After watching this video, I researched this model more, and . . . purchased one. The ICON i40L, with Lithium battery, side steps (it has a 6inch lift), onboard 8 speaker stereo, wood grain dash and steering wheel. I love it! I am still getting used to the spring loaded GO pedal, it is very sensitive, and has a learning curve. Anyway, thanks for the extensive review, it was great seeing up underneith . . . still looking for the hydraulic oil resevoir, it has 4-wheel hydraulic disc brakes, must have a small tank somewhere - I am told it may be behind the dash.
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
We have not seen the voyager carts yet. I did look them up. Looks like the cart is the same chassis style as the kandi carts. Also the 65 amp hr battery seems really low for a 4 passenger cart. Other then that looks like a nice cart. Thanks for subscribing appreciate you watching!
@@CartPerformance Appreciate the reply. Was looking into the ICON against the Voyager. Your recommendation would be go with ICON, right? Keep up the great content. 👍🏻
@@mikehood7096 I do like the icon so far it has been proven to be a solid cart. Also icon stands behind their products and dealers. They really try to handle any warranty items as fast as possible. Only can tell you from my experience as we are a dealer for them. Only have had a few issues with the all the carts we sold so far.
Great video I recently bought the Advanced ev model (6 inch lift) which is basically the same as the ICON I was wondering if the lifted model can be lowered about 2 inches which would make it a lot easier to get on and off ..
Currently there is no lowering kits for the lifted carts. This is something i want to explore and find a option for. As for many of the new carts they are frame lifted and not suspension lifted. I have not tried anything but just a thought possibly a shorter coil over spring may bring the ride height down.
We think the biggest issue is the seats currently. Other thing was the pedal response some are really touchy. Also the regen is up high sometimes on them. However that is not much of a issue now that there is software out to adjust all that.
I recently purchased an Evolution Classic 4 Pro. It does not have side or back curtains available. Do you have any recommendations for installing curtains.I o not want over the top.
Icon is the better cart in our opinion. I’m picking brakes and suspension over the lithium battery. The icon feels solid and gives smooth and quite ride. Prefer the icon on overall looks as well.
Great video guys. I have a 2022 icon i40. I bought the navitas controller just to find out the new icons no longer use the Toyota neos and the new controller uses a 35 pin wiring harness. I bought a new harness but can’t get all the wires to match up. Have you guys tried installing navitas on new icon?
We have not. Its on the list to do but seems we get so busy with day to day operations. Have you tried to contact navitas. They may have something in the works already for this issue. What controller is in the cart now?
The brights do not stay on like a car you have to hold it back. Not exactly sure why it was designed this way. All the aftermarket steering wheels have the horn button. They are a universal steering wheel that would work for a car with the right adaptor is why they horn button is there. In the golf cart the design is much simpler than a car. All the wires stay on the steering column. There is nowhere to run the wires to have the horn button work when turning the wheel, the wires would twist and break after time.
I’m looking at i60 and I read all the parts are made in China. I’ve heard horror stories in todays world where Icon controller goes bad and customers are waiting 6 months for a replacement part. Do they not have lots of parts in stock at the dealers and HQ in Tampa? My only hesitation is spending 12K and having something go wrong and it sits in my garage for 6 months waiting for parts.
Yes they do have a lot of parts in stock. Unfortunately this is going to be the same even if you stick with one of the 3 main manufactures. All the stuff mostly comes from China. Icon is selling more units here in the us then ever before. Controllers on the new carts have been changed from a neos controller to a lv tong controller. Same controller that is in a ev titan, advance ev, and a few more carts i cant think of right now.
I still have a little before retirement but am looking at different options for now. IF you get the seats in the back, are they permanent or can you easily swap them out for an area for golf bags?
Its more permanent. However. They have options for utilizing the "kick back rack" on the rear to holster golf bags. While still keeping your 4 seater set up.
I bought a icon i40L indigo blue with blue an black seats lifted kit 12 inch wheels just like the one you have there.there delivering friday .Im excited about it. i hope its a good one .is it a 110 outlit i forgot to ask him.but thanks for showing this on here.thanks guys.
i`m sorry but how could icon allow a cart to leave their factory with clearly different seat covers. tells me there is no quality control, which tells me all i need to know
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
Seems quality control doesn't realize you Don't charge AGM batteries with Flooded battery algorithms either.. Just take off work to get it to a dealer and "if" there is a problem.. we'll cover "that" cost of updating the charger.. Let's just say Icon and I are not on the best of terms with my new cart purchase right now. Flooded battery charge cycle with AGM batteries seems to be a MAJOR issue for them right now.
@@benjaminperkins9649 time will tell. Has the capability to go faster, though reliability is the question. Plus they come out of the Tampa factory 19mph, so the bigger equipment doesn’t really matter
@@noahboock whoa bro? 19mph? That isn't what we do in Arizona and all of our icon carts go 25mph standard! Check with your dealer. We have agm batteries now as standard in some locations and always an option, but the agm batteries with the new 450amp controller make icon carts glide brother! The new 450 controller is standard now on all icon vehicles 💯
DO NOT buy one of the ICON CARTS!!!! THEIR customer service is horrible. Once you are out the door you are on your own!! And impossible to get anyone to help!!! BEWARE Batteries are worthless...sure three year warranty but you pay labor if you can get them to agree to pay for parts...again BEWARE!!! Terrible!!!
Sorry you are having issues with icon. Can not say we have had the same experience with them so far. We are a dealer for them so far on any warranty claim they have not denied anything we have submitted. You are correct it is only a parts warranty. I would suggest going back to the dealer you purchased from. You can also reach out to me and i will help you if i can bmcgolfcarts@gmail.com
Icon has the best warranty on there cars even if the customer dose not do there routine maintenance on the power train parts they will cover it as long as it’s fully intact it can take a few weeks for the turn around some times
The cart is brand new and if you have trouble with the batteries when they are new...LOOK OUT. ICON does NOT stand behind them!! You have fight them for every little fix even though they admitted they are BAD. Just not a good customer service experience over the first year of being an ICON Owner. I WOULD NOT recommend anyone to buy one because of the issues we have had!!@@Stingyduce
Best Icon video out there! Appreciate the video.
Thank you we appreciate the watch!
Been thinking about getting the icon i40L thank you for the video really helped make my choice!
Great review! Thanks for the video!
After watching this video, I researched this model more, and . . . purchased one. The ICON i40L, with Lithium battery, side steps (it has a 6inch lift), onboard 8 speaker stereo, wood grain dash and steering wheel. I love it! I am still getting used to the spring loaded GO pedal, it is very sensitive, and has a learning curve.
Anyway, thanks for the extensive review, it was great seeing up underneith . . . still looking for the hydraulic oil resevoir, it has 4-wheel hydraulic disc brakes, must have a small tank somewhere - I am told it may be behind the dash.
How much extra was it to upgrade the motor and controller?
It may sound like I'm being picky, but the way that key sticks out, will be a hazard to a knee or get broken off by a knee.
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
Great carts… but what about a trailer hitch receiver? Is there one that would work best?
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
Been looking at the Voyager Pioneer. Do you guys have any insights/reviews on this cart? New subscriber, appreciate your content. 👍🏻
We have not seen the voyager carts yet. I did look them up. Looks like the cart is the same chassis style as the kandi carts. Also the 65 amp hr battery seems really low for a 4 passenger cart. Other then that looks like a nice cart. Thanks for subscribing appreciate you watching!
@@CartPerformance Appreciate the reply. Was looking into the ICON against the Voyager. Your recommendation would be go with ICON, right? Keep up the great content. 👍🏻
@@mikehood7096 I do like the icon so far it has been proven to be a solid cart. Also icon stands behind their products and dealers. They really try to handle any warranty items as fast as possible. Only can tell you from my experience as we are a dealer for them. Only have had a few issues with the all the carts we sold so far.
@@CartPerformance Thank you for your time.
Great video I recently bought the Advanced ev model (6 inch lift) which is basically the same as the ICON I was wondering if the lifted model can be lowered about 2 inches which would make it a lot easier to get on and off ..
Currently there is no lowering kits for the lifted carts. This is something i want to explore and find a option for. As for many of the new carts they are frame lifted and not suspension lifted. I have not tried anything but just a thought possibly a shorter coil over spring may bring the ride height down.
In the video you guys mentioned that you liked it for the most part. What if any changes were you referring to?
We think the biggest issue is the seats currently. Other thing was the pedal response some are really touchy. Also the regen is up high sometimes on them. However that is not much of a issue now that there is software out to adjust all that.
@@CartPerformance I must have missed that specific part, what don't you care for with the seats? Uncomfortable?
Great carts… what about a trailer receiver? Is there one that would fit best?
Yes if you join the icon golf cart owners page on facebook and search for Matt Montgomery. He is making hitches for these carts.
Looks like a panhard bar you would put on a straight axle rear end.
I recently purchased an Evolution Classic 4 Pro. It does not have side or back curtains available. Do you have any recommendations for installing curtains.I o not want over the top.
Bob i do not know of any covers for the evolution classic 4 pro. Over the top covers may be the only option at this time. Or having one custom made.
Which would you prefer between the Icon and Evolution?
Icon is the better cart in our opinion. I’m picking brakes and suspension over the lithium battery. The icon feels solid and gives smooth and quite ride. Prefer the icon on overall looks as well.
Great video guys. I have a 2022 icon i40. I bought the navitas controller just to find out the new icons no longer use the Toyota neos and the new controller uses a 35 pin wiring harness. I bought a new harness but can’t get all the wires to match up. Have you guys tried installing navitas on new icon?
We have not. Its on the list to do but seems we get so busy with day to day operations. Have you tried to contact navitas. They may have something in the works already for this issue. What controller is in the cart now?
What does the new controller give you?
Do the brights stay on like a car? Also, why does the steering wheel have a horn like button in the middle but the horn is on the lights controller?
The brights do not stay on like a car you have to hold it back. Not exactly sure why it was designed this way. All the aftermarket steering wheels have the horn button. They are a universal steering wheel that would work for a car with the right adaptor is why they horn button is there. In the golf cart the design is much simpler than a car. All the wires stay on the steering column. There is nowhere to run the wires to have the horn button work when turning the wheel, the wires would twist and break after time.
I’m looking at i60 and I read all the parts are made in China. I’ve heard horror stories in todays world where Icon controller goes bad and customers are waiting 6 months for a replacement part.
Do they not have lots of parts in stock at the dealers and HQ in Tampa? My only hesitation is spending 12K and having something go wrong and it sits in my garage for 6 months waiting for parts.
Yes they do have a lot of parts in stock. Unfortunately this is going to be the same even if you stick with one of the 3 main manufactures. All the stuff mostly comes from China.
Icon is selling more units here in the us then ever before. Controllers on the new carts have been changed from a neos controller to a lv tong controller. Same controller that is in a ev titan, advance ev, and a few more carts i cant think of right now.
@@CartPerformance I bought an i60L and loving it so far. Thanks!
why would they send a cart with 2 seat colors? quality control? how fast does this go?
I thought the same thing. Maybe the guy that installed it was drunk that day but how does no one else at Icon notice that before shipping? Jeez!!
Color blind? Guy went to lunch. Color blind guy finished the seat install.
Do you know where I can find info on the cruise cart kudo golf cart
I still have a little before retirement but am looking at different options for now. IF you get the seats in the back, are they permanent or can you easily swap them out for an area for golf bags?
Its more permanent. However. They have options for utilizing the "kick back rack" on the rear to holster golf bags. While still keeping your 4 seater set up.
I bought a icon i40L indigo blue with blue an black seats lifted kit 12 inch wheels just like the one you have there.there delivering friday .Im excited about it. i hope its a good one .is it a 110 outlit i forgot to ask him.but thanks for showing this on here.thanks guys.
mine cost me $10,500 i drove it at
the icon lot it was fast as hell..great driving guys.
Awesome! Tomorrow you should be riding that awesome cart. Yes the outlet is 110 and will plug into a regular outlet no problem.
@@bobnjeffsilvers5811 Enjoy that cart thanks!
@@CartPerformance How can i get it to go faster than 25 .
@@bobnjeffsilvers5811 You have to go to a dealer. They should have the computer to turn the controller up.
Are the lights on even if your switch is off
No, they turn off
@@marlene619. how ,I turned the knob every way no luck
@@skeim5620 oh I meant if vehicle is off, key removed. Yes running lights are always on
Sold on icon
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It is Available here in the Philippines Sir?
And how much this golf car Sir.
How much would a 2021 Icon I40L cost me from a private seller?
Somewhere 11800-13500 depending on shipping id estimate
i`m sorry but how could icon allow a cart to leave their factory with clearly different seat covers. tells me there is no quality control, which tells me all i need to know
I'm going to my local Golf cart dealer later today. The Evolutions there seemed nice. I don't need the backup camera or the stereo though, I will ask if the have Icon or Royal instead have just a gutted model no fancy stuff, just lithium battery, lights, turning signals . I'm wanting to attach my cargo cart in a back trailer hitch... any ideas on a newer release for a tough golf cart almost a utility golf cart? Thanks
Seems quality control doesn't realize you Don't charge AGM batteries with Flooded battery algorithms either.. Just take off work to get it to a dealer and "if" there is a problem.. we'll cover "that" cost of updating the charger.. Let's just say Icon and I are not on the best of terms with my new cart purchase right now. Flooded battery charge cycle with AGM batteries seems to be a MAJOR issue for them right now.
How come y’all never drove it 😂
We do there is another video of the driving test. ruclips.net/video/p6XYBA9lS4A/видео.html
The 2022’s come with the new controller and motor. No way to get the Toyota motor and vice versa
better or worse?
@@benjaminperkins9649 time will tell. Has the capability to go faster, though reliability is the question. Plus they come out of the Tampa factory 19mph, so the bigger equipment doesn’t really matter
Thanks for the info. I believe they are all now coming with agm batteries as well.
@@noahboock whoa bro? 19mph? That isn't what we do in Arizona and all of our icon carts go 25mph standard! Check with your dealer. We have agm batteries now as standard in some locations and always an option, but the agm batteries with the new 450amp controller make icon carts glide brother! The new 450 controller is standard now on all icon vehicles 💯
Alibaba sell this for 2k
shipping is 10k tho
How mutch
DO NOT buy one of the ICON CARTS!!!! THEIR customer service is horrible. Once you are out the door you are on your own!! And impossible to get anyone to help!!! BEWARE Batteries are worthless...sure three year warranty but you pay labor if you can get them to agree to pay for parts...again BEWARE!!! Terrible!!!
Sorry you are having issues with icon. Can not say we have had the same experience with them so far. We are a dealer for them so far on any warranty claim they have not denied anything we have submitted. You are correct it is only a parts warranty. I would suggest going back to the dealer you purchased from. You can also reach out to me and i will help you if i can bmcgolfcarts@gmail.com
Icon has the best warranty on there cars even if the customer dose not do there routine maintenance on the power train parts they will cover it as long as it’s fully intact it can take a few weeks for the turn around some times
The cart is brand new and if you have trouble with the batteries when they are new...LOOK OUT. ICON does NOT stand behind them!! You have fight them for every little fix even though they admitted they are BAD. Just not a good customer service experience over the first year of being an ICON Owner. I WOULD NOT recommend anyone to buy one because of the issues we have had!!@@Stingyduce