@@GlucksGym I'm not sure if you have made a video on the chest supported pad attachment yet, but I would love to see it. Been looking at ways to do chest supported rows at home.
I chose Rogue as I also had both. TBH either would have sufficed, especially now with all the cable options REP offers. Both also have trade offs (Rogue a bit wide to squat, REP a bit narrow to bench). All in all, it's great to have the options we have.
Rep. Only thing Rogue has going for it is that it’s American made but with the ares, Athena and selectorized lat low row they’re blowing Rogue out the water.
Im curious what happens if China decides to arm Russia, sanctions aside, will US companies feel pressure to drop China altogether? Cant imagine it’s a decision most companies want to make but we live in strange times. Rep is def out innovating Rogue lately but it’s rather easy to get stuff from Rogue. During my purchase last year I ended up going with Rogue simply because I could not complete my build the way I wanted with Rep. Sure it’s better now, but even their new benches they unveiled you cant even get them till Mid May at the earliest.
Everyone needs a 3x3. The flexibility with accessories and thus the available exercises makes it great and they don’t cost that much more. I’ve had Rogue in the past on smaller racks but went Rep this time because Rogue apparently can’t design a simple lat pull-down like Rep. I absolutely love my PR5000 and don’t regret it one bit.
REP PR 5000 squad checking in. Love it besides the nameplate on my 80 inch version smoking the back of my bald head after reracking a squat. Great video y’all!
Seems like Rogue has a $75 flat fee for shipping on racks and any accessories you order at same time. Not sure if that existed a year ago but current as of Oct 2024.
There is also the location to factor in. If near either facility you can save big bucks by picking up. Rep 10-15% or avoid rogue shipping fees. That's what swayed me to rep initially.
Great comparison. I think this will be an even tighter race when you have BOS releasing their Manticore 1" line. It will no longer be a toss up between cheaper metric or expensive true 3x3 1" attachments. A very clever move, and I wonder if they'll push more US based companies to switch from metric to imperial.
Rogue. The 90" was just right for my space and the Gun Metal color is exactly me. I wish some of the attachments were a bit cheaper, but...gotta stay in business, I guess. I do like the cable options REP is putting out. Wish Rogue would do the same, but, I'm figuring I'd have to take a second mortgage to pay for it.
The fact Rogue has yet to build/release a simple plate loaded lat pull down for the Monster is crazy to me... the slinger is garbage, they know it's garbage, and they haven't corrected it. I upgraded to REP for this reason alone.
I was going to say Gluck seems to be slowly going insane over time but I think it's more accurate to say that he has been on the fringe of insanity for a long time now.
Holy Crap!!!! Literally reading my mind as I was looking between Rep and Rogue today. I got another 1k towards my rack to spend…..so looking to pull the trigger.
I’m gonna be purchasing the PR-4000 soon main reason I’m going with rep is the 80” total height I only have 82” total height in my basement all of rogues are 90” tall if I’m not mistaken
You are correct though you could look at our Hydra rack review. They've got a 72 and 80" option and it's basically a clone of a Monster Lite. Either way you've got some great options.
I’ve been waiting for this exact review! Still leaning more towards Rep. You mentioned the PR4000 having updated hole spacing, can you talk more about that? I’ve seen pictures of both and was just super confused on how people had racks with so many holes and westside. Thanks Gluck!
Rep recently switched the PR 4000 to have hole spacing that is the same as the 5000 (or Rogue Monster, etc), meaning every 2" up the side of the rack vs the old system where it was ever 6". So you can now get westside and the equal hole spacing. There are still other differences between the racks and attachments though. For example the leg rollers on a 5/8" require a mount /brace and the Ares on the 4000 has the adjustment pin in the back. The list goes on but most differences are fairly subtle between Reps options.
Good god that’s a huge change in my opinion! Good to know I wasn’t imagining things. Thanks for sharing so we can all eventually have excessively versatile power racks forever!
We all need a 3x3 rack, so we can squat 1500 pounds. Seriously, I sold my Rogue RML-690C to get a Rep Fitness PR5000/Ares. I have the Rogue monster land mine and monolifts on my PR5000.
Can I get your opinion on rogue monster light RML5 vs rogue monster RM5 (rm-6 with 30” extensions). I like the look and build the monster series but won’t get west side spacing. Thoughts on what people prefer for a home gym.
I read down the first 20 comments or so and Every single one of them said they are going or have gone with REP. Bottom line is Rogue simply charges entirely too much money for their stuff and REP offers fair pricing for their stuff. If the loyal Rogue supporters ever decided they were gonna stop overpaying for home gym equipment just to have a "R" on it then Rogue would have to get their pricing in line with the market or get out of the home gym business and work commercial setttings like Sorinex does.
There is also the US made angle. Rogue has higher manufacturing costs because they make the stuff in the uS. Rep is cheaper because the stuff is made in in the PRC.
I have the Sorinex base camp power rack that i found used. Killer deal. The ecosystem does matter- the rep j cups work on the Sorinex but you can tell the difference sticking with a companies ecosystem. I prefer Sorinex as it was the authentic original 😊
@@GlucksGym I would need lower for things like chin ups and other various attachments. Thats the only thing holding the bf back from getting a standard rack. He has one of those two post types that have an attached bench right now hes found off marketplace.
Narrow as in front to back, or narrow as in the width between left and right uprights? Rep width spec between left and right shows 50.9, Rogue shows 49. I'm assuming that you guys mean depth? Rogue Monster FT-3 is 36". Rep comes in 30" and 41" deep.
I wanted to like that rack, but the weight storage is limited when working inside the rack. The previous version (versa rack xl) was a better design overall. Have you checked out either rouge or Bells of Steel? The rouge monster light or the Bells of steel Hydra have folding (wall mounted) racks that allow you to lift inside the racks.
I have a Rep PR 4000, I’m old it going outlive me easily! Lol I have it setup to fit my needs, I even have a few Rogue accessories. Waiting for Rep to come out with a V2 belt squat.
Hello Gluck. Nice review. One question, what is the hook-like hanger attachment you are using to hang your REP cambered bar on your REP rack? Could you please share the link to it? Thanks.
Respectfully it's real comforting when you squat 600lbs in a 3x3 vs a 2x3, or loading up a 18" deadlift pull will 800lbs on the 3x3, or pin presses for overhead work 325+ So 3x3 is needed when you're moving stupid amounts, yes I do all these weights religiously I post videos on ig, fb, tiktok under the same name. REP ALL THE WAY!!
I’m currently shopping for a rack and I’m all in for the quality of Rogue. I’m even willing to pay the extra price. But I gotta say that the Ares is tempting. How long before Rogue comes out with their answer to the Ares\Athena??
I'm not sure I see them making one based on what they've come out with in the next few years. I could be wrong as they've stepped it up a little lately but they don't seem as interested in the home gym consumer as Rep
It's nice to have. I enjoyed it but I guess it's one of those things that you can get over or you might never realize you want or liked if you haven't tried it.
I went 4000, because there are hardly any attachments (that I've seen) that don't support 5/8" hardware. I recently saw a Titan leg extension/curl attachment that was 1" only , but I think even that I could make work with 5/8" hardware.
There are others where the 5/8 version's mount is larger/bulkier. Leg rollers for example. With Rep there aren't a lot of examples where 1" and 5/8" aren't as well supported but with Rogue there are and with third party attachments as well.
Thanks for all the video reviews! Since you have both REP and ROGUE racks..I was hoping you could answer a question. Do you think its possible to connect a 4 post 90 inch Rogue Monster with two 80 inch PR 5000 posts with crossmembers that connect it into a 6 post configuration and then adding a REP selectorized lat pulldown in an 80 inch configuration. An additional crossmember would come below the Rogue top crossmember to support the overhead selectorized attachment and a rear base stabilizer at the bottom.
Hey Gluck, you mentioned rep is working on a modular storage system. Do you mean their current "MSS" or something else? I've been wondering if they'd come out with something similar to what Rogue does where there are storage components that integrate directly into their existing modular rack systems, rather than stand alone.
I hope REP manages to establish their business in Europe this year. I would love to buy equipment from REP here in Europe. Rogue has a European distributor.
I want to go rep but am nervous about the more narrow rack. I currently have rogue and sue to shoulder issues on squat I grip the bar at the edge of the inside of the rack.
@@GlucksGymyeah I saw illuminati iron just sold his full Sorinex XL set up for a 16-30 Pr5000 with the ares for smaller footprint with more functionality
@@GlucksGym honestly, No. but as their attachments improve I could see it more and more. He did say he ordered some custom attachments. I wonder if he went with surplus strength attachments?
I have to go with REP I might be wrong but I think REP is equal in quality to Rogue. Yeah Rogue has a few more bells and whistles on some items but across the board, I believe they are equal. The only difference to me is Rogue's prices are 15%-30% higher than REP's
I'd still give Rogue the nod in quality overall. Rep has come a long way and their new attachments are much improved (Ares for example) but things like J cups, pull-up bars, etc Rogue has a lead on. I do think in a few years Rep will be even closer though.
@@GlucksGym I'm going with what U say, U know better than me on such matters but man it's hard for me to tell a difference taking in consideration I have only compared a few items. I still like REP better because Rogue IMO, price gouges. When I see a price tag to my door of over $4,000 for a lat pulldown/low row, well does it sing or dance. It's not the money, it's the principle. Rogue gouges the public because they know people want that "R" on their equipment and to me that's wrong and anyway, I can get BOS's for half that and it's sharp too. Heck U can buy an entire cable selectorized system from REP (Ares, Athena) for less than Rogue charges for a lat pulldown. U got to admit that is crazy!! Take Care, Man
I'll see a lot of Rep's new stuff at the Arnold (and we'll make a video) so I think that gap is closing and going to close even more still. In a year this might be a completely different conversation. I think the quality we get from Rep is perfectly fine for 99.9% of people and Rogue pushes into that commercial quality at times but I agree, it can come with a heavy price tag.
It's not a discount code, Rep doesn't give those. It's just a link that gives us credit for your purchase. You can find our general Rep link on our website or in the videos description.
The only reason I chose Rep is the rack width. I had a 49" wide rack for a while and got rid of it. While the width was an annoyance when it came to un-racking and re-racking a squat, the biggest issue was hitting the safeties when doing a heavy squat. This was even further compounded when I used my Transformer bar.
@@GlucksGym thanks! I have a rogue SML-2 monster lite squat stand. It’s 3x3 with 5/8” holes but I know there’s some weirdness between brands. Would that product fit on my squat stand? And if so please send me your affiliate link so I can purchase it :)
I recently got the PR-4000, and looking forward to getting the Athena soon. I like REP's swagger and their speed in bringing new products to market. Do you know of anyone that has a captain's chair attachment that would fit a PR-4000?
I'd give then nod to REP. More innovation, and it looks like the few 'higher quality' items rogue has like j cups and safeties... Rep is updating this year. Not much left and more options and savings.
Their innovation and expansion in the last year or so (and it looks like this year as well) is what pushes me in their direction. I'm not sure I'm ready to concede the quality argument quite yet but we'll see how this new batch of updates goes.
The PR-4000 adding equally spaced holes on the sides of the uprights is a welcome recent addition but they'll all have the same amount of 2" spaced holes on the sides. There are other touches and differences between the lines but I think the 4000 is an exceptional rack and shouldn't be overlooked.
@@GlucksGym yeap. I will take the 4000 over the 5000. When you want precision, the westside holes are a not brainer. Cant get that with the 5000. Also attachments, prices are cheaper for the 4000.
I have a 15 year old Powertec Rack and bench. I have been tempted to replace it with Rogue several times, but then again...why should I? I can do everything I want to do with my old rack, so it's essentially just about wanting to buy new stuff instead of training hard(er). Nobody really "needs" a 3x3 Rack...for what? A 200lbs benchpress or 300lbs squat, of course with calibrated, camouflaged plates and heavy duty J-cups? That's somehow ridiculous. Focus on training, guys, not on knurling, uprights-diameter or 9657 unneccessary accessoires. Money can't buy muscles, so can't uprights.
Ok. I have been thinking about this. Tell me if I’m crazy. I want to build a REP monster cave. So this is my plan. Buy a 30 inch PR5000 and a 16inch storage plus 16 inch rack with dual Athena. So what I would do is connect the 30 inch rack to half of the 16/16 rack with Athena on each side. (I would use 30’ Rogue crossmembers so I would be able to use the storage option rogue has, and as you mentioned the crossmember length varied slightly between the brands). Is this crazy? What do you think?
Thoughts on the Fringe Garage Gym Squat Cage, currently 45% off? 16 gauge, 2x2. New-ish lifter, trying to find intersection of quality, price, good enough and my space limitations (height).
I just wish the bigger companies would get over the eco system stuff. Like I’m not gona buy a whole new rack even though I really want the integrated parts the Athena and Aries offer when I have a rogue already and vice versa I think they both have great products and the attachments vary from one to the other but I think Frankensteining a mix from different gives the consumer best bang for buck or just do what Gluck said and buy both 😂😂😂
Why do so many people especially men(suck ups) feel the need to impower women while degrading themselves and men or just feel the need to joke around with all the typical bullshit that people have been saying or doing for so long now! Dont keep asking that question your going to get me in trouble! All this typical shit is so old!
Rep is Colorado!?! They lost me for the fact they trying to take Trump off of the ballot. Which is taken all or Freedom of Choice on who we want to or not want to vote for. It should be our choice only.
ROGUE customer service and their handling times are fucking garbage. REP had the PR5000 shipped out, warrantied the pull up bar and had the replacement show up on my doorstep before ROGUE had even had the order processed. 2 weeks passed and all ROGUE could offer me was "Your order has been processed and is in que, you will receive an email from our shipping department when it leaves." It sucked because ROGUE was the only place that sold the Concept2 RowErg at a decent price but they can pound sand I'll pay $500 more and get it right from the manufacturer. Awful customer service deserves to be the end of a company. REP every single time guys, every single damn time.
If you had to choose, Rogue or Rep?
Rep because 47" wide
Rep
BOS Hydra. No question. Same product, 1/2 the price. Can use almost any Rogue ML or REP PR4000 attachments
I just purchased a PR 5000 with the Ares attachment ($$$). This was primarily due to the functionality of the Ares.
Rep 47" width and 80" height for the basement.
This is truly a struggle for guys like myself. I want to support US made but also want a realistic cable system...
Do I plan on buying more gym equipment? nope.
Do I plan on upgrading? Nope.
Do I still watch the video to support Gluck? Yup.
You say that now but I'll break your spirits 😂 just happy for the support. Thank you!
@@GlucksGym I'm not sure if you have made a video on the chest supported pad attachment yet, but I would love to see it. Been looking at ways to do chest supported rows at home.
@@satinderjit4 it's in another video coming up soon but not a dedicated full video
I chose Rogue as I also had both. TBH either would have sufficed, especially now with all the cable options REP offers. Both also have trade offs (Rogue a bit wide to squat, REP a bit narrow to bench). All in all, it's great to have the options we have.
Here for the innuendoes!! I mean, gym equipment reviews!!! 😂😂
He's Hilarious 😂
Happy to hear it, not everyone enjoys my personality😬
Rep. Only thing Rogue has going for it is that it’s American made but with the ares, Athena and selectorized lat low row they’re blowing Rogue out the water.
I agree with U 100% man. Rogue just price gouges the public and it has costs them millions now since REP turned it on!!!!
Im curious what happens if China decides to arm Russia, sanctions aside, will US companies feel pressure to drop China altogether? Cant imagine it’s a decision most companies want to make but we live in strange times. Rep is def out innovating Rogue lately but it’s rather easy to get stuff from Rogue. During my purchase last year I ended up going with Rogue simply because I could not complete my build the way I wanted with Rep. Sure it’s better now, but even their new benches they unveiled you cant even get them till Mid May at the earliest.
@@Blahmanwhysoserious If China ever start to arm Russia or attack Taiwan, you can bet that steel won't be used for making squats racks anymore.
Everyone needs a 3x3. The flexibility with accessories and thus the available exercises makes it great and they don’t cost that much more. I’ve had Rogue in the past on smaller racks but went Rep this time because Rogue apparently can’t design a simple lat pull-down like Rep. I absolutely love my PR5000 and don’t regret it one bit.
Can you install the REP lat pulldown on the Rogue RM-6? Or does it have to be the Rep Rack
@@lukepowell7623 no because the width and height are different.
@@lukepowell7623A bit late, but you can install the Hydra Bells of Steel lat pull down on the Monster Lite.
REP PR 5000 squad checking in. Love it besides the nameplate on my 80 inch version smoking the back of my bald head after reracking a squat. Great video y’all!
I recently removed the name plates and swapped to the new compact crossmembers. I like the aesthetic a lot more.
Rogue and REP rack prices seem close at face value but once you figure shipping the Rogue cost hundreds more while REP is free shipping.
Seems like Rogue has a $75 flat fee for shipping on racks and any accessories you order at same time. Not sure if that existed a year ago but current as of Oct 2024.
There is also the location to factor in. If near either facility you can save big bucks by picking up. Rep 10-15% or avoid rogue shipping fees. That's what swayed me to rep initially.
ROGUE ships things? I gave up after 2 weeks handling time.
Great comparison. I think this will be an even tighter race when you have BOS releasing their Manticore 1" line. It will no longer be a toss up between cheaper metric or expensive true 3x3 1" attachments. A very clever move, and I wonder if they'll push more US based companies to switch from metric to imperial.
Nobody wants the POS line of racks
Glad you mentioned Rogue's taller uprights.
Rogue. The 90" was just right for my space and the Gun Metal color is exactly me. I wish some of the attachments were a bit cheaper, but...gotta stay in business, I guess. I do like the cable options REP is putting out. Wish Rogue would do the same, but, I'm figuring I'd have to take a second mortgage to pay for it.
The fact Rogue has yet to build/release a simple plate loaded lat pull down for the Monster is crazy to me... the slinger is garbage, they know it's garbage, and they haven't corrected it. I upgraded to REP for this reason alone.
I'm planning on going with Rep Fitness on the next home gym build! 🤙
Ricky might is one of my subs who needs the 1,000 lbs capacity 😍
I was going to say Gluck seems to be slowly going insane over time but I think it's more accurate to say that he has been on the fringe of insanity for a long time now.
Holy Crap!!!! Literally reading my mind as I was looking between Rep and Rogue today. I got another 1k towards my rack to spend…..so looking to pull the trigger.
I am also considering the Bells of Steel Hydra. Is that something you looked at? Would be interested in your thoughts if so.
We've reviewed the Hydra as well (2 videos on it)
Both solid irons options. Feel free to reach out if you've got other questions
@@pspicer777 Bells of Steel are close to releasing their Manticore racks with 3x3 uprights with 1" holes
They're getting closer but working out some kinks. We were offered the first review unit but both sides decided it wasn't quite ready yet.
I’m gonna be purchasing the PR-4000 soon main reason I’m going with rep is the 80” total height I only have 82” total height in my basement all of rogues are 90” tall if I’m not mistaken
You are correct though you could look at our Hydra rack review. They've got a 72 and 80" option and it's basically a clone of a Monster Lite. Either way you've got some great options.
We going straight from innuendo to vg references, nice
I’ve been waiting for this exact review! Still leaning more towards Rep. You mentioned the PR4000 having updated hole spacing, can you talk more about that? I’ve seen pictures of both and was just super confused on how people had racks with so many holes and westside. Thanks Gluck!
Rep recently switched the PR 4000 to have hole spacing that is the same as the 5000 (or Rogue Monster, etc), meaning every 2" up the side of the rack vs the old system where it was ever 6". So you can now get westside and the equal hole spacing. There are still other differences between the racks and attachments though. For example the leg rollers on a 5/8" require a mount /brace and the Ares on the 4000 has the adjustment pin in the back. The list goes on but most differences are fairly subtle between Reps options.
Good god that’s a huge change in my opinion! Good to know I wasn’t imagining things. Thanks for sharing so we can all eventually have excessively versatile power racks forever!
I don’t need a 3x3 rack. I want one though haha. Great video, thanks!
Nothing wrong with that. Same thing I set with regard to a Stihl fuel injected chainsaw.
I wonder if rep is upgrading their monos. It would be nice to see people talk about those more. So many rep reviewers yet not much on the monos
I might need to get one of these for my drink spotter
I think the wise person would buy the drink spotter first, then a rack to attach to it after.
We all need a 3x3 rack, so we can squat 1500 pounds. Seriously, I sold my Rogue RML-690C to get a Rep Fitness PR5000/Ares. I have the Rogue monster land mine and monolifts on my PR5000.
Going with the REP due to their ARES attachment. Can't wait!
That one is a huge reason. We use our all the time.
I sold my Rogue rack to get the Ares.
Well. The water heater literally just went so the Ares is on hold!!!
@@cryptologic6002 😢
@@markhalstead2386 I'm in the process of doing exactly the same! Pickup is this weekend 🤞
Team REP here 🤚 But since my gym is in my basement, it kinda made the decision easy lol (low ceilings). I kinda wish I could drop in my Rhino though 😕
Curious what I would have chosen if I was shopping for a rack now vs in the middle of 2020. Oh well. Good info!
Definitely a more difficult choice now
Great vid…. Really enjoyed this one
Thank you 😁
Can I get your opinion on rogue monster light RML5 vs rogue monster RM5 (rm-6 with 30” extensions). I like the look and build the monster series but won’t get west side spacing. Thoughts on what people prefer for a home gym.
I read down the first 20 comments or so and Every single one of them said they are going or have gone with REP.
Bottom line is Rogue simply charges entirely too much money for their stuff and REP offers fair pricing for their stuff.
If the loyal Rogue supporters ever decided they were gonna stop overpaying for home gym equipment just to have a "R" on it then Rogue would have to get their pricing in line with the market or get out of the home gym business and work commercial setttings like Sorinex does.
There is also the US made angle. Rogue has higher manufacturing costs because they make the stuff in the uS. Rep is cheaper because the stuff is made in in the PRC.
I have the Sorinex base camp power rack that i found used. Killer deal. The ecosystem does matter- the rep j cups work on the Sorinex but you can tell the difference sticking with a companies ecosystem. I prefer Sorinex as it was the authentic original 😊
I wish these companies would provide quality for those of us with very low ceilings.....my basement ceiling is only 84 inches :(
Rep has an option at 80" and Bells has that as well as a lower option with their Hydra
@@GlucksGym I would need lower for things like chin ups and other various attachments. Thats the only thing holding the bf back from getting a standard rack. He has one of those two post types that have an attached bench right now hes found off marketplace.
@@JustSheilz you aren’t limited to putting the chin-up bar on the top crossmembers, you can put it on the uprights at any height
@@adambomb611 the bf is significantly taller and even if he put it waist high - he’dhave to lay in the floor face down to get the full arm movements.
Just cut the uprights! I did that with my Rogue monster.
Rep all the way!!! 😊
I always wonder if I'd like the narrower Rep rack better than my Rogue Monster rack even though I have no complaints
No. Narrow racks suck ass for benching
Narrow as in front to back, or narrow as in the width between left and right uprights? Rep width spec between left and right shows 50.9, Rogue shows 49. I'm assuming that you guys mean depth? Rogue Monster FT-3 is 36". Rep comes in 30" and 41" deep.
It would me amazing if you did a ForceUsa folding rack review! For us space deficient garage owners :)
I wanted to like that rack, but the weight storage is limited when working inside the rack. The previous version (versa rack xl) was a better design overall. Have you checked out either rouge or Bells of Steel? The rouge monster light or the Bells of steel Hydra have folding (wall mounted) racks that allow you to lift inside the racks.
What's the top mounted barbell holder you have the football bar in on your main rep rack?
The Darko Anchor gluck.fit/DarkoLifting
I have a Rep PR 4000, I’m old it going outlive me easily! Lol
I have it setup to fit my needs, I even have a few Rogue accessories. Waiting for Rep to come out with a V2 belt squat.
But the new 4000 has equal 4 way hole spacing 😈
Rep all the way on value and the Ares and Athena build on options.
Three very good reasons right there.
That joke was everything. I subscribed
I got into some trouble for that one 😢
My home gym was pretty much built by GGR, THANK YALL
I don't have laser cut height markers. I have to go by eye level, nipple height and so on.
😂 You can use magnets from Plate Snacks or a paint pen but your system seems more entertaining
Hello Gluck. Nice review. One question, what is the hook-like hanger attachment you are using to hang your REP cambered bar on your REP rack? Could you please share the link to it? Thanks.
That's the Darko Barbell anchor. No affiliation, just a cool product darkolifting.com/products/the-barbell-anchor
@@GlucksGym Thanks!
Respectfully it's real comforting when you squat 600lbs in a 3x3 vs a 2x3, or loading up a 18" deadlift pull will 800lbs on the 3x3, or pin presses for overhead work 325+
So 3x3 is needed when you're moving stupid amounts, yes I do all these weights religiously I post videos on ig, fb, tiktok under the same name.
REP ALL THE WAY!!
I’m currently shopping for a rack and I’m all in for the quality of Rogue. I’m even willing to pay the extra price. But I gotta say that the Ares is tempting. How long before Rogue comes out with their answer to the Ares\Athena??
I'm not sure I see them making one based on what they've come out with in the next few years. I could be wrong as they've stepped it up a little lately but they don't seem as interested in the home gym consumer as Rep
I'm on the fence between a rep PR4000 vs 5000. Is the westside spacing nice to have?
It's nice to have. I enjoyed it but I guess it's one of those things that you can get over or you might never realize you want or liked if you haven't tried it.
I went 4000, because there are hardly any attachments (that I've seen) that don't support 5/8" hardware.
I recently saw a Titan leg extension/curl attachment that was 1" only , but I think even that I could make work with 5/8" hardware.
There are others where the 5/8 version's mount is larger/bulkier.
Leg rollers for example. With Rep there aren't a lot of examples where 1" and 5/8" aren't as well supported but with Rogue there are and with third party attachments as well.
My hesitation with the rep was lack of attachments, but after the ares came out I didn’t give a sh\t anymore.
Thanks for all the video reviews! Since you have both REP and ROGUE racks..I was hoping you could answer a question. Do you think its possible to connect a 4 post 90 inch Rogue Monster with two 80 inch PR 5000 posts with crossmembers that connect it into a 6 post configuration and then adding a REP
selectorized lat pulldown in an 80 inch configuration. An additional crossmember would come below the Rogue top crossmember to support the overhead selectorized attachment and a rear base stabilizer at the bottom.
I would get into some home gym discords and ask there buddy
Rep just dropped several new bars too. And American made equalizer plates! They’re making big strides
We posted a reel on our IG and have already talked to them about filming all this stuff at the Arnold. Gonna be a good year 😁
@@GlucksGym nice! Looking forward to seeing your review 👌🏼
Rep no doubt, not only you save on rack, you will save way much more on attachment. but Sorinex is even better if you have more budget.
Hey Gluck, you mentioned rep is working on a modular storage system. Do you mean their current "MSS" or something else? I've been wondering if they'd come out with something similar to what Rogue does where there are storage components that integrate directly into their existing modular rack systems, rather than stand alone.
Yeah similar to what Rogue has I believe. I'll go see if I can get a peak at it when we're at the Arnold.
I hope REP manages to establish their business in Europe this year. I would love to buy equipment from REP here in Europe. Rogue has a European distributor.
Would be a very wise decision on their part. They recently got to Canada so maybe soon!
Will the rep Athena work on my rogue monster rack? I bought my rack before rep started to really become a dominant force and innovator in the market
Without modification no. There's too many differences between metric and customary measurements.
😂😂😂 classic comments and as always great info.
Thank you 😁
I want to go rep but am nervous about the more narrow rack. I currently have rogue and sue to shoulder issues on squat I grip the bar at the edge of the inside of the rack.
Love my rogue rack, but it the ares was a thing 3 years ago probably would have gotten it with a pR 5000
It's things like the Ares (or maybe entirely the Ares) that would push me to Rep now.
@@GlucksGymyeah I saw illuminati iron just sold his full Sorinex XL set up for a 16-30 Pr5000 with the ares for smaller footprint with more functionality
Crazy world we're in now. Can your imagine sometime selling their Sorinex rack for Rep a few years ago?
@@GlucksGym honestly, No. but as their attachments improve I could see it more and more. He did say he ordered some custom attachments. I wonder if he went with surplus strength attachments?
I have to go with REP
I might be wrong but I think REP is equal in quality to Rogue.
Yeah Rogue has a few more bells and whistles on some items but across the board, I believe they are equal.
The only difference to me is Rogue's prices are 15%-30% higher than REP's
I'd still give Rogue the nod in quality overall. Rep has come a long way and their new attachments are much improved (Ares for example) but things like J cups, pull-up bars, etc Rogue has a lead on. I do think in a few years Rep will be even closer though.
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I'm going with what U say, U know better than me on such matters but man it's hard for me to tell a difference taking in consideration I have only compared a few items. I still like REP better because Rogue IMO, price gouges.
When I see a price tag to my door of over $4,000 for a
lat pulldown/low row, well does it sing or dance.
It's not the money, it's the principle. Rogue gouges the public because they know people want that "R" on their equipment and to me that's wrong and anyway, I can get BOS's for half that and it's sharp too.
Heck U can buy an entire cable selectorized system from REP (Ares, Athena) for less than Rogue charges for a lat pulldown. U got to admit that is crazy!!
Take Care, Man
I'll see a lot of Rep's new stuff at the Arnold (and we'll make a video) so I think that gap is closing and going to close even more still. In a year this might be a completely different conversation. I think the quality we get from Rep is perfectly fine for 99.9% of people and Rogue pushes into that commercial quality at times but I agree, it can come with a heavy price tag.
3x3 racks is the only way to go. I’ve had monster lite and monster.
I am getting ready to purchase a REP 4000 What is your discount code ???
It's not a discount code, Rep doesn't give those. It's just a link that gives us credit for your purchase. You can find our general Rep link on our website or in the videos description.
The only reason I chose Rep is the rack width. I had a 49" wide rack for a while and got rid of it. While the width was an annoyance when it came to un-racking and re-racking a squat, the biggest issue was hitting the safeties when doing a heavy squat. This was even further compounded when I used my Transformer bar.
Narrow racks suck ass for benching
What’s that attachment for the rack-mounted chest supported barbell roses?
Sorinex bulldog pad
It's Bells of Steel Seal Row Pad for the Hydra rack. You can see it in our Hydra videos. Sorinex made the OG version but it's nearly 3x the price.
@@GlucksGym thanks!
I have a rogue SML-2 monster lite squat stand. It’s 3x3 with 5/8” holes but I know there’s some weirdness between brands.
Would that product fit on my squat stand? And if so please send me your affiliate link so I can purchase it :)
I recently got the PR-4000, and looking forward to getting the Athena soon. I like REP's swagger and their speed in bringing new products to market.
Do you know of anyone that has a captain's chair attachment that would fit a PR-4000?
I don't know that but I suppose I've never looked either. Hmmm
I'd give then nod to REP. More innovation, and it looks like the few 'higher quality' items rogue has like j cups and safeties... Rep is updating this year. Not much left and more options and savings.
Their innovation and expansion in the last year or so (and it looks like this year as well) is what pushes me in their direction. I'm not sure I'm ready to concede the quality argument quite yet but we'll see how this new batch of updates goes.
Rep for the money
Can't argue with that.
Can I have both
You can. It only cost me a small fortune 😂😢
The PR4000 with weside holes and more holes on the side of the uprights over these 5000 and monster racks. Thank me later.
The PR-4000 adding equally spaced holes on the sides of the uprights is a welcome recent addition but they'll all have the same amount of 2" spaced holes on the sides. There are other touches and differences between the lines but I think the 4000 is an exceptional rack and shouldn't be overlooked.
@@GlucksGym yeap. I will take the 4000 over the 5000. When you want precision, the westside holes are a not brainer. Cant get that with the 5000. Also attachments, prices are cheaper for the 4000.
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Glucks arms looking swole
I like this guy
How does Bells of Steel Hydra fit into this as I understand they are fully comparable with the Rogue Monster? (I may be wrong about this)
The Hydra is 3x3 with holes and hardware 5/8. It's basically a clone of the Monster Lite and uses true 3"x3" steel and customary measurements.
I have a 15 year old Powertec Rack and bench. I have been tempted to replace it with Rogue several times, but then again...why should I? I can do everything I want to do with my old rack, so it's essentially just about wanting to buy new stuff instead of training hard(er). Nobody really "needs" a 3x3 Rack...for what? A 200lbs benchpress or 300lbs squat, of course with calibrated, camouflaged plates and heavy duty J-cups? That's somehow ridiculous. Focus on training, guys, not on knurling, uprights-diameter or 9657 unneccessary accessoires. Money can't buy muscles, so can't uprights.
Ok. I have been thinking about this. Tell me if I’m crazy. I want to build a REP monster cave. So this is my plan. Buy a 30 inch PR5000 and a 16inch storage plus 16 inch rack with dual Athena. So what I would do is connect the 30 inch rack to half of the 16/16 rack with Athena on each side. (I would use 30’ Rogue crossmembers so I would be able to use the storage option rogue has, and as you mentioned the crossmember length varied slightly between the brands). Is this crazy? What do you think?
Thoughts on the Fringe Garage Gym Squat Cage, currently 45% off? 16 gauge, 2x2. New-ish lifter, trying to find intersection of quality, price, good enough and my space limitations (height).
16gauge??! Hell no that’s like sheet metal lol
I just wish the bigger companies would get over the eco system stuff. Like I’m not gona buy a whole new rack even though I really want the integrated parts the Athena and Aries offer when I have a rogue already and vice versa I think they both have great products and the attachments vary from one to the other but I think Frankensteining a mix from different gives the consumer best bang for buck or just do what Gluck said and buy both 😂😂😂
REP being made in China is the difference for me
How come
The Chinese are pretty hard workers not only that they are the new world superpower nowadays
My wife was made in China.
I have a few REP pieces and they are great. However I stopped buying China imported gym equipments because China supports Russia.
At the start of the video you said ‘both’ like a Canadian….you’ve spent too much time at Bells of Steel!
Ah crap...😂
Rep is on the rise, Rogue is in decline
I wouldn't say decline, but Rogue is definitely just standing still while REP is about to surpass them.
Of corse my 9 year old was watching THIS video with me. Solid. Maybe skip talking about everyone wanting vaginas next time lol fml thx
Hah. He said “vagina”. Subscribed
Why do so many people especially men(suck ups) feel the need to impower women while degrading themselves and men or just feel the need to joke around with all the typical bullshit that people have been saying or doing for so long now! Dont keep asking that question your going to get me in trouble! All this typical shit is so old!
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Sometimes the wrong hole, Is THE RIGHT HOLE !!!
We're all taking about power racks, right?
Rep is Colorado!?! They lost me for the fact they trying to take Trump off of the ballot. Which is taken all or Freedom of Choice on who we want to or not want to vote for. It should be our choice only.
ROGUE customer service and their handling times are fucking garbage. REP had the PR5000 shipped out, warrantied the pull up bar and had the replacement show up on my doorstep before ROGUE had even had the order processed. 2 weeks passed and all ROGUE could offer me was "Your order has been processed and is in que, you will receive an email from our shipping department when it leaves." It sucked because ROGUE was the only place that sold the Concept2 RowErg at a decent price but they can pound sand I'll pay $500 more and get it right from the manufacturer. Awful customer service deserves to be the end of a company. REP every single time guys, every single damn time.
No love for Titan 😂
I tried to limit this to the big 2 😂
the jokes are tacky imho
first
Beast mode. You've scared the others away you're so good.