J. Krishnamurti - Amsterdam 1981 - Public Talk 2 - A religious mind is a very factual mind

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  • @esmaeilpr6444
    @esmaeilpr6444 4 дня назад +2

    Thanks from the absolutely free and holy man ever

  • @Sharing13
    @Sharing13 Месяц назад +2

    Listening in 2024 needed a reminder

  • @dhruvcharan396
    @dhruvcharan396 8 лет назад +70

    The very act of uploading is worth appreciation. Thank you.

  • @sachingurjar215
    @sachingurjar215 Год назад +10

    Thanks from the bottom of my heart for uploading such a life transforming video series

  • @universuliubirii7934
    @universuliubirii7934 4 года назад +40

    When he sais that the controller is the controlled , I felt love for my self. And for the entire world.
    Amazing ! I love Krishnamurty ! ❤❤🦄🦄🤗🤗

    • @aek12
      @aek12 Год назад +1

      Good me too. Now I am in love with whole earth

  • @harryschultz6951
    @harryschultz6951 Год назад +3

    He’s an amazing public speaker- never goes “um”etc. and very rarely corrects himself. His skill as a public speaker is legend

  • @katarinabaksiova4550
    @katarinabaksiova4550 4 года назад +14

    Just realized why J.K. always speaks "the speaker." Genius ! Sending love to all of you

    • @shilpyagarwal8652
      @shilpyagarwal8652 3 года назад +3

      Why? I am new to his speeches. He means he is also observing, and he himself is not the one speaking? Is that so?

    • @bigbigtran4233
      @bigbigtran4233 8 месяцев назад

      the speaker is what is said😊

  • @jaabaadaabaaadoo
    @jaabaadaabaaadoo 4 года назад +28

    Maybe the best speach of sir Jiddu. How beautiful it is to die every day to all the illusions mind has accumulated.

  • @joanleenakayama7939
    @joanleenakayama7939 3 года назад +3

    So glad that I hv come across this uploaded video!! Thank you so much for this. Learnt & gratitude! 🥰❤️👍🙏🙏🙏

  • @saravanansomasundaram2365
    @saravanansomasundaram2365 4 года назад +10

    Eye opening speech

  • @henkknaap8781
    @henkknaap8781 4 года назад +21

    O what a beautiful man he is ...

  • @suhanifree390
    @suhanifree390 2 года назад +10

    Very few people are watching this valuable knowledge on other hand there is millions of views on garage based content .all that people just need is entertainment and stimulation

    • @Absolutely-nothing80
      @Absolutely-nothing80 11 месяцев назад +1

      One needs to have tremendous courage to face the fact that he is an illusion put together by memory. Very few have the conditions to digest it.

  • @RTruth-el3ub
    @RTruth-el3ub 2 года назад +1

    Big thank u for all the upload.

  • @i2sketch
    @i2sketch 8 лет назад +12

    Thank you so much for uploading all these videos.

  • @elrojas9055
    @elrojas9055 4 года назад +5

    Thank you!

  • @sandra...7451
    @sandra...7451 Год назад +1

    Woooooooo! Very fantastic . You want to save me from my self= ego= my thought

  • @shashidharshettar3846
    @shashidharshettar3846 4 года назад +32

    I was “living dead” and after coming across his speeches “now” I woke up to live.

    • @kirklazarus8424
      @kirklazarus8424 4 года назад +1

      cringe and lol

    • @HOurWrld999
      @HOurWrld999 3 года назад +1

      @@kirklazarus8424 r u even listening

    • @hugojj101
      @hugojj101 2 года назад

      @@kirklazarus8424 I think when you experience pain, cringe will take on a new meaning. No meaning at all. You don't care about cringe. Cringe becomes when you get your finger trapped in the door and weren't aware enough to step up to the pain. actually it's been two years. Maybe you think your comment was cringe now haha.

  • @vedaparayanagandikota5409
    @vedaparayanagandikota5409 3 года назад +2

    Thank you sir

  • @Howto.95
    @Howto.95 Год назад +1

    Thank you 😊

  • @sleek24
    @sleek24 9 лет назад +4

    Beautiful observations Valerie

  • @yeshajariwala
    @yeshajariwala 8 лет назад +15

    To realize truth one should make his heart pure and mind clear then the truth is near. Secondly, Ego i.e (I. me,my,mine) is zero one becomes hero.

  • @jaguarazul
    @jaguarazul 7 лет назад +13

    thanks a lot for sharing

  • @gloriacarabajalzapiola584
    @gloriacarabajalzapiola584 3 года назад +3

    Genial!!!

  • @ashrafulhaque8759
    @ashrafulhaque8759 2 года назад +9

    It's hard to believe, someone like JK lived in this earth -not so long ago.
    And also, the world is still the same place - nothing has really changed!

    • @praveendas972
      @praveendas972 Год назад +1

      His listeners must be 1 percent of this world ... He can't change world alone

    • @laoisemeehan
      @laoisemeehan Год назад

      ​@@praveendas972less

    • @krox477
      @krox477 11 месяцев назад +1

      World is not different from you

    • @ektabahrani5775
      @ektabahrani5775 4 месяца назад +1

      The ones who are listening, if they change themselves, gradually the world will change. His efforts will not go to waste.

  • @doscinco6914
    @doscinco6914 4 года назад +6

    at 33:33 He mentioned about a decease that will push us off. this is awakeneing to those who follows this man

  • @valeriepointer6157
    @valeriepointer6157 10 лет назад +15

    A "Religious Mind" is Free to observe ALL of its emotional thoughts & feelings that arise in ones daily relationships. "Religion" is Holistic Self-Awareness of all illusory activity arising in the mind. Religion is being free to question the validity of Emotional Traditions and never blindly obey beliefs, dogmas or saints. Illusion arises out of the Desire to Escape from Emotional Disturbance rather than to penetrate it. Avoiding my nature is being contradictory which is a rejection of being WHOLE, moral.

  • @varalta.floresta
    @varalta.floresta 3 года назад +2

    awesome

  • @thoughtstreams8327
    @thoughtstreams8327 Год назад +1

    🦋

  • @corpuscallosum4677
    @corpuscallosum4677 9 лет назад +8

    This at the wake of Paris massacre. K is like a loving, prompting grandma, a must for our brutal 20 century. Let's just hope humanity understands the Truth, that unless we want peace with such intensity, such desperation that there's no time, no space, but only immediate realization of ahimsa. Never anti-terror nor war, but be Peace. To K, To Gandhi, our real spiritual KinGs. One taught with decades of talks and the other with actions. Prism of LOVE : Truth, Beauty and ego-less.

  • @questioningeverything574
    @questioningeverything574 2 года назад +1

    Thx

  • @OPTHolisticServices
    @OPTHolisticServices 2 года назад +1

    💓🍃

  • @yuanjiang5999
    @yuanjiang5999 Год назад +1

    是我电脑设置的问题还是怎么回事,整个系列都是简体中文的标题跟介绍,感恩🥹

  • @Эрдем-ь2ь
    @Эрдем-ь2ь 8 месяцев назад +2

    09:35 , 15:27 , 17:26 , 19:18 , 21:43 , 23:49 , 24:18 , 27:48 , 32:15 , 33:49 , 36:07 , 43:27 , 46:00 , 49:48 , 51:04 , 01:00:50 , 01:02:20 , 01:03:50

  • @alexandruconstantin9719
    @alexandruconstantin9719 3 года назад +3

    ❤🤝❤🙏MULTUMESC DE ❤🤝❤🙏

  • @SteveJobs_
    @SteveJobs_ Год назад +1

    He repeats and repeats that we all already knew. Hard to find something new from him.

    • @SteveJobs_
      @SteveJobs_ Год назад

      Oh, but the last part of this video is genial. His speech is composed to 9 introduction : 1 core teaching.

  • @sevtapbaykal
    @sevtapbaykal 2 года назад +1

    Neden bu kadar az Türkçe altyazılı daha fazla Türkçe altyazılı istiyoruz sevgilerle ❤

  • @danielkotzer636
    @danielkotzer636 2 года назад +1

    A rather cheerful talk, isn't it?

  • @roncarvalho
    @roncarvalho 9 лет назад +7

    I believe that K was a man generations ahead of his time and a genius really.
    I have 4 questions which I wish someone had asked K. If anybody knows of any video or audio of him addressing them please share. Thanks in advance!
    ON DESIRE: K used to say something along the lines that desire is created by thought, and is destructive, brings insecurity, which brings division, which leads to violence and all the rest of it. Nonetheless, didn’t he himself “desire” that the people listening to his lectures understood what he was trying to communicate to them? Of course he did! Did he desire to change mankind and stop human suffering? Of course he did! Thus, he desired! He desired to change the world!
    ON DIVISION: K used to say that ANY type of division was “bad” (i.e. nationality, family, religion, etc.), but he himself often DIVIDED time between “psychological time” and “physical time”. Thus, his argument was often supported by division! The same applied to desire when he talked about desire for physical security being separate and distinct from desire for psychological security. He divided them!
    ON THOUGHT: K used to say (something like) thought was always playing tricks on human beings, and could never lead to right action, and only led to sorrow and all the rest of it. Nonetheless, during his many talks with Dr. David Bohm, they both were systematically “thinking” about how to best coin a sentence. That was thought in action! Their words were a product of thought! They even mentioned having looked the meaning of world in the dictionary.
    ON SECURITY: K stated that if one reached psychological security than physical security would be “all right”, because true psychological security would always lead to right action. He even said that if his house burned down, he would not care. Come on now! I would care (and guess I will always care) if my house burns down!

    • @roncarvalho
      @roncarvalho 9 лет назад

      +Blue Jacky Thanks for all the K quotes.
      Please note when you say that my "observations are pretty false" you are not really listening to them.
      I am not "just comparing what Jiddu Krishnamurti says to what you believe and then criticizing". What I am doing is following his own recommendation and "going into it", "questioning it", "looking at it", "observing it".
      I am under the impression that you may have taken offense in that, which if so is unfortunate.
      Reading the quotes you kindly posted makes me wonder, there are arguably many contradictions. For example:
      K: "My inquiry now is how to be free from the fear of the known , which is the fear of losing my family, my reputation, my character, my bank account, my appetites and so on"
      My inquiry: Is that not DESIRE? The desire to be free from the known? Free from sorrow, pain and the rest of it?
      K: "My difficulty is my desire to live in a certain frame. Can I not break the frame?"
      My inquiry: Why does he desire to change? Who is the observer thinking there is a better way of living?
      K: "Do we now know what fear is? Is it not the non-acceptance of what is?"
      My inquiry: So, does that mean he was a fearful man, given this non-acceptance of the current state of affairs?
      K: "How can I, who am a bundle of all these reactions, responses, memories, hopes, depressions, frustrations, who am the result of the movement of consciousness blocked, go beyond?"
      My inquiry: Again, he displays a DESIRE for change.
      Again, please don't take my inquiry as attacks, I am simply following K's own recommendation to question everything any guru says is true.
      Also, going back to all the quotes, if mankind were to abandon psychological thought, what kind of society would we have?

    • @Khmevo
      @Khmevo 6 лет назад +6

      If one only understands the meaning of the English words, one will not understand the Thing he is talking about. "The Word is not the Thing." he often said. So one needs to go beyond the words deeper to understand the real meaning.
      ON DESIRE: He said he doesn't have any attachment to his audience at all, meaning he has no desire for them to listen to him or not listen to him. He has no desire to change mankind, he only shares to mankind. His actions do not base on Thought or Desire, but it comes from the Nothingness, Timeless, Ethereal that he talks about.
      ON DIVISION: “psychological time” and “physical time” they are not the same thing, so there is no division. They are two separate things. Physical security is normal. But the need for Psychological security is created by Thought. There are videos that he talks about security.
      ON THOUGHT: "Thought has its own place," he said. "We have to use thought to learn language, to speak, to communicate in English." So while talking/discussing we have to use thought. But his Thought doesn't come from the Self (put together by thought). His thought comes from Nothingness, Eternal, Love, Compassion or whatever the Thing is.
      ON SECURITY: You said, "I would care (and guess I will always care) if my house burns down!" Yes, you can care, you can think, you can worry, you can be sad, be unhappy, or whatever, but the house had already burned down. It's a FACT! Unless you don't accept that fact, than you would try to change that FACT to ILLUSION. It becomes Illusion when the brain starts to create images of the house being OK or try to project that the house is actually not burned down. When one tries to change the FACT, that is when suffering happens. The harder thought try to change the FACT, the more pain it gets. That is an example of attachment in action?
      Hope the explanation helps to some extend.
      If you have not already, listen to this discussion might help. If one understands the whole thing in the discussion, it's Over.
      ruclips.net/p/PL1n30s-LKus4ipHYdBpKt1-AdSN181Lc0

    • @kevincastelino9080
      @kevincastelino9080 4 года назад

      Selfish desire for material things could lead to corruption but selfless desires to eradicate poverty, suffering and mankind's ignorance will that lead to peace and happiness or destruction.

  • @KINGJUNAID555
    @KINGJUNAID555 Год назад +1

    56:08

  • @EternalRoland
    @EternalRoland 6 лет назад +4

    52:38 🖤

  • @AntonyThorburn
    @AntonyThorburn Год назад +1

    A RELIGIOUS MIND IS A FACTUAL MIND is so trying to TAKES AWAY TRUTH FROM A SRIRTUAL EXISTACE

  • @kazimaydar1027
    @kazimaydar1027 2 года назад +1

    🔺️

  • @1infectedsoul699
    @1infectedsoul699 6 лет назад +4

    37:38 What we mean by the word "RELIGION" .

  • @letyyu9770
    @letyyu9770 7 лет назад +5

    中文字幕,太棒了

  • @asafeplacepodcast2690
    @asafeplacepodcast2690 2 года назад +3

    Its all belief even J K in this talk is showing his belief.

  • @gregnicholls8347
    @gregnicholls8347 3 года назад +1

    After all the ideas about being religious and spirituality K. is under no illusion that the religious mind is very factual mind. This seems to cut through any fantasising, any illusion of personal experience. Does that mean the religious is totally free from all experience in which the illusory self has subsided. Asking what this means with all of our energy and waiting for the outcome, waiting, waiting, waiting is all there is.

  • @somdixit4331
    @somdixit4331 3 года назад +1

    Will you share the beginning of all talks.

  • @limalongkumer9395
    @limalongkumer9395 2 года назад +2

    The best thi g to be is to listen to JK

  • @ramongomez8849
    @ramongomez8849 4 года назад +2

    🙏🏻

  • @zizaijk1262
    @zizaijk1262 4 года назад +1

    求这篇中文字幕。谢谢各位朋友

  • @purewitness7463
    @purewitness7463 6 лет назад +3

    nicee

  • @dwcrabtree
    @dwcrabtree 3 года назад +1

    16:00

  • @maryannhunt1118
    @maryannhunt1118 4 года назад +10

    Rather hear Krishnamurti then Trump or Biden

  • @sandatoacsen7356
    @sandatoacsen7356 4 года назад +1

    Analiză magnifică a fiintei bărbătești..... din pacate cu minime intersectari cu ceea ce este ( simte ) femeia , dar nu este de mirare , pentru că foarte putini bărbați s,au hazardat ( și bine au făcut ) să incerce să înțeleagă complexitatea simțirii feminine si gândurile si acțiunile care decurg din asta .Yung a incercat , dar si el in mod timid !

  • @cappyizhappy
    @cappyizhappy 7 лет назад +2

    @ 49 seconds, the speaker makes the statement "I am afraid this is the last talk". In the Public Talk 1, he states that he does not experience fear. Yet, being afraid is the experience of fear. I do not point this out to criticize. I just wonder if he meant that he had sorrow that it was the last talk.

    • @abhishekkj3662
      @abhishekkj3662 7 лет назад +5

      Happy
      Dude ..that's too deep lol...it's just an expression ...without feeling behind it

    • @Khmevo
      @Khmevo 6 лет назад +7

      It's just words, it has not deep meaning to him. Just like when he say, "Thanks God." Doesn't mean there is God.

    • @vhuttunen9835
      @vhuttunen9835 4 года назад +2

      Human beings aren't perfect, neither is Krishnamurti. Others have pointed out that what he said is merely an expression. If you search for errors in his speeches, you will find them, but instead of looking for errors you should be looking for whether you can learn something from this man, something you can acknowledge as true yourself, despite his minor errors.

  • @HardikNanda
    @HardikNanda 6 лет назад +3

    Bookmark 44:50

  • @pablonunez7844
    @pablonunez7844 3 года назад +1

    To they that have reached understanding one word is to much

  • @MLICS2717
    @MLICS2717 7 лет назад +2

    Respect to Sir Krishnamurti, the official owners of literature, convert in 19 language of world.They convert it in even Marathi,but did they really don't know that Hindi is our National Language,and it should be convert it into that too.It's Constitution's 8th schedule ,that given list of all language.Kindly do the needful.Thanks

    • @KFoundation
      @KFoundation  7 лет назад +4

      Thank you for your message. Our subtitles are created by a large network of volunteers. We don't operate any selection on which languages should or should not be available. The more languages available, irrespective of popularity, the better. Hope this helps.

    • @abhishekkj3662
      @abhishekkj3662 7 лет назад +1

      Hindi is not India's national language...there are official languages , English and Hindi ..

    • @_pramod_madhav5367
      @_pramod_madhav5367 6 лет назад

      abhishek K J. We are divided.

  • @803arash
    @803arash 3 года назад +2

    man do not need religion,don,t need a GOD.

  • @yusufarslan6966
    @yusufarslan6966 7 лет назад +4

    I was death, I resurrected with death. MEVLANA

  • @murathzl1211
    @murathzl1211 6 лет назад +2

    Murat babanı gördüm. Lan

  • @ketankshukla
    @ketankshukla 3 года назад +1

    Normally I agree with him, but religion and facts have nothing to do with each other.

    • @tonyevans8753
      @tonyevans8753 3 года назад +3

      But he clearly defines religion as something totally different to what is practiced by religions and probably different to what you consider to be religion. By his definition religion, facts, freedom, observation and truth are synonymous.

    • @chrishouck2863
      @chrishouck2863 2 года назад

      Sir once one brings about right living and truth there will be somthin you can't can't put in words ... let's call it bliss.. check out his note book thats as close to the understanding of what he's talking about in a religious life.. there's alot more to be said about this topic one just threw this out real fast with out thinking of coarse.

  • @hajeradli3464
    @hajeradli3464 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤🙏

  • @preethikrao
    @preethikrao 3 года назад +2

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @ornellamiliciani7074
    @ornellamiliciani7074 2 года назад +1

    ❤️

  • @manmathahaldar9221
    @manmathahaldar9221 2 года назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏