BANDS THAT CHANGED THEIR SOUND AND FELL OFF (or didn't) - Vol 2

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @ThePunkRockMBA
    @ThePunkRockMBA  4 года назад +67

    The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/punkrockmba11

    • @Helzdottir2903
      @Helzdottir2903 4 года назад +1

      SLAYER

    • @sav-
      @sav- 4 года назад

      I hope you will see this LOL but could you do a video on the movie school of rock? That movie I know helped shape me into the music that I love today. It gave me a love for the classics. It came out when I was in fifth grade so I thought I was just so cool LOL me and all of my friends were obsessed with that movie when it came out and I still know the words to that movie today. I think that movie definitely shaped a lot of us kids at the time when it came out. I’m 27 now and I still think that movie is important.

    • @N0D3M0NZ_H3R3
      @N0D3M0NZ_H3R3 3 года назад

      Never knew Discharged made a hair metal album. Lmao

    • @thrawl
      @thrawl 3 года назад

      Dude you completely forgot about Alice in chains drastic change, how they went from a corny hair metal band in the 80s to one of the best alternative/grunge metal bands of the 90s

    • @AMPProf
      @AMPProf 3 года назад

      We know the truth!: ye ol' Sausage fest is fun till it's not!

  • @mattallen2392
    @mattallen2392 4 года назад +1375

    Finn “and I can totally respect that” Mckenty

    • @ghastlythnerd9267
      @ghastlythnerd9267 4 года назад +151

      Finn “not that there’s anything wrong with that” McKenty

    • @jerryonlychild7003
      @jerryonlychild7003 4 года назад +112

      Finn “and with that out of the way” McKenty

    • @phoenixsidepeen5468
      @phoenixsidepeen5468 4 года назад +138

      Finn “which, from a marketing standpoint, makes total sense” McKenty

    • @JerOfTheDead
      @JerOfTheDead 4 года назад +7

      Spot on! Lol

    • @dcfromthev
      @dcfromthev 4 года назад +12

      Great comments here

  • @crowing3886
    @crowing3886 4 года назад +435

    "I don't know man, The Punk Rock MBA kinda fell off after he got rid of the hatebreed lyrics in the intro"
    Love you finn 😘

    • @magerriley719
      @magerriley719 4 года назад +14

      Underrated comment right here

    • @iletthedevilin828
      @iletthedevilin828 4 года назад +10

      Way to swing to his face

    • @crowing3886
      @crowing3886 4 года назад +21

      @@iletthedevilin828 straight to his face with the truth!

    • @michaelgabs9885
      @michaelgabs9885 4 года назад +3

      When things were at their very worst:
      2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
      The first sign - the Earth will spin faster
      .
      The second sign concerns the sun, which will loom larger, brighter and begin to spin.
      Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
      Beaware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
      After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
      Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
      - will seem to rise from the dead
      - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
      One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
      Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
      - banking collapse was deliberately masterminded by the Antichrist
      - Antichrist will step in and create a false peace in the state of Israel by joining them with palestine in an unlikely alliance.
      - „He will recite extracts from My Teachings, which he will passionately proclaim from every secular stage in the world, until people sit up and take notice of him.“
      The Book of Truth
      mdmlastprophet.com/mother-of-salvation-my-father-will-shake-the-world-both-physically-and-spiritually/

    • @laserbeamlightning
      @laserbeamlightning 4 года назад +3

      Talk about straight to your face with the truth

  • @Zach_Beebe
    @Zach_Beebe 3 года назад +97

    Opeth is my favorite band and I've loved every iteration of them. I love that you can listen to their whole catalog and have a wide variety of sounds. Mikael Akerfeldt is my musical God.

    • @Prognosis__
      @Prognosis__ 3 года назад +7

      It’s Mikael’s band so he can do whatever he likes....I find his new stuff great....I probably listen to his music from Still life to present more than Orchid and the next 3 albums of his...But then again I’m a prog snob...don’t care if it’s growling or clean

    • @Jablan11
      @Jablan11 2 года назад +6

      @@Prognosis__ I agree, I dont listen to the earliest releases that much and while I am okay with the new stuff their work in the middle is what keeps me coming back

    • @elkornu8
      @elkornu8 2 года назад +4

      Their new stuff makes me wanna cry lol I hate it so much

    • @Zach_Beebe
      @Zach_Beebe 2 года назад +1

      @@elkornu8 I like prog a lot so I still dig it. It certainly is like a whole different band though.

    • @GenuineAltruist
      @GenuineAltruist 2 года назад +2

      "Pale Communion" is in my top 10 favorite albums ever.

  • @STARPHASE
    @STARPHASE 4 года назад +366

    "I don't personally like them, but there's not a bad album in their catalogue"
    This is what I like about you. So many people can't say this. If they don't like a band, they just think they suck. But you can not like a band, and still recognize that they make good music.

    • @darrenthetuber743
      @darrenthetuber743 4 года назад +2

      I don't even know what that statement means. Is it the positive way of saying "I want no part in any hate for this band just the love"

    • @butdontaskme5345
      @butdontaskme5345 4 года назад

      Whats a bad album lol

    • @STARPHASE
      @STARPHASE 4 года назад +26

      @@darrenthetuber743 No. It means that while the music might not line up with his tastes, he can recognize that the artists involved are good, and that they don't 'suck.'
      There's a lot of artists out there that I don't like, because their sound isn't for me. But I can still see and respect their talent. I hate death metal, because it just doesn't appeal to me. But do I think death metal bands are talentless and bad? Definitely not. In fact, I recognize that those artists have an insane ability to play their instruments and use their vocals that way. I just don't personally like it. But my dislike doesn't come from me thinking the music is bad.

    • @-redacted_by_youtube
      @-redacted_by_youtube 4 года назад +1

      But we can all agree bieber sucks right?

    • @gavinburr6213
      @gavinburr6213 3 года назад +6

      he uderstands that personal tastes dont have to poison objectivity

  • @kevindie
    @kevindie 4 года назад +435

    *_Incubus fans: “We want S.C.I.E.N.C.E. 2!”_*
    *_Incubus: “No.”_*

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +53

      Dude, they completely fell off on this new stuff. Hardly hear anyone talk about them anymore. It's a shame. Light Grenades was their last solid effort.

    • @HaloBro003
      @HaloBro003 4 года назад +21

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 while I'm not as big of a fan of the new stuff as something like Make Yourself, there are some bops on the new albums. I really like Adolescents, and their Trust Fall EP kinda slaps

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +23

      @@HaloBro003 Idk man. It's the same thing with Red Hot Chili Peppers for me. Just lost all of that spark and creativity. But RHCP are still as relevant as ever, now that they also got John back so I'm stoked to hear what they do with him now.

    • @Karmakeddon_MtG
      @Karmakeddon_MtG 4 года назад +14

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 Well in regards to RHCP, Josh is also a monster guitar player in his own right. The only thing that "hindered" his success in RHCP was the fans not liking him. If you look at it closely, Josh had the same chops as John, only in a unique flavor. The whole The Getaway album just shows Josh Klinghoffer can hang with the best.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +3

      @@Karmakeddon_MtG Yeah, it is a bit unfortunate that he got the boot with the way he describes it in interviews. Seems like something is fishy about it all. Apparently, it was mutual, but still.

  • @FABRIZZLE
    @FABRIZZLE 2 года назад +30

    Incubus changed entirely from SCIENCE to If Not Now, When…
    Deftones is one band that has changed a little over the years and has still remained great.

  • @seanoconnor5730
    @seanoconnor5730 4 года назад +486

    When Pantera stopped playing hair metal, they blew tf up.

    • @zenistermister9695
      @zenistermister9695 4 года назад +52

      That's when Phil joined the band. A lot of people don't even know they have albums before Cowboys from Hell.

    • @ElectromagneDikk
      @ElectromagneDikk 4 года назад +9

      Great Southern Trendkill baby!!!!!!!!

    • @nicholasfultz3122
      @nicholasfultz3122 4 года назад +6

      They had one album in that era with Phil. More Priest-y than Hair metal I would say tho

    • @zenistermister9695
      @zenistermister9695 4 года назад +11

      @@nicholasfultz3122 Yeah, Power Metal, i still think it was a kickass album. Dimes riffs were killer.

    • @MrStephen182
      @MrStephen182 4 года назад +8

      I prefer the hair metal stuff. I dislike all that look us at us we hard men, don't look at us wrong or we fuck you up stuff they had going on in the 90's and early 2000's. Really not my scene. I hate when metal bands act like that. Dress up, wear makeup and have fun with the music.

  • @albe23
    @albe23 4 года назад +111

    NIN is a fantastic example of a band that changed their sound over time without changing their identity. Trent's early 90's era is vastly different then the stuff he's been putting out today. However, you can clearly tell it's still NIN. One of the few bands that I have listened to for around 30 years and still haven't tired of.

    • @nicholasromig5506
      @nicholasromig5506 4 года назад +8

      one hundo p. dude evolves every album and does new stuff constantly but it always feels like him.

    • @invaderjae
      @invaderjae 4 года назад +7

      Shit, NIN's first album is a new wave/industrial album and was in the late 80's. Then he went full industrial and has been changing his style up ever since.

    • @MeatEatingVegan777
      @MeatEatingVegan777 4 года назад +3

      That's what is fantastic about NIN. The style changes constantly, but it is still sincere, still emotional, still Trent. It's all still fantastic. Trent is insanely talented, he's a hero of mine. (Him, and Marilyn Manson, for standing up for the people who never fit in, the "freaks." For never backing down from that message. For saying that you should be yourself. For fighting against Christian extremism. Love you, Manson, thank you for what you've done, your music is pretty awesome too.)
      If I ever front a band, I will outright refuse to cover any NIN songs, because all of his work is soo personal. It's all his pain, his experience, his life, struggles. It's all him. So, I feel it would be very disrespectful and tasteless to cover any of his work......except for Head Like A Hole. From what I heard, that's one of Trent's songs that he made quickly and it doesn't have much meaning to him. He doesn't seem to like the song that much. That'd be the only song I would comfortably cover, if that is the case.

    • @allielightfoot2769
      @allielightfoot2769 4 года назад +5

      Because NIN is Trent reznor and Trent reznor is NIN.

    • @elena79rus
      @elena79rus 4 года назад +3

      I think it's something similar with Red Hot Chili Peppers. The stuff they've been releasing in the 2000s is very different from their early stuff, yet they still have their own unique recognizable sound and they haven't changed their genre.

  • @SairajRKamath
    @SairajRKamath 3 года назад +30

    It wasn't just Slayer - EVERY big-to-mid-sized thrash band from the 80s changed up their sound in the 90s and won people back in the 2000s. Even the ones in Europe, like Kreator. It was a very interesting time. 😀

    • @periair8874
      @periair8874 2 года назад +3

      Yeah but I think Endorama is pretty good Album from Kreator I like it . I can’t understand why people hate that Album and that Music.

    • @libertyspike8890
      @libertyspike8890 2 года назад

      Yeah,nobody chang3d more than anthrax

    • @EvelynSucksAtLife
      @EvelynSucksAtLife Год назад

      Tbh I really like new kreator. The melodic stuff is actually pretty good

  • @AxeMain
    @AxeMain 4 года назад +170

    The Opeth song you played (Windowpane) was about 8 years before they went 70's dad prog. No one cares, but I wanted to do my daily keyboard flex for the day

    • @ThePunkRockMBA
      @ThePunkRockMBA  4 года назад +41

      Lol

    • @nicolasbrunelle2189
      @nicolasbrunelle2189 4 года назад +38

      Damnation is a masterpiece

    • @Adam-wl4pt
      @Adam-wl4pt 4 года назад +43

      I think people who like 'old Opeth' typically like Damnation. I think Heritage is where everyone got pissed.

    • @JLujan4492
      @JLujan4492 4 года назад +4

      @@Adam-wl4pt agreed. The old stuff that wasn’t metal seemed more jazz inspired or something. Now it’s all dad prog.

    • @matthewdevon1923
      @matthewdevon1923 4 года назад +12

      @@Adam-wl4pt Fan since 2001 and Damnation is killer. It was promoted as a counterpart to Deliverance and more as a detour than “the new Opeth sound”. They even followed it up with two more great death metal albums! Heritage onward though...😐

  • @blaisex22
    @blaisex22 3 года назад +235

    Marilyn Manson said in an interview a few years ago, that him and McGrath are friends/neighbors and that McGrath actually told him that he knew he was going to get blamed for every shitty song with a calypso vibe to it but he didn't care. He just didn't want to go back to hanging drywall.
    Smart man.

    • @tsdobbi
      @tsdobbi 3 года назад +25

      I will never ever blame an artist of any kind "selling out" Everyone shitting on them would do the same goddamn thing if it was that or working a regular job the rest of their life.

    • @blaisex22
      @blaisex22 3 года назад +9

      @@tsdobbi Absolutely!! Overkill is still out there touring and grinding while Metallica is sitting fat and happy. I'm pretty sure Overkill would trade places with them any day regardless of their "integrity".

    • @sqlb3rn
      @sqlb3rn 3 года назад +6

      @@tsdobbi untrue, I like my day job and would never sell out musically. Touring the country on a bus playing sellout music I don't like for $40k a year sounds like a miserable fuckin time.

    • @lucag.lisickza425
      @lucag.lisickza425 3 года назад +5

      marylin manson antichrist superstar,holy wood and the golden age of grotesque are very good industrial metal albums.

    • @coolvideos365
      @coolvideos365 3 года назад +9

      @@tsdobbi I think the vast majority of people who complain about “selling out” are kids in high school still supported by mommy & daddy. If you don’t like the new record than just don’t listen to it or go to the show.

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns 3 года назад +29

    I wish I could give ONE BILLION likes for giving props to Divine Intervention (my favorite Slayer album) and of course Paul Bostaph. I've seen Slayer play Angel of Death and Raining Blood more times than I can count on both hands, but I've never seen Killing Fields live once. Goddamn travesty.

    • @A-1-Sawce
      @A-1-Sawce 2 года назад +4

      God damn I fucking love me some Killing Fields. Seen Slayer dozens of times as well, love Dave Lombardo's work with them. Managed to catch a stick from Paul Boataph is their farewell tour a few years ago.

  • @ReeceDK
    @ReeceDK 4 года назад +52

    This is the second time that you recommended a Metalcore band to grow soul patches. I am getting worried about your true intentions.

  • @DaveRichardsonFitness
    @DaveRichardsonFitness 4 года назад +110

    I think a key component in a band not falling off is making sure that despite what albums they put out, they have a GREAT live setlist. I don’t like it when I go to see a band and they only play songs from the last 2 albums even though they have 5 albums. People don’t go to see Of Mice & Men to hear Pain and Unbreakable. People don’t go to see Blink 182 to hear the California album. That can really make or break whether I want to see a band for me

    • @ScoobWRX04
      @ScoobWRX04 4 года назад +2

      this.

    • @DaDinkler
      @DaDinkler 4 года назад +2

      Trophy Eyes needs to learn this lesson.

    • @lavenderllamamusic
      @lavenderllamamusic 4 года назад +1

      facts. i was just thinking of this the other day

    • @zannyreflections9651
      @zannyreflections9651 4 года назад +2

      Bmth, tdwp, motionless in white, asking alexandria, we came as romans, attila, and others are guilty of this. Could you imagine going to see metallica live and they play nothing from the first 4 albums? Everyone would be livid

    • @DaveRichardsonFitness
      @DaveRichardsonFitness 4 года назад

      @@zannyreflections9651 Yeah We Came As Romans 2009-2014 stuff is SO GOOD AS WELL!! I See Stars also had 2 great albums then switched genres. Fortunately I saw them in 2011 (although they only played 5 songs lol)

  • @chilidem
    @chilidem 2 года назад +30

    Dittohead is an absolute monster. I love that track. It's a massively underrated track in Slayer's discography.

    • @Top10Dylan
      @Top10Dylan 2 года назад +8

      Divine Intervention is some of their best work. It's definitely my 4th favorite, maybe even my 3rd favorite Slayer album. It's on par with Seasons.

    • @robdalton4528
      @robdalton4528 2 года назад +2

      @@Top10Dylan The entire album is brutal, lyrically and instrumentality. One of their best. That album definitely brings it.

    • @StackingtheSouth
      @StackingtheSouth 2 года назад

      Fuckin SLAAAAAAYYYYYEEEEERRRRRR

  • @johnschaffer6968
    @johnschaffer6968 4 года назад +109

    To be fair Austin Carlile suffers from a rare genetic condition known as Marfan syndrome that affects his connective tissue and causes weakness in his heart, lungs, ears, joints and muscles. So he was given less and less responsibility in the band until he eventually left the band completely due to his inability to scream consistently.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +6

      Yeah, it's sad. I love the new album though!

    • @aironnocturnal5365
      @aironnocturnal5365 4 года назад +32

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 when you consider he's been accused of sexual assault by numerous women, it becomes much less sad imo..

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +12

      @@aironnocturnal5365 I knew this was coming. And I understand this take on it, but they're still accusations at the end of the day. Plus I wouldn't wish death on anyone no matter the circumstances. Just like how I think everyone canceled Tyler Carter from Issues was a HUGE shame. It all seems fishy to me. Pvris' guitarist too. Not sure what to say about I The Mighty and Emarosa. Those situations still seem fishy but at least with ITM, I think they're canceled completely now..

    • @jeffgreer419
      @jeffgreer419 4 года назад +27

      Austin is the reason anyone knows Of Mice and Men LOL not only did he make the band... He wrote the song that blew them up and got everyone to know them. Second and Sebring is about Austins mom..

    • @jeffgreer419
      @jeffgreer419 4 года назад +13

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 I get the whole Canceled thing but he wasn't found guilty so... All it takes it one person to get angry or jealous to email ur boss and canceled any of us like we are perfect and don't make mistakes or around people who do.. imagine tour life. Any artist could be arrested for there partys etc

  • @LuciusGeronimo
    @LuciusGeronimo 4 года назад +281

    My niece is 14 and she loves new BMTH. She came over to my house and asks what i was listening too, and i said BMTH. She thought i was joking because it was Count Your Blessings.
    I let her see the music video and she couldn't believe her eyes that they started out as a Deathcore band.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +4

      Did she enjoy it? 😂

    • @LuciusGeronimo
      @LuciusGeronimo 4 года назад +22

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 i don't think so lol. Although she likes Throne.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +3

      @@LuciusGeronimo Well I would think she would lol that's part of their sound change.

    • @LuciusGeronimo
      @LuciusGeronimo 4 года назад +26

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 she doesn't like screaming in music. She thinks it's and i quote: "dumb"
      She's 14 and her English isn't that good. But i guess she'll like it when she's older.
      When i had her age i was heavily into Dubstep.

    • @restoringforce9893
      @restoringforce9893 4 года назад +12

      @@LuciusGeronimo good old 2012

  • @Bravo.Buzzard
    @Bravo.Buzzard 3 года назад +12

    I can’t believe you didn’t mention Ministry. They went from ‘With Sympathy’ (1983) which included poppy tracks such as Work for love, Here we go, and Say you’re sorry to ‘Twitch’ (1986) with a much more aggressive industrial sound with tracks such as Just like you, Abortive, and Over the shoulder. They’re one of those 180 degree transition bands as well.

    • @Lukiel666
      @Lukiel666 2 года назад +2

      Yep. Every Day is Halloween then Just One Fix. Play them back to back at a Goth bar and half the people there won't believe you when you tell them it's the same band.

  • @JLujan4492
    @JLujan4492 4 года назад +97

    You didn’t even mention Kid Rock’s cameo in the movie Osmosis Jones as Kidney Rock. SMH.

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 4 года назад +4

      Lmfaooo

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +2

      Holy shit

    • @maxmedina5403
      @maxmedina5403 4 года назад +5

      Can’t forget his role in Joe Dirt

    • @nonyodambiz
      @nonyodambiz 4 года назад +2

      "They say it's statutory, I say it's mandatory".... biiiiig oofs right there, chief.

    • @lostCoyoteofMA
      @lostCoyoteofMA 4 года назад

      @@nonyodambiz How the hell did that line alonw not bump that movie up to an R rating? Like, that shit's ridiculous.
      Although I don't like the MPAA and how weird and arbitrary their decision-making process is and the amount of faith that the general public puts in them. It's far better than the Production Code, but most things are better than the Production Code.

  • @jburdsinfuse
    @jburdsinfuse 4 года назад +63

    In an interview with Sonic Youth, they said the problem for them was that they became better musicians. Just like a painter...your skills change and it impacts how you compose.

    • @astrosquirrel5038
      @astrosquirrel5038 4 года назад +9

      I love all of Sonic Youth’s stuff. They continued to evolve while staying true to who they were.

    • @alexcantu3539
      @alexcantu3539 4 года назад +5

      Sonic youth is great

    • @Malum09
      @Malum09 4 года назад +7

      I think that some artists eventually get bored of doing the same type of material after a while and try to experiment and see what else they can do, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 4 года назад +5

      And bands like Dinosaur Jr haven't really changed their sound much since the 90s but their newer albums still sound great and different. That's prowess too.

  • @ericrector4563
    @ericrector4563 3 года назад +16

    I loved sugar Ray's first album. Funky, rock all over the place.

    • @SethHMG
      @SethHMG 3 года назад +3

      Mean Machine still goes hard.

  • @Hubcityhap
    @Hubcityhap 4 года назад +38

    Parkway Drive is the "Australian Five Finger Death Punch" hahaha. That made me laugh so much. It's true though. They changed a lot and it took me a while to come around to their new sound. I never considered them falling off. They are still a great band and super talented.
    PS I had no idea Sugar Ray ever sounded any different.

    • @mattasaurus12
      @mattasaurus12 4 года назад

      Just another scene band

    • @CarlHH777
      @CarlHH777 4 года назад +1

      At least, Parkway Drive don't have embarrassing politics (as far as I know).

  • @CraigSimmonds
    @CraigSimmonds 4 года назад +40

    Never forget how Architects tried to tone it down with The Here and Now, then got heavier again and became HUGE.

    • @crowing3886
      @crowing3886 4 года назад +1

      That's actually kinda true. They didn't go Animals tone it down though. They were still architects. Just had a few songs a little softer.

    • @jamesmorrison192
      @jamesmorrison192 4 года назад +2

      I give that album a spin every now and again. I have to say, Stay Young Forever is still a killer track

  • @dad_moose
    @dad_moose 3 года назад +146

    I love that BMTH literally have a song called "heavy metal" where they call out the old deathcore kids who won't leave them alone about the old stuff lol

    • @bobbywagner1860
      @bobbywagner1860 2 года назад +9

      On an album that was objectively their worst work to date which was immediately followed by a return to roots EP that saw their popularity skyrocket again. It had features from major artist and mixing from several established producers, blended old and new, and generally catered to old fans of the genre with styling similar to Linkin Park on some songs and features from long established alt and post hard-core artist on others. So....

    • @xblurx888
      @xblurx888 2 года назад

      Because their new shit sucks especially with mgk

    • @IceBreakBottle
      @IceBreakBottle 2 года назад +2

      @@bobbywagner1860 You're wrong in so many ways haha

    • @IceBreakBottle
      @IceBreakBottle 2 года назад

      @@bobbywagner1860 Want me to go through some stats, that only speak facts?

    • @ianmurray8925
      @ianmurray8925 2 года назад +1

      Anyone that does clean vocals in metal generally always sellout down the road. Never trust metal bands that do cleans.

  • @hellyeahtehmeh
    @hellyeahtehmeh 4 года назад +230

    kid rock is the tiger king of the music industry

    • @shelbyb9965
      @shelbyb9965 3 года назад +17

      Omg. This is too fucking true!
      I will say, Kid Rock does put on a pretty good show. My mom is a big fan and I begrudgingly took her to a concert for her birthday. As much as I don't like his music, I had a good time.

    • @margareth2320
      @margareth2320 3 года назад +1

      The accuracy 👌🏼

    • @insearthanamesaheera5712
      @insearthanamesaheera5712 3 года назад

      Hahaha :D

    • @FullFrontalLobotomy
      @FullFrontalLobotomy 3 года назад

      Scarey and True

    • @FullFrontalLobotomy
      @FullFrontalLobotomy 3 года назад

      🔥

  • @whitecloak11
    @whitecloak11 4 года назад +257

    Laugh at sugar ray all you want but their shows are 90 percent women, instead of a metal sausage fest.

    • @spookrockcity
      @spookrockcity 3 года назад +9

      Shut the door baby, dont say a word

    • @frank8534
      @frank8534 3 года назад +11

      Interesting...I’m going to the next sugar ray show

    • @BigPapaSam96
      @BigPapaSam96 3 года назад +3

      Well I heard they still put on a really good show. I wish that they would do a show where they play songs from Lemonade and Brownies and Floored, instead of them just playing their hits

    • @poli.f.0nia
      @poli.f.0nia 3 года назад +3

      So the purpose of a musician is to get girls to go to their shows? lol

    • @whitecloak11
      @whitecloak11 3 года назад +8

      @@poli.f.0nia yes if your show has 50 percent women the guys will show, boy bands not included but you can get alot worse than sugar ray how many girls at a five finger deathpunch show without meathead boyfriends who came to fight

  • @kcobabe
    @kcobabe 2 года назад +4

    What makes parkway drive big is their live presence. I saw them when they were first starting and again when they got big. Both times they rocked that stage, some of the best concerts you could go to.

  • @brightyoungidiot
    @brightyoungidiot 4 года назад +16

    Hey man, this might be a weird video to drop this comment, but it’s your most recent one and I’ve got something to say.
    I just wanted to say thanks for introducing me into so many new bands lately. So many that I’ve surprisingly never heard of, or never really gave a proper chance. I’m coming out of a dark place right now and music has always helped me heal and finding and binging this channel while I’m fucking around with my guitars has helped me. I’ll stop every few minutes and add a new band to my Spotify. So again, thanks and hope you keep making great videos!

  • @justinalexander5959
    @justinalexander5959 4 года назад +223

    Dude in my eyes AFI can do no wrong, i've loved their evolution over the years and it's great to go back and experience each era since they were all so unique. Idk if this is me being biased but i really just love everything they do

    • @godwarrior3403
      @godwarrior3403 4 года назад +19

      Absolutely agree. I'm familiar with all their work, but not necessarily the "lore" behind them or what people think of them. I didn't know people hated them til this vid and I'm like whaaaaatttt?

    • @justinalexander5959
      @justinalexander5959 4 года назад +3

      @@godwarrior3403 Aye at least we can appreciate em

    • @ZackSeifMusic
      @ZackSeifMusic 4 года назад +32

      It all works Live too. They’ll play some Sorrow/December stuff then Crash Love and Burials then play a song from Drowning and it all works.

    • @justinalexander5959
      @justinalexander5959 4 года назад +1

      @@ZackSeifMusic100%

    • @nicholasromig5506
      @nicholasromig5506 4 года назад +10

      yeah I was an AFI board kid in the early 2000s and I will always have their backs even at their weaker moments, which are still pretty good.

  • @juguy2110
    @juguy2110 3 года назад +9

    Speaking of Slayer changing their style, you have to mention Undisputed Attitude, an album that almost only consists of hardcore cover songs. And surprisingly my favourite Slayer album.

    • @underacheiver2000
      @underacheiver2000 2 года назад

      Late to comment. Undisputed is a fucking monster album, Hanneman was a big hardcore fan and he brought those songs to the table. Their cover of The Stooges Now I gonna be your God has blown out more than one set of speakers in my car.

  • @ManOfCoalPT
    @ManOfCoalPT 4 года назад +47

    In fairness to Underoath, their line-up changed a fair bit from their initial records so the streamlining and "cleaning up" of their sound over time makes a lot of sense. The drummer Aaron is their only original member and even he left for a brief period.

    • @krushreal
      @krushreal 4 года назад +12

      I gotta be honest. I think the first three underoath albums are some of the best metalcore albums ever recorded. Those albums are peices of art imo

    • @joshcap4275
      @joshcap4275 4 года назад

      @@krushreal you got that right

    • @samrbrts
      @samrbrts 4 года назад +1

      @@krushreal Act of Depression, Cries of the Past, The Changing of Times?

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson 4 года назад +5

      Reminds me of Norma Jean, except Norma Jean doesn’t have even 1 original member now. They might as well change their name, or just call themselves a Norma Jean cover band

    • @samrbrts
      @samrbrts 4 года назад +5

      @@lovesgibson ever heard of Napalm Death?

  • @maxx1014
    @maxx1014 4 года назад +40

    I guess your number one aim of this channel is pissing off music nerds and I absolutely love it

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson 4 года назад +2

      It gets him more activity on his channel

    • @HorseloverFat1984
      @HorseloverFat1984 4 года назад

      The main reason i watch that channel.

    • @meghanbeverly837
      @meghanbeverly837 4 года назад +1

      Same. I’m totally here for the neckbeard nerd rage.

    • @shanleecaulfield7064
      @shanleecaulfield7064 4 года назад

      It doesn’t take much to do that to be honest. I do enjoy it though.

  • @dtbenso
    @dtbenso 3 года назад +2

    Dude, you nailed it on Parkway Drive. Both the "Australian As I Lay Dying" comparison and the shows they used to play - perfect! I saw those guys at a shitty Knights of Columbus on one of their off days on a tour and it's one of my favorite concert memories.

  • @DustDragon
    @DustDragon 4 года назад +143

    BMTH really nailed changing their style. At the right pace, and while being honest to themselves and to the fans. That's why them doing ''harsh'' stuff again is incredibly satisfying. They're not doing it to please old fans, they're doing it because they want to, because this is what they want to do as a band
    This is why they are way more respected than bands like Asking Alexandria or Avenged Sevenfold, for instance.
    If I had to think of another band that changed (but not that drasticaly) efficiently and for the right reasons, it would definitly be Trivium
    And don't let me start about Ronnie Radke, that man nailed being what he is on stage and making HIS music (Falling In Reverse is clearly Ronnie Radke project, when you think about it... x) he's the kind of dude around whom you gravitate and go along with the flow, not sure if there is a real place for personnal ideas when you are a musician in this band (when you're not Ronnie, I mean) )

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +3

      Yes, was going to mention Trivium. They had quite a weird era after In Waves but finally found their sound again on TSATS!

    • @frnndgrm6268
      @frnndgrm6268 4 года назад +1

      The problem with Asking Alexandria is Danny , with his big ego and the rest of the band doing what he wants they make a few good songs when they were one of the most popular metalcore bands during the 2010's, and I totally agree with you about BMTH, at first I was an edgy kid talking shit about their change because I really liked their metalcore style, even thoug TTS is not a big deal for me, it's a really good album, and what they did with 'amo' is beyond awesome, they were not afraid of doing what they wanted to do, and I'm enjoying a lot their comeback to heavier music

    • @DustDragon
      @DustDragon 4 года назад +2

      @@frnndgrm6268 As much as I love Dany, I have to accept that you're right T.T

    • @patrickkavanaugh8482
      @patrickkavanaugh8482 4 года назад +3

      Anyone who actually wants BMTH to change from what they're doing now back to their old style has an awful taste in music im just gonna be honest

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +2

      @@patrickkavanaugh8482 Yeah, their deathcore days were super generic.

  • @permafrost2064
    @permafrost2064 4 года назад +71

    Homie, its time. Do a video on AFI. You talk about them in almost every video, its the logical thing to do.

    • @MrStephen182
      @MrStephen182 4 года назад +3

      I think it's one of the bands he will never do a video on because of their fan base, he has lots of bands like that. Could be wrong.

    • @spookinari1524
      @spookinari1524 3 года назад

      @@MrStephen182 true, especially earlier era fanbase. I personnally love their early stuff, I mean I even kind of like them until 2007, even though DU is stretching it a bit. They are my favorite band but as a fan of the earlier stuff, I notice so much hate from that era fanbase because they went soft.. sad

    • @bL3dbL4k
      @bL3dbL4k 3 года назад +2

      I love most all AFI. Pre-99 was the hardcore punk phase. I still blast it in the car when I wanna let out some aggression. Songs are 1-2 mins long. They started evolving around 99. Longer songs, better production. All Hallow's EP. Black Sails. Art of Drowning. Sing the Sorrow. DU is a masterpiece. CL is the last one I listened to. The last 2-3 albums.. Not feeling it.

    • @calliew311
      @calliew311 3 года назад +1

      AFI was highschool for me. The Answer That and Stay Fashionable, with "Wanna Be A Highschool Football Hero" as a song in my Jeep on repeat. Their later stuff is ok but not my style. I think I dropped off around the mid-late 2000s, maybe 2007ish.

  • @sadnomowe
    @sadnomowe 3 года назад +5

    I discovered BMTH when Sleepwalking came out and a bit later Sempiternal. I went and listened to their old stuff and loved it and I’ve been listening and loving everything they’ve been putting out.

  • @ayjay579
    @ayjay579 4 года назад +33

    I found AFI during the emo MySpace days. Then I later found their old punk stuff. Both are great but they became so much more dynamic after changing. Their punk style was good but it could only go so far and Decemberunderground was such a unique album. Nothing has ever sounded quite like it and it’s still one of my favorite albums of all time.

    • @Yep_That_Guy
      @Yep_That_Guy 4 года назад +5

      I listened to them as a punk band...and it was so weird when they changed 😂😂

    • @CrashLoveGaming
      @CrashLoveGaming 4 года назад +6

      Decemberunderground sounds like 2006. It's like a time capsule.

    • @AlilBitAlexxis
      @AlilBitAlexxis 4 года назад +1

      Bro same couldn't agree more

    • @1sliiver
      @1sliiver 4 года назад +4

      @@Yep_That_Guy Yeah...I picked up AFI in the late 90's and they were WAY better as a punk band. I saw the video for "Girls Gone Grey" shortly after it's release and nearly barfed it was so lame.

    • @TimeoutKB
      @TimeoutKB 4 года назад

      In my opinion, they went from rancid/ bad religionish music, to slower punk, then more of a gothic rock style (like the cure, but more “hardcore”), then Emo and screamo, and now it’s sort of a post emocore I guess, except softer.

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah 4 года назад +22

    Sugar Ray - When It's Over will always be my 2001 summer theme, skating with my buddies around the neighborhood by day and playing PS1 by night

    • @real30yearoldboomerhours53
      @real30yearoldboomerhours53 2 года назад

      Maannnn you just brought me back. My sister had that CD and always played it. I was 9 and just learning to skate. Good times

  • @fallenhobbit6554
    @fallenhobbit6554 3 года назад +3

    thank you for what you said about the Beastie Boys. They actually changed their style with almost every album. They even put out an instrumental jazz/funk album in the early 90s. The In Sound from Way Out.

    • @chrislair6832
      @chrislair6832 2 года назад +1

      Probably my favorite group of all time. Hello nasty was so crazy experimental. But yeah you're totally right

  • @Zeroaddone
    @Zeroaddone 4 года назад +45

    Stumbled upon a recent Davey Havok interview and the dude is STILL straight edge.
    Can’t knock the commitment.

    • @tsdobbi
      @tsdobbi 3 года назад +3

      I actually like that band he started with the rest of the members of No Doubt.

  • @dancino5601
    @dancino5601 4 года назад +29

    another band who’s changed dramatically and it worked: hundredth
    they went from melodic hardcore/metalcore, to shoegaze, to 80’s style synth pop and it kept getting better

    • @MikeIzzle_
      @MikeIzzle_ 4 года назад +2

      I was hoping he would touch on them! They changed dramatically over night basically but it sounded great. I love their new stuff even more than the hardcore sound they started on

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад

      Man, idk what it was but I only enjoyed their first 2 albums. Pretty similar turn out with Being As An Ocean. Although, idk what to call that band anymore. Are they even still around?

    • @underrottensky
      @underrottensky 4 года назад

      i think them shoegaze stuff was really cool, more than hardcore, but new album kinda boring and it's sad

    • @Joshua-ww1fz
      @Joshua-ww1fz 4 года назад +1

      Their latest is a bit too poppy for my taste but Rare is honestly one of the best shoegaze albums I’ve ever heard.

    • @DudeCalledDibs
      @DudeCalledDibs 4 года назад

      Thanks for confirming this. I found them on spotify and checked their old stuff and thought "this can't be the same band".

  • @Gab_eb94
    @Gab_eb94 2 года назад +4

    Hey man, great content as always.
    Also, another good example would be Asking Alexandria. Started being one of the most succesful scene/screamo/metal bands from the 2010's, than transitioning to a more straight forward style and becoming more of a modern rock band or something. IMO i think they aren't well suceeded in their change because it kinda looks and sounds like they're not really into it anymore, Danny looks really lazy and bored at their gigs. Although i like to listen some of their new stuff.

    • @ixishadesixi5101
      @ixishadesixi5101 2 года назад +1

      Yep I just saw them live last weekend, been about 8 years since I last saw them and it was completely different. And they played 0 old songs, so they must not want to do that style at all anymore. Was disappointing

  • @e.tezani3877
    @e.tezani3877 4 года назад +40

    In flames anyone? From the jester race to Clayman to reroute to remain to now

    • @Makron220
      @Makron220 4 года назад +1

      This.

    • @dinothegonzo
      @dinothegonzo 4 года назад +1

      With In Flames basically holding a legendary status now, they've already cemented their status there. I get the hate over their new sound but I can dig their newer material.
      However I hate the Clayman rerecordings. I really do.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +2

      @@dinothegonzo I can back anything up until Sounds of a Playground Fading, but this new stuff I just find Anders vocals way too whiny.

    • @CaptainBangief
      @CaptainBangief 4 года назад +2

      I came in late to In Flames, after hearing Take This Life on GH3, I latched onto the sound they had around that time.

    • @maciejnowak666
      @maciejnowak666 4 года назад

      I remember how disappointed i was with Reroute. I did check out a song or two from last years album, it was pretty good. But still, im not a huge fan anymore

  • @geologyjohnson7700
    @geologyjohnson7700 4 года назад +10

    That Discharge hair metal album has blown my mind more than you can comprehend. Even more so than the Celtic Frost one.

  • @anthonygillette
    @anthonygillette 2 года назад +4

    Man, Opeth put out Heritage the year after I had discovered them. I had binged their first 10 albums the entire year, and loved every second of it. I put on Heritage and was blown away. I grew up listening to 70’s prog and hard rock, and those influences were worn on their sleeve. A 10/10 psychedelic prog album, and it needs to be recognized as one of the best in their career.

  • @yuriheck5934
    @yuriheck5934 4 года назад +9

    9:58 the thing about OM&M blowing up almost instantly was in part because Austin brought a lot of Attack Attack! fans with him when he founded the band, you can say the same about Caleb Shomo with Beartooth.
    Also Austin leaving of mice and men was mostly because he had to deal with alot of health issues (he suffers from Marfan syndrome), having to deal with multiple surgeries, making him unable to tour and so on, not because "the band kept him around just because he was the star". He decided to step away to care for his own health.
    Anyway, great video as always, Finn! :)

  • @eloso5670
    @eloso5670 4 года назад +88

    Wacken Open Air Core is one of the more dumbfounding genres, but they're doing something right so I can't knock the hustle

    • @Hispandinavian
      @Hispandinavian 4 года назад +8

      That Discharge is kinda like when Celtic Frost made their Glam record Cold Lake.

    • @TundraCH
      @TundraCH 4 года назад +5

      Arch Enemy is another huge band in the Wacken circuit haha

    • @shaodynasty1017
      @shaodynasty1017 4 года назад +3

      what do you even mean can you explain ? it's a festival I thought ? and I've seen tons of amazing bands on their lineups throughout the years

    • @shaodynasty1017
      @shaodynasty1017 4 года назад +3

      they've had bands on there like Whitechapel who is death "core" for over 10 years. I'm really confused by your comment

    • @tariqferis4667
      @tariqferis4667 4 года назад +11

      The bias against metalcore as a genre in Europe was kinda insignificant compared to the US even during the scene days, metalcore is considered metal here by basicly everyone

  • @JonnyJungle77
    @JonnyJungle77 2 года назад +3

    A few bands I love every album through their different style alterations:
    Amorphis
    Carcass
    Immortal
    Death

  • @calebmckinney3605
    @calebmckinney3605 4 года назад +16

    Davey Havok is still straight edge. He just tends not to talk about it. He and Jade (AFI's guitarist) started a straight edge hardcore side project XTRMST a while back.

    • @brettbarreras48
      @brettbarreras48 4 года назад +3

      Afi is a little different also because they were known for changing their style every album. The black sails/art is drowning era stuff is still glorious

  • @SadieScarlett
    @SadieScarlett 4 года назад +13

    Enter Shikari would be an interesting case study for this series.
    I love their first album (much better than any other synthy metal/hardcore I've heard) and I'm not a fan of the more indie guitar tones and dubstep wubs they use now, but totally respect them for following their creativity and it served them well commercially

  • @anthonyshanaman5637
    @anthonyshanaman5637 3 года назад +11

    Old bring me the horizon will always be the best

  • @calebwilliams173
    @calebwilliams173 4 года назад +10

    I feel like Enter Shikari, MCR and The Wonder Years are examples of bands whose fanbase is so fervent that as drastic of changes as they went through they were always slated to keep at least the level of adoration that they came out swinging with. So to- so to speak.

  • @waxilliamladrian
    @waxilliamladrian 4 года назад +12

    As someone who also went through my edge phase, I think its safe to say its not a phase for Davey. Dude's in his 40s and still an edge vegan, as far as I know. AFI have effectively settled on like post-punk rock type stuff but I appreciate that most of his hardcore contemporaries still have mad respect 🤘

  • @matthewschreiber520
    @matthewschreiber520 2 года назад +3

    Cool video, i think Anthrax is another great example of change with success and going back to their roots and continue to have success.
    They rule!🤘

  • @regretthebroken
    @regretthebroken 3 года назад +17

    I love Underøath. One of my top five favorite bands of all time, but I couldn’t stand Erase Me. Waking up to find them getting back together in 2018, being greeted with a song like “On My Teeth” and hearing them curse in it felt like I was a teenager again. Then Erase Me dropped and I felt an overwhelming sadness. It sounds nothing like them, and it’s gut wrenching.

    • @tiltingatwindmills3243
      @tiltingatwindmills3243 2 года назад +3

      100% agree. But at least they’ve made up for it now with Voyeurist!

  • @GiGiCage
    @GiGiCage 4 года назад +8

    I've been a fan of AFI since 2002 and I've personally embraced and loved all their changes. I've changed a lot since then and my tastes have also evolved, so I'm sticking with them for life!

  • @residentevilclone
    @residentevilclone 3 года назад +2

    I love exploring this idea. Not many bands can successfully navigate a transformation while keeping and making fans simultaneously. Falling in Reverse and Bring Me the Horizon have definitely done an exceptional job evolving.

  • @jacobreinhart8078
    @jacobreinhart8078 4 года назад +7

    Millencolin is a really good example of a band that changed absolutely for the better.
    Their first three albums were skate punk/ska. My personal favorite out of these albums is life on a plate. The production was not terrible but also not nearly as good as it probably could’ve been compared to say punk in Drublic by Nofx.
    In the year 2000, they released an album called Pennybridge Pioneers. It’s still very much a punk rock Album, but it added a little bit of hard rock to their style and ditched the ska. It’s Literally one of the greatest punk albums ever. From what I hear they basically became overnight celebrities when it released. One of the songs from the album was also in Tony Hawk Pro skater 2 but I’m sure you’re familiar with🤙🏻
    Great video as always, Finn🤘🏻🤙🏻

  • @lcberthiaume
    @lcberthiaume 4 года назад +17

    One band that constantly changed their sound (more in their first albums though), but always kept it interesting, is Thrice! Hard to believe the first skatepunk album is the same band as the more athmospheric stuff they did later.

    • @wheelsofmercury
      @wheelsofmercury 4 года назад

      I saw them live in Toronto a few years ago, and when they played their old metalcore stuff, my jaw hit the floor.

    • @lcberthiaume
      @lcberthiaume 4 года назад

      @@wheelsofmercury love them in every iteration! Amazing musicians

    • @ConsistentlyInconsistent21
      @ConsistentlyInconsistent21 4 года назад +4

      The Artist in the Ambulance. Phenomenal album.

    • @fehner27
      @fehner27 4 года назад +5

      Thrice Illusion of Safety is amazing

    • @xNimrod97x
      @xNimrod97x 4 года назад +2

      No joke! Thrice is one of my favorites all throughout their career

  • @GuitarIsMyHer01n
    @GuitarIsMyHer01n 3 года назад +2

    Man the Parkway Drive change still depresses me. Killing ith a Smile, Deep Blue, and Horizons are by far some of my favorite albums in metalcore.

  • @DaeronMaxedOut
    @DaeronMaxedOut 4 года назад +36

    I was expecting to hear something about asking Alexandria. I find it funny how a British band turned into red state American butt rock

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад

      I think Danny lives close to me. Somewhere in Florida. That's all I know.

    • @ScarletCord95
      @ScarletCord95 4 года назад +5

      He’s mentioned them before like they’ve successfully changed their sound but I couldn’t disagree more. Even though there’s a decent amount of original fans that like their new stuff, I’d say most of them hate it. And I’d say their Self-titled album felt way more inspired and natural than their latest album.

    • @mynameisjeff4511
      @mynameisjeff4511 4 года назад +1

      Danny became an American who likes guns...pretty much sums it up

    • @wheelsofmercury
      @wheelsofmercury 4 года назад

      @@ScarletCord95 As a huge Asking Alexandria fan, I agree!

    • @underrottensky
      @underrottensky 4 года назад

      @@mynameisjeff4511 he lives in US for 11 years, he said it's natural for him

  • @NormalStudios
    @NormalStudios 4 года назад +16

    Teardrops by bring me the horizon is a near perfect blend of their old and new stuff

    • @KradunkulousE
      @KradunkulousE 4 года назад +5

      I'd say the entirety of Post Human Survival Horror is a perfect blend of new and old

  • @mikenaus
    @mikenaus 3 года назад +3

    Title: BANDS THAT CHANGED THEIR SOUND AND FELL OFF
    Thumb: Includes Opeth
    Me: TRIGGERED

  • @SuperHeroNexus
    @SuperHeroNexus 4 года назад +11

    When BMTH did their deathcore throwback at Alexandra Palace in 2018 it made my life.

  • @HighEnergyPessimism
    @HighEnergyPessimism 4 года назад +16

    In Flames! Started off as one of the first swedish melodic death metal bands, pretty much influenced every band in the mid 2000s era of metalcore and but genuinely no longer have a single founding member and sound rather mundane in my opinion. I think they're a good example of how one's feelings towards a change in sound is hugely influenced by what aspects of the band drew you to them in the first place. For me, it was the guitar work of Jesper and Bjorn, and as that has slowly been phased out (I liked one album post-Jesper leaving as there was some great guitar work and harmonies on SOAPF) I have listened less and less to each new album. On the other hand, Davey Havok was the reason I started listening to AFI and as he has remained an integral piece of AFIs sound, I still listen to them regularly, including their new stuff.

    • @danideath1726
      @danideath1726 2 года назад +1

      guess you would love the new "The Halo Effect" then :D

  • @owenwexler7214
    @owenwexler7214 2 года назад +3

    A sentence I never thought I’d hear myself saying: “damn, that Sugar Ray song really sounds like Rollins Band.”

  • @Zeppelinschaffner22
    @Zeppelinschaffner22 4 года назад +14

    Another great example of bands that changed and backtracked is Korn.
    When they put out See you on the Other Side people lost their shit... And then the Skrillex of it all... (Which in retrospect are actually quite interesting musically), but their latest album sounds like a more polished version of their early records.

    • @Vinsanity09
      @Vinsanity09 4 года назад +4

      I actually love their dubstep collaboration. I thought they blended it well

    • @mickybeason3963
      @mickybeason3963 4 года назад

      Yes I TOTALLY thought he was going to mention KoRn but nope :(

    • @joanbighorn9778
      @joanbighorn9778 4 года назад

      SYOTS is one of their best records IMO.

  • @JT-wr5dv
    @JT-wr5dv 4 года назад +11

    You're exactly right with Parkway Drive. It took me a long time to come round to their new stuff but it got me in the end. I think it's because the dudes in that band have the best mentality. They're chill guys who make the music they want and haven't stopped grinding since they started. Plus their live shows are phenomenal...ah, live shows. Those were the days! Great video as always Finn, thanks man!

    • @Vinsanity09
      @Vinsanity09 4 года назад +5

      I like the dudes in Parkway but their new sound is borderline 5 Finger Death Punch. Way more power chords and simple song structures. They have so much talent being wasted on this style. I thought Atlas was great because it showed progression and growth in their sound without abandoning their foundation. Then they went off the rails with their latest album.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +1

      @@Vinsanity09 Amen. Atlas is a very underrated album of theirs.

    • @Vinsanity09
      @Vinsanity09 4 года назад +2

      Also i wanted to mention that i wrote this comment before watching the vid and knowing Finn also called them 5 finger death punch 😂 glad he was thinking the same thing

    • @JT-wr5dv
      @JT-wr5dv 4 года назад

      @@Vinsanity09 I'm sorry you don't like the new stuff dude! That's a shame. I dig it though, it's not their old stuff, but it's great music. I'd hardly say their talent is wasted, personally. It's far more difficult to write a simple metal tune with hooks like theirs than something ultra technical from my experience.

  • @AlexG207
    @AlexG207 3 года назад +4

    Strangely enough for Opeth I really like their later work after Watershed. In Cauda Venenum was a really good album, hearing it live just as it came out was a absolute treat.

  • @jwebby85
    @jwebby85 3 года назад +18

    Let’s not forget that Kiss went disco for a hot minute. You wanna stay relevant, you gotta evolve with the times, but you still have to sound like you. It’s a fine line really.

    • @maxh9579
      @maxh9579 3 года назад +2

      I Was Made For Lovin You was the song that got me into Kiss and Kiss got me into the entire rock&metal scene so I will never not love Dynasty aka their disco album

    • @jstorey6226
      @jstorey6226 2 года назад +1

      They went , disco , a concept album than pop , than did the 80s hair like metal , than 90s style rock than tried grung , than went back to makeup , and they’re still selling out on tours

  • @GregKerr301
    @GregKerr301 4 года назад +32

    We are all waiting on Finn to go full circle and get back to being a Straight Edge Dork.

  • @capostatus937
    @capostatus937 3 года назад +8

    Brand New is another band that changed their style successfully

    • @machupikachu1085
      @machupikachu1085 3 месяца назад

      To be fair, their sound is always 'Brand New'.

  • @kevindie
    @kevindie 4 года назад +35

    *_I have a list of perfect pop songs, and “Every Morning” by Sugar Ray is at the top of that list._*
    *_It’s a very short list, by the way._*

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +4

      I feel like your comments are standing out a lot because you're typing in bold letters 😂

    • @kevindie
      @kevindie 4 года назад +4

      @@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 *_Shh..._*

    • @benbruhns192
      @benbruhns192 4 года назад +1

      Be my baby, god only knows, the road, I saw her standing there, take me to the river, hound dog

  • @sonshawnzy9975
    @sonshawnzy9975 4 года назад +11

    Linkin park with a mtm, and later ats . They still were huge , but it polarized the fan base

  • @mrgallbladder
    @mrgallbladder 3 года назад +6

    Linkin Park, Paramore, Kutless. There are sooo many bands that did this.

    • @floopk8036
      @floopk8036 3 года назад

      yep definitely paramore

  • @geeshta
    @geeshta 4 года назад +15

    BMTH are starting to incorporates screaming/breakdowns back into their music again. Not going full deathcore again, but Obey, Treardrops and Ludens all are much heavier than their last two albums.

    • @garbz1414
      @garbz1414 4 года назад +1

      Just Wait till you hear dear diary from their newest album lol

    • @bvbbiersack4348
      @bvbbiersack4348 4 года назад +1

      Even the havier songs on Survival Horror are really different from bmth older style. I don't think that they actually have 2 albums that sound the same. They've changed their style in each album they've made

  • @ClosedCasketFuneraI
    @ClosedCasketFuneraI 4 года назад +8

    Thank you for adding AFI Finn much love and respect they are not talked about enough.

    • @Tmcclernon
      @Tmcclernon 3 года назад +1

      my fave band

    • @tsdobbi
      @tsdobbi 3 года назад

      My friend was HUGE into AFI and you could feel the denial when Sing the Sorrow came out and it was obviously evolving in a way he wasn't going to follow. It's like he was trying to convince himself it's what he wanted to hear. He finally gave up on the band when he went to a show and realized he was like 25 in a sea of 14 year old goth girls.

  • @coolvideos365
    @coolvideos365 3 года назад +2

    Was expecting to hear about Bad Religion’s ‘Into the Unknown’ album in this vid. One of the funniest examples of changing up your style.

    • @safletcher
      @safletcher 2 года назад

      Scrolled through just to see if someone would bring it up. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned sooner! I'd also throw in Face to Face's alternative college rock album "Ignorance is Bliss"

  • @bennymountain1
    @bennymountain1 4 года назад +43

    Finn kinda fell off after Sergeant D, tbh.

    • @ty1298
      @ty1298 4 года назад +6

      Was Finn involved in SYWH?

    • @noname-ng6sj
      @noname-ng6sj 4 года назад +9

      @@ty1298 Dude.... he was SD.

    • @ty1298
      @ty1298 4 года назад +2

      @@noname-ng6sj My minds kinda blown, but that makes a lot of sense.

    • @feelingevaporated2912
      @feelingevaporated2912 4 года назад +3

      Damn this whole video is just an explanation for his own career

    • @NeverWashYourJeans
      @NeverWashYourJeans 4 года назад

      @@noname-ng6sj WOW

  • @jamesperry9197
    @jamesperry9197 4 года назад +12

    the beastie boys have a hardcore album from around 1996 called Aglio E Olio, if you havn't heard it. It's potentially their best album (I actually really like the rap stuff too)

    • @murray1978
      @murray1978 4 года назад

      I love that album. That was my gateway to Beastie Boys punk discography. i remember my roommate in university (in 1997) had it. I still listen to it frequently.

    • @beemaster666
      @beemaster666 4 года назад +1

      I saw them when they played a few secret shows when that album came out. They only played punk songs. Even though it was supposed to be a suprise most of us there knew BB were playing it was leaked somewhere. They played under a fake name and sick of it all opened. 1 show was at Coney Island High(its a club not a school) and I think the other was the at the Limelight

  • @matthewsommerville88
    @matthewsommerville88 3 года назад +5

    I like this dude, very diplomatic in a non phony way

  • @Moonfreeze
    @Moonfreeze 4 года назад +31

    Totally agree that "Divine Intervention" by Slayer is underrated.

    • @kicksex
      @kicksex 4 года назад

      It’s my favorite slayer album
      First slayer album I ever bought

    • @prepperandson1399
      @prepperandson1399 4 года назад +1

      Underated by people in their 50s to my generation in almost 40 it's their best album besides seasons

    • @steemonkey2000
      @steemonkey2000 4 года назад +1

      It's alright. Best album post Seasons easily. They should have gone Death Metal after Seasons, but with normal Araya vocals. Altars of Madness meets Hell Awaits.

    • @prepperandson1399
      @prepperandson1399 4 года назад

      @@steemonkey2000 I agree I'd dig that

    • @Terrytherandomguy
      @Terrytherandomguy 4 года назад

      Yeah always been a god hates us all bc it came at the angsty part of my teenage years

  • @cruizerbrony4902
    @cruizerbrony4902 4 года назад +24

    For me one of these bands is Linkin Park. My big issue with them is that they changed their sound too soon and too often. Metallica was 4 albums into their discography before they changed things up with the black album. But Linkin Park?...2. Not that all of their albums after their second were bad. But I think fans were getting tired of the musical whiplash after every album. Especially with One More Light.

    • @Scoobadoob
      @Scoobadoob 4 года назад

      I was thinking of them too. I loved their first two albums. Most of their music after that, not my cup of tea. The thing is, I never begrudged them for it. By the time Minutes to Midnight came out, I was closer to 30 than I was 20, and probably would have been tired of more Hybrid or Meteora anyway. Much respect for staying on top after their turn though. You get old enough, you realize that every band needs to switch it up.

    • @FuzzyBunnyEars
      @FuzzyBunnyEars 4 года назад +4

      Linkin Park is definitely notorious for this... have to admit, if they kept the same same all this time they probably would have faded out just like every other band who didn’t evolve.

    • @cruizerbrony4902
      @cruizerbrony4902 4 года назад +4

      @@Scoobadoob which is fine. My issue was they did it too soon and too often. Let fans get bored with it first.

    • @Scoobadoob
      @Scoobadoob 4 года назад +3

      @@cruizerbrony4902 If you ever read the reviews of their first album, one of the common sentiments was they were a bit late to the rap-metal party. I don't remember it doing well critically, and it eventually sold well, but it wasn't an instant success.
      I was into a lot that style of music back then. By 2004, after seeing how Limp Bizkit's and Papa Roach's albums went, that whole scene was done.
      I still think it's a blessing in disguise for LP though, as the constant change and experimentation became their trademark, and most people kept an open mind about it.

    • @cruizerbrony4902
      @cruizerbrony4902 4 года назад +2

      @@Scoobadoob I disagree. Because if you ever read the lyrics to good goodbye. It comes off as a middle finger to their old school fans. And I think it was an instant classic. It became the highest selling debut album of the decade. There was also an article on Ultimate Guitar years ago where they hinted at they may have gone to experimental on ATS. And now that their MVP is gone. Now thru start giving the fans what they want?

  • @bobuo7
    @bobuo7 3 года назад +3

    I loved underoath before and after their change in style (and change from Dallas Taylor on lead vocals to Spencer Chamberlain; death metal to screamo).

  • @krissirge
    @krissirge 4 года назад +36

    Weren't Sugar Ray just following Goo Goo Dolls, who also started out as a punk band, but then changed into the pop rock giants we know and love?

    • @Jake_IBS
      @Jake_IBS 4 года назад +10

      I went to a huge Food Network BBQ competition a while back. Sugar Ray played, and there were so few people watching that I walked up to the stage during Every Morning, shook Mark's hand while singing, and returned to my huge plate of meat. Maybe 11 people watching

    • @ThePunkRockMBA
      @ThePunkRockMBA  4 года назад +5

      Nah

    • @dusk7919
      @dusk7919 4 года назад

      Following the ?huh.....

    • @danmarshall5895
      @danmarshall5895 4 года назад +2

      Soul Asylum made that switch going from very good Husker Du style punk/hardcore to their much more commercial pop sound.

    • @krissirge
      @krissirge 4 года назад +1

      @@danmarshall5895 Ahh true, I havent listened to the oldies station a long time, since Runaway Train gets played like once an hour here. :D

  • @Aetheretic
    @Aetheretic 4 года назад +22

    Damnation was the other side to probably their heaviest album they ever made, Deliverance, which was released in 2002, and was released 9 years before they made their first mediocre 70s prog rock album Heritage and changed their sound.
    Damnation is also a massively popular album to the fans of Opeths death metal days. It's really nothing like their new work, it's just an album full of softer songs with no growls on the album.
    Just wanted to get that out there incase anyone unfamiliar with Opeth saw this and liked the sound of Damnation.
    That could be possibly confusing if someone looked up Damnation and listened to the next album Ghost Reveries and was all like "Wait what? I thought they changed their style?" While getting bombarded with epic progressive death metal. They put 2 more progressive death albums out after Damnation. Then moved on to their new sound.
    Sorry Finn! Just had to clarify! I thought you would put a sound clip of something off Heritage or a later album. Damnation totally threw me off guard!

    • @blazingmonolith4323
      @blazingmonolith4323 4 года назад +4

      Yeah the fact that he provided Damnation as his "softer side of Opeth" example just tells me he has the wrong take on Opeth fans. I myself was introduced to Opeth with Blackwater Park and then Damnation and Deliverance. I sort of discovered them in reverse but I kept enjoying everything as I went further back. I would also argue that Deliverance/Damnation double album was the absolute best lineup the band ever had.
      That being said, Ghost Reveries was the last album they did that wasn't disappointing in any way for me. Watershed showed their decline and lack of creativity, I tried to listen to Heritage and Sorceress, but they bore the absolute fuck out of me. There is not one memorable track on either two of those albums, and im not going back for a 2nd listen.

    • @skippy8696
      @skippy8696 2 года назад +2

      @@blazingmonolith4323 Idk, I thought Watershed was a great album. It grows on you the more you listen to it. But you're right, the issue isn't about Opeth 'going soft' it's about them writing music that isn't catchy or memorable anymore. It's almost like the part of Mikael's brain that wrote so many amazing guitar hooks and choruses suddenly disappeared. Most Opeth fans (including myself) rank Damnation as one of their better albums.

    • @bottlemanic
      @bottlemanic 2 года назад

      Damnations one of their strongest efforts in a number of ways

    • @memitim171
      @memitim171 2 года назад +2

      @@bottlemanic It is, but what they did in this video just isn't representative of what actually happened. First time watching this channel and that made sure it was the last.

    • @bottlemanic
      @bottlemanic 2 года назад

      @@memitim171 I checked out around that time too

  • @prg1982
    @prg1982 3 года назад +2

    Gotta say I've got mad respect for Kid Rock. I watched him do a GMA summer concert series way back when and they were in the middle of a musical solo, Kid Rock went to every person in the band and played all of the instruments on stage. I gained so much respect from me for that cause he proved himself an actual artist not just a singer to me.

  • @danspambin2864
    @danspambin2864 4 года назад +22

    "changed so much that they're almost post-genre"
    You missed it, Finn. Your chance to finally bring up Thrice without risk of rabid fan backlash

    • @ITOUTLAW
      @ITOUTLAW 3 года назад +2

      For real. I stuck with it until Major/Minor. I could find stuff I liked on Beggars...but then WTF. I can't find anything redeeming on the later albums. I tried really hard too. I wanted to like it...I just don't get it I guess. I must be an uneducated swine.

    • @ronaldrogan7546
      @ronaldrogan7546 3 года назад

      Wouldn't be a PRMBA video if he didn't mention the same 8 bands over and over again lol. Who is this "Thrice" you speak of? Must be some wild underground shit 😎

    • @bengirard1984
      @bengirard1984 3 года назад

      Yeah I was like ''He's gonna mention Thrice for sure''! They way they started and how they gradually changed is pretty spectacular in my opinion(especially sicne the band has still the original line up).

  • @BigBookoo
    @BigBookoo 4 года назад +13

    Early Black Eyed Peas comes to mind before they picked up Fergie. I thought there was a mistake on their Spotify. Pretty good songs as well.

    • @jasonlovesmusicreacting882
      @jasonlovesmusicreacting882 4 года назад +2

      Masters of the Sun Vol. 1 was an interesting comeback without Fergie too. Not too keen on the latest album though.

    • @alexnolasco1339
      @alexnolasco1339 4 года назад

      Old BEP was amazing, even their 1st album with fergie imo

  • @user-jc5lf6sf7g
    @user-jc5lf6sf7g 2 года назад +1

    this guy has “punk rock” in the title of his show and every episode at some point he says “yeah they completely sold out for money and ya know what?…. I can respect that”

  • @essencer.9494
    @essencer.9494 4 года назад +9

    Just want to say that I love how respectful you are, even to bands that aren't "for you." I LOVE AFI (all of it, really but the post goth, ect ect is my favorite phase). I just really appreciate that you can realize style/preferences is not equal to talent and such.

    • @brettbarreras48
      @brettbarreras48 4 года назад +3

      I love me some Afi. So many great albums

  • @byronbowler
    @byronbowler 4 года назад +12

    Trivium is another example of a band who won their fans back. I was willing to write them off until the sin and the sentence came out

    • @austintyler8567
      @austintyler8567 4 года назад

      I never thought they could ever let me down. Then Silence In The Snow came out, blah.

    • @byronbowler
      @byronbowler 4 года назад

      @@austintyler8567 I didn't like in waves, vengeance falls or silence in the snow. Felt like they had one or 2 good songs and then had loads of average. Sin and the sentence was a power album and had loads of excellent songs and memorable moments. What the dead men say is also brilliant

    • @austintyler8567
      @austintyler8567 4 года назад

      @@byronbowler Love In Waves but yes, Vengeance Falls was awful except for two songs. Stupid David Draiman producing.

    • @mobilemetal4554
      @mobilemetal4554 4 года назад

      I was thinking the very same thing

  • @gulfgangnz1556
    @gulfgangnz1556 3 года назад +1

    I only watched this for AFI but enjoyed it so thank you!

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 4 года назад +8

    Paul's Boutique still blows my mind to this day. It's like the Donuts album from Dilla.

  • @zantetsuken_music
    @zantetsuken_music 4 года назад +7

    Mastodon with The Hunter. Releasing an album primarily based on pop song structures after a progressive metal epic, super huge turnaround. It worked out though, because they didn't really stray far away from the formula that made them successful: memorable riffs and Brann's monster drum fills.

    • @dukeswim202
      @dukeswim202 4 года назад

      The hunter is awful. This band hasn't been the same since crack the skye

  • @adambraun1990
    @adambraun1990 2 года назад

    Honestly one of the reasons I love this channel is because even if you don’t like and artist or a song/record yourself, you don’t put down those who do like it and even respect the artistry of those who made it. That’s how you know you’re really passionate about this scene. You may not be a fan of everything, but you can still appreciate the hard work and time that went into creating it.
    And on the flip side, you can also respect those who are unapologetically making music just to make as much money as they possibly can (like Sugar Ray) lol.

  • @Flickawho
    @Flickawho 4 года назад +7

    Anyone else remember the band A Static Lullaby? Their first record “... and don’t forget to breathe” was (still is) great, then signed to Columbia, totally changed their sound and released “Faso Latido”, which many of us agree was a giant turd. Then they disappeared with the exception of a Britney Spear’s cover. Changing sounds did not work for them in the slightest.

    • @fromfleshtosteel
      @fromfleshtosteel 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, good call! Don’t forget to breathe was one of those landmark albums in the genre I felt, then, ugh... 😔

    • @8.21productions9
      @8.21productions9 4 года назад +1

      holy shit. now that’s a band name I haven’t heard in FOREVER. “...and don’t forget to breathe” was constantly in my rotation back in the day.

  • @lexidarling
    @lexidarling 4 года назад +6

    In retrospect it feels like a very prophetic moment when Ronnie started rapping on that second FIR album. I hated it at the time but now I realize he was really ahead of the game, and the more recent stuff has been way out there with the genre blending, and I respect the hell out of it.
    BMTH are in a similar boat, they always keep it interesting and mess around with people’s expectations. I will never forget the online shitstorm that occurred when they dropped Happy Song. I guess I’ve learned that anything that totally polarizes a band’s fanbase is, if nothing else, worth paying attention to. Great video this week.

  • @IceBreakBottle
    @IceBreakBottle 2 года назад +1

    I remember going to Parkway Drive shows when there was only 15 to 20 people in the crowd at small bars in Brisbane, Australia every weekend and they were always building to what they are now. They walked onto that stage and played like they were playing in front of 50,000 people. They were never set to fail, they deserve everything they got.