My dad was homeless when he was young, he lived under an pier and worked two jobs until he was able to afford a flat. it was doable then... he didn't need to provide a phone number with an email address, a this and a that... there were no mobile phones then... and he was given cash in hand work. It was doable than to be homeless and find some cash in hand jobs. You'd ask for the work and all they ask is for you to turn up, no paperwork required, which I know is not legal, but now it's made so difficult for the homeless to find work
@@rebeccaa6904 The bare minimum you need is a phone, internet connection, valid identification and a bank account to be able to receive the minimal help the idiots provide. And with no ID you can't really open a bank account, so these people are just stuck.
To the people bashing on the homeless (and making it seem is their fault they don't just get a job and a home) It's easy to ignore the mental and emotional state many homeless people are in. If someone has broken limbs no one asks him why he can't work but mental deceases can't unfortunately be seen. It's extremely demoralizing to be without a home/ income/ healthy family support...If you were not depressed before losing everything you have a very high chance to be after. Drug abuse is rampant with people on the streets because often that's the only way they find to cope. It's hard to move forward when the sun doesn't shine.
@Goober Pile Yup, There are the people who grow cocoa beans and don't even know what its used for. All they know is that it would take a months wage to buy a chocolate bar. Here is a video on that. ruclips.net/video/zEN4hcZutO0/видео.html There are people in the Philippine slum of Manila who go through the daily garbage of their local fast food chicken joints where they pick the half-eaten chicken, collect it, pick the edible bits and discarding the bones, wash it, cook it into a dish that they call "Pag-Pag" and in turn sell it off to the folks in the slums. I always thought I would want to visit the main city, Manila, but thank god my parents were born and raised in the rural countryside. It was very nice spending a month out there and meeting my father's side and seeing his childhood home/town. ruclips.net/video/c7gDBVmgIRA/видео.html There is a majority of poverty-stricken folk in Haiti who make "biscuits/cookies" out of mud Here is the YT video: ruclips.net/video/s3337cj4sJQ/видео.html. I think everyone who thinks they have it bad should watch these 3 short videos just for a reality check to see if you are truly as poor as these folk. It's just an eye-opener. I know I can't complain because I'm definitely well off compared to any one of these people. I think the fact that I'm on a computer with some soda and a take-out pizza for dinner, means I can't complain.
@Goober Pile I'm mainly speaking about myself. Actually, earlier this month, on a Tuesday, I went to the movies to watch 2 movies and walked by what I assume was a man "sleeping rough" on a bench outside the Outback Steakhouse. It was raining and after the second movie, I went back to my car and found that I lost my keys and my cell phone went dead. I was there sitting on a bench at 1am. It started to rain harder and was going to sit down on the Outback Bench, but couldn't because it was occupied by the guy sleeping rough. I decided to get out of the rain and walked from the theater to the bus stop to get out of the rain. I was miserable and had to sit there for a few hours. During that time I had again realized how good I had it, and that I couldn't complain. I knew I had a house to go to, where my next meal was coming from and had the option of deciding what I would eat when I got home. It turned out the keys were turned in to the box office. It probably dropped out of my pants pocket while pulling out my smuggled-in can of coke and bag of gummy bears.
@John Brighton I do agree that people who are physically & emotionally healthy able should be forced to work. If you are just on jobseekers & deliberately ruining interviews or only going after jobs you have no qualifications for, you should be forced to volunteer or work a labouring job. However I do not approve of cutting benefits of elderly & actually severely disabled people. The new standard that if you can walk 20m then that means you are not disabled is ridiculous. There should be levels & those who need a bit of help walking or with sight etc should get a bit of money or if the government want to pay directly for their taxi or whatever fine. If a taxi enabled a guy with cerebral palsy to get to & from work without being too knackered to do his job, we should be commending his work ethic, not cutting his taxi money. They should focus on the people who are lying & choosing not to work, not disabled people who are really struggling. There are more people on benefits due to poor parenting, lack of guidance, no youth clubs etc & social services not telling the parents how to parents better & then following up. Like take your kids to the park for free rather than letting them get wound up staying inside while you sit on your backside watching TV for 12 hours a day. Poorly parented kids have more kids they poorly parents I don't know why the government isn't focusing on that large demographic rather than cutting care for the elderly & disabled.
seems like some people struggle to understand the mental trauma that comes with being homeless. Ending homelessness is more than just getting a job, it will take a long time to mentally adjust to stability, structure, and the slew of things people who have never been homeless can easily just get on with. This trauma means that oftentimes homelessness becomes a vicious cycle.
Barrios Groupie Maybe you lack the social intelligence to realise that those buildings are sitting empty and unused when people are dying on the streets.
@@davidulanovsky8943 glad you said it mate, he is a clever man with morals in my eyes caring for others and not just wanting to get spaced out on what ever drugs they use
Hope you're warm & safe Chris I haven't seen you in ages.. I've passed time with this man for over 3 years.From outside Sainsburys,gregs,the art gallery you're always a lovely person.
Whilst even me uneducated works hard for a living,dont feel no sympathy for these wasters,blaming the world ,we have to make our own way in the world no sponge off state
@@chrisjones3901 I understand how you feel I graft my nuts off to cover my ends.. It's more complex.. Some folk can't fit in to society for many reasons.. I don't know the answer.. I also can't judge.. I can assure you the guy Chris in this film is lovely.. He sat near my work & we discussed many interesting things. Not once has he asked me for anything or been negative in anyway.. He's a great reader & just sits.. I probably bother him with my questions but he's never rude..He doesn't claim either, he's just a nomad that doesn't cope with the regime..
Chris Jones can’t sponge off the state when you’re homeless. They don’t even have an ID, do you know the hoops it takes to even get on the dole? I’m sure Chris would rather be working and living in a house
Well not according to his brother,or his mum, if he that keen rather than spend his begged money he could pay to stay in a hostel, the amount he had in his hands could easily pay for food ,board and saves money,he wants government money to pay for drugs ,he said it himself it is not his divine right to be looked after,bad choices he makes ,tuff I dont care one shit about him or his blanket friends ,I have been on the bread line with no money to spare and two kids.i put all my mo ey on my kids food and clothes and warm house,did without for myself,hand me down clothes,cheaper food for me,used my brain,survival can be achieved in many different forms,that bloke teeth disgusting through smoking.i managed to get a business going that my chance to work,he says he not want to be told what to do,he could of started his business and none dictates to him,and no it doesn't cost money to set up a business I did it for £200, he makes more than that in two days,he a low life wouldnt waste my piss on him,
Was a minor and on good behaviour... And it clearly worked for him despite prison being proven at being ineffective at stopping addiction and reducing violent crime
Travis Rabble prison should be about reforming not revenge. He was still a kid, born in the wrong part of town, he is a better person now and that is what matters. He didn't kill anyone.
Anyone of us can become homeless in a heartbeat, so when you come across a homeless person just help them out a little,, not all are drunk, drug atticks or thieves.. Some that i have met are brutally honest people.
I used drugs drink when rough sleeping to get me through I'm 10 yrs clean own place 4 cats my family kids grandchildren by grace God anyone one pay cheque away especially cost living crisis
God Bless you Chris for finding a place for the homless to sleep at night. You give shelter and hope to many, I am sure. Everything that lives must be protected. ^j^
I grew up on a council estate in south London from the 1960s up until the late 1980s. I can honestly say we had more opportunities then these kids. Still hard but there was more of a family structure. Most of our parents were together for good or bad. This was sad to see.
Nowadays its either your parents are split ir they’re still together and fighting all the time. For me its like that anyway. Loads of my mates dont have dads and shit and then they go and get into trouble. My parents are still together atleast, but they fight loads especially around Christmas and shit. Times are hard mate. All these kids without a mum or a dad spending time out on the streets and getting into trouble.
They need love, like love from a family, and sense of self-worth, and something to look forward to, like a purpose in life. If they do, it is less likely they would turn to drugs. Many homeless told me they drink because they want to forget their pain and despair. This is the best way for them to get numbed even if momentarily.
i don't see how you would get that from what i wrote. it's the government's job to work for all the country's citizens. if you don't take care of those on the bottom, problems will multiply and eventually affect everyone.
cluecumber you don’t understand all the uk government is doing is appeasing the voters (the pensioners).Thats all they have to do to get voted in.The conservatives own all the media BBC itv etc.Fait a compli
(Family with 5 boys): Despite what may seem like a non conservative living. The brothers have a great level of chemistry, which is really great to see. I hope they always remain close to each other.
they are dressed well, arent skinny, which means they are eating just fine, having electronics like smartphone and others, having money to drink and do drugs. where do they get money from, if they arent working??
Chris, who is the guy organising the temporary homeless shelters is a hero, such a shame that will never be recognised - an amazing person, doing important stuff, good luck to him
Chris seems to be the only guy with any sense,he wants to get on and do better for himself. He quite savvy and astute,pity no one will give him a chance.
what a good heart that guy has, making the shelters and taking in random people every night even though he has nothing, obviously being in a similar situation himself allows his compassion to turn that way, shame everybody can't get a small dose of what it's like to be freezing cold with fuck all and nobody to care for you. I'm sure you would think twice about calling these folk scum, when you could quite easily be in the same boat. open your hearts x
I’m from the south and I remember going to Manchester for a friends birthday. We were walking to the local and I was wondering why there were so many fabric sheets and covers on the floor. I couldn’t believe it when I found out they were people sleeping. Hundreds of them across the city centre. Obviously this desperation exists everywhere but I’ve never seen it quite like I saw it in Manchester.
@@lolmac6456 he was on crutches. but he seemed okay in himself, had a chat with him for a while. told him i’d seen the documentary which made him laugh. he was really nice tbh. spot him around deansgate mainly and always say hi when i do
Man this is heart breaking. I think it's so wrong to criminalize the homeless; not allowing them to squat and putting down spikes to prevent them from sleeping on the streets. Unless the authorities are going to help move them to somewhere better, they shouldn't be going out of their way to make their situation worse. It's not like anyone is using the abandoned buildings or the benches/pavements in the middle of the night so they're not even causing inconvenience. The world belongs to everyone, we share the streets with each other - so why does anyone have the right to stop others such as the homeless utilizing it? It's literally all they have; I'm sure it's not as hard to just tolerate a makeshift bed on the pavement or allow squatters to stay in an empty building than it is for *them* to suffer while finding shelter. Thank you BBC 3 for making this documentary and the others like it. It is really important.
The guy got 4 separate 2 year sentences but he’s allowed to serve them all at the same time and if he behaves his time is cut in half. So sentenced to 8 years and serves 1, the justice system and maths don’t mix well by the look of it.
12:45 ‘No. I’m not using.’ Yes you are mate. You can see him thinking about the last time he’s used; he can’t lie convincingly because it’s on his mind. Feel bad for this guy.
Chris is 101% ryt when he says that ppl out there on streets is due to being stiched up by system.i know that from first hand experience.hope he ok,trying to make best of a bullshit situation and a bullshit system!
We definitely need more information and awareness about how benefits cut due to ONE apointment being missed. For an example they can cancel 3 times but they miss ONE appointment and it's just gone with no way of making it easy to get help any time soon.
What else have they got to do but get to their appointments on time. probably sleeping in after a night on God knows what or out robbing some old age pensioner and gun poi t
@@vsculpt But also searching for new place to sleep that night, search for food, you know....SURVIVE. That doesn't mean they don't find the appointment important, it's pure survival mode, first things first
Plus mate after paying into the system for over 40 yrs DWP have just informed me that I will not receive my state pension until I am 67yrs and 9 months old and not 65 so instead of it being 4 yrs away it’s now 6 yrs 9 months
@@ab1299 governments fault they steal, smoke weed, do drugs, commit violence? and oh have 6 kids when they cant afford it. Get a grip government is not your babys daddy. Cant feed dont breed.
@@ab1299 to provide services and help society. Not pay for people to do nothing. What happens if everyone decides to do what these low lifes do and sit on their arse and not work. Hows the government going to pay for everyone to do nothing? If your working you are paying taxes for these mugs to sit around and smoke drugs all day and think they are bad arses.
I am upset by Chris. I worked in a Manchester city centre bar that sold cheap pints .Chris came in now and again. One day he came in all perky and ordered several pints of Strongbow because he had found £60 on the streets. This homeless man tipped me a quid each time he bought a pint. Fast forward a week and I saw him selling the Big Issue and I could not buy one as I never carry cash ( seldom had any ) and only took home £180 a week from my bar job and rent came first . I saw the slight expectation in his eyes that I would buy The Big Issue but I couldn't . It was embarrassing . Hope he is ok.
Some people are genuinely struggling. But others receive benefits and play the system. I feel sorry for the genuine people but not for the ones who do have support and due to their cba attitude and the fact they are lazy and choose to put drugs or alcohol into their bodies because they just don't want to work. Others take drugs because something bad has happened and haven't had the appropriate treatment or support to help them.
I lived in Manchester City centre for two years, moved away a year ago. Most of them don't want the accommodation when the housing officers come around to give them temp accommodation until they get a council house. They make more money on the streets from tourists and used to piss on our doorstep. We moved as just as spice was becoming a big problem.
God bless these poor souls in horrendous circumstances.. and people need to walk a mile in their shoes before they judge them... #thereforthegraceofgodgoi Shellter the homeless charity did so research and calculations and found anyone of us bread heads on a salary are ever only couple of pay cheques away from homelessness...
Exactly; someone with a heart. . .They need Jesus is what they need. These commenters are so IGNORANT on all the 'forgotten men' documentaries.. May they all get judged on judgement day is all I can say. NO compassion at all. Well done Shannon Salt; totally agree with you; 'There for the grace of God'. That could be Us.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Not everyone is the same. Yes some people choose that life but not many. It's often a catalogue of things which happen at the wrong times in their lives and even though they can be small things that go wrong, when it continues and you cant always come back from it, you can, through no fault of your own, become unemployed and/or homeless. For the first time, we are seeing people becoming homeless at much later stages of their lives. People who are middle/upper middle classes are now becoming homeless and are on the streets. Something is very wrong with this country and no one seems to care. Well no one in the government anyway. Sadly it's only gonna get worse now universal credit is getting rolled out......
The indigenous people of the uk need to help each other start standing together we need a government that puts its people first stop the foreign aid debacle for a start and get these poor people looked after too many homeless in the uk
It’s so sad and it makes me feel like I should go back and give the homeless people I’ve seen like water and food because like it’ll be so hard for them to get themselves together
There scum and have tricked innocent into feeling sorry for them. I work in a job that deals with homeless alot of the time, all the ones ive dealt with have criminal records as long as your arm, from dealing drugs to robbing oap's the deserve to rot.
Give them food, water, any spare change you have. Remember that most public toilets you now have to pay for. Most homeless people in the street want a safe place like a hostel to go to having enough money for just one night in a warm bed will keep them holding on a little longer.
The cornwrhouse used to be such a great place for art college students to hang out The art work the cafe and the films It was such a cultural place to hang with friends That's how I left It there
this man is a stand up guy, they deserve so much more, power to them, those abandoned spaces should be reclaimed and he's a hero for doing what's right and keeping all those other people safe men like Chris should be running this country not pricks from oxford
They are trespassing on private property. Man if they spent less on smoking God knows what and drinking and maybe even got a job they could rent somewhere!!?? PARACITES!!!
I love these comments, it shows how easy most of your lives are. Even you lot who claim to have been in. Similar positions yet you cuss these out like you stepped above them.
3:00 She reminds me of the mum in the film Gilbert Grape. Making her son the “man of the house” and burdening her kids to do what she’s meant to as the parent
Their is a difference between taking care/helping and enabling. I guarantee those boys are still there, still jobless, and still not doing shit to improve their situation.
in most case, is a mental issue. UK is some of the top Economy in the World, if I was able legaly find a job as a foreigner ( not anymore in the UK) why local guys can do it same. And as far as I know, UK have a good (if not very good) social system, able to help those ``poor`` fellow.... As I said, in most case , those guys have a family issue & and another related issue, as a drog adiction, problem with mental stability, you name it.... I wish those guys, that one day, they will find thenself.
And I know I would want something to smoke if I'd been dealt the same hand as them and I know you would too in the same situation no matter how much you deny it to yourself
I’m at the moment studying in Norwich. Was shocked at first to see how many homeless there were. I was also alarmed how rude and aggressive they are. I’ve been shouted at, told it’s ok for you and your warm bed and sworn at. I have also been there when they’ve been offered a place, only to be told they didn’t want to go as they could not carry on drinking. Only so much you can do for someone. They need to help themselves as well
They go on about all the working class coming together as a community and helping each other and fighting back but they all rob, kill and hurt each other
I see they have all the things for a trek. I am so jealous. I would have gone out for trek if I had all those things such as sleeping bag, rucksack, tent. Man, these things are costly at least in my country.
BlackJackUKOfficial I hope you've used your new found comfort and influence to attempt to make up for what you did in the past. I can imagine you may have ruined some peoples lives by robbing them at gun point
doctors say it , but man, i can tell you, NEVER start & not finish antibiotics. i did , & got antibiotic resistant, i nearly died from a tooth infection from it. i now have a hole in my face, where the infection (luckily) vented out. i was in the hospital for 2 weeks, over a tooth
At the end, it all comes down to the education system and competition which is increasing because well-educated people are migrating to western countries which these countries lack.
So they have 20 people in a dilapidated building. What if someone got hurt or died in the building if it collapsed, or caught fire? They or their family would sue the city and say "well why didn't you get them out if the building wasn't safe?".
Being homeless and living on the streets must be incredibly hard, and in winter even worse. Can you imagine it in winter in the uk sleeping in an alleyway ? I do try and have empathy for people, that being said i feel that some people cant cope in a flat or bedsit when they have one, they cant cope paying bills that you have to pay like rent or electric etc, for whatever reason, mental health problems or being anti social they cant cope with the responsibility of paying the bills from their benefits that they must do, and as such they get evicted and end up on the streets. I have lived in a rough flat and claimed unemployment benefits and scraped by but i survived and paid the bills i had to. Although its not a black and white case because i didnt have the terrible upbringing that i imagine some of these homeless people have had. I do think though that living in a bedsit even if it isnt very nice has got to be better than sleeping on the street ? Perhaps some of these guys can go to their local council or housing association to apply for a flat or at least advice on getting a private bedsit if they explain they are sleeping on the street etc ?
You can buy a phone in Asda. To get photo ID you need a counter signature from a professional, who the fucks going to vouch for any of these people. Also a phone can help you phone others when in trouble, what good is photo ID to someone who has no money?
I feel for the homeless but they don’t care what anguish they cause for innocent property owners who don’t owe them anything, and have to fight to reclaim their (usually destroyed) property from these squatters. The laws need urgent changing.
if i had a rundown empty property i would definitely let homeless stay..in fact,i would build it into a homeless shelter and pay the homeless to do it--just have a no drugs and alcohol policy
I'd rather that they where in an abandoned property than out on the streets where all kinds of terrible things happen to the homeless. Also you say you feel for the homeless but you value someone's unused property over their safety so maybe you should reconsider your phrasing or priorities
Aaron Jackson not all do, I saw many occupied houses in Germany well taken care of, specially when the people were allowed to stay, they tried to turn the places into homes.
unfortunately I believe they're all users. in this country if u want help you can get it. go in rehab and then a dry house. the only sacrifice you have to make is to stop using drugs. its sad in my eyes that people would rather live this way than attempt to turn their life around (like I did).
In the late '80s/early '90s there was the Madchester scene and Oasis. Manchester was the creative city of the world then, just as important as Seattle's grunge scene on popular music. I hope a new music scene will emerge there, and give people some hope again. Also, working class people need to realise that class oppression come from the upper classes and the Conservatives, despite what the Murdoch press says. The friends of the working class are the trade unions and the Labour movement. It's about fighting for basic worker's rights, not obsessing over silly conspiracy theories.
The British government does help homeless people. If you become homeless in the UK, you should either go to your local council, or your local Shelter office. There's a housing charity called Shelter and the government houses people in hostels, supported accomodation, council houses, housing associations, and private rental market, through a benefit called Housing Benefit where the government pays your rent because you're on a low income.
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My dad was homeless when he was young, he lived under an pier and worked two jobs until he was able to afford a flat. it was doable then... he didn't need to provide a phone number with an email address, a this and a that... there were no mobile phones then... and he was given cash in hand work. It was doable than to be homeless and find some cash in hand jobs. You'd ask for the work and all they ask is for you to turn up, no paperwork required, which I know is not legal, but now it's made so difficult for the homeless to find work
Homeless have phones
Safer to walk from job to job then ,too.
@@rebeccaa6904 The bare minimum you need is a phone, internet connection, valid identification and a bank account to be able to receive the minimal help the idiots provide. And with no ID you can't really open a bank account, so these people are just stuck.
@@rebeccaa6904 that phone isn't worth a weeks rent in UK.
Your dad used to be a bum.
To the people bashing on the homeless (and making it seem is their fault they don't just get a job and a home) It's easy to ignore the mental and emotional state many homeless people are in. If someone has broken limbs no one asks him why he can't work but mental deceases can't unfortunately be seen. It's extremely demoralizing to be without a home/ income/ healthy family support...If you were not depressed before losing everything you have a very high chance to be after. Drug abuse is rampant with people on the streets because often that's the only way they find to cope. It's hard to move forward when the sun doesn't shine.
@Goober Pile Yup, There are the people who grow cocoa beans and don't even know what its used for. All they know is that it would take a months wage to buy a chocolate bar. Here is a video on that. ruclips.net/video/zEN4hcZutO0/видео.html There are people in the Philippine slum of Manila who go through the daily garbage of their local fast food chicken joints where they pick the half-eaten chicken, collect it, pick the edible bits and discarding the bones, wash it, cook it into a dish that they call "Pag-Pag" and in turn sell it off to the folks in the slums. I always thought I would want to visit the main city, Manila, but thank god my parents were born and raised in the rural countryside. It was very nice spending a month out there and meeting my father's side and seeing his childhood home/town. ruclips.net/video/c7gDBVmgIRA/видео.html There is a majority of poverty-stricken folk in Haiti who make "biscuits/cookies" out of mud Here is the YT video: ruclips.net/video/s3337cj4sJQ/видео.html. I think everyone who thinks they have it bad should watch these 3 short videos just for a reality check to see if you are truly as poor as these folk. It's just an eye-opener. I know I can't complain because I'm definitely well off compared to any one of these people. I think the fact that I'm on a computer with some soda and a take-out pizza for dinner, means I can't complain.
Oh there it is again, that new disease......depression, it’s taken the place of that old disease......back ache, a benefits guaranteed illness !
@@moomoopuppy5810 I've seen that piece regarding pag pag... Others as well but that one really hit me. .😥
@Goober Pile I'm mainly speaking about myself. Actually, earlier this month, on a Tuesday, I went to the movies to watch 2 movies and walked by what I assume was a man "sleeping rough" on a bench outside the Outback Steakhouse. It was raining and after the second movie, I went back to my car and found that I lost my keys and my cell phone went dead. I was there sitting on a bench at 1am. It started to rain harder and was going to sit down on the Outback Bench, but couldn't because it was occupied by the guy sleeping rough. I decided to get out of the rain and walked from the theater to the bus stop to get out of the rain. I was miserable and had to sit there for a few hours. During that time I had again realized how good I had it, and that I couldn't complain. I knew I had a house to go to, where my next meal was coming from and had the option of deciding what I would eat when I got home. It turned out the keys were turned in to the box office. It probably dropped out of my pants pocket while pulling out my smuggled-in can of coke and bag of gummy bears.
@John Brighton I do agree that people who are physically & emotionally healthy able should be forced to work. If you are just on jobseekers & deliberately ruining interviews or only going after jobs you have no qualifications for, you should be forced to volunteer or work a labouring job.
However I do not approve of cutting benefits of elderly & actually severely disabled people. The new standard that if you can walk 20m then that means you are not disabled is ridiculous. There should be levels & those who need a bit of help walking or with sight etc should get a bit of money or if the government want to pay directly for their taxi or whatever fine. If a taxi enabled a guy with cerebral palsy to get to & from work without being too knackered to do his job, we should be commending his work ethic, not cutting his taxi money. They should focus on the people who are lying & choosing not to work, not disabled people who are really struggling.
There are more people on benefits due to poor parenting, lack of guidance, no youth clubs etc & social services not telling the parents how to parents better & then following up. Like take your kids to the park for free rather than letting them get wound up staying inside while you sit on your backside watching TV for 12 hours a day. Poorly parented kids have more kids they poorly parents I don't know why the government isn't focusing on that large demographic rather than cutting care for the elderly & disabled.
seems like some people struggle to understand the mental trauma that comes with being homeless. Ending homelessness is more than just getting a job, it will take a long time to mentally adjust to stability, structure, and the slew of things people who have never been homeless can easily just get on with. This trauma means that oftentimes homelessness becomes a vicious cycle.
Police stealing people’s belongings and kicking out of where they live: ‘we’re here to help you’
Bullshit. The state ain't doing shit to help anyone. Council is fucked. Privatisation here we come
yeah because wen they are breaking in someone elses property and damage everything they aren't doing anything wrong ofcourse..
They don't want them on the street and don't want them behind walls. WTF are the homeless meant to do?
first step in fixing our problems is to talk about them. we need more people like Chris
Absolutely
The homeless guy is actually really bright and deserves a job in some type of protest/persuasive job.
He probably lacks social intelligence in recognising the social boundaries of people leading to him stealing from people.
Barrios Groupie Maybe you lack the social intelligence to realise that those buildings are sitting empty and unused when people are dying on the streets.
@@davidulanovsky8943 glad you said it mate, he is a clever man with morals in my eyes
caring for others and not just wanting to get spaced out on what ever drugs they use
I wouldn’t take life lessons seriously off someone with 3 teeth and no eyebrows
Yeah , smart af that’s why he’s homeless
Hope you're warm & safe Chris I haven't seen you in ages.. I've passed time with this man for over 3 years.From outside Sainsburys,gregs,the art gallery you're always a lovely person.
Whilst even me uneducated works hard for a living,dont feel no sympathy for these wasters,blaming the world ,we have to make our own way in the world no sponge off state
@@chrisjones3901 I understand how you feel I graft my nuts off to cover my ends.. It's more complex.. Some folk can't fit in to society for many reasons.. I don't know the answer.. I also can't judge.. I can assure you the guy Chris in this film is lovely.. He sat near my work & we discussed many interesting things. Not once has he asked me for anything or been negative in anyway.. He's a great reader & just sits.. I probably bother him with my questions but he's never rude..He doesn't claim either, he's just a nomad that doesn't cope with the regime..
Chris Jones can’t sponge off the state when you’re homeless. They don’t even have an ID, do you know the hoops it takes to even get on the dole? I’m sure Chris would rather be working and living in a house
Well not according to his brother,or his mum, if he that keen rather than spend his begged money he could pay to stay in a hostel, the amount he had in his hands could easily pay for food ,board and saves money,he wants government money to pay for drugs ,he said it himself it is not his divine right to be looked after,bad choices he makes ,tuff I dont care one shit about him or his blanket friends ,I have been on the bread line with no money to spare and two kids.i put all my mo ey on my kids food and clothes and warm house,did without for myself,hand me down clothes,cheaper food for me,used my brain,survival can be achieved in many different forms,that bloke teeth disgusting through smoking.i managed to get a business going that my chance to work,he says he not want to be told what to do,he could of started his business and none dictates to him,and no it doesn't cost money to set up a business I did it for £200, he makes more than that in two days,he a low life wouldnt waste my piss on him,
@@chrisjones3901 How can you sponge off the state with no address or ID, I await your answer oh wise one.
Sentenced to 8 years, served 1... state of justice in Britain
Was a minor and on good behaviour... And it clearly worked for him despite prison being proven at being ineffective at stopping addiction and reducing violent crime
just a lentil Jails are full to bursting and have been for some time.The mainstream media won’t tell you this it’s the word from the street
Travis Rabble prison should be about reforming not revenge. He was still a kid, born in the wrong part of town, he is a better person now and that is what matters. He didn't kill anyone.
He changed didn't he? He is now an adult and a different person.
He's been sentenced 2 years.
Dont watch this if you have to judge for no good reason that's just a lack of understanding.
Anyone of us can become homeless in a heartbeat, so when you come across a homeless person just help them out a little,, not all are drunk, drug atticks or thieves.. Some that i have met are brutally honest people.
Well said.
I used drugs drink when rough sleeping to get me through I'm 10 yrs clean own place 4 cats my family kids grandchildren by grace God anyone one pay cheque away especially cost living crisis
Exactly ❤
I like him, at least hes making an activist point and looking out for the vulnerable
Yep
all the very best to these people
God Bless you Chris for finding a place for the homless to sleep at night. You give shelter and hope to many, I am sure. Everything that lives must be protected. ^j^
Big respect to Chris the homeless guy hope he gets a big break in life
I grew up on a council estate in south London from the 1960s up until the late 1980s. I can honestly say we had more opportunities then these kids. Still hard but there was more of a family structure. Most of our parents were together for good or bad. This was sad to see.
Nowadays its either your parents are split ir they’re still together and fighting all the time. For me its like that anyway. Loads of my mates dont have dads and shit and then they go and get into trouble. My parents are still together atleast, but they fight loads especially around Christmas and shit. Times are hard mate. All these kids without a mum or a dad spending time out on the streets and getting into trouble.
It’s a vicious circle you can’t get a job without a house and you can’t get a house without a job
Exaclty! Not to mention the hoops to jump thru for both, like references or a stable financial situation etc.
Ellen G I found a job homeless slept near arndale centre for 4 weeks now full time employed own flat your statement's invalid
Lucky guy/girl there are people that can break a cycle but that does not make it invalid thousands of people get trapped in the cycle
Of course you can get a house without a job in the UK lol
and a bank account . companies refuse to give cold hard cash like they did in the noughties.
They need love, like love from a family, and sense of self-worth, and something to look forward to, like a purpose in life. If they do, it is less likely they would turn to drugs. Many homeless told me they drink because they want to forget their pain and despair. This is the best way for them to get numbed even if momentarily.
the UK government is handling this problem poorly to say the least.
Love to see what you lot would do
cluecumber smackheads and thieves should be left to rot. Go away you snowflake.
i don't see how you would get that from what i wrote. it's the government's job to work for all the country's citizens. if you don't take care of those on the bottom, problems will multiply and eventually affect everyone.
Remove 'poorly' and replace with 'purposefully'
cluecumber you don’t understand all the uk government is doing is appeasing the voters (the pensioners).Thats all they have to do to get voted in.The conservatives own all the media BBC itv etc.Fait a compli
(Family with 5 boys): Despite what may seem like a non conservative living. The brothers have a great level of chemistry, which is really great to see. I hope they always remain close to each other.
"im on zero income cause i have no money at the minute"
- Michael Owen
Needs money for the reload.
He says rolling a joint
they are dressed well, arent skinny, which means they are eating just fine, having electronics like smartphone and others, having money to drink and do drugs. where do they get money from, if they arent working??
AndrewProblematic the state obviously
Chris, who is the guy organising the temporary homeless shelters is a hero, such a shame that will never be recognised - an amazing person, doing important stuff, good luck to him
He’s a lazy selfish moron
Chris seems to be the only guy with any sense,he wants to get on and do better for himself. He quite savvy and astute,pity no one will give him a chance.
Zero income while he’s rolling up some green and drinking vodka like.
Nicky Power it’s called generous people giving money
@nevaeh yh but if he stopped that shit he might be able to actually get a job
@nevaehok so he's just lazy asf then, giving stoners a bad name world wide
@@ryhu5642 world wide? Chill lol
@@ryhu5642 idiot
"I'm on zero income cos I got no money coming in at the minute" says the man rolling a spliff haha
what a good heart that guy has, making the shelters and taking in random people every night even though he has nothing, obviously being in a similar situation himself allows his compassion to turn that way, shame everybody can't get a small dose of what it's like to be freezing cold with fuck all and nobody to care for you. I'm sure you would think twice about calling these folk scum, when you could quite easily be in the same boat. open your hearts x
Remember: No war but class war.
Yea its the rich fault
Well said Karl Marx, take a bow son
3:18 drinking from a closed bottle... really dope makes you numb ahahahah
He should have received 4 years for that rap
So he was supposed to do 8'years and only did 1? No wonder they talk about going jail like it's nothing... because it is :/
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Zero income but weed and alcohol
Gotta have something if u have nothing looks like I have had to many pork pies
@@jasminechoo4004 you have had too many pork pies or Peter?
Despite the smiles & bravado, I just see immense sadness..... :(
I’m from the south and I remember going to Manchester for a friends birthday. We were walking to the local and I was wondering why there were so many fabric sheets and covers on the floor. I couldn’t believe it when I found out they were people sleeping. Hundreds of them across the city centre. Obviously this desperation exists everywhere but I’ve never seen it quite like I saw it in Manchester.
Chris for PM! He'd do a far better job than the rest of them. 💯
i met jordan recently, he’s a nice guy
Ah I just started reading the comments to see if anyone knew if he was OK, is he doin any better?
@@lolmac6456 he was on crutches. but he seemed okay in himself, had a chat with him for a while. told him i’d seen the documentary which made him laugh. he was really nice tbh. spot him around deansgate mainly and always say hi when i do
Chris is a hero.
How?!
Man this is heart breaking. I think it's so wrong to criminalize the homeless; not allowing them to squat and putting down spikes to prevent them from sleeping on the streets. Unless the authorities are going to help move them to somewhere better, they shouldn't be going out of their way to make their situation worse. It's not like anyone is using the abandoned buildings or the benches/pavements in the middle of the night so they're not even causing inconvenience. The world belongs to everyone, we share the streets with each other - so why does anyone have the right to stop others such as the homeless utilizing it? It's literally all they have; I'm sure it's not as hard to just tolerate a makeshift bed on the pavement or allow squatters to stay in an empty building than it is for *them* to suffer while finding shelter.
Thank you BBC 3 for making this documentary and the others like it. It is really important.
The guy got 4 separate 2 year sentences but he’s allowed to serve them all at the same time and if he behaves his time is cut in half.
So sentenced to 8 years and serves 1, the justice system and maths don’t mix well by the look of it.
12:45 ‘No. I’m not using.’ Yes you are mate. You can see him thinking about the last time he’s used; he can’t lie convincingly because it’s on his mind. Feel bad for this guy.
Chris is 101% ryt when he says that ppl out there on streets is due to being stiched up by system.i know that from first hand experience.hope he ok,trying to make best of a bullshit situation and a bullshit system!
WE been stitched up every way since thatcher
We definitely need more information and awareness about how benefits cut due to ONE apointment being missed. For an example they can cancel 3 times but they miss ONE appointment and it's just gone with no way of making it easy to get help any time soon.
What else have they got to do but get to their appointments on time. probably sleeping in after a night on God knows what or out robbing some old age pensioner and gun poi t
@@vsculpt But also searching for new place to sleep that night, search for food, you know....SURVIVE. That doesn't mean they don't find the appointment important, it's pure survival mode, first things first
Chris is a good man.
Los Angeles skid row is no joke. Homelessness is all over the US. Very SCARY!
It's a rotten system now ...even pensions which you have paid through working all yr life are called benefits. .how dare they
That is not right but neither is keeping criminals and junkies on benefits!!
Plus mate after paying into the system for over 40 yrs DWP have just informed me that I will not receive my state pension until I am 67yrs and 9 months old and not 65 so instead of it being 4 yrs away it’s now 6 yrs 9 months
Good for him. God bless them. +
Excellent series. This is Britain 2018. We should all be ashamed.
there is enough shame. what we should be doing is helping these people
It's governments fault
@@ab1299 governments fault they steal, smoke weed, do drugs, commit violence? and oh have 6 kids when they cant afford it. Get a grip government is not your babys daddy. Cant feed dont breed.
@@skiddybop780 the government is the one who helps citizens what is the government here for then.
@@ab1299 to provide services and help society. Not pay for people to do nothing. What happens if everyone decides to do what these low lifes do and sit on their arse and not work. Hows the government going to pay for everyone to do nothing?
If your working you are paying taxes for these mugs to sit around and smoke drugs all day and think they are bad arses.
I am upset by Chris. I worked in a Manchester city centre bar that sold cheap pints .Chris came in now and again. One day he came in all perky and ordered several pints of Strongbow because he had found £60 on the streets. This homeless man tipped me a quid each time he bought a pint. Fast forward a week and I saw him selling the Big Issue and I could not buy one as I never carry cash ( seldom had any ) and only took home £180 a week from my bar job and rent came first . I saw the slight expectation in his eyes that I would buy The Big Issue but I couldn't . It was embarrassing . Hope he is ok.
Some people are genuinely struggling. But others receive benefits and play the system. I feel sorry for the genuine people but not for the ones who do have support and due to their cba attitude and the fact they are lazy and choose to put drugs or alcohol into their bodies because they just don't want to work. Others take drugs because something bad has happened and haven't had the appropriate treatment or support to help them.
some people receive benefits cos they are hard up and struggling dumb wit
Whats with the rudeness?...
@@takeonemusic5537 most of them just scum bludgers
@@galegrazutis185 ur the reason why we can't help them out and sort Britain out before it collapses
Ohh man.. this is beyond sad. Everyone just wants to brush them under the carpet like they are dirt. It's so sickenning.
I lived in Manchester City centre for two years, moved away a year ago. Most of them don't want the accommodation when the housing officers come around to give them temp accommodation until they get a council house. They make more money on the streets from tourists and used to piss on our doorstep. We moved as just as spice was becoming a big problem.
"piss on your doorstep" is that a euphemism for sexy time??
Your spot on
The City of Manchester is in a 'COMA'!
God bless these poor souls in horrendous circumstances.. and people need to walk a mile in their shoes before they judge them... #thereforthegraceofgodgoi
Shellter the homeless charity did so research and calculations and found anyone of us bread heads on a salary are ever only couple of pay cheques away from homelessness...
Wow I found a normal person on the internet that's a first 😂
Exactly; someone with a heart. . .They need Jesus is what they need. These commenters are so IGNORANT on all the 'forgotten men' documentaries.. May they all get judged on judgement day is all I can say. NO compassion at all. Well done Shannon Salt; totally agree with you; 'There for the grace of God'. That could be Us.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Not everyone is the same. Yes some people choose that life but not many. It's often a catalogue of things which happen at the wrong times in their lives and even though they can be small things that go wrong, when it continues and you cant always come back from it, you can, through no fault of your own, become unemployed and/or homeless. For the first time, we are seeing people becoming homeless at much later stages of their lives. People who are middle/upper middle classes are now becoming homeless and are on the streets. Something is very wrong with this country and no one seems to care. Well no one in the government anyway. Sadly it's only gonna get worse now universal credit is getting rolled out......
The indigenous people of the uk need to help each other start standing together we need a government that puts its people first stop the foreign aid debacle for a start and get these poor people looked after too many homeless in the uk
God bless that mother... those kids... not even kids they grown.... help yo mother man serious
These people ate so cool!
It’s so sad and it makes me feel like I should go back and give the homeless people I’ve seen like water and food because like it’ll be so hard for them to get themselves together
There scum and have tricked innocent into feeling sorry for them. I work in a job that deals with homeless alot of the time, all the ones ive dealt with have criminal records as long as your arm, from dealing drugs to robbing oap's the deserve to rot.
Holly Buckler they would much prefer some crack cocaine and heroin
Give them food, water, any spare change you have. Remember that most public toilets you now have to pay for. Most homeless people in the street want a safe place like a hostel to go to having enough money for just one night in a warm bed will keep them holding on a little longer.
The cornwrhouse used to be such a great place for art college students to hang out
The art work the cafe and the films It was such a cultural place to hang with friends
That's how I left It there
@bbcthree can you make a playlist for the tunes in this doc? cheers
You can just see me with my blonde dreadlocks 😂 at least they blurred my face
this man is a stand up guy, they deserve so much more,
power to them, those abandoned spaces should be reclaimed and he's a hero for doing what's right and keeping all those other people safe
men like Chris should be running this country not pricks from oxford
Couldn't agree with a statement more. He's intelligent and switched on.
Travesty, pompous, rubber lipped ponces "governing" us.
@@markswoman2134 it's a shame, people dying on our streets that have more humanity and dignity than the evil toffs that let them die
They are trespassing on private property. Man if they spent less on smoking God knows what and drinking and maybe even got a job they could rent somewhere!!?? PARACITES!!!
I love these comments, it shows how easy most of your lives are. Even you lot who claim to have been in. Similar positions yet you cuss these out like you stepped above them.
Crazy. They need to make a big infrastructure project to keep these guys busy.
3:00 She reminds me of the mum in the film Gilbert Grape. Making her son the “man of the house” and burdening her kids to do what she’s meant to as the parent
I've been there. Your Da was a strong man . Gb.
Geez I feel sad for those homeless guys. Thank God for that woman taking care of them.
they're not helping themselves by still drinking and smoking weed yet they claim they have no money
Ro x How would you like it if you were homeless?
Tbh I don't mind marijuana. It's alcohol that's really bad for the people. And all the other man made drugs are bad for the people as well.
Their is a difference between taking care/helping and enabling. I guarantee those boys are still there, still jobless, and still not doing shit to improve their situation.
"Im on zero income"... as i roll a joint and swig some booze lolzzz 😂😂
Probably bashed some poor elderly person for their pension. Or robbed some shopkeeper!
He's drinking from a closed bottle 😂
Feel sorry for the homeless, not for that group of brothers
I respect all of them
Lol
The excuses are endless!!😑😣
in most case, is a mental issue. UK is some of the top Economy in the World, if I was able legaly find a job as a foreigner ( not anymore in the UK) why local guys can do it same. And as far as I know, UK have a good (if not very good) social system, able to help those ``poor`` fellow.... As I said, in most case , those guys have a family issue & and another related issue, as a drog adiction, problem with mental stability, you name it.... I wish those guys, that one day, they will find thenself.
I feel so sorry for Chris because he could've been a model for Calvin Klein.
amigo mac the teeth get me going
Stuart, claims he has no income and no money. Can afford to buy cannabis 😂
It's cheap if you know where to find it and you can't exactly pay for rent with 20p's
And I know I would want something to smoke if I'd been dealt the same hand as them and I know you would too in the same situation no matter how much you deny it to yourself
Delusional you pal.
mysterious yellow creature init
its a cig
I’m at the moment studying in Norwich. Was shocked at first to see how many homeless there were. I was also alarmed how rude and aggressive they are. I’ve been shouted at, told it’s ok for you and your warm bed and sworn at. I have also been there when they’ve been offered a place, only to be told they didn’t want to go as they could not carry on drinking. Only so much you can do for someone. They need to help themselves as well
The council should have turned the cinema into a homeless shelter
They go on about all the working class coming together as a community and helping each other and fighting back but they all rob, kill and hurt each other
Mike Tyson, from the bronx. Said "I love Manchester, its my cind of place"
I feel bad for all homeless people. Especially at winter. I will always give them money when I see them on the streets
The best solution if you are homeless is to get a mountain bike and build a parcel delivery trailer from scrap and deliver flowers, food, parcels etc.
'Got no money'
Rolls spliff.
The northern version of Mc Grindah
I see they have all the things for a trek. I am so jealous. I would have gone out for trek if I had all those things such as sleeping bag, rucksack, tent. Man, these things are costly at least in my country.
How about all the food you need? You can afford that in your country?
Every1 has a story!! Dont judge any1 u dont no there past
GERMALEAN88 G
So right it could happen to
Anybody!! I feel for them so much
My story is in this. If you want to check out any of my other music then head over to my channel. Big respect to everyone showing support ❤️
BlackJackUKOfficial I hope you've used your new found comfort and influence to attempt to make up for what you did in the past. I can imagine you may have ruined some peoples lives by robbing them at gun point
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bubblegummel you will see in the 4th episode of BFM💯 stay tuned
Your dead tho
+The Voice of Reason
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doctors say it , but man, i can tell you, NEVER start & not finish antibiotics. i did , & got antibiotic resistant, i nearly died from a tooth infection from it. i now have a hole in my face, where the infection (luckily) vented out. i was in the hospital for 2 weeks, over a tooth
i'm just sat here thinking 'yep, these chavs at my school's future are actually playing infront of me'
This has not got any better, why is there not a single POC in this whole video
At the end, it all comes down to the education system and competition which is increasing because well-educated people are migrating to western countries which these countries lack.
So they have 20 people in a dilapidated building. What if someone got hurt or died in the building if it collapsed, or caught fire? They or their family would sue the city and say "well why didn't you get them out if the building wasn't safe?".
Lol at first glance of the thumb nail i thought he was Kevin Federline ...i was like oh my!
No, it was just some guy wearing a hat. Come to think of it, Kevin Federline is just some guy wearing a hat.
Being homeless and living on the streets must be incredibly hard, and in winter even worse. Can you imagine it in winter in the uk sleeping in an alleyway ? I do try and have empathy for people, that being said i feel that some people cant cope in a flat or bedsit when they have one, they cant cope paying bills that you have to pay like rent or electric etc, for whatever reason, mental health problems or being anti social they cant cope with the responsibility of paying the bills from their benefits that they must do, and as such they get evicted and end up on the streets. I have lived in a rough flat and claimed unemployment benefits and scraped by but i survived and paid the bills i had to. Although its not a black and white case because i didnt have the terrible upbringing that i imagine some of these homeless people have had. I do think though that living in a bedsit even if it isnt very nice has got to be better than sleeping on the street ? Perhaps some of these guys can go to their local council or housing association to apply for a flat or at least advice on getting a private bedsit if they explain they are sleeping on the street etc ?
I was with him until I saw he has a HTC phone but no photo ID... priorities?
You can buy a phone in Asda. To get photo ID you need a counter signature from a professional, who the fucks going to vouch for any of these people. Also a phone can help you phone others when in trouble, what good is photo ID to someone who has no money?
It's not exactly rocket science to get a provisional driving license
@@emilywilson8289 you need an address for that!
MositCake may be he could use a day center address?
"Manchester, England, England. Land across the sea!" (See "Hair").
I feel for the homeless but they don’t care what anguish they cause for innocent property owners who don’t owe them anything, and have to fight to reclaim their (usually destroyed) property from these squatters. The laws need urgent changing.
D L if the buildings are abandoned i dont see why they shouldnt be allowed stay there
if i had a rundown empty property i would definitely let homeless stay..in fact,i would build it into a homeless shelter and pay the homeless to do it--just have a no drugs and alcohol policy
I'd rather that they where in an abandoned property than out on the streets where all kinds of terrible things happen to the homeless. Also you say you feel for the homeless but you value someone's unused property over their safety so maybe you should reconsider your phrasing or priorities
I don't understand why they vandalise everywhere where they stay.
Aaron Jackson not all do, I saw many occupied houses in Germany well taken care of, specially when the people were allowed to stay, they tried to turn the places into homes.
unfortunately I believe they're all users. in this country if u want help you can get it. go in rehab and then a dry house. the only sacrifice you have to make is to stop using drugs. its sad in my eyes that people would rather live this way than attempt to turn their life around (like I did).
Chris would do well in voice acting.
In the late '80s/early '90s there was the Madchester scene and Oasis. Manchester was the creative city of the world then, just as important as Seattle's grunge scene on popular music. I hope a new music scene will emerge there, and give people some hope again. Also, working class people need to realise that class oppression come from the upper classes and the Conservatives, despite what the Murdoch press says. The friends of the working class are the trade unions and the Labour movement. It's about fighting for basic worker's rights, not obsessing over silly conspiracy theories.
Tough life on the street..you never seem to get a break
His teeth look like ruffles chips if you break them apart
Is there no government agency or charity that helps homeless people in the UK? There are 320,000 homeless in Britain.
The British government does help homeless people.
If you become homeless in the UK, you should either go to your local council, or your local Shelter office.
There's a housing charity called Shelter and the government houses people in hostels, supported accomodation, council houses, housing associations, and private rental market, through a benefit called Housing Benefit where the government pays your rent because you're on a low income.
But many choose to live this way. I know lots.
Dude needs a dentist and a hug really badly.