15 and 14 were. The 35 is a small plane, some of which can hover, meant for close-in ground support. It comes in hot and heavy, lays a beat down, and bugs of. The 22 is a MASSIVE airplane, it engages targets from the horizon line and remains in the area indefinitely providing strike, overwatch, recon, support, and defense. That's the difference.
I live in the city where T-50 is building. It's a really stealth 5th generation aircraft - nobody has seen it yet. )
I wish I could speak Russian. I would love to know more about the T-50 it looks awesome. Hats off to the Ruskies.
"специальная краска сделает его невидимым" - улыбнуло : )))
am no engineer... but enjoyed your discussion, ty
... am from India...
Great video!
Russian jets are phenomenal machines.
Russia rocks.. love russia forever.
From an Indian.
excellent video and interview from brazil.
I like his vintage helmet, must somehow interface with his vintage cockpit.
I Love Russian Air Force But The Egyptians Are The Best And The Bravest Fighters Of All Times God I love My Country
@ImDimon
As far as I remember the F-15 Eagle was made as a counter to the hyped projections of the MiG-25 (NATO-codename Foxbat). The MiG-25 as allegedly a super-fast (mach 3 or something), super-maneuverable, super-fighter with BVR-capabilities (It turned out to be a mach 2.83 interceptor with the same turning abilities as a truck doing 180 km/h on ice). The F-15 was made as a pure turn-and-burn fighter with BVR-capabilities.
the su 47 is a beast :)
A few years ago they retired the f-117, that thing is ancient history!
Beautiful plane!
simply, PERFECT!!!!!
@zibbaen wikipedia . org/wiki/Air_superiority_fighter ... wikipedia . org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter_Program. An ASF is meant to enter airspace and completely cripple all counter offensive flights. A JSF is meant to enter airspace for striking/support purposes, perhaps lingering to provide overwatch and troop cover. We use harriers/hornets in the mountains of Afghanistan, or in Iraq. We use ASF primarily for escorts, and for invasion purpose (the "no fly" in Iraq was patrolled by ASFs)
man i love watching the sukhoi -27
Do not be afraid, we are with you
wow! Thanks a lot dude.
Russian Aircraft are pretty impressive Aircraft. I love the Sukoi-35 and The Mig-29 Falacrum. Im an american I still love my F-15E,F-16Flacons,F/A-18 SuperHornets!.
Nice point
Any fight its a good fight, thanks!
No problem happy to do my share.
I wasn't making fun of you. You're a funny guy.
I did the same for you...with the exception that on this one I hit thumbs sown on accident....By the way, I really like the fact that you are open minded and can have an exchange of words with out getting all crazy like some others here.
This is the great fighter of the world. I think this the world fastest fighter.
Test pilot says you have to pet your aircraft and give him a friendly clap (without gloves even if its cold) because it likes it ;)
also interesting was a comment by the old guy who talked about their AI and automation of all kinds of maneuvers - starting from takeoff and landings to combat and missile evasion programs to help the pilot - also some safety measures where board computer doesn't comply with attempted maneuvers that would make the jet crash like the one shown in the vid.
lol,
"we thought the plane to think" awesome!
yeah.. an example is the MiG-35, and the upcoming T50/PAK-FA..
looking forward to see both of them in the IAF in near future... :-)
SUPERB WELL DONE!!!
lets see the F-22 and T-50 are both evenly matched so it really comes down to the pilot and the US spends about 2 million training one pilot ( so with that to go on I think we have a bit of a edge, but great machine any ways - best regards from the US
@rolandmik I completely agree, such beautiful planes.
so the T-50 (PAK FA) is flying after about 3 yr delay , not the fact its techincally nearly 30 yrs behind the USAF ATF , and point out that PAK FA is a in early flight testing
but the most beautiful point to point out about the PAK FA, is the shear amount of hurdles that russian had to climb just to get one plane flying whereas the US has flown an excess of 10 different types stealth aircraft and counting
@TheHelder1976 the stealth plane is PAKFA, in this video they talk su-35 and mig 35, which are 4++ generation fighters. im russian and i can understand this
beautiful airplane!!
A training dog fight would be bad ass....I'd like to get a vip invite to that.
The time frame that the PAK FA is currently in, is what US was at in mid 1990's. I'm not an engineer but I do research my comments.Russia is at least a good decade behind US. We have already produced 180+ F-22s. It even got cancelled because it had not clear current threat in fighter warfare. Everyone is considerably behind. We are a little farther ahead on our second 5th gen jet compared to T-50. I do admit that Russia will increase military funding and should speed up the process but still..
Indeed: this video is about the T50 PAK-FA, Russia's new 5th gen fighter, currently in the last stage of development. Unfortunately for all of us, even the frame and form of the craft are classified top-secret info, so we don't get to see it, yet.
But, we do get a close look of the new Su-35BM, upgrade of the Su-37, being tested on this vid.
@MixedMartialArtsGCF you're right on the fact that "speed doesn't matter". In manned planes planes anyway. We've already reached the limit of human capacity. The F-22 can go much faster than it already could, it's toned down so the pilot doesn't DIE. During Vietnam we though dog fights where over, it would all be missile guided. That turned out to be a total disaster...
Our "advanced" f-4 phantoms were top of the line but gets shot down by migs which on paper should be compared to a bug.
If you have the money, you can practically start anything you like
over 50 until 2015 !!! wooohhoo!
Yes in non-biased exercises(Northern Edge 2004) the USAF simulated SU-30 capabilities with F-15C and F-18E(Super Hornet) against frontline F-15 squadrons and posted a 2-1 edge over the SU-30..A far cry from the 9-1 ratios posted in India..Technology has caught up with our F-15 and F-16 Cold Warriors.. It's obvious.. but a 9-1 Sukhoi advantage is just plain B/S.. The F-16 is back in production with substantial upgrades..
both SU and Migs RULE! :))))
The program does not even have a completed airframe yet. First flight dates has been delayed numerous times, I believe that the latest word from Sukhoi is Jan/Feb 2010, and they admit that even if this happens, the plane might spend 5-10 years in development before it's actually ready for combat.
+1!
(for that last sentence)
compared to contemprary Sukhois,
The E model is a strike fighter with making it heavier than it's predecessors without significant improvements to the airframe itself.
US is developing new scramjet missle technology. A B-52 can carry a number of scramjet cruise missles at mach 6.5 they can carry conventional or nuclear warheads and pinpoint hit a target 1500 miles away from a single B-52 or B-1 and 2.
The PAK FA is having its maiden flight sometime this year, if it works out good it will join the Russian Air Force in 2012. Then we can really see if it can stand up to the F-22.
Современное Российское вооружение пользуется заслуженным уважением во всём мире. Но как россияне могут смотреть на такие репортажи с чувством гордости державу, мне не совсем понятно. Это как в Советские времена люди гордились космической программой, а туалетной бумаги и зубной пасты в магазинах не было. Где российское автомобилестроение? Где российские компьютеры и мобильники? Качественная одежда? Гражданское авиастроение? Качественные автострады? Зато новенькие истребители! Какой класс!!! :)
Very well said! :)
is this the new SU-27 cool love those jets
@NJRocks281 "Yes, those are rivets but they dont protrude and are embedded in the skin of the aircraft. If you look closer, the F-35 has rivets too. Those rivets will be covered and being painted over with RAM coatings."
@Axemantitan
those are flaps, used at low air speeds..
most commercial airlines have them too.
@mattmatt115 true but the Irbis E and Epolet A still have a shorter detection range than the AIM-120
great.we are on business again.
@PsyLiq I agree also. I also think they have some of the best pilots too.
Its an SU-27/35 I think. A far cry from an F-14 my good man. It was Russia's answer to the F-15E Eagle and the FA 18(A-D) hornet. One of the best Russian fighters to date. Putting an F-14 against this plane is almost suicidal.
would be nice to hear or see a transalation..
It's intersting that you state the upgrades on the F-15s was decided after the Games, there must have been something interesting in the results that hastenend this decision?
Impressive
and russians go go go this video is really cool ....engineers and so on..good quality products
@TeslaGenius
interesting vid indeed and shows 1 argument i have with people who talk about the f-22 having 70,000lb thrust. its a heavy bird especially combat ready so its needed. combat ready the thrust/weight ratio is nothing out the ordinary, pretty much the standard 1:1 ratio. its a big bird and needs alot of fuel onboard for missions as drop tanks can be used but defeat the stealth purpose. its a big heavy bird and 70k lb thrust is needed.
Su35 and PAKFA project shows the direction of research. If you do not realize that intelligent plane is next step to unmanned, self-dependent jet-fighter, capable to perform tasks with minimal intervention of human. This is it. Stealth, Supersonic cruise, ultra-maneuverability are useless if a pilot can not withstand high G.
3:50 I was like "Oh gosh look at that maneuverability! ..NO wait..boom!"
That´s a song of a distant future and there hasn´t been any update about it in a years.
you started it =)
strange numbers indeed, i gotta more agree with what don says in being sceptical over those numbers there
Agreed.
GO RUSSIA, best wishes from Bangladesh
A lot of other factors are taken into consideration when designing a combat aircraft. Mission, range, payload, etc.
The Russians make good planes and we make really good planes in America.
At the end of the day it is human ingenuity that fascinates me. That's why I became and engineer!
and as far as which plane is better, I can't say, because haven't seen any performance data on the T50. I can surely say the F-22 is one hell of a machine.
Besides, the hardware is only as good as the driver.
It's a wonder how many experts there are on youtube...
I like how a video of aircraft always seems to manifest GREAT HISTORIANS. Look at these guys down below posting gibberish that has nothing to do with this video.
Awesome Aircraft no doubt about it! Just wish there was a translated version somewhere.
yeah.. but where did the idea come from??
Indeed the AIM54C is a formidable weapon, but coming from that range it cant be that hard to dodge, or deploy some kind of counter measures or jamming, as it is a radar guided missile.
SUPER ROSSIA 4 EVER !!!...
BRAVO,BRAVO.BRAVO !!!...
It would be very nice to see the T-50 fly, and to get a friendly version of the US-Russia rivalry of the Cold War. The technology and advancement of aviation resulting from that period is astonishing, however it remains to be seen how fast Russia can recover from the break up of the USSR.
@1rich12396able The only problem is that there are radar systems that already caught up/ could detect even the best stealth systems today. Im not even sure if stealth could even be improved more. But Russia is already developing plasma technology since then, and they already figured out how to use it in terms of aerodynamics/and armor other than stealth.
While Russians definitely do lag the Americans in some technical areas, they excel in others.
Comparing Russian aircraft to American models are like comparing a F1 car to NASCAR. They are meant for different purposes. Apples and oranges.
American aircraft are long range, long term deployable aircraft whereas Russian aircraft are short term, short engagement intended.
Good, in 2015-2017, (and before if we can sell Jas NG to India and brazil) we have already getting our first Jas 39 gripen NG. Both plane are between 4,5 and 5th generation. I´m not worried, because Russia have only economy for 100 to 200 T-50
super avion!!
Very noticeable that T-50 resembled slightly to YF22's topview and closely the sideview or profile of YF23. Only we don't know yet its real or actual capability.
@2205Razors , acutally no, the US had developed helmet mounted sighted weapons , the AIM-82 and AIM-95 in the 70s but cancelled them not knowing the USSR had proceeded and field the R-73, so when the F-16s got their butts kicked and the reasons for why were know, all that happened was the AIM-82/95 worked was dusted off and intergated into the AIM-9X
Looks like it is not just meant to compete with the f-22, but is actually based on it.
I was checking some websites about the cold war and it seems that whenever the US came up with something, a fast bomber or so, the Russians gave a fitting reply. In quite a few cases, they actually outdid the west.
The only field where they lag behind is electronics, but they're closing the gap.
Many westerners would perhaps not like my statement, but the fact is Russians are masters in designing aircrafts. Their planes seem to outmaneuver laws of aerodynamics! :-)
cheers
Сербия...Россия...братья по крови...навеки...
I think that as well, ok the Sukhois are great, but MIG was, is and probably will be for a very long time, a very respectfull name in the jet fighters world...
Рассмешил меня, молодец!!
You funny :)
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