Purchased the Evolution D5. Comes with large screen with bluetooth sound system with soundbar. Back up camera Front and back bucket leather seats with armrests and seat belts. Completely street ready with Led low and high beams. Turn signals, mirrors 4 cup holders. Full roof. Fancy large custom wheels and tires. Rear brake light with storage compartment in rear of vehicle. 2 year warranty. 5 year Lithium Battery. Top speed 35mph with 35 mile range. Have driven 6 miles and it still has 90 percent battery remaining. The cart has got it all. I chose the 36 month zero financing and paid 12,000. Sapphire Black with black leather interior. Comes with 2 keyfabs. Took it out in traffic and she runs like a car. License and tags cheaper than a personal vehicle. It awesome.
That's good to hear. I have yet to see the new D5 Model. Please Please Please. If you have a chance. At you're earliest convenience after riding this cart around for maybe 1k-5k miles. Let me know what you think. Id like to hear an honest opinion. 2 Dealers closest to me have stopped selling them. Its to hard to get warrantied parts and things do go wrong(not claiming on you're model). I also know another dealer that had a 80% return rate on their 2020 models. He had 100k of broken carts in his lot. Trust me when I say they were all over evolution. Personally I've really taken a liking to the ATLAS cart.
Sounds just like my cart and I have had no problems at all out of my cart. However I did contact Kustom carts our dealer and they say they have had an excellent 4 year relationship with EVO and no problem getting parts. Now maybe that's just the Houston area I don't know but I've had a good relationship with my dealership and do not believe they're lying to me.
Triple the cup holders, better battery, it has the storage/cooler. I don’t care if the icon brakes better or has high beems . The new carts have the LED touch screen. Evolution wins hands down
Everyone i know hates their evolution. A local shop says their return rate is like 70-80%. Nobody can get parts when they break😂Did you buy youreself an evolution Steven?
I am so excited to get my Icon soon!!! Going with the Lithium option they provide now! I think it's the perfect cart financially, aesthetically, and functionally for the community driving I'll be doing with it.
I've had both carts turned in my icon for an evolution last year with the built-in stereo system and MP3 player and I can tell you it's a much better cart than my icon ever was. To each their own I suppose. But as an end user I would tell you buy EVO.
We purchased our 2022 ICON i60L last year in the dark red color and absolutely love it! We had it custom made with added bigger wheels, sound bar, armrest, and it’s lifted. Our cart is definitely a show stopper at our neighborhood. Always getting starred at and people asking where we bought ours!
I've got an I60L in the mail now.. (Michigan to Oklahoma) ..I'll upgrade it to lithium when the AGM's give it up.. Hoping about 5 years down the road and "maybe" the system will even be a little less expensive at that point.
Heys guys, nice vid. I gave you a sub. I just got the 2024 Evolution Classic 4 Plus. My reasoning: I am a female not into mechanicals, so I wanted the lithium battery. I also wanted the storage compartment because I live near the beach here in Hawaii and can take the cart right down to it with my beach gear, parking under the trees. Most importantly, I wanted new and cheap. These suckers cost double what they do on the mainland. I see they go for 6 or 7 K on mainland? Here, they are 13.5K Your braking demo was important. I will reduce my speed for safety. I looked under the thing, no hanging electrical. The new touchscreen is pretty cool.
It depends on what you want. The Evolution is $4k cheaper ($7000 currently), has Lithium battery, more power, more options(newer ones have 9" infotainment screen/rear camera/speakers, 0% financing, looks better..... but isnt built as tough and doesnt brake as fast. Icon probably has better dealer support.
@@CartPerformance I’m buying a used 2010 Club Car and the owner installed a 48v Evolution lithium battery in 2022. I was wondering if that should last me at the very minimum a few years before I have to install a “better” brand.
Trading in my forester for a D5 maverick purely cause of the lack of support on the rear step. I've had to replace the step twice due to the weight of a golf bag holder
Why didn't you put the icon up against the evolution classic plus.. since you want to call evolution cheap. I have a Evolution forester 4 plus.. what I got standard it would of cost nearly 6k more with icon. There are ways to stop the squeaking from the windshield. Also with Evolution, you can adjust braking, take off speed, over end speed also with a computer.. Evolution, 2 yr bumper to bumper warranty, 5 year on the lithium battery, lifetime warranty on the chassis. What does icon have?
We didn't have one. 3 yr bumper to bumper for the icon. 8 year pro-rated for the icon. You can also adjust all the same settings on the Icon. As for adjusting braking. Locking up the rear tire won't help much. The evolution is a squeaky banana. We called it how we saw it. Im sure the Forester Plus is a much better model than this and I will work to get another evolution in a more premium model.
Defiantly something that has been on my mind. Club car has not changed anything on these new carts to adapt to the new market. You get way more cart with a Icon for your dollar than a club car.
I just bought a new 2023 Evolution Classic 4 Pro. I admit that the Icon is a heavier vehicle and the hydraulic brakes are a nice to have, but I believe that for $9000, the Evolution with a Lithium ion battery is a better bang for your buck than the Icon. Not only does it come with a 5 year warranty on a Lithium battery (life span 8 -12 years) but it is a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery which is the same type of battery that Tesla has upgraded and are installing in their new standard range cars. Also, your comments about no zip ties on the electrical wiring are far reaching and really insignificant. If I wanted a heavier, less efficient, older technology golf cart, I still would not have bought an Icon.
Thank you for youre opinion it is appreciated! However a friend i know who owns a shop in Florida claims an astonishing 80% return rate on the evolution cart. He has always had problems getting anything warrantied thru Evolution(he is a dealer and moves many units). Do some Google searches to read some other customer reviews on reddit and such. You get what you pay for. You went cheap.
@@phild1160 If you knew what i know about evolution you would not want to spread a good word about their carts. I have emails for over 6 months trying to get peoples carts fixed. I wish all the best with evolution and hope they have a good experience. I just can't sell a cart with no support. I am also giving my honest opinion on how i feel about the quality of the cart. In my opinion the icon is the better cart.
Did you guys manipulate an Evolution Classic Pro? The Classic Pro only has a 4kw AC motor, it's the Classic Plus that has the 6.3kw AC motor. The Plus also has the touchscreen with back up camera and bluetooth sound system. Price wise, the Classic Plus is the same as the Icon I40 with the additonal features. The Classic Pro that it appears you are showing in the video is about $1,000 less than the Icon I40.
Yep your totally right. Just no manipulation. Just a fumble with words from my associate there. The other cart we reviewed had the 6.3 kw AC motor. However. We do believe this is all limited to the controller size anyways.
Steering geometry on the evolution is a bit wonky, controllers have been a problem in our neighborhood. So, I bought the ICON. I really like it after a year with it. I have a club car precedent as well. The ICON is better in some things
not that I'm protecting Evo, but I do believe the Evo w/ LSV package has 4 wheel brakes. Also the Evo tested in a Pro version not a Plus version. Just saying......
You are correct it was a pro and we said the specs of the plus. There are a few differences between the two models. The first review we did was on the plus model. You are correct about the lsv package coming with 4 wheel disc brakes I just looked at their website. The biggest issue with this cart is dealer support with aftersales. I have talked to many dealers all having the same issue with support. Now of course every dealer has a different story. The average having more issues than not with them. I have also have personal experience with evolution on the dealer side trying to get problems solved and it was a horrible experience. I wouldn't sell this cart to anyone knowing what i went through just trying to get a battery fixed. I am not bashing them just not a fit for me.
Icon (LVTONG) no.1 Aoxiang no.2 Evolution (HDK) no.3 We're Aoxiang, we don't build brands, we make nice golf carts and parts for American customers only for nearly20 years.
Well.... after watching your side by side, I would have rather purchased an ICON than the Evolution. I didn't realize how much better built the ICON was over the Evolution! And yes, I would have sacrificed the lithium battery for the no maintenance batteries.
Nothing in this video is relevant other than comparing the braking systems. Everything top speed, acceleration, motor regen, cart squeaks and even the windshield depends on the dealership. (Evos are shipped with a non DOT windshield that need to be swapped out by dealers.) My 2021 non lifted Evo with curtis controller and 130 lithium has a 38mph top speed and has virtually replaced my car as a daily driver.
@@CartPerformance I had my icon for one year and one month to the day. Really didn't have too many problems with it. Noticed a little lack in the battery perfomance towards the end before I sold it.(743miles) Purchased a new 2023 Evolution D5 Ranger 4. I've had it a week and I am loving it. No issues so far.
Has anyone heard of the Elite-EV? Supposed to be manufactured/assembled in Florida - and I was told it’s the same as the ICON. Anyone heard of these? Can’t find much online. Local dealer says it’s a rebadged icon and better than the evolution.
Evolution definitely the best looking cart plus better battery the only thing for the icon is the brakes but it’s an ugly cart it looks like one of those cartoon in the movie cars 🤢🤮
@@CartPerformance Yamaha and EZGO primarily, Polaris, Garia and Tomberlin etc over the last 20 years, though most of them leave a lot to be desired when it comes to parts and service infrastructure. Which is also why we don't typically stock any of the asian copycat cars.
Have you considered investing in $40 Wireless Mics so your audio is actually tolerable and does not drop out? This could have been a killer video. Sadly disappointed.
Try to find parts, service literature, wiring diagrams, nothing you are married to the dealer, just china junk, take a close look at what a dealer will give you for a replacement parts list its a joke, while i have assembled over 60 of these they are well built but its the parts and service PROBLEM AFTER BUYING TRY TO FIND PARTS AND SERVICE LITERATURE NOTHING OUT THERE
Purchased the Evolution D5. Comes with large screen with bluetooth sound system with soundbar. Back up camera Front and back bucket leather seats with armrests and seat belts. Completely street ready with Led low and high beams. Turn signals, mirrors 4 cup holders. Full roof. Fancy large custom wheels and tires. Rear brake light with storage compartment in rear of vehicle. 2 year warranty. 5 year Lithium Battery. Top speed 35mph with 35 mile range. Have driven 6 miles and it still has 90 percent battery remaining. The cart has got it all. I chose the 36 month zero financing and paid 12,000. Sapphire Black with black leather interior. Comes with 2 keyfabs. Took it out in traffic and she runs like a car. License and tags cheaper than a personal vehicle. It awesome.
That's good to hear. I have yet to see the new D5 Model. Please Please Please. If you have a chance. At you're earliest convenience after riding this cart around for maybe 1k-5k miles. Let me know what you think. Id like to hear an honest opinion. 2 Dealers closest to me have stopped selling them. Its to hard to get warrantied parts and things do go wrong(not claiming on you're model). I also know another dealer that had a 80% return rate on their 2020 models. He had 100k of broken carts in his lot. Trust me when I say they were all over evolution. Personally I've really taken a liking to the ATLAS cart.
until YOU TRY TO REPAIR HA HA HA
Sounds just like my cart and I have had no problems at all out of my cart. However I did contact Kustom carts our dealer and they say they have had an excellent 4 year relationship with EVO and no problem getting parts. Now maybe that's just the Houston area I don't know but I've had a good relationship with my dealership and do not believe they're lying to me.
How much did you have to pay to get license and tags?
Triple the cup holders, better battery, it has the storage/cooler. I don’t care if the icon brakes better or has high beems . The new carts have the LED touch screen. Evolution wins hands down
Everyone i know hates their evolution. A local shop says their return rate is like 70-80%. Nobody can get parts when they break😂Did you buy youreself an evolution Steven?
Chinesium
@@scottd730hi. What part of the country do you live in?
The new icon i40 and up are
I have a 2024 Evolution the same color but it has a touch screen and back-up camera. I love it
I am so excited to get my Icon soon!!! Going with the Lithium option they provide now! I think it's the perfect cart financially, aesthetically, and functionally for the community driving I'll be doing with it.
I've had both carts turned in my icon for an evolution last year with the built-in stereo system and MP3 player and I can tell you it's a much better cart than my icon ever was. To each their own I suppose. But as an end user I would tell you buy EVO.
I use my EVolution to cruise around the neighborhood I love it
Good to know appreciate the feedback!
We purchased our 2022 ICON i60L last year in the dark red color and absolutely love it! We had it custom made with added bigger wheels, sound bar, armrest, and it’s lifted. Our cart is definitely a show stopper at our neighborhood. Always getting starred at and people asking where we bought ours!
I think the icon has the better brake system, but the evolution definitely looks better
Very fair. Thank you for youre opinion!
What?!?! The evolution is butt ugly!
Evo looks nicer, and lithium sounds like the way to go
Thanks for this video. Very good information and very helpful. I appreciate seeing both side by side.
Thanks Mike! We are glad the video helped. The carts are changing and we wanted to highlight some differences good or bad. Thanks for watching.
Just bought a 2024 evolution... flaminco red and it's amazing!!!!!
A year later, and the 2024 D5 has been substantially redesigned and improved in every category. It blows the icon out of the water.
How is there service and parts?
@@CartPerformance that's the main question for a lot of the chinese carts.. Service/Parts and long term reliability and resale value
All these carts should be running with lithium batteries and a solar panel as a roof by now.
Thats Fair!
Just bought the evolution 4 plus I’m so impressed with it 😍😍😍😍😎😎😎😎
I've got an I60L in the mail now.. (Michigan to Oklahoma) ..I'll upgrade it to lithium when the AGM's give it up.. Hoping about 5 years down the road and "maybe" the system will even be a little less expensive at that point.
Haha, nothing gets cheaper.
Nice!
@@bigtillyea don’t expect it to be cheaper that not how that works good wishful thinking
Heys guys, nice vid. I gave you a sub. I just got the 2024 Evolution Classic 4 Plus. My reasoning: I am a female not into mechanicals, so I wanted the lithium battery. I also wanted the storage compartment because I live near the beach here in Hawaii and can take the cart right down to it with my beach gear, parking under the trees. Most importantly, I wanted new and cheap. These suckers cost double what they do on the mainland. I see they go for 6 or 7 K on mainland? Here, they are 13.5K Your braking demo was important. I will reduce my speed for safety. I looked under the thing, no hanging electrical. The new touchscreen is pretty cool.
It depends on what you want. The Evolution is $4k cheaper ($7000 currently), has Lithium battery, more power, more options(newer ones have 9" infotainment screen/rear camera/speakers, 0% financing, looks better..... but isnt built as tough and doesnt brake as fast. Icon probably has better dealer support.
Fair enough. You get what you pay for. The icon has gone down in price as well.
What are your thoughts on Evolution lithium battery packs as a stand alone addition to another golf cart?
There are better options out there when i comes to batteries. Eco, Allied, Bolt all good companies that stand behind their products.
@@CartPerformance I’m buying a used 2010 Club Car and the owner installed a 48v Evolution lithium battery in 2022. I was wondering if that should last me at the very minimum a few years before I have to install a “better” brand.
A year later and Evolution has pretty much kicked Icon to the curb.
Plan on buying an Icon this Saturday. I'll upgrade to lithium when the AGM's give up the ghost. Thanks for the review.
The D5 addresses most of your concerns here I will pick Lith battery all day long. Evo!
Just bought the evolution D5 Maverick best golf cart on the market for 10k hands-down.
Please keep us up to date! We would love to hear how it works out for you!
4 wheel disk brakes matter!
Disk brake problems with a lot of the L60 making a rubbing noise
Interesting. Tell us more? What happened?
Trading in my forester for a D5 maverick purely cause of the lack of support on the rear step. I've had to replace the step twice due to the weight of a golf bag holder
@@robbroxton8312 Take a look at the epic e40fx. We will have a video on them soon.
Why didn't you put the icon up against the evolution classic plus.. since you want to call evolution cheap. I have a Evolution forester 4 plus.. what I got standard it would of cost nearly 6k more with icon. There are ways to stop the squeaking from the windshield. Also with Evolution, you can adjust braking, take off speed, over end speed also with a computer..
Evolution, 2 yr bumper to bumper warranty, 5 year on the lithium battery, lifetime warranty on the chassis. What does icon have?
We didn't have one. 3 yr bumper to bumper for the icon. 8 year pro-rated for the icon. You can also adjust all the same settings on the Icon. As for adjusting braking. Locking up the rear tire won't help much. The evolution is a squeaky banana. We called it how we saw it. Im sure the Forester Plus is a much better model than this and I will work to get another evolution in a more premium model.
@@CartPerformancesqueaky banana 🤣🤣🤣🤣 we appreciate the truth
What about an Icon vs Club Cart battle? I know the club cart price is outrageous though I'm wondering if it's that much, if any, better?
Defiantly something that has been on my mind. Club car has not changed anything on these new carts to adapt to the new market. You get way more cart with a Icon for your dollar than a club car.
I just bought a new 2023 Evolution Classic 4 Pro. I admit that the Icon is a heavier vehicle and the hydraulic brakes are a nice to have, but I believe that for $9000, the Evolution with a Lithium ion battery is a better bang for your buck than the Icon. Not only does it come with a 5 year warranty on a Lithium battery (life span 8 -12 years) but it is a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery which is the same type of battery that Tesla has upgraded and are installing in their new standard range cars. Also, your comments about no zip ties on the electrical wiring are far reaching and really insignificant. If I wanted a heavier, less efficient, older technology golf cart, I still would not have bought an Icon.
Thank you for youre opinion it is appreciated! However a friend i know who owns a shop in Florida claims an astonishing 80% return rate on the evolution cart. He has always had problems getting anything warrantied thru Evolution(he is a dealer and moves many units). Do some Google searches to read some other customer reviews on reddit and such. You get what you pay for. You went cheap.
😢 seems like the creators of the video are pretty bias toward the icon
@@phild1160 If you knew what i know about evolution you would not want to spread a good word about their carts. I have emails for over 6 months trying to get peoples carts fixed. I wish all the best with evolution and hope they have a good experience. I just can't sell a cart with no support. I am also giving my honest opinion on how i feel about the quality of the cart. In my opinion the icon is the better cart.
how about vs an Onward?
Did you guys manipulate an Evolution Classic Pro? The Classic Pro only has a 4kw AC motor, it's the Classic Plus that has the 6.3kw AC motor. The Plus also has the touchscreen with back up camera and bluetooth sound system. Price wise, the Classic Plus is the same as the Icon I40 with the additonal features. The Classic Pro that it appears you are showing in the video is about $1,000 less than the Icon I40.
Yep your totally right. Just no manipulation. Just a fumble with words from my associate there. The other cart we reviewed had the 6.3 kw AC motor. However. We do believe this is all limited to the controller size anyways.
ICON is a better choice! That's why I bought one. Do your research. The Toyota motor is one of the best in the ICON.
Totally agree!
2022 icon and newer does not use a Toyota controller or motor anymore
Steering geometry on the evolution is a bit wonky, controllers have been a problem in our neighborhood. So, I bought the ICON. I really like it after a year with it. I have a club car precedent as well. The ICON is better in some things
not that I'm protecting Evo, but I do believe the Evo w/ LSV package has 4 wheel brakes.
Also the Evo tested in a Pro version not a Plus version. Just saying......
You are correct it was a pro and we said the specs of the plus. There are a few differences between the two models. The first review we did was on the plus model. You are correct about the lsv package coming with 4 wheel disc brakes I just looked at their website. The biggest issue with this cart is dealer support with aftersales. I have talked to many dealers all having the same issue with support. Now of course every dealer has a different story. The average having more issues than not with them. I have also have personal experience with evolution on the dealer side trying to get problems solved and it was a horrible experience. I wouldn't sell this cart to anyone knowing what i went through just trying to get a battery fixed. I am not bashing them just not a fit for me.
My ICON came from the dealer running 32 MPH. Brakes are the best I've seen in any cart.
1-2" Spacers are a must! Check out cartperformanceparts . com! We put some accessories up there for the icon!
Just ordered the ICON.
Everything I have heard is positive….will let you know later
Please do! We always want to hear insight from other parties. I think you made a good choice. What color and model?
any update on this?
Tesla and Evo owner here. WTF are these brakes you speak of!?!?
I saw the icon being sold in costco. They look sharp.
One of the better looking carts in my opinion to bud! Thanks for you're input
Where do you live? Costco doesn’t sell the Icon in St Louis.
The Red one
But the price difference is?
You failed to mention the rear suspension. Icon has coil over shocks vs leaf spring.
Were buying a new evolution c4 plus, it comes with 4wheel hydraulic disc brakes. Seems like this video is biased
Review the EVolution D3 !!
In the works! Thanks for asking!
Icon (LVTONG) no.1
Aoxiang no.2
Evolution (HDK) no.3
We're Aoxiang, we don't build brands, we make nice golf carts and parts for American customers only for nearly20 years.
👎 cheap Chinese 💩 ripping off Americans
Plus the lithium puts led acid to rest
True!
Well.... after watching your side by side, I would have rather purchased an ICON than the Evolution. I didn't realize how much better built the ICON was over the Evolution! And yes, I would have sacrificed the lithium battery for the no maintenance batteries.
I would have to agree
Just purchased the I40L but had the dealer add the lithium. Win Win!
Wow nice! If you dont mind? What did it all cost? What Lithium battery did you go with?
My icon has 1500 miles with zero issues you can also tune the icons mine will throw people off the back on take off
Icon is the clear winner.
I would have to agree!
Thanks for the video
About to buy an Icon for $10,500 2023
Let us know how you like it and if you have any problems!
Nothing in this video is relevant other than comparing the braking systems. Everything top speed, acceleration, motor regen, cart squeaks and even the windshield depends on the dealership. (Evos are shipped with a non DOT windshield that need to be swapped out by dealers.) My 2021 non lifted Evo with curtis controller and 130 lithium has a 38mph top speed and has virtually replaced my car as a daily driver.
Icon all day long. love mine!
Give us the one month update! Any issues?
@@CartPerformance I had my icon for one year and one month to the day. Really didn't have too many problems with it. Noticed a little lack in the battery perfomance towards the end before I sold it.(743miles)
Purchased a new 2023 Evolution D5 Ranger 4. I've had it a week and I am loving it. No issues so far.
I wouldn’t give an evolution to my worst enemy lol biggest POS in the industry
LMAO This is the funniest comment for sure XD
Has anyone heard of the Elite-EV? Supposed to be manufactured/assembled in Florida - and I was told it’s the same as the ICON.
Anyone heard of these? Can’t find much online. Local dealer says it’s a rebadged icon and better than the evolution.
Im not sure on this cart brand. Please tell us more? could you be mistaken with Advanced EV?
Good luck getting support, parts and technical assistance from Evolution. Buy the Icon!
It's clear you favor the ICON so a biased review
Duh it's a better cart
Harber Loop
Evolution definitely the best looking cart plus better battery the only thing for the icon is the brakes but it’s an ugly cart it looks like one of those cartoon in the movie cars 🤢🤮
The icon is ugly! Evolution looks better!
Premier golf car brands is a stretch
Fair enough. What are your premier golf cart brands?
@@CartPerformance Yamaha and EZGO primarily, Polaris, Garia and Tomberlin etc over the last 20 years, though most of them leave a lot to be desired when it comes to parts and service infrastructure. Which is also why we don't typically stock any of the asian copycat cars.
Same guys talking crap about evolution trying to have 3 grown big me. Go up a bill and building no momentum on rocks with street tires lol
Not really sure what you are saying bud!
Have you considered investing in $40 Wireless Mics so your audio is actually tolerable and does not drop out? This could have been a killer video. Sadly disappointed.
New audio is purchased! We aint rich! Mouths to feed/Carts to charge!
Eco looks a LOT nicer
Try to find parts, service literature, wiring diagrams, nothing you are married to the dealer, just china junk, take a close look at what a dealer will give you for a replacement parts list its a joke, while i have assembled over 60 of these they are well built but its the parts and service PROBLEM AFTER BUYING TRY TO FIND PARTS AND SERVICE LITERATURE NOTHING OUT THERE
Ya those ezgo"s are trash
" Built over 60 of these" of these what? Icon or Evolution?
@@stevedaniels3064both no parts or service information still married to the dealer
The people that buy these are the same that bought yugos
Your option sucks!
Sure can what year?