Have the Next Gen Originals flopped?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Tsitsipas, Zverev, Fritz, Rublev, Tiafoe, Coric - the OG Next Gen Class were promised the earth, but haven't delivered.
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Lady chugs a pint, bring her another one.
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Great conversation. So happy this came up on my feed. There’s so many in the next generation that were all supposed to be the star. Casper Ruud also has come so close. I definitely put Medvedev at a higher level over Tsisipas and Zverev. I think the personality’s of Alcarez and Sinner give their minds an advantage. The drama and cocky egos of those other guys are catty.
Im pleased you brought up the cattiness of meddy sasha and steffani, it really has been quite childish 😂
Agreed. Zverev, Tsitsipas have huge scar tissue from their Grand Slam finals. And then Novak stuck around. Forget a slam for both of them.
Their flop is a huge reason Novak has the "slam lead"
He's not "The greatest to ever live" as many have been myopically saying the past few years - as this year has proven. You can blame injury for Wimbledon - but you can't blame that for everything: Novak lost to a teenager a year ago. Was injury an excuse then? In January he didn't win one of his favorite tournaments - Injury also not an excuse - as Sinner proved he AND Alcarez are ready to take charge.
Medvedev has already straight-setted Novak at the US Open - (Again, novak fans can't blame injury - again not an excuse for that loss to Medvedev) after he saw Sinner and Alcarez in on the fun , he showed at WImbledon that Daniil won't be taken lightly either.
Novak beat up on all these OG Next Gens who just weren't that great - and he didn't even win convincingly: He lost like 2 sets to TSisipas, 2 sets to Kyrgios.... 1 or 2 sets to berritini
That's why Novak couldn't beat roger in just about any final until 2011 when Roger was past 30.
Yes bring on the new blood. The "BIG 3" era is on its deathbed. Novak may still have a pulse - he could get lucky and pop a major or two even. But the new blood is here to stay - don't be surprised if Novak doesn't win a major again. It's not out of the question....
They were never good enough. That's why they have scar tissue. None of them really have totally complete games. They're great players, but not all time great talents
@@MrLarryLessorand yeah even with that knee injury. Novak still pretty much man handled his draw up until alcaraz. I'm not sure Medvedev even beats him on Sunday if it was him instead of alcaraz. It still takes a genuine all time great talent alcaraz to expose any deficiencies that may or may not exist for Novak right now. All the other youngins are still pretty much bowing at his feet
@@MrLarryLessorNovak?? Rafa snatched two sure shot Slams from Meddy and stamped the uprising of his would be successor Thiem thrice. Both Rafa and Novak suppressed the NextGen. But of course, Djoker fanatics can hardly see anything beyond their demi God
Certain players are just tired they’ve maxed out. Taylor keys you know what I mean, it’s becomes exhausting thinking they’re not realizing their potential, and then you realize, nor everyone is destined to wins grand slam
Zverev has won olympic gold and twice the ATP Masters, 22 atp titles....
All of those titles were best two out of three sets.
He’s also beaten his exgf to pulp across multiple continents. Worth atleast one grand slam.
Yet he can't hang in the best of 5 long enough to accrue major titles.
Also 'won' his way through multiple sexual harassment cases.
Didn't realise Woody Allen was part-timing as a tennis commentator.
Very interesting discussion and interesting takes as well. Well done on the pod cast.
Also don't forget Kyrgios he should have a slam the biggest let down from everyone.
Bro KYRGIOS backhand is absolute joke. No way that is good enough to win you a slam in big 3 era
Never won a GS semi-final or a masters title and you are talking about a slam?
I don't think Kyrgios has it in him to win a Slam. He got a bit lucky in that Wimbledon with the Nadal withdrawal.
@@precociousdeathdealer202his backhand isnt terrible. I remember thinking its the same stroke as capriati's where the left hand does not generate power. It might not be a weapon but its serviceable.
@jamesyu5212 lol you don't know tennis man. Look at berdych and tsonga who both have world class serve and forehand but weak backhand and big 3 ate the for lunch. KYRGIOS is way below tsonga and berdych
Great conversation indeed. My greatest disappointment is the decline of Félix Auger-Aliassime, who at the end of 2022 won 4 consecutive tournaments and was reaching top level. At that time nearly everyone believed he could win a Grand Slam. He desperately needs a TOP COACH and above all: a good net play & an agressive backhand. But time is running out, as he becomes 24 at the end of this month.
I don't think time is running out YET as 24 is YOUNG in tennis now a days. I do agree that he needs to DITCH his coach as he isn't helping evolve his game. The potential is still there but obviously it is up to him to realize he isn't growing as a player.
Felix is a huge disappointment he refuses to FIRE his coach. Felix is wasting time. Time is running out yes he turns 24 next month. New younger players are coming up. Felix can't think that he has time because each year it gets tougher.
@@JordanjamesX I couldn't agree more.
I’m a bit sad about tsitsipas. His game is really beautiful when it’s on song but he has been out of form for a long time now. Hope he can prove people wrong and fix that backhand
He is douchey tho
@@bp900 who cares, his game style is so watchable. Fun player
@@Paperbagman555 i guess karma cares 😉
Stefanos allows his father to control him. He is turning 26 next month time is running out.
Previous gen: Grigor, Nishikori, Cilic, Raonic, Theim
Next Gen: Zverev, Tsisipas, Rublev, Hurcacz, Ruud, Shapavalalov, FAA, Fritz
I'm sure I have missed couple of names. These two generations were subdue overpowered and run over by BIG3.
Current Gen stars Alcaraz and Sinner are a bit lucky to peak when BIG 3 are retired, injured and are on declin. But I would put these guys above previous Gen and next Gen.
Having said that I don't Alcaraz could have won against prime Nadal and Federer at French and Wimbledon respectively.
We'll never know. Carlos is amazing for his age. But each of the Big 3 had the other 2 battling them. And all 3 were all time greats playing at the same time. What I will say is that as insanely talented as Carlos is, I don't see anyone really challenging him from the current lot. It'll be like one of the Big 3 not having the other two and just running away with records. Even Sinner from what we have seen till now has quite a lot to improve if he were to beat Carlos on a regular basis. And it's insane to see Novak is still a top contender at 37. He was in the Big 3 with Fed and Nadal, then Big 2 with Nadal and now again Big 3 with Sinner and Carlos. Mind-boggling.
On clay I believe no one in history can beat prime Nadal but I think Carlos vs Roger on grass would be interesting to see
Carlos would beat Rafa on clay at least 50% of the time. He hits much bigger, has more variety skill and drop shots. And has beaten Rafa a couple of years ago. @RR_theproahole
Matt mentioned Covid and it was skimmed over re next gen. I think that was pivotal. Tsitsipas, in particular, was just coming through and Covid halted their development and ability to get that match fitness you talk about a lot. Obviously everyone went through it but the big 3 already had all that experience and great teams to back them up during covid times.
Agreed, and Alcaraz and Sinner were too young to be affected by it as much.
1 year doesn't hold back the development of a sportsperson. They're just not good enough and unfortunately sandwiched between the older Big 3 and the newer Big 3/4. Once Novak retires, it'll be Big 2 of Sinner and Carlos and next tier of Meddy and then the rest. Tsitsipas is done. Zverev has not improved his game a lot from what I have seen. It's still predominantly the same. Meddy has a lot to add to his arsenal, whether he'll be able to is the question.
@@Whatreally123 Yes, thank you. @clarebrown...sounds like some religious apologist making lame excuses for what they have no real evidence for.
You're talking like Covid was an event that hugely affected the games for years. They just weren't good enough. Simples, really.
Scar tissue is not a factor! Those players simply can’t get past Novak, Sinner, Alcaraz Medvedev. In one tournament, it’s too much for them just to get past one of those guys. Holger Rune is extremely talented he has the potential to win a slam but needs to work to get his head together a little more consistently.
I really don't see anything great from Rune. What do you see in him that's so great that makes him extremely talented? I really don't get the hype around him.
If you don’t see anything great from Rune then you don’t see anything great from him. I see potential based on watching him many times. That’s my opinion. He’s a 21 years old professional tennis player in the top 20 of world class players @ number 17 in the world coached by Patrick Mouratoglou one of the top coaches in the world. This isn’t my opinion this is a fact in comparison to what you don’t “see”. He’s won 4 titles already and is only going to get better!
@@videocat9 Yeah that's why I'm asking you. What qualities make him so special?
Rune isn't as good as he is being hyped up. I think it's more the media trying to fill the 3rd spot so they can inundate us with the new version of the Big 3.
@@amsd1231 I didn’t say he had qualities that made him so special, you mentioned that. I said to get to where he presently is he is extremely talented, his ranking and who he has beaten prove it. If you have evidence to the contrary please share it.
Zverev has played his best French Open this year and his best Wimbledon, he overcame the no Top 10 player stigma there in the last couple of years and he's the most consistent of the lot apart from Daniil. He's still number three in the race and the highest ranked player without a Majors title. He might indeed not win a Slam but to say he's not consistently performing at the top of the sport is ludicrous also.
V much agree. Zverev going well this year
When did they say that? He's been consistenly a top 10-15 player in general. Though he was no great shakes in 2022 or '23. But still, what ppl really remember is how you performed in majors.
@@jefftravis3808 my point is this. There's really no reason to compare Zverev to the others (apart from Medvedev who has the distinction that he captured the number one the same year Zverev would've had a chance to capture it, had he not gotten injured.) Tsitsipas, Fritz and the others are simply nowwhere near there.
Zverev has the most titles from Next Gen, he's been the most consistent, he's beaten Alcaraz at Grand Slam level twice (as recently as this year's AO). And I find it bizarre that due to the fixation on the majors his distant advantage over these guys is often overlooked. Let's also not forget he has the best h2h against Alcaraz and Sinner of the lot, as well as against the big 3.
Carlos and sinner are definitely better than the original nextgen.
But the scare tissue isnt as much in them, because big 3 constantly thumped their confidence which sinner and alcaraz have been lucky to have not gone up against the old or retired big 3. Imagine novak being 37 and still dominating everybody last year. And he may very well have 1 oreven 2 slams in him.
LOVE this convo! feels like Katherine can speak her honest opinion more than she could on broadcast tv and prime 🙌 love it
Great discussion, but don’t forget Thiem. He won a Slam and was part of the next gen.
'A slam', not multiple majors; not even a real force in Masters tournaments. He was supposedly the next great clay player. But nope.
@@jefftravis3808If not for Nadal he would have multiple FOs in any era. He was brilliant on clay. Just a testament to Nadal's greatness.
I still remember in 2017-18 where the general consensus was the next level of tennis star will be 6.4-6.6 feet with long reach and serve
All of them have gone
Jannik is 6.4
@@jamesyu5212 he's listed at 6'2"
@@jamesyu5212 6'2
@@jamesyu5212 Jannik is just another Medvedev.
gone? where?
Medvedev has been very good. Zverev may end up with a slam. But the others have all flopped.
@@AlexJaneson knock it off russian bot
@@Alex_Rome I mean he's right? Medvedev has a slam and countless masters as well as 20 titles total? A great career
V much agree. Danny is absolutely classic. Zverev is close right now.
I think Thiem would've won more slams if he didn't basically have a career ending when he did. He was 26, starting his prime. The new gen is Alcaraz and Skinner. Those other guys are done. The rest might get scraps if these 2 and joker don't win it
I think they're all good players I think some may be even great but none of them are true champions.
I think it was unrealistic to think that this generation was going to replace the big three.
She didn't mention Dominic who had to retire I really thought he was going to be the next big thing but an injury took him out.
Before this year people said Carlos Alcaraz was washed up that he would never win another Grand slam.
You never know?
Lots of firm predictions. Anything is possible in any tournament.
who is the lady on the left? she seems very astute
She has extremely strong right wing views and if anyone tries to argue with her - wham bang. She will happily go on Women's Hour and misquote everyone in sight to prove her point.
@@sportslover2356 lol, well she seems very astute concerning tennis in this one video then
Lol first words and all wrong, the original next gen was Dimitrov, Paire, Raonic, Janowicz, Tomic, Gulbis.
You are wrong I'm afraid. 'Next Gen' wasn't a thing then. They are talking about when the year end 'Next Gen' finals, and the year long Next Gen race started, which was 2017. That's when the term 'Next Gen' started.
@@MarcoSpeaksNadsat Look at l'equipe projected atp ranking from 2013 for 2018. It's already been a thing.
Alcaraz and Sinner have pushed past Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas and Rublev. Alcaraz and Sinner have won 79% and 75% of their matches respectively. Others in the old Next Gen haven’t. Big 3 won 82% of their matches.
Good discussion. Glad someone talking about this. The entitlement of the young men born in late 1990s. Zverev has no humility like Frances Tiafoe no class.Taylor is 0-4 in slam quarterfinals. Taylor Fritz blew it but Lorenzo Musetti is younger and more talented. Taylor Fritz is too one dimensional he is like Andrey Rublev. Fritz unfortunately doesn't come to net, doesn't slice, doesn't play with variation.The mental side of Zverev, Stefanos. Yes only Medvedev won a major. I think the media hype got to next generation head. Zverev, Tsistipas all have weaknesses. Sinner and Alcaraz are just better. Zverev I am not convinced he is lacking something. He blew it in the RG final it two sets up.
The simple hard fact is most of the professionals as good as they are on the tour will not win a grand slam in their careers.
Is 'winning a slam' the only measurement of success? How about being one of the best 100 or 200 players in the world at any one moment? Translate that to basket ball, soccer, golf...and the guys she is writing off as has-beens and no-hopers are absolutely staggeringly brilliant. Perhaps all the no-hopers above the top ten should leave the tour and allow the top 8 to tour the world, playing each other for your enjoyment???
When Chung is mentioned, my heart became sore 😢
Great discussion/ podcast!
Danny Med has already had a fantastic career, unlucky not to have more slams and may yet win a few more in NY/Melbourne. Proper warrior and a seriously entertaining character whose interviews are always interesting.
Still plenty of time for Zverev if he keeps up last six months, he is close right now.
Tsitsipas has gone a bit walkabout recently. Feel like maybe having a time out mid career.
Interesting to see what happens in NY. Alcaraz has lost in last two hard court slams to Zverev and Medvedev. Zverev took down Sinner in NY and Medvedev v almost beat Sinner in Melbourne final (lost perhaps partly because he was knackered from 5 sets with Zverev in the semis…in what was one of the best matches this year).
I love the shorter versions 😊😊
If alcaraz is 29 he'd far outperform all nextgen
He's already outperformed them
Zverev ,is surely an official choker , Medvedev ,good ,but not as good as HE seems to think he is and Tsisipas is too lazy . Point ? They may grab one or two ,but they dont have the commitment . Not as good as Sinner or Alcaraz. Not even close.
Who are these three sitting and randomly passing judgement?
One is Woody Allen I think
(faking a Brit accent).
they think they know it all. Have never played against any of the great players - or any players. Couch potatoes. Putting down some of the greatest players over the last ten years.
this debate = highlight of my day. thank u guys❤
Other than Carlos I would say most all have flopped. Sinner just won a Grand Slam but based on the French Open and this Wimbledon and his previous Slam losses its hard to say he is the real deal..he may be number one but like Carlos that might not last long…and Medvedev did win a major but also can’t make it past the finish line in Slams…forget the others they consistently underperform
Perhaps we should just have the top eight players in the world going around playing each other for your enjoyment? All the other failures should be got rid of. What desperate fun!!
This generation are........
Q: what ARE England?
A: it ARE a country. Brexit english!
So all of those commentators and analysts who called Federer's prime The weak era should have their feet in their mouths because that's exactly what's happening here.
Tsitsipas never recovered form his loss to Stan at French Open 2019. He has never quiet been the same.
Same is the case in Athletics.. Mathew Bolling and Aby Steiner...
at the end, David Law adds, "and Arthur Fils" and rightly so.
Fils just downed the Roland Garros finalist Zverev is the latter's hometown in a grinding 3-hour plus match, after beating Djere, then Baez, then Rune - all gifted on clay - just to get to the finals!
Old nole or semi retired rafa or retired roger made the ascend of carlos and sinner to the top easier compared to original next gen. Scar tissue of the tough losses would have more likely delayed the ascension or even, completelt take the confidence away.
That era from 2008 - 2016 was scary tough. 2017 - 2021 still had roger and rafa for 2 years. Novak and rafa till 2022. Novak only in 2023.
I kind of doubt that Sinner would have been worse if he had come up in that era, because so far every time he loses he's more motivated to improve and it's the same with Carlos.
Alcaraz and Sinner eagerly grow their skills. If they came up earlier, they would have taken the tour away from the Big 3 and given us some of the most epic matches along the way. Instead, we got served NextGen weak sauce for half a decade.
No, Alcaraz immediately started contending for Slams and destroyed Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev kind of players. He was much better than them even at 20.
Fried air in pressured pan.
Carlos has already tied Murray in Grand Slams.
This is imo too harsh and critical of the zverev medvedev thiem de minaur rublev gen : i think your worda are in a way disrespectful to their efforts and their achievements.
thanks for that. Disprespect is a trademark of these guys. To totally write off as has-beens and useless second-rate citizens/athletes is utterly pointless. Imagine them saying that about anyone higher than the top ten in world soccer, world basketball, world golf!!!
To me everything boils down to one thing: people are so used to GOAT era they see anything not that as a disappointment. People are desperate to witness greatness they’ll anoint anyone. It’s a by-product of 24 hr commentary.
I think Medvedev is the only serious player. Theim was too just unlucky with injuries. Also i had a feeling Sasha might win a grand slam one day. The rest garbage.
Throw out the garbage. Don't allow anyone to play who is not on your list. Sounds like a great tour. What fun. These are the best 100 players of a sport in the world. In the world. Let that hit home?
"This generation have......"
Q: what ARE a generation?
A: it ARE a group. Brexit english!
You forgot FAA :)
Alcaraz and Sinner are into the stratosphere compared to the next gen players. We should be thankful to have those two coming up right on time to entertain us for the next decade, just after the end of the big 3 era
Katherine should let people finish their sentences and points more before she keeps interrupting 😓
Before them were other brilliant 'never won a slam' players. Monfils, Tsonga, Dmitrov, straddled with Kyrgios, Tomic (two junior slams) and so many other absolutely wonderful players who just kept playing and, as Kyrgios said, 'I thought that ship had sailed'. Covid actually took out three years of their playing lives. They held up the other end of the courts in every spectacular match. They got stone-walled by the boring big three in every slam, rarely losing to anyone at a lower rank. Do you really believe they were not a part of the conversation? Kyrgios was part of the conversation for so many years, constantly seriously injured, constantly called out as if he was tanking, faking, but playing with pain because he thought that's what you do, finally unable to walk or hold a racquet. What did you do to those guys?
Andy Murray was never any 4th. He was not on the Big 3 level. Occasional flickers of Andy that's all
The x factor that set the top 3 apart from the og next gen always was going to be mental stamina and the aptitude levels to get through to big finals and win slams. Tsitsipas, Rublev, Zverev and Kyrgios among others have way too many psychological issues and personal baggage that has affected the confidence and focus of ever standing a real chance of challenging for slams. Sinner and Alcaraz have displayed a Novak and Rafa like mental toughness which is setting them apart in leaps and bounds and are filling the void that the top 3 have left.
Setting aside their slam count, look at their inability to compete on multiple surfaces compared to Alcaraz and Sinner! For example, none of them have been able to play on grass and you can't blame the big 3 for that because they lose to EVERYONE at Wimbledon. They really have a lack of consistency when it comes to all four slams specifically.
Their lack of mental fortitude has also been dissapointing to watch. Carlitos lost to Novak in the FO semi's last year and bounced back a month later to beat him at wimbledon, contrast that to Tsitsipas who still hasnt gotten over his 2021 final loss level wise. So yes you could argue that the original next gen had slightly higher competition, but ive brought up just two examples off the top of my head as to why i also think that they are weaker players compared to the new next gen. Theres plenty more examples out there.
Kyrgios is great on grass but injuries have stymied him. His country always mocked him for 'fake' injuries so he kept playing through the pain and aggravating it instead of resting - Now he can scarcely lift a racquet. This lot hate him most of all for being a failure.
I agree 100 percent
Even now Novak is a top contender. And Carlos is clearly the best now and Sinner a very close second behind Carlos. Once Novak retires, its a very easy road for Carlos and Sinner. Only Meddy can pose a challenge some days.
The Big 3 had Murray and Wawrinka around as well. Carlos and Sinner have, at the moment not a lot of competition. Imo if Carlos can keep himself injury free, he can go on to break all records easily unless someone really good comes along.
Matt is razor sharp with his analysis, but he looks like he should be wearing a propeller hat on his head! 🤓
I agree with most of what you said. The only player tht will be better than the big three is Alcaraz. He has everything that makes a #1 player & imprtantly the mental attitude. The curent generation i.e. zverev, tstsipas etc have the talent but not the mental aspects of the game & they are at their peak now. Alcaraz & other upcoming young players i.e. Rune will be better thn they are now. He is still young mentally, Rune and needs to grow up.
Yes.
Yup. They have flopped. It all comes down to belief period! Some of them have outstanding talent and should be winning slams but they just can’t cross the finish line…how manyntimes have we seen the Next Gen up two sets to love in a semifinal or a final of a slam only to lose to a top player..thats all belief its not physical!
Sack the lot. Anyone not in the top 20 for more than two weeks should be put out to grass. Only the most 'exciting' players as judged by this lot should be allowed to remain on tour. Everyone else is a failure. Yes???
Zverev is good enough to win Slams. He has the game but his dogshit mentality will ensure he wouldn't win Slams. Biggest choker in Tennis.
Fritz & Tiafoe have been HUGE disappointments. They showed promise early but they’ve both peaked at this point and will now start falling down the rankings.
Mean folk. Is it the Dutch Courage talking?
I think you all are extremely disrespectful even asking this question.
who the heck are these three people?? Should we know who they are and why we should care about their opinion?
I think one is called Woody Allen
(faking a Brit accent).
@@chrismuzgehehe. I’ve seen three of these now and I’m only halfway down the comments section. How many more will there be he wonders while bored in bed on his phone.
Novak has been king of the weak era.
pandemic generation and big 3 stayed long
Bro I’m next forget these guys
You seem to be oblivious of Thiem.
Thiem IS not a Next gen
Yes they flopped big time the next Gen originals
Harsh.
Big 4 is really not fair to wawrinka or del potro, lets be honest its big 3
I mean Stan reached 9 gran slam semi finals Murray reached 21. Murray won 2 gold medals at the Olympics and reached world number 1. Not to mention Murray won 14 master 1000 titles, Stan won 1. He was on a higher level I feel
To be fair Murray was in the Big 4 prior to 2017, and he was competitive with the other 3, but then his injury issues kept him from being competitive, and it became the Big 3.
@@jackwightman3783Andy Murray oniy got 3 slams at end of career slams matter more.
@@jackwightman3783spot on sir
Thiem
It’s very nasty of you of doing this podcast show some respect for these players and stop diminishing them constantly.
Nasty is what they do. They criticise and condemn any player who is not their idol. Mockery and put downs of some of the finest players in the world who have given great service to tennis with their exciting and wonderful game. Add Kyrgios to same generation who is now so seriously injured he has to deal with the grief of not being able to hold a racquet for a year.
Andy won 3/11 slam finals he and Meddy are on the same level in my opinion ,it was easier to get a bad performance out of Novak back then when Andy beat him .
Agreed
Andy has 2 more slams, 8 more masters, and 2 olympic golds back to back. He also had his peak in 2016 and his prime was the same 2011-2016 period that Novak completely dominated
@@abirdatemycactus459 I think Meddy as the same amount of titles as Andy except the Olympics which I don't think Meddy cares about because of being Russian.
@@trishennaidoo1309 andy has double his titles + 6 more
@@trishennaidoo1309 The Olympics has always been very important in Russia since they joined the IOC after World War II.
And if it were Alcaraz and Sinner playing before Zverev, Tsitsipas and Medvedev with the big 3, you guys would have been talking about them instead being 'flopped'. Also if Alcaraz or Sinner was to play in his first ever grand slam final against a big 3 guy, trust me, they would not have won. No, just no. They would be petrified, they would have zero support from the crowd, and they would have had the same troubles. Tsitsipas was very close, but only Medvedev was able to get the job done and frankly it cost him his best peak form. Alcaraz played his first final against a very unstable Ruud, already hyped up before by the media, and Sinner played an overplayed tired Medvedev and also having generated nedia hype before that. The gen you talk about had none of that. Yes, they had buzz but come on, you being media yourself, kept on hyping up only the slams race between the big 3, giving us, the audience "oh, their time will come". And it just couldn't. And then you found a new upcoming star, right at the time when Fed retired, Nadal is ill and misses most tournaments, Novak having issues with being able to play. Had Novak been allowed to play US in 2022, Alcaraz would not have been the winner.
Absolutely false. Alcaraz coming up earlier would’ve stopped the Big 3 slam titles much earlier.
@@jon-quijano Absolutely true. The current 'geniuses' have only ever played the big three post-prime. Of course it's easy for them to look brilliant.
They don’t have the confidence or the belief like a Roger Federer thats why they flopped. I was a Rafa fan but admired Rogers arrogance..that he could win anything..that belief is what the Next Gen doesn’t have..Carlos is good but not great he wins one tournament then can bow out for the next six months…Roger never did that
Roger has confidence to win not arrogance.
I think it is MORE than just confidence. The young guys born in late 1990s all lack something in their games.
Carlos just won French Open and Wimbledon back to back
That 2023 Cincy final against Novak created a dent in Carlos confidence, but he has regained it
@@bezeokeke4229 Alcaraz didn't win a tournament from Wimbledon on 16th July 2023 to Indian Wells 17th March 2024 so he bowed out for exactly 8 months. OP is correct.
Big 3, not Big 4.
Who is this woman? No way she ever was a high level player, talking like that. Such disrespect and ignorance.
By your logic only Billionaires can criticise other billionaires
What a weird thing to say
@alburaq3290 it is you who have no logic here. She is talking like many so-called analysts who are bad amateurs at best, constantly thinking the talented world number 4 or 15 who never won a slam or only won one simply did not try hard enough. It is such a stupid, disrespectful and presumptuous take. At that level most try as hard as they can! But guess what if 100 people give all they can as hard as possible, there will still be the few more gifted ones who do better. Very ignorant. Criticism is always possible, a poor person can criticize a billionaire too, but maybe not give him acquisition advice and precise criticism about his last business merger...
@@JulienGaudfroy Your point was she's not an elite player so she cannot criticise elite players. That's a stupid argument.
If we follow your logic then you can't ctiticise Trump because you aren't a successful politician. That's a dumb argument.
@alburaq3290 a little simple-minded are we? In logic there are nuances my friend, not all either black or white🤣
@@JulienGaudfroy You got triggered by a woman criticising your favourite players lol.
Did you get your precious feelings hurt?
Fritz & Tiafoe have been HUGE disappointments. They showed promise early but they’ve both peaked at this point and will now start falling down the rankings.
Okay - let's eliminate every male player who doesn't fulfil the promise he showed in Junior slams. Luke Saville won three. Who you say?