This Pro Got Banned Mid-Match For Cheating
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
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It’s happened again - a pro player banned mid-match at LAN, for cheating. This time, it’s Call of Duty Challengers.
And after initial laughs about how it was probably a mistake, it turned out that yeah - Activision reportedly said he was cheating. He’s been kicked, and the rest of his roster caught a disqualification, too.
So how much was competitive integrity affected? And why did it take this long to catch it?
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"We all make mistakes in the heat of passion Jimbo" - Hugh Neutron
omg this is the best comment lmfao I literally had this quote in my head before looking at the comment section and here it is
damn i guess he was very passionate
Lmao, just what I thought
623rd like, I have marked my place in history.
That's a top tier comment right there xD
I feel bad for his teammates, assuming they didn’t know about it. Got dragged into his bs and got punished for it :/
Optic India all over again
@@killerbas40 well in the case of optic India forsaken, its not just the team that got shafted, the whole region got fucked and India CSGO scene died because of it 😵
@@Hillowone man took down the whole region? That’s impressive
@@mushy5518 thank god!
Thankfully they're all respected players and their reputation won't be poorly affected
6:47 A common thread among cheaters is a sense of entitlement. The sentiment goes sort of like "I'm good and therefore I deserve to win, but these minor mistakes or this flaw in the game design are holding me back so I'll just adjust the game a little bit to fix that and ensure the chips fall where they should"
This mentality is extremely common among speedrunning cheaters.Take a look at any of those expose videos and you'll find that pretty quick.
Yeah, Karl Jobst's expose videos usually say exactly that. Most of the times a major cheating scandal happens, is when an already top level player cheats, because they're tired of grinding and feel like their skill is not being properly rewarded. And because an outsider with little knowledge and skill on a game is usually caught pretty easily, thus it don't become a scandal. A highly skilled player, though, knows exactly how to do it without getting caught
but I deserve to win cuz im good
Dream in a nutshell
There aint no one more self entitled than him
There's a few differences between speedrunning and live-game cheaters, because a speedrunner could be a demonstrably high-skilled player who submits a spliced WR run, while a live-match cheater is seeking an advantage beyond their actual skill level.
That's why you hear a lot of speedrun cheaters claim they "really got the record" but didn't capture it for whatever reason (the recording software wasn't on, power went out, their dog ate their hard drive, etc, etc), so they cheated a run to submit to the leaderboard _to get the recognition they feel entitled to..._ even highly-skilled players can fall prey to the idea of cheating after endless grind & bad RNG.
With live matches, the whole point of cheating is to enhance your skills beyond their natural levels to outperform your opponent... so the entitlement generally comes without investing the hard work & grind into becoming as highly skilled as they _think_ they are. They _feel entitled to take an unfair advantage over other players_ in order to win.
you either let other better players overtake you or see yourself become the cheater
Sucks for Boston Academy who played Jimbo’s team and if Boston won they would’ve qualified for the last tournament of the season
Boston Academy didn’t even play vs Jimbos team in the Qualifier 😂😂 it would’ve been vivid team who qualified not Boston 😂
@@b3to653 They played them in a Challengers cup and if they won they would’ve had enough points to qualify for champs. Doug said this on the flank during Cod champs.
@@davidibalio7217 maybe Doug should’ve performed at LCQ…
@@davidibalio7217 It should be reverted, then..
Activision on the side: Looks like you're going to the Shadow Realm, Jimbo
5:40 **"Jimbo has been removed from Orbit."**
Damn they booted his ass into space that quick?
They move fast
Thanks, Elon.
The people who are good at the game are the hardest cheaters to spot.
I remember karl jobst said top players cheat because they think they deserve the outcome. Makes enough sense to me. See cheaters beat you, know youre better, cheat cos you think you deserve it. Doesnt make it right and deserves the ban
bro. fucking this. i remember watching a cs:go youtube video. dude was like "the enemy team was cheating" so i figured he was spectating. NOPE. it was a match of all global elites. literally 10 globals.... and about 8 rounds in he's like "they are fucking cheating, ill fix that" and then pulls up his cheat window, and he toggles his own fucking cheats. i shit you not. "i only have them to counter cheaters" that's bullshit. the only reason that faggot was global elite was because he was cheating. cheated his way to global and then turned them off as if that means somethin. and then turns them on when someone is better than him and/or possibly cheating.
as a current DMG rank and past global elite before cheaters took over the top tier, I played vs a team where the top 3 started cheating after second half. we were stomping them so hard, then out of nowhere they got nothing but headshots, always knew where you were, became gods out of nowhere. while before they were fucking clueless. the funny part was, even with cheating they could only tie. pathetic. the moment they toggled I started having my team push together instead of splitting up. 5 man rush to site no mid pick bullshit no split site bullshit. usually i will do multiple zone picks to throw the enemy team off. like 2b 3mid or 3b 2a rushes. but now we did 5 man rushes. a cheater can't kill all 5 on a rush. so we still killed the loser. of course the whole time he's bragging how skilled he is and how bad we are. blah blah blah. talking shit because of his tiny ego.
should just get Karl Jorbst in to guest for these kinds of things by now
People say CS has hella cheaters. Its nothing compared to Tarkov or CoD.
The problem with every one of these games is stopping the closet / micro cheaters who act legit and fly under the radar
He’s far from the only one, looks like bans are going to start coming fast now
who seriously cheats in an esport tournament?? if you lose, you lose, if you win, you win. hacking and/or cheating literally does you nothing aside from a quick end to your career.
Cheaters never prosper.
You hyped for the new avatar game?
@@ZimbabweanBugbite Nah, gonna be half baked at release
@@ZimbabweanBugbitemost likely gonna be ass cus no game isn't ass on release in the twenty first century
@@neshired6796 but if the end product is as advertised would you still buy it?
@@clasheliteofficial but what if the end product is good? Would you still buy?
It's kind of a weird question
why do you always face a card to the came like how you did it at 0:30
I noticed it multiple times and i'm really curious why you do that
is it for lens calibration ?
No such thing as competitive integrity in challengers. He's not the only one who is hacking down in the pit
Fax. Anyone who thinks the cod pros are just good are trippin. Id even argue 50% of pros have or still use cheats, they aren’t all that much better than the average player
this. cheating is so much more widespread. statistically we could apply said statistics of one game to another. cs:go when it originally ran their vac-net AI anticheat privately for 6 months in "wingman" lobbies, they concluded that their AI was 90% accurate in catching cheaters, and 60% of the kids the bot watched were proven to be cheating.... 60 fucking percent. with 300k players that's statistically 180,000 cheaters.... that's way too many cheaters. turn around and apply 60% statistic to the pro league, and you start to realize how bad it is in the modern age.
@@pantherplat3763 none of the cdl pros are cheating but as a challengers player myself it's really bad down there. Pros are making too much money to cheat in the league. But challengers is the wild west guys will do ANYTHING to get top 32🤣🤣☠️
@@WeavyCS the only reason I say that they are cheating or have used cheats is because activision really does not care, neither does cdl. Ik challengers be wild af tho, I gave up playin cod when I started hitting cheater lobbies. I’m usually the type to think “nah they just better” but nahhh these mofos be on some shit
@@pantherplat3763 yeah I feel you bro it's rough being in challengers let alone playing pubs. Mw2 ranked is a shit show too my top 250 games were a hacker literally every other game and most of the time more than one in a lobby😭😭 if your not a challengers player looking for a shot in the league there's no reason to play as much as I hate to say it. You'd be amazed to see some of the gremlins in challengers bro these guys have no shame it's sad tbh
How great some of the players play I am not surprised. Some things I have seen is nearly if not impossible. Some stuff is faster then the human eye can even see.
That "Burn my dread" poster in the background, that card in the intro. I see that you are men of culture as well
There have always been competitors at the top of their game who decide to cheat, for all sorts of reasons... the ones with the ego to actually decry cheating publicly are usually the entitled ones, who think they deserve the results while ignoring the obvious fact that they are only achieving those results _because_ of their cheats. And unlike cheating in pre-recorded runs like speedrunning, when you cheat in _live matches_ it's plainly obvious that your true skill level isn't as high as your cheated play or the cheats would be pointless... it's sad because it's the height of self-delusion.
Saddest part is that some if not most of the top players are cheating in some form. Soft walls (I’ve seen people who mod their controller to rumble when a player is nearby for warzone), soft aim (aim assist higher than normal), aim assist on mnk (this is just sad), it’s normal now for you to cheat to become pro. Pros in most games aren’t that good, they just have a fan base so teams hire them on to make more money and get more publicity.
@@pantherplat3763 Which is all the more reason to only have money involved in gaming at LAN events, where everyone uses provided hardware to guarantee there isn't any cheat software installed on it. Anything online should strictly be for qualification purposes.
@@hhaste eh, i think being able to use your own keyboard and mouse shouldn’t be too much to ask. And even at LAN events there’s cheating, too many scandals in games like cs and league at LAN events with provided pc’s. If teams would be penalized instead of just the player, such as fining any player on stage at the time of play on the cheaters team. It’s sad that it’s come to that tho
Just let everyone cheat and see who comes out on top. Humans are going to human and taking shortcuts is human nature.
Imo alot of these top dudes cheat, especially the streamers. It's well known in the stream circle they all cheat and keep it hush hush. It's pretty screwed up.
The only solid pro I like is shotzzy he wins due to his movement not from locking on people or shooting at walls.
But I still belive almost all streamers have cheated in one way shape or form.
Activision ban wave 1500 accounts... Valve ban wave 400000 accounts
Watched this happen while in line to win a LAT rally towel 💀💀💀
Bro ran out the venue so fast
Poor GRVTY he’s a great dude and he’s mad talented. Sucks to see this happen to him
The Paris Legion curse lives on (even if they're in Vegas now).
4:17 I mean aiming with a mouse is pretty gud my dude
Though I get his point
You could be hella insane with KBM but thing is in a game like cod where the controller aim assist is so fucking good there isn't a point in using a KBM for cod
competitive has no platform for KBM
Dang Jimbo got banished to shadow realm.
I still remember getting banned on a Beta I never played and never owned, BO2 beta was available back then on one Sunday for people to try, I installed and immediately after entering the TD I was banned for life, on a game that wasn't even released yet and was only available on that one Sunday before the game released, so no possible hack could have been available for anyone yet so I just gave up on COD after that thinking it was some kind of joke. total run time in the beta was less than 3mins.
"Dude just wait wait waaait it'll be funny!"
"Dude, just start the vac ban check before the tournament"
"Duuuuuude just waitwaitwaitwaaaait"
- Middle of a tournament -
"NOW!"
- Valve's VAC service, apparently.
the natty or not starts to appear on gaming online , no more gods... just human with chetos
what does land match mean.... i dont watch competitive so can someone explain please
imagine if they actually banned csgo pros for cheating, the whole scene would die
Bro how many times do you need to show that card?
Did emilio just get VAC banned?
Jimbo has to get a real job now 😂
youtube is such a broken mess. I open the description and it says this is how to basics channel. then i look at the category AND IT THINKS THIS IS LEAUGE OF LEGENDS WHAT IS THIS
to clairify it shows YOUR description explains your video but then it shows a completely different channel at the bottom of the description
Jimbo was in the CDL on Paris legion
Sad that we just crowned the World Champs for COD and all the media we get is on a challengers player who cheated. COD is like the 5th most watched esport or something but doesn't get nearly as much coverage as Val cs dota or lol.
I miss console cod. The comp scene was thriving :(. Only the 48 players in the pro league should be on PC
It sucks for his team mates that have to get dragged through this.
Jimbo dropping off the map is unsurprising, and I just hope he's taking some time to think about the ramifications of what he's done, and hopefully, he comes out with a genuine apology.
A genuine apology for being caught, probably. If he were remorseful at all he wouldn't have cheated in the first place
"Hey, uh, yeah i cheated, muh bad"
Nah son, apologies are temporary
Cheating is Eternal
Well, more shit removed from the playing field. No big loss.
I always thought Jimbo looked sus. His face was enough.
The craziest thing about jimbo is he had real talent, he was good for paris legion when they got to Lan. But his lan/online splits were so obvious he was cheating this year. Two years ago he also got banned for threatening to shoot someone in the head
Haggy or Parasite teamed with him and said he’ll go crazy during the online tournaments but disappear when it came to the pan tournaments
@@davidibalio7217 this year 100%
According to a big time streamer they said when a player is playing at home on his own personal account with his own pc, other accounts that they may or may not cheat on will be detected at lan events due to the cheating software ware will somehow identify if u have cheated at home or not on any of ur devices somehow idk if it's TRUE or not but at that event you just showed that is what happened
Invasion of privacy sounds illegal
Oh wow a whole 1.5k bans out of the 100k+ that play wow so happy they got em all!!!! That's less than 1% of hackers banned and it's not even like it's in one game it's two making it even less than the 1% before of hackers banned. What a joke. If you're a team member and wasn't in on it sue the shit out of that guy for taking that away from you.
no clip of him getting banned? nise
I actually watched jimbos cod debut. Definitely did not belong there. The casters and pros said it themselves. His game sense is no where near pro level. Crazy that he actually cheated his way into pro league
all cheaters have no game sense. in this other discord i was banned from (owner got triggered by my bitching that he sucks at gaming) we played a ton of 10 man cs:go matches. this one kid just felt off. i couldn't put my finger on it. about a year later he invites me to play, his rank is much lower than it had been. and while playing the match, mere seconds after the round started, hes looking back at our own spawn site, afraid the enemy is coming from behind. not enough time had even passed for them to get there that fast. he was so clueless and trash. how could he go from absolute god tier in 10 mans to absolutely clueless. i knew the answer. and i kicked him off my friends list immediately after. sadly, once a cheater always a cheater. they never quit for good, they always hop back on the bandwagon when they can.
There needs to way to ban those who are hacking right away and not Week/Months after the fact, this shit sucks that players who put real hours get shit vs Those who Hack and claim they are pros
depending on the method of cheating and the method of cheat detection, it may take time to make sure there aren't too many false positives.
Should be charged for fraud, cheating out so many people in multiple tourney’s. Deserves all money gained from tournaments to be taken from him.
we need more cod videos
this is a certified emilio moment
Well that wasn't surprising. Most CoD Warzone "Pros" (streamers) are actually using third party hacks/cheats/scripts. Its so blatant and its not fun playing warzone anymore.
i quit playing cod after the skin controversy. but right before that it was so clear how many people were cheating. aimlock center mass and it never lets go. clearly robotic locking as in computer aided aim. they dont even hide it. and activision doesn't really give a shit. ban one pro that was cheating, makes people think they are actually banning people when they aren't.
@@goblinphreak2132 that is just the implemented aim assist that is in the game for everyone to use on a controller, you're so out of the loop if you didn't know this. It is easy to engage too.
Thanks josh bury
People start using PEDs mid career in American Sports all the time. Mostly older guys trying to keep up with new players but same idea its not unheard of.
Thought it was Kqly
Only 1500? They missed the other 20k
Show the clip
Who knows if he was actively cheating while competing against other players or only at home. He could have gotten like skins or camos and activision detected it but I highly doubt it
Kid probably scared of his own shadow 😂
ive used cheats before and one thing for sure i learned it killed my gaming passion for a long time i had to heal from that addiction of buying cheats and kill people without any feeling of fun, dont use cheats men they will kill your passion for gaming.
they need the false high from the win. nothing feels better than smashing the enemy team with your own skill. its a stronger high. sadly cheaters will never understand that. as you stated, you felt empty. because it wasn't you winning. it was the cheat. id say i feel bad for you, but ive never cheated, people make choices and live with them.
true bro, thats spot on.
Show us the clip
Does this mean that JIMBO was FORSAKEN by his team?
The dreaded Word.exe rears its head again.
For my short look at the ricochet page it's possible that he got banned for habitual teaming with a cheater or hardware bypass either way the lack of transparency is going to be a problem
not knowing your friend cheats is not a ban-able offense. it never has been.
Imagine cheating like Yugi Muto.
People are crazy hypocritical and I was ‘more sure’ he was a cheater after you reviewed his tweets. People think they are shifting blame when they speak out against something they are secretly doing because who would so loudly proclaim against something and then do it themselves? So many examples of people busted, with paper trails, that I’m at the point that if your overly passionate or annoyingly adamant about something, I’m going to assume that whatever that thing is, your doing it.
Yeah I didn't know ow this guy even before this happened
JoeWo: How many cod streamers do you think are cheating? sHeeeRoooooo.
What’s with the tarot?
This is why I’m not taking esports seriously until AI anti-cheat is established amongst the games. We screen Olympic athletes before they compete so I don’t see why we wouldn’t for players earning money irl. Can’t ban 30% of the player base because every game would lose customers. So for now, we are stuck playing w discord hacks and chronus idiots.
vac-live in CS2 is gonna be a game changer. they already had vac-net which was AI, it just wasn't allowed to ban players on its own. supposedly now it will with its new implementation. gonna be sweet.
and you right about the banning issue. rainbow 6 siege stated they wont ban cheaters, just increase their recoil to insane amounts to make the game "unplayable" except if they are cheating, they already have zero recoil. lmao. they basically said "most of our players cheat, so we wont really ban anyone" and im sure activision is the same with call of duty. if most of the players cheat, they can't earn money on skins. lmao.
@@goblinphreak2132 Yea, even Valorant’s notorious “vanguard” seems like it isn’t working like it use to. Later at night is when the hackers are more prominent but sometimes in Ascendant 3 lobbies, I get new accounts with the weirdest game sense or aim. Obviously there are smurfs, but with some research, I found many cheats being sold for Valorant. The only way I can see this being solved is a fully implemented AI. There’s a company that already made one and it apparently has a 99.7% detection rate or something like that. It detects ESP, aimhacks, chronus, ai aim, etc. And it even tracks old gameplay footage and gathers a gameplay footprint being able to detect hackers playing on a new PC just by the way they play. It’ll definitely change the way gaming works. Hopefully CS2 is similar to something like that. It would make me love gaming again.
Only thing the team can do is cut this player out
The Forsaken of Call of Duty
He prob used PO hacks online and the delayed HWID ban when it was his part of ban wave lmaooo
Jimbo banned to the shadow realm
I wonder how good Jimbo would be in CS
4:34 they play using controller...
Maybe I missed out on it but what was the cheat to begin with?
The only way to reliably cheat without getting caught is also one of the only ways and easiest ways to cheat on console because it works the same on pc and console but also you need a pc to do it so...
We're all thinking the same thing so imma say it. Bro def had that word.exe on
Feel like the guy doing this video got salty that he didn't get a reply from him and ended up taking it personally near the end of the video... not a good look at all for the Score!
Good. Zero tolerance.
Imagine cheating while on a controller with aim assist
I get what you are saying bro, that's a 3 year-olds argument.
controller is mandatory in professional cod so...
Cheating itself doesn't mean much until money involved. If you cheat and cause someone to lose their lively hood from it, guess what it's no longer just a game.
The one that is affected most are his teammates
Well... imagine if the CSGO witch-hunts start up for COD
Can't even compare. Tactical shooter versus , some arcade shooter game 😂
Just think, if people are willing to cheat in monitored events, what's stopping popular twitch streamers and youtubers from cheating? They have a lot of incentive, access to infinite alt accounts, and legions of followers that they need to impress. It's an industry wide problem.
he would cheat at home during online use which could include online tourny's. I would doubt he would cheat at the LAN event cause they have officials watching like hawks as well as their display output is feed in to the production truck. It would take some reason brass ones to attempt to cheat there and think you won't get caught. Its pretty easy tell if someone plays like a god online at home but when they aren't on their machine then they play like a potato. I know pressure being that could effect but if it happens time and time again month after month god at home crap at a LAN then its valid question to ask if they a cheat.
KEKW JIMBO start that mcd app boiiii
ive got banned for using a vpn once, never got unbanned.. lost access to cold war bnecause of it.. support was dogshit aswell and wouldnt help or look into it either.
Oh hey look, they're finally doing something about cheaters after how long? This happening after the other scandal seems to close to be a coincidence. They're trying to appeal to their customers they've lost.
Its forsaken all over again
You spoke too soon about counsel cheating given the sale of hacking hardware for consoles is apparently booming. Call of Duty anti cheat just started detecting them somehow and numerous bans followed.
When it is Jimbo it is just Jimbo, when it is forsaken, it is forsaken from India. Why!!
"how much did this effect competitive integrity" probably the same as the other pros getting caught cheating?????
Should’ve left out the last few seconds talking about EA split
Oh cool he got banned now he can make a new account and keep playing😂 he just won't be able to attend tournaments
Because he didn’t sponsor there game enough still a lot of streaming cheaters.
02:26 *that optic gaming banner behind him reminds me of OPTIC INDIA AND THE INFAMOUS word.exe by f0rsaken*
Issue is his skills in the game werent any different then online from my understanding? I didnt look much into but Most if not all cheaters avoid lan because they are bad else wise.
He was terrible on lan
They should just make comp back on console
this guy needs his teleprompter just a tad faster
Curious what sort of cheats he was using.
Wouldn't redeem the guy in the slightest.
But I am curious.
Is this another Word.Exe moment?
Never Forgive a Cheater... once they cheat they can't play without cheating.. so they will ALWAYS cheat again... and again...