Would not surprise me in the slightest if Bryce Young goes on to have a better career than Caleb Williams. The Panthers have quietly been making big moves. That O Line is going to look very different this year. I think Canales will get the best out of Bryce. Right philosophy, right personality, right offensive mind, right coach, right time.
As I keep pointing out to people, Williams is 100% a product of the media. He's 100% projected from his college tape, right? & Fields is a bust? But seen side to side ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html Fields is *clearly* better. It's not even close. While Fields has two passes where his placement could have been better by inches without even being pressured Williams whiffs so badly the receivers have to stop dead & wait for the ball to come down. Those _will be_ INTs in the NFL. Fields is a better rusher & FAR MORE accurate passer. So Williams is actually inferior in talent to someone regarded as a complete bust. Or as media calls him, "Generational."
@@putmeincoachpod2024 I can't miss it. I'm subscribed. But we'll see. No offense to you, I hold myself *& others* to ridiculously high standards. It may "sound" like I'm always ranting about this but it's not due to the need to vent. Fields may Never Get To Start Again because of all this. also, something I enjoy is being reduced in enjoyment value. So _this_ was a bit of me venting because stop _teasing me,_ dammit! But okay, I'm excited... Oh, & if this looks similar but different, RUclips kept deleting my comments automatically. So I made a new account.
Thank you for being literally the only positive non panther focused media on youtube it seems. With XL, Diontae, and other weapons Bryce will be in run for Comeback Player of the Year
if the panthers have a improved rushing attack and stop the run at an effective rate , expect at least 10 wins , schedule isn’t as tough as the media make it
Great points. I was scratching my head at the few fans who wrote off Trevor after his rookie season. But that wasn’t a lot of people. It was obvious with the Urban situation but why not with Frank?
I’m with you. Best way I could explain it is the fact I think the media invested heavily in the promotion of Trevor leading up to the draft. Frank Reich also had an NFL reputation far greater than Urban’s. Ultimately just comes down to narratives and hype.
I love this video it’s spot on and I got faith Bryce will turn it around this season… let them all sleep on the panthers bc there gonna wake them all tf up… 😂😂😂 keep pounding.
Good stuff guys. I think the comparison between Young and Lawrence is spot on. Reich was far more likable than Meyer, but just as ineffective. I think Young has brighter days ahead of him and hope the Panthers finally found their head coach.
Anyone who watched the Panthers last year knows Bryce went into battle with dull spoons for weapons and bubble wrap for protection. Hes gonna turn it around in a big way.
The reason is simple really. Reich is well respected by the media, and Tepper is highly disliked. Theres still talking heads in tv that think Reich should still be the coach. That’s laughable. Reich looked like he was literally trying to get fired. Also, it’s the size. People refuse to believe that football is not basketball; meaning if you can play then you CAN PLAY, regardless of size.
As a fan I don't want their opinions, projections or ratings. The Panthers weren't doing well. Give me analysis. Show me why - what the problem is. I don't watch those shows. I'm not sure why I clicked on this video. But thank you. I subscribed.
If Bryce makes a comeback this year, how much credit does tepper deserve? Part of his optical downfall was his instance that young was the selection. The media said he force-fed Bryce to Frank. Well ... What if Tepp was right? Do the Tepper-draggers then need to eat crow?
The problem is that's all a very either/or view based on the inability of most people to juggle two thoughts. Not three. "Is the QB good or bad" is One Question/Thought. "Was coaching a factor" is another. & I notice that even analysts have trouble finishing two sentences where they retain both. Tepper was impatient. As an owner he needs to Sell Tickets & Merch. So waiting another year for a QB wasn't an option for that POV. Separately from this one RUclipsr did a video isolating what Young & Stroud do before bad play-calling &/or lack of on-field talent ended plays. As we all thought in the preseason, they are indistinguishable down to footwork. Young has all the good technique & football intelligence needed to make it in the NFL. He doesn't have a good roster yet. I wish NFL fans could be More Patient. We don't need to know today if he'll be good 3 years from now.
I think you can tell alot from a QB's rookie year To your point Trevor Lawrence, after 3 years, doesn't look like he's the generaltional talent that was promised to be, he's been somewhat of a dissapointment TBH. I believe he looks to be behind Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Herbert, maybe Stroud and of course Mahomes and that's just AFC QBs. So the question is to me regarding BY is he going to be Zach Wilson/Kenny Picket bust bad or is he going to be Kirk Cousins/Baker Mayfield/Trevor Lawrence meh...there is no superstar future MVP arc. In an era where Partick Mahomes exists that matters. Either way he will be in hindsight a disappoinment. Furthermore (no fault of BY i guess) he came out the same year as Stroud and Anthony Richarson, we know what Stroud did, and if Anthony Richardson avoids injury looks like he can have a Cam Newton-esque career arc. Trevor Lawence on the other hand came out where he is not burdened by a same year draft class QB who is having a superior career. Every other QB in his draft class is no longer with his original team, which falsely enhances the perception of him. Finally it's safe to say that Bryce Young is the worst QB ever from a physical measureables standpoint and Trevor Lawrence is litterally on the opposite end of the spectrum, fair or not that matters from an least an optics standpoint. Sorry to say but you did gloss over this fact. Reply
Hey great insight man. Really appreciate the thoughtfulness. Really valid points. Gonna push back on the superstar MVP arc not being a possibility though. This kind of plays right into what I’m saying; you don’t THINK it’s possible he has that arc, and you may very well end up being right, but unless you’re the first legitimate psychic I’ve come across, the jury is very much out on this. Secondly, my only point with the whole argument was to show the difference in narrative despite nearly identical RESULTS in their rookie seasons. You’re correct I glossed over the physical traits element, because of course I assumed that was a given. I think it’s deeper than that though. Lastly, it’s great CJ balled last year and Richardson showed Cam-esk flashes, but let’s neither of us pretend those guys were evaluated above Bryce leading into the draft. This is less of a “what do I THINK Bryce’s career will be?” video, and more of a “I need to see more like I did with Trevor, before I say bust.” Video. Thanks for watching man, really appreciate the comment.
I’ve been calling it for a while but the panthers will be MUCH better with Dave and Dan this year and I’m talking playoff or wildcards.. Most media people bring up how bad the panthers were last year, but they skipped how MOST of them had the panthers as “Show ins to win the NFC South” last year.. And they completely missed.. And they are doing it again this year.. They are STILL talking like the panthers had nothing but the draft and not a REALLY solid off season with improvements everywhere…
Come on guys....for the most part throughout history the #1 overall draft pick tends to go to a crappy team. That's how it works. The QB has to be exceptional. As he should be because he's the #1 pick. Bryce has to play better THIS year. If he plays good then all will be forgotten. If he plays bad then he will be forgotten. On to the next.
Okay people don't realize when you have a goofy owner that thinks. "Oh i can build a NFL team with a small quarterback". News flash NFL fans when have you seen a Alabama qb do good in the NFL ? Tua can't win against good teams and Jaylen Hurts transfered, so don't count him. But I'll wait for a answer. 🤔
I hear what you're saying, but Tua is 39-19 in his career, so he's done at least decent. I think sometime around 2017 Saban starting recruiting QB's differently. He was looking for guys that could make them unstoppable, rather than just pocket guys who could execute. So, Bama doesn't have a history of great NFL talent at the QB position but even to your point, Hurts transferred after Tua took over. Both are very good in the NFL. Tua isn't elite, but a guy who can win you 64% of your games is nothing to scoff at either.
Ironically enough, I think one of the narratives that the Panthers bought into when they picked Young over C.J. Stroud was the notion that Ohio State QBs tend to flame out in the NFL. But I guess there's a first time for everything.
I'm not sure who it is that's trying to "cover their asses" by wanting Young to fail. Looks to me like Tepper and his top people don't want to become the Vikings in the "new Herschel Walker trade." After all, if they're so confident everything is going to plan then why'd they dump Frank Reich and Fitterer after one season? The whole draft of 2023 and trading up with a 1st round pick would not look that bad if Stroud hadn't been so brilliant in his rookie season. I see folks on here chirping about Young being better than Caleb Williams. They should be ecstatic if Young turns out to be as good as Stroud.
They were covering their asses in the media as it pertained to Trevor, both Bryce. The lack of covering up and explaining away Bryce’s bad rookie year, has to do with the fact that he wasn’t a media darling. Does this make sense? CJ already looks like a superstar, so I doubt Bryce Young surpasses him optically anytime soon. Thanks for watching 🙏
Panthers got 5-6 hard games and 12 winnable games. Can they win them all? Yes can they lose them all? Also yes! Panthers can go 3-14 and also can go 10-7
@@putmeincoachpod2024 it’s all about Bryce young, ikem ekwonu and how the defence will preform after losing BB and frankie luvu. I know they add to decent edge rushers, but they got the depth if one of then got injured.
I don’t think it’s necessarily due to media narrative I think when you’re comparing their rookie’s seasons it comes down to much better physical traits for Lawrence. Bryce is small doesn’t have a plus arm and struggled. Lawrence is in a different stratosphere from a tools standpoint. It’s a lot easier to think you can fix the 6’6 guy with a cannon than the guy who’s 5’10 with an average arm. It really just comes down to physical intangibles
That’s part of it for sure, but I disagree in totality. I think the talking heads were VERY invested in Trevor hitting well before he was drafted, similar to Caleb this past year. That same investment was not given to Bryce, therefore him failing or succeeding isn’t all that relevant to them either way.
Arm doesn't matter neither do height ,Drew Breez and Doug flutie both played awesome and jay cutler and a few others have had great arms ..it means nothingits coaching and what you put around a player to succeed aamerica loves false narratives
Facts! I've seen other comments talking about Panthers WRs when they were no where near top of the league in drops while Bryce was one of the worst in off target throws over 10 air yards
@@kevykev388 yeah and don’t forget the excuses about the oline being bad… BY averaged 2.5 secs to throw which was 7th best in the NFL… receivers and line looked really good when Dalton played
Would not surprise me in the slightest if Bryce Young goes on to have a better career than Caleb Williams. The Panthers have quietly been making big moves. That O Line is going to look very different this year. I think Canales will get the best out of Bryce. Right philosophy, right personality, right offensive mind, right coach, right time.
It's not a crazy take at all man. Again, we've seen so many rookies bounce back after rough year ones.
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As I keep pointing out to people, Williams is 100% a product of the media. He's 100% projected from his college tape, right? & Fields is a bust?
But seen side to side ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html Fields is *clearly* better. It's not even close. While Fields has two passes where his placement could have been better by inches without even being pressured Williams whiffs so badly the receivers have to stop dead & wait for the ball to come down. Those _will be_ INTs in the NFL.
Fields is a better rusher & FAR MORE accurate passer. So Williams is actually inferior in talent to someone regarded as a complete bust. Or as media calls him, "Generational."
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But we'll see. No offense to you, I hold myself *& others* to ridiculously high standards. It may "sound" like I'm always ranting about this but it's not due to the need to vent. Fields may Never Get To Start Again because of all this. also, something I enjoy is being reduced in enjoyment value. So _this_ was a bit of me venting because stop _teasing me,_ dammit!
But okay, I'm excited... Oh, & if this looks similar but different, RUclips kept deleting my comments automatically. So I made a new account.
Thank you for being literally the only positive non panther focused media on youtube it seems. With XL, Diontae, and other weapons Bryce will be in run for Comeback Player of the Year
Love the take! Thanks for watching!
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if the panthers have a improved rushing attack and stop the run at an effective rate , expect at least 10 wins , schedule isn’t as tough as the media make it
That’s bold, but in that division, absolutely possible.
Yea Dave tryna keep that ball outta bryce hands hopefully the new rushing attack works out for Dave
Someone who actual pay attention to whole games smh so many watch football but dont watch football
Preach!
Great points. I was scratching my head at the few fans who wrote off Trevor after his rookie season. But that wasn’t a lot of people. It was obvious with the Urban situation but why not with Frank?
I’m with you. Best way I could explain it is the fact I think the media invested heavily in the promotion of Trevor leading up to the draft. Frank Reich also had an NFL reputation far greater than Urban’s. Ultimately just comes down to narratives and hype.
Thanks for covering the panthers :) great to see non panther fans not 100% write us off
We're super excited for this season! Thanks for watching!
I love this video it’s spot on and I got faith Bryce will turn it around this season… let them all sleep on the panthers bc there gonna wake them all tf up… 😂😂😂 keep pounding.
Yes sir 🙏
Good stuff guys. I think the comparison between Young and Lawrence is spot on. Reich was far more likable than Meyer, but just as ineffective. I think Young has brighter days ahead of him and hope the Panthers finally found their head coach.
Finally, somebody with some optimism. I completely agree with you, and thank you so much for watching.
Anyone who watched the Panthers last year knows Bryce went into battle with dull spoons for weapons and bubble wrap for protection. Hes gonna turn it around in a big way.
Totally agree
The reason is simple really. Reich is well respected by the media, and Tepper is highly disliked. Theres still talking heads in tv that think Reich should still be the coach. That’s laughable. Reich looked like he was literally trying to get fired. Also, it’s the size. People refuse to believe that football is not basketball; meaning if you can play then you CAN PLAY, regardless of size.
Great take man. Media plays favorites and builds narratives around them.
Thanks for watching 🙏
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As a fan I don't want their opinions, projections or ratings. The Panthers weren't doing well. Give me analysis. Show me why - what the problem is. I don't watch those shows. I'm not sure why I clicked on this video. But thank you. I subscribed.
Appreciate you!
Bryce is going to be a alpha out there I saw the drops wideouts had bryce was throwing darts
The receiving group was like the worst ever last year lol we gotta give this man a second chance.
If Bryce makes a comeback this year, how much credit does tepper deserve? Part of his optical downfall was his instance that young was the selection. The media said he force-fed Bryce to Frank. Well ... What if Tepp was right? Do the Tepper-draggers then need to eat crow?
Yes they do ‼️
Tepper gonna need these Panthers to make a run to save his reputation 😂
The problem is that's all a very either/or view based on the inability of most people to juggle two thoughts. Not three. "Is the QB good or bad" is One Question/Thought. "Was coaching a factor" is another. & I notice that even analysts have trouble finishing two sentences where they retain both. Tepper was impatient. As an owner he needs to Sell Tickets & Merch. So waiting another year for a QB wasn't an option for that POV.
Separately from this one RUclipsr did a video isolating what Young & Stroud do before bad play-calling &/or lack of on-field talent ended plays. As we all thought in the preseason, they are indistinguishable down to footwork. Young has all the good technique & football intelligence needed to make it in the NFL. He doesn't have a good roster yet.
I wish NFL fans could be More Patient. We don't need to know today if he'll be good 3 years from now.
I think you can tell alot from a QB's rookie year
To your point Trevor Lawrence, after 3 years, doesn't look like he's the generaltional talent that was promised to be, he's been somewhat of a dissapointment TBH. I believe he looks to be behind Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Herbert, maybe Stroud and of course Mahomes and that's just AFC QBs.
So the question is to me regarding BY is he going to be Zach Wilson/Kenny Picket bust bad or is he going to be Kirk Cousins/Baker Mayfield/Trevor Lawrence meh...there is no superstar future MVP arc.
In an era where Partick Mahomes exists that matters.
Either way he will be in hindsight a disappoinment.
Furthermore (no fault of BY i guess) he came out the same year as Stroud and Anthony Richarson, we know what Stroud did, and if Anthony Richardson avoids injury looks like he can have a Cam Newton-esque career arc.
Trevor Lawence on the other hand came out where he is not burdened by a same year draft class QB who is having a superior career. Every other QB in his draft class is no longer with his original team, which falsely enhances the perception of him.
Finally it's safe to say that Bryce Young is the worst QB ever from a physical measureables standpoint and Trevor Lawrence is litterally on the opposite end of the spectrum, fair or not that matters from an least an optics standpoint. Sorry to say but you did gloss over this fact.
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Hey great insight man. Really appreciate the thoughtfulness.
Really valid points. Gonna push back on the superstar MVP arc not being a possibility though. This kind of plays right into what I’m saying; you don’t THINK it’s possible he has that arc, and you may very well end up being right, but unless you’re the first legitimate psychic I’ve come across, the jury is very much out on this.
Secondly, my only point with the whole argument was to show the difference in narrative despite nearly identical RESULTS in their rookie seasons. You’re correct I glossed over the physical traits element, because of course I assumed that was a given. I think it’s deeper than that though.
Lastly, it’s great CJ balled last year and Richardson showed Cam-esk flashes, but let’s neither of us pretend those guys were evaluated above Bryce leading into the draft.
This is less of a “what do I THINK Bryce’s career will be?” video, and more of a “I need to see more like I did with Trevor, before I say bust.” Video.
Thanks for watching man, really appreciate the comment.
Caneles is about common sense football. He will do what guys are good at, and do it well.
He’s gonna help this team take a solid step forward this year.
Bryce isnt bad, he needs protection, and good receivers thats all it is.
We will find out what he is this year, looking forward to it.
I’ve been calling it for a while but the panthers will be MUCH better with Dave and Dan this year and I’m talking playoff or wildcards.. Most media people bring up how bad the panthers were last year, but they skipped how MOST of them had the panthers as “Show ins to win the NFC South” last year..
And they completely missed.. And they are doing it again this year.. They are STILL talking like the panthers had nothing but the draft and not a REALLY solid off season with improvements everywhere…
I think they’re gonna be a lot better than last year as well.
Come on guys....for the most part throughout history the #1 overall draft pick tends to go to a crappy team. That's how it works. The QB has to be exceptional. As he should be because he's the #1 pick. Bryce has to play better THIS year. If he plays good then all will be forgotten. If he plays bad then he will be forgotten. On to the next.
Bryce absolutely has to play better this year.
Ha the panthers were 1 game away from winning the division and a home playoff the season before trading up to get Bryce young
Okay people don't realize when you have a goofy owner that thinks. "Oh i can build a NFL team with a small quarterback".
News flash NFL fans when have you seen a Alabama qb do good in the NFL ? Tua can't win against good teams and Jaylen Hurts transfered, so don't count him. But I'll wait for a answer. 🤔
I hear what you're saying, but Tua is 39-19 in his career, so he's done at least decent. I think sometime around 2017 Saban starting recruiting QB's differently. He was looking for guys that could make them unstoppable, rather than just pocket guys who could execute. So, Bama doesn't have a history of great NFL talent at the QB position but even to your point, Hurts transferred after Tua took over. Both are very good in the NFL. Tua isn't elite, but a guy who can win you 64% of your games is nothing to scoff at either.
Ironically enough, I think one of the narratives that the Panthers bought into when they picked Young over C.J. Stroud was the notion that Ohio State QBs tend to flame out in the NFL. But I guess there's a first time for everything.
Garth brooks hat…. Where are the bodies?
The rabbit hole is deep
I'm not sure who it is that's trying to "cover their asses" by wanting Young to fail. Looks to me like Tepper and his top people don't want to become the Vikings in the "new Herschel Walker trade." After all, if they're so confident everything is going to plan then why'd they dump Frank Reich and Fitterer after one season? The whole draft of 2023 and trading up with a 1st round pick would not look that bad if Stroud hadn't been so brilliant in his rookie season. I see folks on here chirping about Young being better than Caleb Williams. They should be ecstatic if Young turns out to be as good as Stroud.
They were covering their asses in the media as it pertained to Trevor, both Bryce. The lack of covering up and explaining away Bryce’s bad rookie year, has to do with the fact that he wasn’t a media darling. Does this make sense?
CJ already looks like a superstar, so I doubt Bryce Young surpasses him optically anytime soon.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Panthers got 5-6 hard games and 12 winnable games. Can they win them all? Yes can they lose them all? Also yes! Panthers can go 3-14 and also can go 10-7
That’s a wide net my man. Thanks for watching 🙏
@@putmeincoachpod2024 it’s all about Bryce young, ikem ekwonu and how the defence will preform after losing BB and frankie luvu. I know they add to decent edge rushers, but they got the depth if one of then got injured.
Payton Manning did not have a good first year
No he did not!
I don’t think it’s necessarily due to media narrative I think when you’re comparing their rookie’s seasons it comes down to much better physical traits for Lawrence. Bryce is small doesn’t have a plus arm and struggled. Lawrence is in a different stratosphere from a tools standpoint. It’s a lot easier to think you can fix the 6’6 guy with a cannon than the guy who’s 5’10 with an average arm. It really just comes down to physical intangibles
That’s part of it for sure, but I disagree in totality. I think the talking heads were VERY invested in Trevor hitting well before he was drafted, similar to Caleb this past year. That same investment was not given to Bryce, therefore him failing or succeeding isn’t all that relevant to them either way.
Arm doesn't matter neither do height ,Drew Breez and Doug flutie both played awesome and jay cutler and a few others have had great arms ..it means nothingits coaching and what you put around a player to succeed aamerica loves false narratives
Those things help but are by no means the end all be all. We have no idea what he can do based on last year, he had nothing at all to work with.
Hope they give u a nice tombstone on that hill brother R.I.P. to u in that hill😇🙏🏾
Not getting it engraved or putting any deposit down on the plot until AT LEAST this season has played out.
If you really think brush yum is him, you do not.
No, no football. I guarantee that.
Been trying to decipher this for a minute now, no dice. Thank you for watching though 🙏
Bryce wasn’t the only problem but he definitely is not the answer… He had the 5th worst yards per play in NFL HISTORY all time
You COULD be right. He deserves a season with a better supporting cast before we decide that.
Facts! I've seen other comments talking about Panthers WRs when they were no where near top of the league in drops while Bryce was one of the worst in off target throws over 10 air yards
@@kevykev388 yeah and don’t forget the excuses about the oline being bad… BY averaged 2.5 secs to throw which was 7th best in the NFL… receivers and line looked really good when Dalton played