In Poland the 50 kW charger wave has pretty much ended now. If we get any 50s, then they're newly, domestically produced by companies like Ekoenergetyka. They also produce equipment for Ionity for Central/Eastern Europe and Scandinavia in some extent.
Are EV sales growing in Poland? I know Jeep Avengers and FIAT 600e are built there but are the Poles buying them? If so, what is the percentage of sales?
@@robertn2951yes, sales are growing although the economy is hitting us hard, in march share of EV sales among all new cars was like 4% but the share is growing constantly. Infrastructure is also getting better and better. When it comes to the Fiat and Jeep you mentioned I am not sure how does their sale look like - we’re pretty much overrun by Teslas, Volvo, Mini and so on.
Right now viewing is probably low because it is summer, and people watch football, tour de france, Olympics, etc. Don't change too much, Bjørn 👍 Maybe do 500 km challenges for the new cars and estimate 1000 km times. Keep it up...
@@bjornnyland You're probably right. I'm only watching these FIAT videos because I'm interested in the ABRP app. Interior review only because it's fun to see your interactions with Isabel!
Already looking forward to the ABRP video. I have a love / hate relationship with abrp. It could be great but it is really buggy and my car is still in Alpha. I don’t feel like paying for it in its current state.
At least it's not as loud inside the car. They tweaked it a bit on 2024+ Kia/Hyundai so it's not as long. Reverse and tailgate beeping is annoying too.
In the UK, I'm still seeing Shell and GeniePoint installing ABB 50kW, it feels like a total waste of resources. Most other networks are rolling out Alpitronic Hyperchargers or Kempower units.
About the fogging. Some evs does not run the ac-compressor in the winter so the air doesn't get dry and remove the fog. It only goes on for cooling in the summer. My VW e-up 2020 is one of them. Open a window a little bit or change the air flow to only the wind shield. Up with the fan also helps.
Is this the best car in Fiat's range. 600e seems to be just a step above most of what Fiat has produced recently. Hopefully for Fiat it will actually sell!
Hi Bjorn. All you do for EV community is amazing. All you do for people wanting to switch to full EV is amazing. Don’t make any changes. Different people looking for different information, maybe combine few tests in shorter video format, that should satisfy us all. Thanks to you I drive Ioniq 5, never before or after I’ve seen or heard you so excited when first time test driving a vehicle. The only vehicle you sabotaged 1000km challenge by pulling in to a charger with over 40% battery charge left on first leg on both occasions. But hey, you have to protect your Tesla Bjon name😉. Keep up the good work
Do you know when is ABRP showing the max and when the min Battery temperature? I have a feeling it is switching over to the max if the battery is hot, but I'm not sure when it is happening. Making the font size changable would be also great, I also have issues with that sometimes...
Maybe you don't have live data on in the abrp. And there is some things you have to change in abrp. Like soc when arriving to the destination and also soc when arriving to a charging place. My abrp is just perfect and 100% accurate. You just have to have a dongle and pay some for it to work 100%. The free without car connection works bad in my opinion.
I think all your old 50kW chargers have been sold to ChargePlace Scotland who seem to think nobody on this earth needs a charger any faster than 50kW………. In fact I think that they would even prefer us all to use their 7kW units. It’s a government agency in Scotland so they have to make do with only enough money to pay crazy high salaries to the senior people and cannot afford new 150 or 350kW chargers…………..
Can I be pedantic here....(sorry) ChargePlace Scotland have no say about charger installation they are solely the back office for administrating the charging. Generally the chargers under the CPS system are installed and owned by local authorities who, due to lack of funding, unfortunately, end up having to go for the cheapest option. Its not a great system but at least you generally have to deal with one charging company which to me is a plus rather than playing a version of Uno with RFID cards and apps...
Bjorn its not the meat in the service station food. Sounds more like the bread. Sounds like a gluten intolerance intolerance. We need a 1000km challenge to prove the theory!
Regarding ABRP did you follow the route planned by ABRP or the one on in car? It is my experience that ABRP continuously tries to lead you to motorways or at least outside towns and cities if it can, even if it takes longer and uses more power. You didn’t have the voice guidance on, so if you didn’t pay attention, and not followed ABRP planned route, it will recalculate each time you deviate. Thus the estimated. SoC at arrival will rise every time. I have been bugging ABRP to make a toggle for avoid cities, so I can pick the shortest route and lowest consumption. Because I mostly prefer the shortest route. ABRP is a bit weird on this point. Also It does not seem to learn, so it overestimates my consumption on a trip from home to work or back with 2-3% every time. You really should try to use Android auto or Apple CarPlay with ABRP.. It gives an entirely different experience than phone only. 😊😊
I'm unable to show battery temp with my Toyota BZ4X MY23 (new model), not sure if thats the OBD adapter missing som info or Toyota has removed battery temp trough OBD port 🙃
@@60plus01 Agree, even tried with Soltera profile and no difference, I can see batt temp with Car Scanner app but not with ABRP, but it show outside temp, what OBD dongle do you use? 🙂
I've noticed more semi crashes on version 5 as well on my old Galaxy S8. It doesn't fully crash, but I noticed the car display via Android Auto lags behind more and more on car position. The trip log is also messed up when this happens.
Hello Björn, what carscanner did you use with this Fiat? Did i see 0.3% degradation on it? What is your opinion about this? Would be perfect for other cars? Greetings from Holland 🙋♂️
Hi Bjorn. Try releasing short videos for tests such as breaking, acceleration, noise and headlights. Four short videos (instead of one long video) may do better.
The problem is not the car, but that there are to many electric cars to choose from today, and it does not stand out as something special. And Fiat is not known for realibility.
Fiat had a history. Kind a unreliable. Kind a hard find spare parts for a even little older car. Toyota, Ford whatever, you have better luck finding spare parts. Fiat is not notorious of supporting older cars nor making cars last very long
Its great that you getting sponsored even if you have critism. That's respect.
Bjorn. Thanks for this test. It's probably the most important test for eletric cars. 👍
Please dont stop doing headlight tests Björn! But potential buyers of this car might be less bothered idd.
Yes, please, keep the normal tests you do, Bjørn...
I was not being clear. I didn't mean I will stop the test permanently. Just not doing it with this car.
Thank you Bjorn.
In Poland the 50 kW charger wave has pretty much ended now. If we get any 50s, then they're newly, domestically produced by companies like Ekoenergetyka. They also produce equipment for Ionity for Central/Eastern Europe and Scandinavia in some extent.
Are EV sales growing in Poland? I know Jeep Avengers and FIAT 600e are built there but are the Poles buying them? If so, what is the percentage of sales?
@@robertn2951yes, sales are growing although the economy is hitting us hard, in march share of EV sales among all new cars was like 4% but the share is growing constantly. Infrastructure is also getting better and better. When it comes to the Fiat and Jeep you mentioned I am not sure how does their sale look like - we’re pretty much overrun by Teslas, Volvo, Mini and so on.
Right now viewing is probably low because it is summer, and people watch football, tour de france, Olympics, etc. Don't change too much, Bjørn 👍 Maybe do 500 km challenges for the new cars and estimate 1000 km times. Keep it up...
It's low because people don't care about 600e. Just look at the Tesla autoparking video. A lot more views.
@@bjornnyland You're probably right. I'm only watching these FIAT videos because I'm interested in the ABRP app. Interior review only because it's fun to see your interactions with Isabel!
Already looking forward to the ABRP video. I have a love / hate relationship with abrp. It could be great but it is really buggy and my car is still in Alpha. I don’t feel like paying for it in its current state.
I feel your Pain... The alarm every time I exit my Kia Niro with key in my pocket is the most annoying thing about it...
At least it's not as loud inside the car. They tweaked it a bit on 2024+ Kia/Hyundai so it's not as long. Reverse and tailgate beeping is annoying too.
If the windscreen keeps fogging make sure it is clean, they are often quite dirty. Also, try forcing the ventilation to the defog vents.
In the UK, I'm still seeing Shell and GeniePoint installing ABB 50kW, it feels like a total waste of resources.
Most other networks are rolling out Alpitronic Hyperchargers or Kempower units.
About the fogging. Some evs does not run the ac-compressor in the winter so the air doesn't get dry and remove the fog. It only goes on for cooling in the summer. My VW e-up 2020 is one of them. Open a window a little bit or change the air flow to only the wind shield. Up with the fan also helps.
Or change the coding of the car, OEM don’t run it for WLTP purposes, but you can change the coding so that it runs constantly, uses around 200-300W
@@marcohillenga5068 I have thought of that. I have OBD11 and gonna check it out.
Probably sent Australia as we only have about 400 DC rapid chargers in the whole country!!!
Hope you bet to try the Alfa Romeo Junior too.
You could do headlight test just as a part of the consumption test. I'm interested in both, but don't need a new video just for one...
It's not permanent. Just for this car. Don't worry.
@10:10 You didn't use the OBD SoC value when planning new trip I think? I noticed the departure was set at 100% SoC @10:03
Thank you for testing. I can argue to get another Tesla instead of Fiat
fogging on the window can, if the car is new, be caused by gases released from the interior and the glue they have used
Is this the best car in Fiat's range. 600e seems to be just a step above most of what Fiat has produced recently. Hopefully for Fiat it will actually sell!
Without the old chargers how does it work with Chademo cars long distance?
Hi Bjorn. All you do for EV community is amazing. All you do for people wanting to switch to full EV is amazing. Don’t make any changes. Different people looking for different information, maybe combine few tests in shorter video format, that should satisfy us all. Thanks to you I drive Ioniq 5, never before or after I’ve seen or heard you so excited when first time test driving a vehicle. The only vehicle you sabotaged 1000km challenge by pulling in to a charger with over 40% battery charge left on first leg on both occasions. But hey, you have to protect your Tesla Bjon name😉. Keep up the good work
Do you know when is ABRP showing the max and when the min Battery temperature? I have a feeling it is switching over to the max if the battery is hot, but I'm not sure when it is happening. Making the font size changable would be also great, I also have issues with that sometimes...
Maybe you don't have live data on in the abrp. And there is some things you have to change in abrp. Like soc when arriving to the destination and also soc when arriving to a charging place.
My abrp is just perfect and 100% accurate. You just have to have a dongle and pay some for it to work 100%. The free without car connection works bad in my opinion.
I had live data.
I think all your old 50kW chargers have been sold to ChargePlace Scotland who seem to think nobody on this earth needs a charger any faster than 50kW………. In fact I think that they would even prefer us all to use their 7kW units. It’s a government agency in Scotland so they have to make do with only enough money to pay crazy high salaries to the senior people and cannot afford new 150 or 350kW chargers…………..
Can I be pedantic here....(sorry) ChargePlace Scotland have no say about charger installation they are solely the back office for administrating the charging. Generally the chargers under the CPS system are installed and owned by local authorities who, due to lack of funding, unfortunately, end up having to go for the cheapest option. Its not a great system but at least you generally have to deal with one charging company which to me is a plus rather than playing a version of Uno with RFID cards and apps...
Please dont stop doing noise test, Björn.
Bjorn its not the meat in the service station food. Sounds more like the bread. Sounds like a gluten intolerance intolerance. We need a 1000km challenge to prove the theory!
Nope, it's not gluten intolerance for sure. I eat lots of gluten when I'm home.
Regarding ABRP did you follow the route planned by ABRP or the one on in car?
It is my experience that ABRP continuously tries to lead you to motorways or at least outside towns and cities if it can, even if it takes longer and uses more power. You didn’t have the voice guidance on, so if you didn’t pay attention, and not followed ABRP planned route, it will recalculate each time you deviate. Thus the estimated. SoC at arrival will rise every time.
I have been bugging ABRP to make a toggle for avoid cities, so I can pick the shortest route and lowest consumption. Because I mostly prefer the shortest route. ABRP is a bit weird on this point.
Also It does not seem to learn, so it overestimates my consumption on a trip from home to work or back with 2-3% every time.
You really should try to use Android auto or Apple CarPlay with ABRP.. It gives an entirely different experience than phone only.
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I'm unable to show battery temp with my Toyota BZ4X MY23 (new model), not sure if thats the OBD adapter missing som info or Toyota has removed battery temp trough OBD port 🙃
Strange. I see it in my Subaru and its more or less a Toyota
@@60plus01 Agree, even tried with Soltera profile and no difference, I can see batt temp with Car Scanner app but not with ABRP, but it show outside temp, what OBD dongle do you use? 🙂
Also are you running android or iphone?
Why not use ABRP trough Android auto ?
Because you have to pay to use it
@@Doryxbirb He is sponsored by them...
I am different, i seen enough tesla video’s, Seen it, been there…like the car…
ABRP 5 was super buggy driving from holland to France. My iPhone was very hot and I had to kill and restart ABRP all the time
I've noticed more semi crashes on version 5 as well on my old Galaxy S8.
It doesn't fully crash, but I noticed the car display via Android Auto lags behind more and more on car position.
The trip log is also messed up when this happens.
Would not surprise me if they were sent to Australia. They still install 50kw chargers here
And they power them with diesel generators? Lol
@@bjornnyland only in the really remote areas.
Hello Björn, what carscanner did you use with this Fiat? Did i see 0.3% degradation on it? What is your opinion about this? Would be perfect for other cars?
Greetings from Holland 🙋♂️
This was not car scanner.
It's ABRP. He literally says it like 50-100 times in the video?
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Hi Bjorn.
Try releasing short videos for tests such as breaking, acceleration, noise and headlights. Four short videos (instead of one long video) may do better.
Probably sent to the UK.... EV-3rd world country.... and 50kw is a lot there ;)
The problem is not the car, but that there are to many electric cars to choose from today, and it does not stand out as something special. And Fiat is not known for realibility.
You should continue to have your own agenda. We are followers, not leaders.
Fiat had a history. Kind a unreliable. Kind a hard find spare parts for a even little older car. Toyota, Ford whatever, you have better luck finding spare parts. Fiat is not notorious of supporting older cars nor making cars last very long
FIAT is Stellantis now. Where you can find Peugeot, Citroën, Opel, Jeep vehicles, you can find FIAT parts.
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