It’s an epic showdown! Let me know who the winner is for you between the two here! And if you haven’t used the Magic Trackpad to edit in Final Cut, why not? Just curious... 🙌🏻🤘🏻
The winner, is BOTH the trackpad & whatever mouse you choose. Put the Magic Trackpad to the left of your keyboard & use your left hand for those gestures while you use your mouse to the right of your keyboard, for the ultimate setup 😎 & vice versa if you’re left(weird)-handed ;)
Don't choose, use both! I use a mouse in my right and the trackpad in the left, this really works amazing in my opinion ! 🙏🏼 (Although I alway use a Wacom, I now also use a MX3)
@@matthewTobrien definitely can place trackpad on left and keep using magic mouse as my main on the right with the keyboard in middle then. seems Ima buy trackpad and keyboard
The trackpad rocks! I super love it. No regrets here moving from the traditional mouse to a trackpad. BTW, I can also use it with either hand, so I move it from my right side to the left wherever I need it. 😊
Dang! Power user over here! Wish I had ambidexterity with the Magic Trackpad - would that make it TWICE as Magical??? 🤣🪄 Thanks for watching, Marlyse! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
You're welcome! And using both is a solid workflow - definitely can see using a mouse with certain apps, especially those that require some real precision. Thanks for watching!
I switched from a standard mouse to the magic trackpad years ago. Love the silence too. The trackpad keeps my wrists straight, I barely move them, and this helps me prevents this stinging feeling I normally get if I move my wrists from left to right too much
Thanks for the video! Many years I'm looking best solution for my video editing process. I tried vertical mouses, apple mouses, multifunctional mouses but finally I'm here with Apple Trackpad.
Thanks for the comparison video. I use a MacBook Air M1 and a mechanical keyboard (just cause i'm obsessed with the clicky sound) so I am searching for my "perfect" mouse. I fell in love with MacBook's trackpad that I can't go back to using a mouse (personal preference). Tried using a Logitech pebble and it didn't work for me. Since I use a mechanical keyboard, I've been thinking of buying either the Magic Mouse or the trackpad for months now, I'm just so torn! Good thing I found your video and I have finally decided to go with a trackpad. Thank you for sharing your honest review and thoughts!
A lot of those mechanical keyboards are really cool - been seeing a lot of RUclipsrs who use them. Would love to take one for a test drive one of these days - maybe one of those companies will send one to me one day. Until then, I'll stick with my Apple Magic Keyboard. I think you made the right choice (even if you're not doing video editing). The Magic Trackpad is awesome and since you may be accustomed to using it with your MacBook Air, it's natural to incorporate a standalone trackpad into your workflow. And if you enable three-finger drag? Dang. Game changer. Thanks for watching my vid (and if you purchased or intend to purchase using my link, THANK YOU! Great way to support the channel since it's an affiliate link).
6:17 Wow. Thanks. The three finger drag eliminates serious fatigue from having to click and hold to drag clips using my Macbook's trackpad. It's the main reason I've been looking for mice and why I've tried the MX Master 3 and Magic Mouse 2. I wish I knew this sooner!
Great video. My problem solved. I was hesitant to use the trackpad because I found it easier to move clips around with the mouse. But your 3 finger solution solved it.
I love the Magic Mouse 2, especially for scrolling in the timeline. Have an older Apple Trackpad that I haven’t used in a few years, but never liked the angle on it. Tried the Logitech last year and despised it (big, clunky, horrible scrolling, and yes, really loud clicking). Might have to give the Magic Trackpad a try at some point.
I highly recommend it, David! So much better than the Gen 1 Trackpad. The scrolling and all of the other gestures (especially 3-finger drag) make it so much more efficient - in my opinion - to the Magic Mouse 2. Thanks for watching!
LOL i got a track pad when I purchased iMac last year. Once i used it for FCP, I never went back to the mouse. I’m not even using all of the gestures you mentioned (I learned two news ones I will try out), but once I started using it, I LOVED the lack of that damn clicking sound! I love the track pad for FCP. Thanks for the vid.
Wanted to add, the trackpad gestures are amazing outside of FCP too, I find myself naturally scrolling wherever the pointer happens to be (a picture, a webpage window, emails scroll-list, etc) without having to focus-click or tap on said windows... it truly works. I have settled to using both a mouse and the Trackpad after seeing one video from the subtlecinematics guy (RoyalzProduction now I think?) where he was wooshing through his timeline with both: right hand mouse for precision clicking/dragging/creating-masks/etc and left hand trackpad for more gestures based navigation, in the middle between the two a magic keyboard. So, for me, the poll choice would have been “both”. Not a Magic Mouse though, it’s ergonomically impossible for me sadly, I use a wired Logitech MX-518 style successors. Granted it takes some time to get used to do the gestures with the left hand but since it’s not so much about precision it’s possible to get used to it quickly.
I think the Three Finger Drag option enabled would convince some they don’t need the mouse for precision clicking. I use the Trackpad in photo editing, Affinity Designer and never feel like I can’t be precise. 🤷🏻♂️ But again, everyone is different. I’ll have to check out that vid. Thanks for watching, Alej!
I wanted to add one more thing about the Mac trackpads. Because there's no mechanical action inside and the click is actually just haptic feedback, you can press anywhere on the trackpad surface and get a good, solid feeling click. A click on the corners feels that same as if you clicked in the center. With my PC trackpad, it's a mechanical action, and if I press towards the corners or edges, the click feels differently and sometimes may not click at all.
Exactly! Which is why I love the Magic Trackpad 2. It's always strange when I'm working on my 2013 MacBook Pro because the Trackpad does have the physical clicking (vs haptic). I can't wait for M1 (or M1X) 16" MacBook Pros to come out so I can finally update this nearly 8 yr old laptop (that I'm using right now)!
I bought Apple Magic Mouse a few weeks ago and I have decided to just not use it because it’s just ridiculously slow 😫 I am just gonna use my Logitech Pebble Mouse, interesting that you guys use Trackpad, you guys are amazing😎
long back when tried trackpad, I felt inconvenience. Because trackpad is fixed on the desk. Mouse can be moved as we move our hand postion on the desk.
And I feel the opposite - I don't like having to move the mouse around, I much prefer to glide my hand over the trackpad and have the sensitivity / speed dialed in to make it so I don't really have to move all that much. But it's not for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting!
You know, as surprised as I am, I don't have any issues with that because my natural position with using the trackpad is to have my hand elevated off the desk just enough to not ever get sore after prolonged use. I had one I the past when I used a mouse but since switching to the trackpad I haven't needed one. 🤷🏻♂️
It seems to be a very popular option. I was surprised it didn’t come up as an answer more often in my poll. I hope Logitech can figure out how to make one that doesn’t click so loudly. I’d love to go try one out.
I have my MacBook Air connected via hdmi to my monitor and often use its trackpad, but next to my Magic Keyboard is Magic Mouse 2, which I've customized with gestures using Better Touch Tool. Also, in FCP with Command Post, I've enabled Option + mouse scroll to zoom in and out. Works for me. Though the Magic Mouse 2 was terribly un ergonomic without a mouse pad with wrist rest. Somehow having access to the mouse is comfortable because it's what I'm used to, but I'm kind of curious to try the all trackpad workflow you're talking about.
I think it's worth exploring. 3 Finger Drag makes using the trackpad pretty effortless, and I can't remember the last time my hand hurt using a trackpad all day.
Matthew, 1) I’ve been a regular and very efficient (I think) trackpad user on the laptop the go for two decades and a mouse user, the last several years the latest Magic Mouse, in the studio. It’s strange, but while I know the gestures with the Magic Trackpad, I have hard time being as accurate and (feel) quick with it as I am with the Magic Mouse. I have both and again gave up with the trackpad last week, it’s just not jiving 100%. I also want to get into it so I can go between them every other day or week so my hand gets a break, or different angle and movement. Also, your way of using the iPad for shortcuts is great, I’ve got and actual Stream Deck (I stream as well) and letting go of the mouse is WAY more disruptive than lifting a finger to push (or even less for iPad tap I’d think) from the trackpad. 2) Do you know of a command that’d ‘zoom to selected’? There’s the zoom all the way out and incremental zoom in, but it’d be hugely beneficial to be able to select a clip, or several, and hit a button to get the selected area filling the timeline. I use that all the time in audio editing. 3) Do you use CommandPost? (CommandPost.io) I’m just looking into it, but seems there are numerous missing FCP commands / features covered + tons other stuff, and you can use it with Stream Deck and other controllers to creat shortcuts and workflows.
Thanks for watching! And I appreciate the thoughtful feedback on your unique experience using the Trackpad and Magic Mouse. I have definitely been hearing that there is a feeling that being precise with the Mouse is one of its biggest benefits. And I completely agree that the Trackpad isn't for everyone - for some, it just doesn't connect to their way of working. One question: do you have Three-Finger Drag enabled? I find that trying to click with my thumb and move stuff around with my index finger is beyond inefficient - but since I enabled three-finger drag I *never* have difficult using the creativity apps I use most frequently - Final Cut Pro, Affinity Designer/Publisher, and Photos. If Three-Finger Drag is enabled in your workflow and you're still bumping up against the precision factor, then I completely agree that it's just not the right tool for the job for you. Keep crushing it - as you obviously are 😎 - with the Magic Mouse. As far as the Stream Deck goes - I hear you with moving from the Mouse to the Stream Deck, even if it's positioned near your mouse. I should give editing a try with the Magic Mouse to see how much more difficult it is to hit the buttons of the Stream Deck when using the mouse. As far as zooming goes .... I have *exactly* what you're looking for, and I only learned this trick a couple months ago. Here's what you do: Press and hold the Z key to activate the Zoom tool (now holding it is key, and I'll explain in a moment) and then use your Mouse to click and drag a rectangle in the space ABOVE the area of your timeline you want to zoom in on. The timeline will snap quickly to zoom into the area that spans the rectangle you just drew. And when you release the Z key, FCP will revert back to the tool you were last using (which is most likely the Selection tool - versus the Position tool, for example, or the Blade tool). If you find yourself pressing Z and then releasing it before you draw your rectangle to zoom in, you'll have to hit the A key to get back to the Selection tool (or B for Blade or P for Position or T for Trim). 3. I have Command Post on my list of apps to download. I just got Better Touch Tool and am figuring that out for my Trackpad (hoping to do a video about it), but tonight I'm going to kick back after the Super Bowl and check out some vids on Command Post for sure. Definitely want to see how I can implement it with my Stream Deck, especially if I can program a few things in FCP that *don't* have keyboard shortcuts (stuff in the menus in the upper left, for example). Definitely look into getting Stream Deck mobile on an iPad. The app is made for the iPhone only - as far as resolution goes - so if you use it on a larger iPad with a Retina display, the app doesn't look very crisp and sharp. I use it on an iPad Mini 2 so the app still looks nice since the resolution isn't very high on. And I went for the iPad version of Stream Deck because I had a suspicion that the physical buttons would be a bit more difficult to press, and I want the instant responsiveness of the iPad Mini. I recently installed a Mob Armor magnet mount for the iPad so I could get a better angle for it and so it wouldn't be at risk of falling backward when using the Smart Cover. I digress! Hope the Zoom info helps! It certainly has helped my workflow, and I can't believe I didn't know about years ago!
Duuude, I SWEAR I did the rectangle thing by accident the other day (so prob was too quick trying to do something else while zooming) and then couldn’t make it happen again, then thought I was dreaming, as I use “rubberband zoom” (a modifier + mouse drag) in Logic all the time in addition to actual ‘zoom to selected’ kc 😂🤦🏻♂️🤯 If that works like I gather from your description, it’ll be a tenfold productivity jump for me! THANKS! Don’t mind me, prep for & enjoy the super bowl... but one more thing I thought about? If I edited out all the ummms & ammms (and I kinda do), there an f-ton of twitchy jump cuts in my videos. Like not necessarily the cool zoom in 120% for punctuation... It comes from me thinking as I speak and while it’s probably just about fine in normal conversation or when, say, live streaming, it’s IMO slow and could be distracting in an edited video (the ummms), but so can the cuts. When I use a prompter & a script, I feel like you can so clearly see I’m reading, and when I use keywords only, then it’s back to “thinking as I speak”. You ever struggle with this? Any tips, other than “know your shit and practice speaking”? ;)
So indeed, it works as you described, it's not that I doubted that (and I'm actually now sure I did accidentally do it earlier), but in FCP vs. Logic there's a crucial difference: While it works beautifully to zoom in to the area you want to, in Logic you then use the same modifier (held, if you want to come right back, or press again later, after and edit, for eg.) and click on an empty arrangement spot, the background, and it zooms you back to the level you were before. Seems in FCP you need to now use a different kc (like add shift+Z) to zoom back out and it won't go to the same "depth" you were before. It's of course a matter of getting used to, but the "I'll just peek in here right quick" workflow of nearly 20 years in Logic is quite deep ingrained, so I wish they'd add that, or that for eg. Command Post would help there. (Looking into it)
Yeah, the old teleprompter is a tough one. I have started using my teleprompter in a few vids for two reasons: the script I write can be used on Medium.com and my videos are much more focused, easy to understand, and smoother. I have produced a lot content for clients using a teleprompter so that, combined with my acting training from acting school, has helped me A LOT with the prompter. Now I'm not a master at it by any means, but when I edit my vids done with the prompter, I feel that, overall, the information is just more pleasant to digest for the viewer. Of course, when I do my tutorials vids where I'm sitting in the edit bay, I will most likely keep those more "off the cuff" and freestyle them. I think maybe you just need to be a little less strict with your ums and ahhs when editing. If cutting one out makes for a rougher, choppier edit, leave it in. A few here and there isn't going to bother anyone while having the rhythm of your cuts feel off to the viewer will. Something else you can do is try to cover the cuts that are fast or choppy with more b-roll. It adds more work to your vids, but it can make for the smoothest experience overall for your viewers to have your ums/ahhh gone but then b-roll to cover the quick cuts of your a-roll. I'm incorporating more and more b-roll in my vids where I'm speaking to the camera in that freestyle/improv manner.
Great to know the subtle differences between how Logic Pro handles that kind of zoom versus Final Cut. Use the "Provide Final Cut Pro Feedback" option in the "Final Cut Pro" upper left menu in FCP to tell Apple to enhance the Zoom tool by making it similar to Logic Pro. There have to be a TON of musicians who use Logic AND FCP for RUclips and other content creation, and it only makes sense to find overlap between the apps where appropriate. I use the Feedback option often.
Ok Matthew I have had this trackpad for 10 years and have never used it until this video! What was I thinking! Thanks for converting me I find it much more easier to work in Final Cut Pro and for all around use on my Mac!
Now that's what I'm talkin' about, Rob! How long did it take you to get used to three-finger-drag and then at what point were you like, "You know what, I love this!!!" Just curious...
@@matthewTobrien I just started today so it will be a learning curve! I am just glad that someone made me realize the key benefits to using the trackpad who knew lol!!!
Hi Matthew. Great video! I have both a Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad and find myself using the trackpad 99% of the time. The one thing I don't like it for is dragging and dropping lots of files between folders. I don't have my sensitivity super high and sometimes run out of trackpad surface before I reach the destination of where I want to drop the files, but that usually happens when I have small sized folders on opposite sides of the screen and forgot to move them closer tougher before starting my drag. Overall, the trackpad is much more powerful, and when I'm using my laptop by itself, the gestures are identical, so I don't have to remember anything new. Interestingly, I also have a PC laptop and can't stand its trackpad. The surface has a "sticky" feel, and sliding my finger around isn't a smooth experience.
Thanks for watching, Mark! Regarding dragging and dropping, do you have Three-Finger Drag enabled? If you do, you can easily snag a bunch of files and drag them using the Trackpad...and you won't run out of real estate on the Trackpad because you can lift your fingers where they are (and keep dragging) without losing/dropping the files you're dragging. I have three monitors in my edit bay, and I drag files from Finder (on the far right monitor) over to FCP's Event Browser (on the far left side of my far left monitor) all the time with no trouble. And I hear you about the PC trackpads - whenever I find myself helping my in-laws or family members who have non-Macs, I try to hide my disgust at how unpleasant they are. Oh well.... Let me know if you're able to try Three-Finger Drag with my way of clicking and dragging files. 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@@matthewTobrien THANK YOU!! I didn't know about that feature. The dragging issue seems to happen about every 2 out of 3 times I'm moving a bunch of files, and I have to reach over with my left hand to "hold" the trackpad down while repositioning my fingers. This will be a huge help.
@@MarkDHall I usually hold down the trackpad while readjusting the other finger with the thumb of the same hand. Like that you can’t run out of trackpad space
For anyone who likes using the trackpad, you should check out an app called B.T.T (Better Touch Tool). I have no affiliation with them, i just thinks its an awesome app. It lets you set different profiles for each program you use and completely customise all the gestures on the trackpad way more than apple lets you aswell as adds a bunch of new gestures or even create your own. In fact it lets you customise pretty much all your peripherals but i only use it for the trackpad so can only speak to that. Its pretty cheap and its not perfect but i now have it set up so i can basically do an entire rough edit, without touching the keyboard, using just the trackpad and gestures. Can be a bit tricky remembering all the gestures at first but once you get used to it and build the muscle memory its awesome.
I have had the app installed on my Mac for months, but I haven't sat down and gone through it thoroughly. I know I'll open up a TON of shortcuts, etc. if I do, but I have just not made the time for it. This inspires me to do so! Thanks for watching!
Nice! I sold mine to help pay for the new one a few years back. Both work great - for me I hated swapping batteries, and the angle of incline was a bit too high on the Magic Trackpad 1. Trackpad forever!
@@matthewTobrien Since you switched from Trackpad 1 to 2 I had a question, my magic trackpad 1 never performed really good on a desk fabric mat covers since the buttons below the trackpad were actually mechanical thats why I had to put it directly on my table without anything in between to get the best out of it ,,, is it the same with trackpad 2? is it 100% clickable on any table mats?
The Magic Trackpad 2 has no mechanical clicking - as in, the trackpad doesn't move when you click it. It gives "haptic feedback" to make it feel like it's clicking so you most likely can use it with your fabric mat without any problem. If you buy on Amazon you can always return it if it doesn't work out: Apple Magic Trackpad 2 | Silver | geni.us/zNsIIe0 Apple Magic Trackpad 2 | Space Gray | geni.us/vB7to99 (both links are affiliate links, FYI)
We sure do! But this video is focused on desktop users primarily. When you buy a Mac Pro, an iMac, or a Mac mini, you're typically going to get the Magic Mouse because it's selected by default in the Apple Store. In this video, I'm making a strong argument for the Trackpad. This applies, as well, to folks who use their laptop as a desktop by having the laptop connected to an external monitor and then having the MacBook on a stand or in clamshell mode. In those instances, users need input devices like a keyboard and mouse. I recommend the trackpad over the mouse, though! But never bad to have both!
For the most part I agree with you, the track pad is my first choice in most circumstances. However if I’m trying to edit photos in photoshop I just find it easier for me to use a mouse for more precise control doing things like trying to make selections and using most of the tools. I’ve tried Wacom tablets a few times too, but just couldn’t get use to the whole concept of that tool, though I wish I could.
That’s why I made the video about editing in Final Cut (not trying to be snarky) - I knew that any photo editors watching would point out the precision of a mouse or Wacom tablet, and I don’t disagree. But for FCP I don’t think you need that kind of precision often enough to use a mouse as your main input device. I keep one handy in case I’m doing any complex masking for long stretches of time but even then it almost never comes up that I need to use it. 🖱
@@matthewTobrien it all comes down to the right tool for the job doesn’t it? Just like in woodworking you wouldn’t just have a hammer or even just a single hammer. Tools give you options. My justification for GAS! Haha.
Saw your other video highlighting the three-finger drag. I'm not sure if I'd be exaggerating if I say that it's changed my life, but if I am it's not by much. Thanks!👍
I went back and fort for months now either I should buy a Magic Trackpad or not. I have 3 magic mice (no, I’m not crazy, just came with different devices) and loving it, can work 8 hours straight with one (but then again for documents and office related work). I think you just made me want to buy a track pad for FCPX
It's worth a serious look - I mean, the Magic Mouse is great, and I used one for years and years but then I started doing more editing on my laptop and realized that the trackpad is capable of so much more. As soon as I enabled Three Finger Drag and learned the FCP tricks I knew I would never go back to a mouse. What's funny is that BEFORE that I wasn't bothered by the mouse clicking - it was only after using the trackpad for so long and enjoying the silence of it that I started to even notice the sound of a clicking mouse. 🤷🏻♂️ I'm team Magic Trackpad all the way. Obviously.
I am left handed and struggling to find a mouse better then the magic mouse for final cut pro. I love he magic mouse horizontal scrolling with a single finger. so you have really helped me with my decision. now to look at keyboards. Thoughts? Wife isn't a fan on the small keys
Glad to hear it! I'm left-handed as well! Kinda. I write right-handed but throw left-handed. So... Yay for ambidexterity, I guess. As far as keyboards go, I love the Apple keyboards. I recently replaced my Magic Keyboard with the Magic Keyboard with TouchID and the TouchID feature alone made it beyond worth the $149 price tag. I like that it's relatively quiet in comparison to some of the big, chunky mechanical keyboards so many RUclipsrs seem to love.
Hardest thing i find about trackpad is click and drag, Its easy to click and drag with mouse but with trackpad you have to put more pressure and drag the finger with that pressure
Hi Matthew! i could never use the magic mouse; i had exactly the same problems and discomfort as you. But the trackpad is awesome. The way i use it is that i have the trackpad on the left of my keyboard, and i have a normal mouse to the right of the keyboard. that way i swipe and pinch with my left hand while i “mouse” with my mouse hand. this was immediately intuitive, and i dont believe i am naturally ambidextrous (though i do write with my left hand). oh - the mouse i use is a Logi MX master by the way
That’s an interesting way to use both! And I’ve seen a few other people online who do that as well. I am actually ambidextrous (write right-handed but throw left-handed) and should try this to see if it helps my workflow. Glad you’re able to take advantage of an MX Master!
@@matthewTobrien I thought ambidextrous meant that you have no preference which hand you use for any one activity. By your definition, I’m ambidextrous as well, being a mirror image of your description. Except that I hold a knife and fork right handed, while I hold a spoon in the left. That means I can’t use a fork and spoon properly which makes me also an idiot.
Good question on the specifics. Dictionary.com says “able to use both hands equally well” but it doesn’t specify for a specific task or one hand for one thing and the other for another. 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve got the utensils thing ... but I’m still an idiot. 🤪
I'm glad you mentioned the dropping of the X in FCP. I just started using it and it threw me for a loop for a while wondering if I was getting old software or latest version.
Nice post. For me I use all devices to edit in fcpx + motion.. but not for max efficiency but rather… so if my cat starts messing with me for attention I switch to another device seamlessly lol (ex. Magic Mouse, trackpad, tourbox, better touch tool + keys) 😂 I agree though, comes down to everyone’s preference. I completely hated the mx mouse and refunded.. the programmable buttons were cool but I could never get past losing the intuitive Apple magic scroll gestures. Apple’s design is so perfect and natural, easy to keyframe recording in motion. U can “throw” any parameter with scroll gesture and it feels like a nice realistic speed ramp/curve base on how fast u “threw it” instead of robotic like other mouse scroll wheels. Thanks for sharing and glad to know I wasn’t only one not digging mx as it felt slowing me down
I agree on all fronts! And I'm checking out the Tourbox (I use Stream Deck Mobiel with an iPad) and am really trying to carve out some time to do a deep dive with Better Touch Tool. Everyone keeps mentioning it. Thanks so much for watching!
I like the apple sales pitch...keep my stock moving positive! I was not aware of the extra functionality-thanks for the heads up. It appears I can do the same things on my touch enabled Wacom tablet so I guess I’ll ride that until I need a new toy. Stay safe out there and Happy Filmmaking!
Haha - yeah, you can see I'm kinda all-in with Apple. Thunderbolt Displays, Mac Pro, iPhone, iPads, Apple Watch.... And definitely not needed if your Wacom tablet can handle all of those gestures. You're one of the very few who watch the channel who use one! Thanks for watching!
Definitely have heard that a lot of you use both. I started out thinking I would and always kept my Magic Mouse 2 out and ready to go...and after a week I literally never touched it. There was just never a situation where I felt the Mouse was the better tool for the job. Glad you've got your flow down, Dylan!
@@dylanfgarrison Is that with Three Finger Drag enabled or just doing the ol’ thumb click and use your index finger to move stuff around? For me, Three Finger Drag was THE gesture that made me unable to use a mouse.
@@matthewTobrien Okay. My mouse started cutting out a bit today so I'm challenging myself to use only the pad. So far so good. You're right, the three finger drag is pretty badass. Thanks again for the tip!
I’ve always used Magic Mouse but now moving to trackpad as it’s intuitive when switching between MacBook and hooked up in clamshell mode. Also my desk is quite small so when using a mouse it gets awkward as don’t have enough space
You'll have to let me know how the transition goes and if you find the Trackpad as or more useful than the Magic Mouse. And I hear you on the small desk! I used to have a much smaller desk and it was always a pain - so when I got to build my own I made it practically as wide as the room! Haha. Thanks for watching, Josh!
I have a question: I like the Magic Mouse right now, but am considering switching to the trackpad. Is it hard to drag (even with 3 finger dragging)? Also do your fingers get tired>
I actually think it's much easier to drag, especially over long distances (if you use multiple monitors especially). With the mouse you have to lift it off the surface it's on whereas with three-finger drag you can lift your fingers as many times as you need to. It's hard to explain, but once you get the hang of it it works really, really well. And, no, I personally experience no finger or hand fatigue.
Hey. Enjoying your videos! Thank you! Just QQ, how did you get your iPad set up like that. Is that some kind of sidecar set up? Or an external app? Thanks!!!
I’m using Elgato’s Stream Deck Mobile app! It’s $2.99/month through the App Store. You can program it to execute keyboard shortcuts with the press of a button. I made my own custom set of button icons using Affinity Designer. I love using it while editing, especially the buttons I made for switching multi-cam angles, adding a default title, and the Option + [ or ] keyboard shortcuts. I have a video about it here: ruclips.net/video/CjL_8CqB4Fo/видео.html And you can learn more about the app here: www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deck-mobile
Really appreciate this video, Matthew! I was using the Logitech MX Master 3 for editing in Final Cut, but I had to many connection issues and glitches. I am really excited to try out the Magic Trackpad 2 per your recommendation! 😃
OK, I will admit that you have changed my mind about trackpads. I used to think that mice are the only efficient option. I'm gonna get my hands on one. But I would really suggest that you explore keyboard customization and using macro keys. Please, throw that apple keyboard down the drain and get something that is usable. Or... Make another video as good as this one to convince me that your keyboard is good🤣 rock on dude🤘
Nice! Thanks for being open-minded about the Trackpad. I absolutely love it and three-finger drag was really the clincher for me. I love my Magic Keyboard! I don’t customize very many keyboard shortcuts, but I do have my most commonly used ones programmed to my iPad Mini that’s running Stream Deck Mobile. I’ll link that video in a separate reply. One argument against me specifically customizing keyboard shortcuts is that as a teacher of FCP on RUclips (to many many beginner and intermediate users) I have to use the stock shortcuts in order to make sure the bulk of my audience can follow along. But there are definitely some customizations I could do to be even more of a power user - as well as using Command Post, etc. All in due time. And I’m hoping to attract a collab with Loupedeck at some point. 🤞🏻 Thanks so much for watching!
This is such a helpful and well produced video thank you! I’m trying to decide when purchasing the m1 iMac whether to go for a Magic Trackpad with a third party Bluetooth mouse or the magic trackpad with the Magic Mouse. I tried out the Magic Mouse and I liked it’s special features it has over 'normal' mice, but I wasn’t sure if all of that would be unnecessary if I was primarily using the trackpad. Would you say if I am going to be using a mouse as well as the trackpad anyway if you think the Magic Mouse is worth it, or would a third party mouse I already use would be enough please? ☺️
Thanks for the kind words! And glad my vid has been helpful. If the Magic Trackpad is going to be your daily driver and a mouse would fill in under only under very specific situations, think about what those situations are going to be: simple navigation of docs, the web, messages? Or a tool for more precise work in Photoshop or 3D software or After Effects? If you only need a mouse on occasion for the simplest of tasks, perhaps go with the Magic Mouse. If you need a mouse as a tool for more precise, intensive apps consider something like a Logitech MX Master. I think they’re better ergonomically, they have programmable buttons, and they work well with the higher end creative apps. You know my issues with the clicking - for the creative software I use daily (FCP, Photos, Affinity Designer), the Magic Trackpad 2 can handle it all. Let me know if that helps!
@@matthewTobrien Amazing! Thank you so much for the super informative reply, after considering everything I think I’ll go with the Magic Mouse with the trackpad! Hope you’re having a good weekend ☺️
To be honest I have all 3 including the logitec, my favourite is the logitec, the pad but can’t stand the mouse. It feels so uncomfortable. As u say each person is different, my wife loves using the track pad. 👍
Lucky you! I wish it didn't drive me insane. It only really started to after I switched to the Trackpad...I got so used to the silence that when I tried using a mouse again it drove me INSANE. Thanks for watching!
This video is timely...just ordered magic trackpad 2. I'm was trying to do some frame by frame drawing and my hand is fried after an hour of trying to draw with mouse.
Congrats! Seems to be helping a lot of viewers decide on which input decide to try. I certainly hope it helps your workflow! Although with frame drawing I wonder if a Wacom tablet with pen would be the way to go…. 🤔
@@matthewTobrien awesome, thanks for the quick response! If I can get responses like that to my questions, it will make me (and I'm sure others, as well) use your videos as a source; so, we get answers we need, and you get more views and watch time, so win/win. :) One other quick question: when editing a video (i use i-movie), can you use a trackpad and a mouse simultaneously? Like can I scroll (horizontally) with my left hand on the track pad, and use the mouse to split clips on the mouse with my right hand? It seems this would speed up editing exponentially, but I am not sure if the program can process so many directions in such a short amount of time. Thanks for any input you can offer!
It's an app called Stream Deck Mobile, and I programmed a bunch of complex keyboard shortcuts to be simplified down to just a single button push using the app. Check out a video I made all about it: ruclips.net/video/CjL_8CqB4Fo/видео.html
Thanks so much for this video Matthew! This is exactly the information that I was looking for! I have viewed some of your other videos and they are spot on for what I am looking for as someone that is thinking of starting a RUclips Channel (cooking). New subscriber....
Simple, Apple restricted normal mouse usage in its apps in general,. You can’t even scroll zoom in image in preview anymore, you need an Apple gear to do that. So, what did I do? Switched to Resolve, which does have a much better support to mouse input in general. It’s also silly you can’t use a trackpad on MacBook, once run a secondary screen, because Apple force you to close it. Damn, sometimes Windows is indeed better. Hate to say that.
All solid points, Robert. I’m glad I haven’t run into those kinds of obstacles in my daily use, but I imagine it’s quite frustrating for you. I haven’t used Windows in probably 10+ yrs.
I'm really really liking the content you're putting out, Matt! However I'm a PC user, a Premiere/Media Composer editor, and I LOVE buttons and clicking (silence makes my ADHD crazy, clicking grounds me in a way). Either way, keep it up! Happily binging your channel :)
Thanks so much, Alex! Well, when you decide to ditch Windows and Premiere, this channel will REALLY be for you. Until then, I greatly appreciate you tuning in to see what things are like (when I do FCPX tutorials) on the other side.
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Thank you so much for the breakdown down & your perspective on the really important parameters & helping me make the best decision for me, my friend. Track pad all the way! 👍 Peace 🙏, Peace 🙏, Peace 🙏
While dragging e.g. clips from one monitor to another with the Trackpad I often run into the edge of the Trackpad's surface. Then I need to start dragging again. How do you get around that? I see you are using thee monitors. Also: at least on my Mac, double tapping the Mouse will zoom out and show the whole timeline.
Are you using three-finger drag or traditional trackpad click + hold with your thumb and drag with your index finger? Either way, you can lift your dragging finger(s) repeatedly to drag long distances. You don’t have to keep your fingertip(s) in constant contact with the surface of the trackpad. It’s tricky to get used to but once you do you’ll love the trackpad even more. With the Magic Mouse, you have to have Smart Zoom enabled in System Preferences to be able to zoom out of your timeline in FCP with a one-finger double-tap. Something I thought I did an exhaustive search to determine before I made my video…only to find out I was wrong. I’m going to be making a follow-up/companion video to this one in the coming months and will address it there. Thanks for being polite and kind in questioning my claims in this video. 👍🏻🤘🏻
@@matthewTobrien Damn this is a game changer! I didn't realise that you can simply keep your thumb on the trackpad and then lift the index finger to readjust and drag for longer. Thank you so much! :D This was the only reason why I even tried the Magic Mouse. But with this out of the way the Trackpad is DEFINITELY superior with all the gestures etc.. I also have to look into the three-finger drag sometime... Thanks for the reply, that helped me out a lot! Looking forward to the follow-up video :)
Thanks, man! Cheers from Brazil and a rookie youtuber and video editor! As I need to be both mobile and fast because of my other ocupations (Im also a law teatcher and a high position civil service), Ive decided to go with an ipad pro and the magic trackpad which I think will serve me perfectly to edit on the go as well as for my studies and pdf and/or presentations editing. Thanks again! Awesome content!
Great video !! I recently got a track pad and I agree that it is preferable to the Magic Mouse. One point that really turned me off the MM was the woefully slow tracking speed, even set to max. I also use the Logitech MX Master mouse and love it. Thanks for your efforts. 😏
Why would you use the Magic Trackpad vs the built in one in the laptop? Just wondering because my hand does hurt after a few hours and wondering if this will still happen
The standalone Magic Trackpad 2 - as it pertains to this video - is intended to be used with a desktop configuration. So a Mac Pro or an iMac or a notebook connected to an external display. Some notebook users use a stand to elevate their notebook and then pair it with a Magic Keyboard and Mouse/Trackpad. I wouldn't use the notebook by itself and then add a Magic Trackpad 2 necessarily. But you're right, after extended use the base of my hand/top of my wrists get sore from resting on the top case that surrounds the trackpad on a notebook.
Love the Apple trackpad…using it for last few years and it’s such a better workflow for me. Didn’t know about few of the tips you mentioned. Thank you so much
I have to get a lot of Photo Editing done. I'm tired to clicking on the mouse. My hand gets cramped pretty good. After several years of Editing, if I use the mouse too much, I start losing feeling in some fingertips. I reckon I'll have to spend the extra money on the trackpad, though I wish I could use the Apple Pencil with it.
Magic Trackpad is definitely pricey, but I do love it. I hope it helps with photo editing if you're using a lot of sliders, etc. like Lightroom has. I know folks using Photoshop and doing a lot of retouching don't get much relief with the Trackpad - the power users tend to use Wacom tablets from what I've heard. Keep me posted on your progress!
@@matthewTobrien I'm a PC Lifer gradually switching to Apple after my PC laptop crashed. I bought the 12.9" iPad Pro (M1) thinking it would be the perfect laptop replacement. While I love using the Apple Pencil opposed to my Wacom tablet, the iPad Pro does not Support the full version of Adobe Creative Suite. It's surprisingly limited. Which meant I had to purchase another budget-friendly PC laptop to access the full version. However, the iPad and PC laptop don't sync very well. Saturday, I finally had the funds to purchase the Mac Mini (M2), then I decided to buy the Magic Trackpad (black) yesterday after watching your Review. It works great, but I'm too agitated by the $149 price tag to fully appreciate it. Now, everything in my workflow is Apple except for my mouse, which I still use alongside the Trackpad. ..now it just looks weird, so eventually I'll get the Magic Mouse 2 (black) whenever my budget recovers from what I just got myself into. But why is the Charge port on the bottom? For the Mac Mini, is there no Facial Recognition? I've gotten used to not having the type a password to unlock the screen, etc.
Yes, the Magic Trackpad 2 is not cheap, especially the black version. I have avoided buying a second one for my livestreaming setup because. of the price tag. I've also avoided buying the TouchID Magic Keyboard even though it's so much faster to use TouchID on your keyboard vs. entering your passwords or even clicking to auto-fill your saved passwords. For now I'll stick with the Magic Mouse 2. Which, yes, annoyingly charges on the bottom. I just make it a habit that when I know it's been a while since I last charged it to click on the Bluetooth icon in the Menu Bar to see its charge percentage. If it's under 20% I plug it in when I'm done for the day so I'm not inconvenienced when it dies, and I need to use it. If that ever does happen, Apple was smart enough to make the Lightning connection rapid-charge devices so even just 5 minutes of charging can get you enough battery - most likely - to last the rest of the day. And, yes, there is not FaceID for the iPad mini. I use FaceID with my iPad Pro and my iPhone 13 Pro Max so I too have stared at my iPad mini wondering why it isn't unlocking... It's hilarious how these features become a part of our muscle memory and stop us in our tracks when the device doesn't have the feature we're used to. Also, for more on the Magic Trackpad 2 check out this other video I made about Three Finger Drag: ruclips.net/video/VVTglFlx1y4/видео.html
@@matthewTobrien I purchased the Magic Mouse 2 (black) yesterday. It's not shaped like a typical mouse, which is good because of my hand cramp. But its "click" is very heavy. You really have to apply more pressure than usually to push it down. Combined with the smooth glass, it slips from my hand quite often when I'm clicking. Still figuring out how to hold it. btw, I purchased it for the Mac mini (aka Apple's desktop model). It's on sale at Best Buy for $499 w/ no Sales Tax applied through August 6th.
I am planning to buy a Magic TrackPad 2, since I bought an iMac 4K for video editing, I use my magic Mouse 2 for both FCPX and Premiere Pro. So could you please let me know is Trackpad useful with Premiere Pro as well as FCPX? Thanks in advance.
Premiere Pro is a dirty, dirty, DIRTY word around here! Haha 🤣 Not really. Okay, yeah maybe a little bit. I honestly have no idea how well the Magic Trackpad 2 works with Premiere Pro. I had PP installed for about a year because I had a few clients that wanted edits done in Premiere (I had an editor I hired to handle those because I didn't want to learn the software) but after it proved to costly for the amount of work we were getting, I decided to cancel my subscription and haven't used it since. I suspect the trackpad works fine with PP, but I have a feeling there aren't many gestures for it. But I could be wrong...
@@matthewTobrien Thanks for your quick reply. Actually! I am a freelance video editor, so some of my clients require the project files of Premiere Pro and some require FCPX library bundle, so I need to use both. Just wondering that Timeline zooming with pinch and scrolling works a same like FCPX or not.
@@matthewTobrien Finally! Got the Magic TrackPad 2 today. It's Awesome. Works fine with both FCPX and Premiere Pro. I hope, will get more speed in my workflow.
Good review. I don't understand the point about resting your wrist or heal of your palm while using a mouse, but not with the pad. Don't you rest your hand at all with the trackpad? That does not seem possible to me. I need to know I will actually use the pad if I buy one, so I need to understand the fundamental ergonomics. Thank you.
When I use the Magic Trackpad I don't put the full weight of my hand on my wrist and the heel of my palm because I need to have my hand in a different position than the mouse to do all the gestures/movements. It's a subtle difference but it keeps me from breaking from my work to give my wrist/heel a break. I think this is one of the flaws of the Magic Mouse - it's so low profile that you have to rest your hand/wrist on a surface much more than say a Logitech MX Master mouse that his much more bulbous and meant to contour to your hand when it's in a much more natural position for use. I've thought about this quite a bit! 🤣
@@matthewTobrien That helps. I can envision it better now. I went ahead and bought a trackpad the day I watched your video. Amazon delivered in one day. I'm started using it on a video project. I can see how I will eventually prefer it over a mouse. Once I develop the muscle memory needed to use its full potential.
@@matthewTobrien so they are effectively the same thing? The Magic Trackpad is a way of adding the facility you get from a MacBook Pro to n iMac desktop
Yep. The trackpad is superior. Hands down. But the magic mouse is really good for a mouse. However, among some of the worst things existing on planet earth... dragging a little device around your desk, and clicking sounds. I do NOT know how people put up with that. Oh! I didn't realize a two finger tap would zoom me out! Thanks! Will try later, along with the 3 finger moving trick. I think I have the pointer setting under accessibility set to some other custom function though.
It’s an epic showdown! Let me know who the winner is for you between the two here! And if you haven’t used the Magic Trackpad to edit in Final Cut, why not? Just curious... 🙌🏻🤘🏻
The winner, is BOTH the trackpad & whatever mouse you choose. Put the Magic Trackpad to the left of your keyboard & use your left hand for those gestures while you use your mouse to the right of your keyboard, for the ultimate setup 😎
& vice versa if you’re left(weird)-handed ;)
Don't choose, use both! I use a mouse in my right and the trackpad in the left, this really works amazing in my opinion ! 🙏🏼 (Although I alway use a Wacom, I now also use a MX3)
Love the ambidexterity of that! I would need to train myself for a while to become proficient with the trackpad or the mouse with my left hand.
@@matthewTobrien. It’s easy, it’s mostly just simple swiping gestures
so wait, while editing, u can have both active ?
Yuuuuup. I don’t, but you can if you want to. 👍
@@matthewTobrien definitely can place trackpad on left and keep using magic mouse as my main on the right with the keyboard in middle then. seems Ima buy trackpad and keyboard
The trackpad rocks! I super love it. No regrets here moving from the traditional mouse to a trackpad. BTW, I can also use it with either hand, so I move it from my right side to the left wherever I need it. 😊
Dang! Power user over here! Wish I had ambidexterity with the Magic Trackpad - would that make it TWICE as Magical??? 🤣🪄 Thanks for watching, Marlyse! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
I use both the Magic Mouse & the TrackPad, I don't even think about it, they're both there and I use which ever. Thanks for sharing
You're welcome! And using both is a solid workflow - definitely can see using a mouse with certain apps, especially those that require some real precision. Thanks for watching!
I switched from a standard mouse to the magic trackpad years ago. Love the silence too. The trackpad keeps my wrists straight, I barely move them, and this helps me prevents this stinging feeling I normally get if I move my wrists from left to right too much
Just learned about double-tap to view all clips in the timeline, thanks!
Couldn’t agree more. All the same reason why I love the trackpad too. And keep double-tapping - such a great little gesture for FCP!
Thanks for the video! Many years I'm looking best solution for my video editing process. I tried vertical mouses, apple mouses, multifunctional mouses but finally I'm here with Apple Trackpad.
I hope you love the Magic Trackpad as much as I do!
Thanks for the comparison video.
I use a MacBook Air M1 and a mechanical keyboard (just cause i'm obsessed with the clicky sound) so I am searching for my "perfect" mouse.
I fell in love with MacBook's trackpad that I can't go back to using a mouse (personal preference). Tried using a Logitech pebble and it didn't work for me.
Since I use a mechanical keyboard, I've been thinking of buying either the Magic Mouse or the trackpad for months now, I'm just so torn! Good thing I found your video and I have finally decided to go with a trackpad.
Thank you for sharing your honest review and thoughts!
A lot of those mechanical keyboards are really cool - been seeing a lot of RUclipsrs who use them. Would love to take one for a test drive one of these days - maybe one of those companies will send one to me one day. Until then, I'll stick with my Apple Magic Keyboard.
I think you made the right choice (even if you're not doing video editing). The Magic Trackpad is awesome and since you may be accustomed to using it with your MacBook Air, it's natural to incorporate a standalone trackpad into your workflow. And if you enable three-finger drag? Dang. Game changer.
Thanks for watching my vid (and if you purchased or intend to purchase using my link, THANK YOU! Great way to support the channel since it's an affiliate link).
6:17 Wow. Thanks. The three finger drag eliminates serious fatigue from having to click and hold to drag clips using my Macbook's trackpad. It's the main reason I've been looking for mice and why I've tried the MX Master 3 and Magic Mouse 2. I wish I knew this sooner!
That's what I'm sayin'! So glad you're finding it helpful.
Great video. My problem solved. I was hesitant to use the trackpad because I found it easier to move clips around with the mouse. But your 3 finger solution solved it.
Three-finger drag is AWESOME. Takes a bit to get used to it but once you do you don't know how you lived without it. At least I do. 😋
I love the Magic Mouse 2, especially for scrolling in the timeline. Have an older Apple Trackpad that I haven’t used in a few years, but never liked the angle on it. Tried the Logitech last year and despised it (big, clunky, horrible scrolling, and yes, really loud clicking). Might have to give the Magic Trackpad a try at some point.
I highly recommend it, David! So much better than the Gen 1 Trackpad. The scrolling and all of the other gestures (especially 3-finger drag) make it so much more efficient - in my opinion - to the Magic Mouse 2. Thanks for watching!
This is exactly what i'm looking for!! Thanks
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
This video was terrifyingly specific for what i needed to know xD
I feel like “terrifying specificity” is kinda my jam. 😱😎
I own both the mouse and trackpad AND use both (at times). Far and away I use the trackpad more, in fact quite often the mouse is powered OFF
Yup, same here!
LOL i got a track pad when I purchased iMac last year. Once i used it for FCP, I never went back to the mouse. I’m not even using all of the gestures you mentioned (I learned two news ones I will try out), but once I started using it, I LOVED the lack of that damn clicking sound! I love the track pad for FCP. Thanks for the vid.
Haha - glad I’m not the only one who loves the silence of the Magic Trackpad 2! Let me know how those new gestures you learned work out! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Came into this video trying to decide what to buy but also left with more knowledge on trackpad gestures on my MacBook
Get ready for your world to change with Three Finger Drag 👌🤘
well I bought the track pad today.. then watched this video. Glad I picked the right one hahah
Haha ... like Richard The Lionheart says in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade.... "You chose ...... wisely." 🐍
I completely agree! Just returning the Magic mouse i bought
You'll love the Magic Trackpad 2!
i use magic trackpad with left hand for scrolling and zooming .. mouse with right hand for the old school clicky stuff. both works for me.
Give three finger dragging a try, Gatot - although if your left hand isn't your dominant hand that could be a little tricky.
Wanted to add, the trackpad gestures are amazing outside of FCP too, I find myself naturally scrolling wherever the pointer happens to be (a picture, a webpage window, emails scroll-list, etc) without having to focus-click or tap on said windows... it truly works.
I have settled to using both a mouse and the Trackpad after seeing one video from the subtlecinematics guy (RoyalzProduction now I think?) where he was wooshing through his timeline with both: right hand mouse for precision clicking/dragging/creating-masks/etc and left hand trackpad for more gestures based navigation, in the middle between the two a magic keyboard.
So, for me, the poll choice would have been “both”. Not a Magic Mouse though, it’s ergonomically impossible for me sadly, I use a wired Logitech MX-518 style successors.
Granted it takes some time to get used to do the gestures with the left hand but since it’s not so much about precision it’s possible to get used to it quickly.
I think the Three Finger Drag option enabled would convince some they don’t need the mouse for precision clicking. I use the Trackpad in photo editing, Affinity Designer and never feel like I can’t be precise. 🤷🏻♂️ But again, everyone is different. I’ll have to check out that vid. Thanks for watching, Alej!
I wanted to add one more thing about the Mac trackpads. Because there's no mechanical action inside and the click is actually just haptic feedback, you can press anywhere on the trackpad surface and get a good, solid feeling click. A click on the corners feels that same as if you clicked in the center. With my PC trackpad, it's a mechanical action, and if I press towards the corners or edges, the click feels differently and sometimes may not click at all.
Exactly! Which is why I love the Magic Trackpad 2. It's always strange when I'm working on my 2013 MacBook Pro because the Trackpad does have the physical clicking (vs haptic). I can't wait for M1 (or M1X) 16" MacBook Pros to come out so I can finally update this nearly 8 yr old laptop (that I'm using right now)!
I bought Apple Magic Mouse a few weeks ago and I have decided to just not use it because it’s just ridiculously slow 😫 I am just gonna use my Logitech Pebble Mouse, interesting that you guys use Trackpad, you guys are amazing😎
Thank you! Yeah, the Magic Trackpad is really great, especially in FCP. Logitech has some great mouse products, though. For sure. Thanks for watching!
Matt, this is mammothly helpful. I am convinced to do something I’d never considered: move to the trackpad! Thanks so much again! 💛🙏🏼
Do it! It’s awesome! And you can always keep your mouse close by. In a drawer. All by its lonesome. Like my Magic Mouse 2 is. 😓
long back when tried trackpad, I felt inconvenience. Because trackpad is fixed on the desk. Mouse can be moved as we move our hand postion on the desk.
And I feel the opposite - I don't like having to move the mouse around, I much prefer to glide my hand over the trackpad and have the sensitivity / speed dialed in to make it so I don't really have to move all that much. But it's not for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting!
This editing with the trackpad topic deserves a full video with lots of b-rolls
Thanks btw great video! But I think you really need those big long and especially thick pads for your desk. Don’t hurt your wrist man!
I have a follow-up video that I made about Three-Finger-Drag: ruclips.net/video/VVTglFlx1y4/видео.html
You know, as surprised as I am, I don't have any issues with that because my natural position with using the trackpad is to have my hand elevated off the desk just enough to not ever get sore after prolonged use. I had one I the past when I used a mouse but since switching to the trackpad I haven't needed one. 🤷🏻♂️
Ever since I got my Magic Trackpad 2, I've never gone back to the mouse. I think it even ran away. Thank you for this video!
Those mice do tend to run away. I mean, they are Magic! 🤣🪄🖱
I don't use either. I'm using MX Master 3 for Mac. Gets the video work done.
It seems to be a very popular option. I was surprised it didn’t come up as an answer more often in my poll. I hope Logitech can figure out how to make one that doesn’t click so loudly. I’d love to go try one out.
Whelp, I think I’ll go for the magic track pad. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, good video!
I think you’ll really enjoy it - especially for editing in FCP. Thanks for watching my vid! 🤘🏻🙌🏻
Excellent video and I 100% agree with the advantages of the trackpad!
It's surprisingly more efficient when it comes to Final Cut Pro.
I have my MacBook Air connected via hdmi to my monitor and often use its trackpad, but next to my Magic Keyboard is Magic Mouse 2, which I've customized with gestures using Better Touch Tool. Also, in FCP with Command Post, I've enabled Option + mouse scroll to zoom in and out. Works for me. Though the Magic Mouse 2 was terribly un ergonomic without a mouse pad with wrist rest. Somehow having access to the mouse is comfortable because it's what I'm used to, but I'm kind of curious to try the all trackpad workflow you're talking about.
I think it's worth exploring. 3 Finger Drag makes using the trackpad pretty effortless, and I can't remember the last time my hand hurt using a trackpad all day.
@@matthewTobrien 👍🙏
Matthew, 1) I’ve been a regular and very efficient (I think) trackpad user on the laptop the go for two decades and a mouse user, the last several years the latest Magic Mouse, in the studio. It’s strange, but while I know the gestures with the Magic Trackpad, I have hard time being as accurate and (feel) quick with it as I am with the Magic Mouse. I have both and again gave up with the trackpad last week, it’s just not jiving 100%. I also want to get into it so I can go between them every other day or week so my hand gets a break, or different angle and movement. Also, your way of using the iPad for shortcuts is great, I’ve got and actual Stream Deck (I stream as well) and letting go of the mouse is WAY more disruptive than lifting a finger to push (or even less for iPad tap I’d think) from the trackpad.
2) Do you know of a command that’d ‘zoom to selected’? There’s the zoom all the way out and incremental zoom in, but it’d be hugely beneficial to be able to select a clip, or several, and hit a button to get the selected area filling the timeline. I use that all the time in audio editing.
3) Do you use CommandPost? (CommandPost.io) I’m just looking into it, but seems there are numerous missing FCP commands / features covered + tons other stuff, and you can use it with Stream Deck and other controllers to creat shortcuts and workflows.
Thanks for watching! And I appreciate the thoughtful feedback on your unique experience using the Trackpad and Magic Mouse. I have definitely been hearing that there is a feeling that being precise with the Mouse is one of its biggest benefits. And I completely agree that the Trackpad isn't for everyone - for some, it just doesn't connect to their way of working. One question: do you have Three-Finger Drag enabled? I find that trying to click with my thumb and move stuff around with my index finger is beyond inefficient - but since I enabled three-finger drag I *never* have difficult using the creativity apps I use most frequently - Final Cut Pro, Affinity Designer/Publisher, and Photos. If Three-Finger Drag is enabled in your workflow and you're still bumping up against the precision factor, then I completely agree that it's just not the right tool for the job for you. Keep crushing it - as you obviously are 😎 - with the Magic Mouse.
As far as the Stream Deck goes - I hear you with moving from the Mouse to the Stream Deck, even if it's positioned near your mouse. I should give editing a try with the Magic Mouse to see how much more difficult it is to hit the buttons of the Stream Deck when using the mouse.
As far as zooming goes .... I have *exactly* what you're looking for, and I only learned this trick a couple months ago. Here's what you do:
Press and hold the Z key to activate the Zoom tool (now holding it is key, and I'll explain in a moment) and then use your Mouse to click and drag a rectangle in the space ABOVE the area of your timeline you want to zoom in on. The timeline will snap quickly to zoom into the area that spans the rectangle you just drew. And when you release the Z key, FCP will revert back to the tool you were last using (which is most likely the Selection tool - versus the Position tool, for example, or the Blade tool). If you find yourself pressing Z and then releasing it before you draw your rectangle to zoom in, you'll have to hit the A key to get back to the Selection tool (or B for Blade or P for Position or T for Trim).
3. I have Command Post on my list of apps to download. I just got Better Touch Tool and am figuring that out for my Trackpad (hoping to do a video about it), but tonight I'm going to kick back after the Super Bowl and check out some vids on Command Post for sure. Definitely want to see how I can implement it with my Stream Deck, especially if I can program a few things in FCP that *don't* have keyboard shortcuts (stuff in the menus in the upper left, for example).
Definitely look into getting Stream Deck mobile on an iPad. The app is made for the iPhone only - as far as resolution goes - so if you use it on a larger iPad with a Retina display, the app doesn't look very crisp and sharp. I use it on an iPad Mini 2 so the app still looks nice since the resolution isn't very high on. And I went for the iPad version of Stream Deck because I had a suspicion that the physical buttons would be a bit more difficult to press, and I want the instant responsiveness of the iPad Mini. I recently installed a Mob Armor magnet mount for the iPad so I could get a better angle for it and so it wouldn't be at risk of falling backward when using the Smart Cover. I digress! Hope the Zoom info helps! It certainly has helped my workflow, and I can't believe I didn't know about years ago!
Duuude, I SWEAR I did the rectangle thing by accident the other day (so prob was too quick trying to do something else while zooming) and then couldn’t make it happen again, then thought I was dreaming, as I use “rubberband zoom” (a modifier + mouse drag) in Logic all the time in addition to actual ‘zoom to selected’ kc 😂🤦🏻♂️🤯 If that works like I gather from your description, it’ll be a tenfold productivity jump for me! THANKS!
Don’t mind me, prep for & enjoy the super bowl... but one more thing I thought about? If I edited out all the ummms & ammms (and I kinda do), there an f-ton of twitchy jump cuts in my videos. Like not necessarily the cool zoom in 120% for punctuation... It comes from me thinking as I speak and while it’s probably just about fine in normal conversation or when, say, live streaming, it’s IMO slow and could be distracting in an edited video (the ummms), but so can the cuts. When I use a prompter & a script, I feel like you can so clearly see I’m reading, and when I use keywords only, then it’s back to “thinking as I speak”. You ever struggle with this? Any tips, other than “know your shit and practice speaking”? ;)
So indeed, it works as you described, it's not that I doubted that (and I'm actually now sure I did accidentally do it earlier), but in FCP vs. Logic there's a crucial difference: While it works beautifully to zoom in to the area you want to, in Logic you then use the same modifier (held, if you want to come right back, or press again later, after and edit, for eg.) and click on an empty arrangement spot, the background, and it zooms you back to the level you were before. Seems in FCP you need to now use a different kc (like add shift+Z) to zoom back out and it won't go to the same "depth" you were before. It's of course a matter of getting used to, but the "I'll just peek in here right quick" workflow of nearly 20 years in Logic is quite deep ingrained, so I wish they'd add that, or that for eg. Command Post would help there. (Looking into it)
Yeah, the old teleprompter is a tough one. I have started using my teleprompter in a few vids for two reasons: the script I write can be used on Medium.com and my videos are much more focused, easy to understand, and smoother. I have produced a lot content for clients using a teleprompter so that, combined with my acting training from acting school, has helped me A LOT with the prompter. Now I'm not a master at it by any means, but when I edit my vids done with the prompter, I feel that, overall, the information is just more pleasant to digest for the viewer. Of course, when I do my tutorials vids where I'm sitting in the edit bay, I will most likely keep those more "off the cuff" and freestyle them. I think maybe you just need to be a little less strict with your ums and ahhs when editing. If cutting one out makes for a rougher, choppier edit, leave it in. A few here and there isn't going to bother anyone while having the rhythm of your cuts feel off to the viewer will. Something else you can do is try to cover the cuts that are fast or choppy with more b-roll. It adds more work to your vids, but it can make for the smoothest experience overall for your viewers to have your ums/ahhh gone but then b-roll to cover the quick cuts of your a-roll. I'm incorporating more and more b-roll in my vids where I'm speaking to the camera in that freestyle/improv manner.
Great to know the subtle differences between how Logic Pro handles that kind of zoom versus Final Cut. Use the "Provide Final Cut Pro Feedback" option in the "Final Cut Pro" upper left menu in FCP to tell Apple to enhance the Zoom tool by making it similar to Logic Pro. There have to be a TON of musicians who use Logic AND FCP for RUclips and other content creation, and it only makes sense to find overlap between the apps where appropriate. I use the Feedback option often.
Ok Matthew I have had this trackpad for 10 years and have never used it until this video! What was I thinking! Thanks for converting me I find it much more easier to work in Final Cut Pro and for all around use on my Mac!
Now that's what I'm talkin' about, Rob! How long did it take you to get used to three-finger-drag and then at what point were you like, "You know what, I love this!!!" Just curious...
@@matthewTobrien I just started today so it will be a learning curve! I am just glad that someone made me realize the key benefits to using the trackpad who knew lol!!!
Nice! Well, let me know how it goes. 🤘🏻
Hi Matthew. Great video! I have both a Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad and find myself using the trackpad 99% of the time. The one thing I don't like it for is dragging and dropping lots of files between folders. I don't have my sensitivity super high and sometimes run out of trackpad surface before I reach the destination of where I want to drop the files, but that usually happens when I have small sized folders on opposite sides of the screen and forgot to move them closer tougher before starting my drag. Overall, the trackpad is much more powerful, and when I'm using my laptop by itself, the gestures are identical, so I don't have to remember anything new. Interestingly, I also have a PC laptop and can't stand its trackpad. The surface has a "sticky" feel, and sliding my finger around isn't a smooth experience.
Thanks for watching, Mark! Regarding dragging and dropping, do you have Three-Finger Drag enabled? If you do, you can easily snag a bunch of files and drag them using the Trackpad...and you won't run out of real estate on the Trackpad because you can lift your fingers where they are (and keep dragging) without losing/dropping the files you're dragging. I have three monitors in my edit bay, and I drag files from Finder (on the far right monitor) over to FCP's Event Browser (on the far left side of my far left monitor) all the time with no trouble.
And I hear you about the PC trackpads - whenever I find myself helping my in-laws or family members who have non-Macs, I try to hide my disgust at how unpleasant they are. Oh well.... Let me know if you're able to try Three-Finger Drag with my way of clicking and dragging files. 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@@matthewTobrien THANK YOU!! I didn't know about that feature. The dragging issue seems to happen about every 2 out of 3 times I'm moving a bunch of files, and I have to reach over with my left hand to "hold" the trackpad down while repositioning my fingers. This will be a huge help.
So glad to hear that, Mark! Let me know how it goes! It definitely takes a second to get used to....
@@MarkDHall I usually hold down the trackpad while readjusting the other finger with the thumb of the same hand. Like that you can’t run out of trackpad space
@@jimi272 Great tip! That's what I usually do that too now. It sometimes feels weird to use 2 hands on the trackpad, but it sure does work good.
For anyone who likes using the trackpad, you should check out an app called B.T.T (Better Touch Tool). I have no affiliation with them, i just thinks its an awesome app. It lets you set different profiles for each program you use and completely customise all the gestures on the trackpad way more than apple lets you aswell as adds a bunch of new gestures or even create your own. In fact it lets you customise pretty much all your peripherals but i only use it for the trackpad so can only speak to that. Its pretty cheap and its not perfect but i now have it set up so i can basically do an entire rough edit, without touching the keyboard, using just the trackpad and gestures. Can be a bit tricky remembering all the gestures at first but once you get used to it and build the muscle memory its awesome.
I have had the app installed on my Mac for months, but I haven't sat down and gone through it thoroughly. I know I'll open up a TON of shortcuts, etc. if I do, but I have just not made the time for it. This inspires me to do so! Thanks for watching!
Great video,
My Magic Trackpad 1 is exactly 10 years old now and I have edited thousands of videos with it and I am not upgrading anytime soon 😁
Nice! I sold mine to help pay for the new one a few years back. Both work great - for me I hated swapping batteries, and the angle of incline was a bit too high on the Magic Trackpad 1. Trackpad forever!
@@matthewTobrien Since you switched from Trackpad 1 to 2 I had a question,
my magic trackpad 1 never performed really good on a desk fabric mat covers since the buttons below the trackpad were actually mechanical thats why I had to put it directly on my table without anything in between to get the best out of it ,,, is it the same with trackpad 2? is it 100% clickable on any table mats?
The Magic Trackpad 2 has no mechanical clicking - as in, the trackpad doesn't move when you click it. It gives "haptic feedback" to make it feel like it's clicking so you most likely can use it with your fabric mat without any problem. If you buy on Amazon you can always return it if it doesn't work out:
Apple Magic Trackpad 2 | Silver | geni.us/zNsIIe0
Apple Magic Trackpad 2 | Space Gray | geni.us/vB7to99
(both links are affiliate links, FYI)
@@matthewTobrien Perfect! thank you so much for your help!
Don’t we have a track pad in the MacBook Pro anyway? I’m new , forgive me 😀
We sure do! But this video is focused on desktop users primarily. When you buy a Mac Pro, an iMac, or a Mac mini, you're typically going to get the Magic Mouse because it's selected by default in the Apple Store. In this video, I'm making a strong argument for the Trackpad.
This applies, as well, to folks who use their laptop as a desktop by having the laptop connected to an external monitor and then having the MacBook on a stand or in clamshell mode. In those instances, users need input devices like a keyboard and mouse. I recommend the trackpad over the mouse, though! But never bad to have both!
For the most part I agree with you, the track pad is my first choice in most circumstances. However if I’m trying to edit photos in photoshop I just find it easier for me to use a mouse for more precise control doing things like trying to make selections and using most of the tools. I’ve tried Wacom tablets a few times too, but just couldn’t get use to the whole concept of that tool, though I wish I could.
That’s why I made the video about editing in Final Cut (not trying to be snarky) - I knew that any photo editors watching would point out the precision of a mouse or Wacom tablet, and I don’t disagree. But for FCP I don’t think you need that kind of precision often enough to use a mouse as your main input device. I keep one handy in case I’m doing any complex masking for long stretches of time but even then it almost never comes up that I need to use it. 🖱
@@matthewTobrien it all comes down to the right tool for the job doesn’t it? Just like in woodworking you wouldn’t just have a hammer or even just a single hammer. Tools give you options. My justification for GAS! Haha.
Agreed! 🙌🏻🤣
Great video! (computer programmer here) I was looking for something just like this to make my final decision. I'm going for the trackpad!!!!
So glad it was helpful, Diego! You won’t regret it, especially with three-finger drag enabled. And great to meet a fellow O’ !
Saw your other video highlighting the three-finger drag. I'm not sure if I'd be exaggerating if I say that it's changed my life, but if I am it's not by much. Thanks!👍
Isn’t it great??? Completely changed the game for me, and I can’t imagine life without it. 🤘🏻🙌🏻
I went back and fort for months now either I should buy a Magic Trackpad or not. I have 3 magic mice (no, I’m not crazy, just came with different devices) and loving it, can work 8 hours straight with one (but then again for documents and office related work). I think you just made me want to buy a track pad for FCPX
It's worth a serious look - I mean, the Magic Mouse is great, and I used one for years and years but then I started doing more editing on my laptop and realized that the trackpad is capable of so much more. As soon as I enabled Three Finger Drag and learned the FCP tricks I knew I would never go back to a mouse. What's funny is that BEFORE that I wasn't bothered by the mouse clicking - it was only after using the trackpad for so long and enjoying the silence of it that I started to even notice the sound of a clicking mouse. 🤷🏻♂️ I'm team Magic Trackpad all the way. Obviously.
I am left handed and struggling to find a mouse better then the magic mouse for final cut pro. I love he magic mouse horizontal scrolling with a single finger. so you have really helped me with my decision. now to look at keyboards. Thoughts? Wife isn't a fan on the small keys
Glad to hear it! I'm left-handed as well! Kinda. I write right-handed but throw left-handed. So... Yay for ambidexterity, I guess. As far as keyboards go, I love the Apple keyboards. I recently replaced my Magic Keyboard with the Magic Keyboard with TouchID and the TouchID feature alone made it beyond worth the $149 price tag. I like that it's relatively quiet in comparison to some of the big, chunky mechanical keyboards so many RUclipsrs seem to love.
Hardest thing i find about trackpad is click and drag, Its easy to click and drag with mouse but with trackpad you have to put more pressure and drag the finger with that pressure
You gotta enable Three Finger Drag - it’s what unlocks the magic of the Magic Trackpad (which I talk about later in the video).
Hi Matthew! i could never use the magic mouse; i had exactly the same problems and discomfort as you. But the trackpad is awesome. The way i use it is that i have the trackpad on the left of my keyboard, and i have a normal mouse to the right of the keyboard. that way i swipe and pinch with my left hand while i “mouse” with my mouse hand. this was immediately intuitive, and i dont believe i am naturally ambidextrous (though i do write with my left hand). oh - the mouse i use is a Logi MX master by the way
That’s an interesting way to use both! And I’ve seen a few other people online who do that as well. I am actually ambidextrous (write right-handed but throw left-handed) and should try this to see if it helps my workflow. Glad you’re able to take advantage of an MX Master!
@@matthewTobrien I thought ambidextrous meant that you have no preference which hand you use for any one activity. By your definition, I’m ambidextrous as well, being a mirror image of your description. Except that I hold a knife and fork right handed, while I hold a spoon in the left. That means I can’t use a fork and spoon properly which makes me also an idiot.
Good question on the specifics. Dictionary.com says “able to use both hands equally well” but it doesn’t specify for a specific task or one hand for one thing and the other for another. 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve got the utensils thing ... but I’m still an idiot. 🤪
I'm glad you mentioned the dropping of the X in FCP. I just started using it and it threw me for a loop for a while wondering if I was getting old software or latest version.
Just noticed it in the last week or two. I winder if this means 11.0.0 is coming out soon!?!
Nice post. For me I use all devices to edit in fcpx + motion.. but not for max efficiency but rather… so if my cat starts messing with me for attention I switch to another device seamlessly lol (ex. Magic Mouse, trackpad, tourbox, better touch tool + keys) 😂
I agree though, comes down to everyone’s preference. I completely hated the mx mouse and refunded.. the programmable buttons were cool but I could never get past losing the intuitive Apple magic scroll gestures. Apple’s design is so perfect and natural, easy to keyframe recording in motion. U can “throw” any parameter with scroll gesture and it feels like a nice realistic speed ramp/curve base on how fast u “threw it” instead of robotic like other mouse scroll wheels.
Thanks for sharing and glad to know I wasn’t only one not digging mx as it felt slowing me down
I agree on all fronts! And I'm checking out the Tourbox (I use Stream Deck Mobiel with an iPad) and am really trying to carve out some time to do a deep dive with Better Touch Tool. Everyone keeps mentioning it. Thanks so much for watching!
@@matthewTobrien likewise bud!
Yooo great vid! exactly what i was looking for : )
So glad to hear that! Thanks so much for watching!
I like the apple sales pitch...keep my stock moving positive!
I was not aware of the extra functionality-thanks for the heads up. It appears I can do the same things on my touch enabled Wacom tablet so I guess I’ll ride that until I need a new toy. Stay safe out there and Happy Filmmaking!
Haha - yeah, you can see I'm kinda all-in with Apple. Thunderbolt Displays, Mac Pro, iPhone, iPads, Apple Watch.... And definitely not needed if your Wacom tablet can handle all of those gestures. You're one of the very few who watch the channel who use one! Thanks for watching!
Greatest comparison I found so far. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching, Abdallah!
Awesome. Thank you for reading the instructions on a video for us
My original plan was to perform the instructions as an interpretive dance.
Totally agree...Magic Trackpad for editing rules ok
Glad you're in agreement, Simon! Thanks for tuning in!
Finally found the video I needed.
That's terrific! So glad my vid was the one! So what's the verdict? Mouse or trackpad for you?
Buy both, use both 😃 ! Best of both worlds !
Good to have both available even if you use one way more than the other. Thanks for watching, Justin!
I use both in conjunction. Left hand on the trackpad and right on the mouse. Mostly I just use the trackpad to quickly zoom in and out.
yep, and the 2 finger swipe to move the timeline along - got any more tips?
Definitely have heard that a lot of you use both. I started out thinking I would and always kept my Magic Mouse 2 out and ready to go...and after a week I literally never touched it. There was just never a situation where I felt the Mouse was the better tool for the job. Glad you've got your flow down, Dylan!
@@matthewTobrien yeah... I just can’t click drag and drop with the pad. It’s infuriating every time I try :)
@@dylanfgarrison Is that with Three Finger Drag enabled or just doing the ol’ thumb click and use your index finger to move stuff around? For me, Three Finger Drag was THE gesture that made me unable to use a mouse.
@@matthewTobrien Okay. My mouse started cutting out a bit today so I'm challenging myself to use only the pad. So far so good. You're right, the three finger drag is pretty badass. Thanks again for the tip!
Magic Trackpad for the win. Been using it for many years. 😊
So good!
I’ve always used Magic Mouse but now moving to trackpad as it’s intuitive when switching between MacBook and hooked up in clamshell mode. Also my desk is quite small so when using a mouse it gets awkward as don’t have enough space
You'll have to let me know how the transition goes and if you find the Trackpad as or more useful than the Magic Mouse. And I hear you on the small desk! I used to have a much smaller desk and it was always a pain - so when I got to build my own I made it practically as wide as the room! Haha. Thanks for watching, Josh!
Wish the space grey version was still available.
I know! eBay is about your only option...
Awesome vid! Currently looking into both devices for final cut Pro. This vid is exactly what I was looking! 🙏
Nice! So glad it may have helped you make a decision to buy. If you get both, let me know which one you end up preferring!
I have a question: I like the Magic Mouse right now, but am considering switching to the trackpad. Is it hard to drag (even with 3 finger dragging)? Also do your fingers get tired>
I actually think it's much easier to drag, especially over long distances (if you use multiple monitors especially). With the mouse you have to lift it off the surface it's on whereas with three-finger drag you can lift your fingers as many times as you need to. It's hard to explain, but once you get the hang of it it works really, really well. And, no, I personally experience no finger or hand fatigue.
@@matthewTobrien Alright thanks! I use my laptop with a monitor so maybe this will work! Price is the only issue...
Understood. Definitely a pricey item.
Hey. Enjoying your videos! Thank you! Just QQ, how did you get your iPad set up like that. Is that some kind of sidecar set up? Or an external app? Thanks!!!
I’m using Elgato’s Stream Deck Mobile app! It’s $2.99/month through the App Store. You can program it to execute keyboard shortcuts with the press of a button. I made my own custom set of button icons using Affinity Designer. I love using it while editing, especially the buttons I made for switching multi-cam angles, adding a default title, and the Option + [ or ] keyboard shortcuts.
I have a video about it here:
ruclips.net/video/CjL_8CqB4Fo/видео.html
And you can learn more about the app here:
www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deck-mobile
@@matthewTobrien Thank you for the reply. Very cool. You rock!!!
Really appreciate this video, Matthew! I was using the Logitech MX Master 3 for editing in Final Cut, but I had to many connection issues and glitches. I am really excited to try out the Magic Trackpad 2 per your recommendation! 😃
Let me know how you like it, Daniel!
OK, I will admit that you have changed my mind about trackpads. I used to think that mice are the only efficient option. I'm gonna get my hands on one. But I would really suggest that you explore keyboard customization and using macro keys. Please, throw that apple keyboard down the drain and get something that is usable. Or... Make another video as good as this one to convince me that your keyboard is good🤣 rock on dude🤘
Nice! Thanks for being open-minded about the Trackpad. I absolutely love it and three-finger drag was really the clincher for me.
I love my Magic Keyboard! I don’t customize very many keyboard shortcuts, but I do have my most commonly used ones programmed to my iPad Mini that’s running Stream Deck Mobile. I’ll link that video in a separate reply.
One argument against me specifically customizing keyboard shortcuts is that as a teacher of FCP on RUclips (to many many beginner and intermediate users) I have to use the stock shortcuts in order to make sure the bulk of my audience can follow along.
But there are definitely some customizations I could do to be even more of a power user - as well as using Command Post, etc. All in due time. And I’m hoping to attract a collab with Loupedeck at some point. 🤞🏻
Thanks so much for watching!
Here’s that Stream Deck Mobile vid:
ruclips.net/video/CjL_8CqB4Fo/видео.html
@@matthewTobrien gonna watch it now!
This is such a helpful and well produced video thank you! I’m trying to decide when purchasing the m1 iMac whether to go for a Magic Trackpad with a third party Bluetooth mouse or the magic trackpad with the Magic Mouse. I tried out the Magic Mouse and I liked it’s special features it has over 'normal' mice, but I wasn’t sure if all of that would be unnecessary if I was primarily using the trackpad. Would you say if I am going to be using a mouse as well as the trackpad anyway if you think the Magic Mouse is worth it, or would a third party mouse I already use would be enough please? ☺️
Thanks for the kind words! And glad my vid has been helpful. If the Magic Trackpad is going to be your daily driver and a mouse would fill in under only under very specific situations, think about what those situations are going to be: simple navigation of docs, the web, messages? Or a tool for more precise work in Photoshop or 3D software or After Effects? If you only need a mouse on occasion for the simplest of tasks, perhaps go with the Magic Mouse. If you need a mouse as a tool for more precise, intensive apps consider something like a Logitech MX Master. I think they’re better ergonomically, they have programmable buttons, and they work well with the higher end creative apps.
You know my issues with the clicking - for the creative software I use daily (FCP, Photos, Affinity Designer), the Magic Trackpad 2 can handle it all. Let me know if that helps!
@@matthewTobrien Amazing! Thank you so much for the super informative reply, after considering everything I think I’ll go with the Magic Mouse with the trackpad! Hope you’re having a good weekend ☺️
I am! And you’re welcome. Enjoy both Magic devices! 🪄
I want the fancy black one!
Ohhhh yeah, I hear ya. If they made the small Magic Keyboard in Space Gray I'd definitely get them both! Thanks for watching, dude!
Thank you so much! I guess I am going for the trackpad now!
You’ll love it!!! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
This video is useful for me, thx so much
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I use the trackpad of my MacBook Pro with my thumb while I’m using differents shortcuts on the keyboard… I’m lazy
Haha - whatever works best for you!
sold! have to try a trackpad now.thanks,great video
Nice! I think you'll really enjoy it. I sure do! Thanks for watching!
Can’t use my Magic Mouse 2 on the couch seat very well though. Waiting to try out the TourBox. Still watching...
Yup, looking forward to hearing about the TourBox....
Just upgraded from a 2016 MBP to the new iMac and OML its such a pain editing on fcp with the Magic Mouse. Definitely picking up a trackpad today
Nice! I certainly love mine, and I'm sure you will too.
Don't the M1 iMacs come with a trackpad?
@@EricRamz It's optional but it costs about $120 CAD more
Yeah, standard equipment is the Magic Mouse 2. Have to upgrade to the Magic Trackpad 2.
I Definitely use the trackpad full blast
Awwwww yeah.
To be honest I have all 3 including the logitec, my favourite is the logitec, the pad but can’t stand the mouse. It feels so uncomfortable. As u say each person is different, my wife loves using the track pad. 👍
Dang, Aziz! I call that the Hat Trick! Good on you (and your wife!) 🤣👏🏻
try using the trackpad with the left hand and the mouse with the right. they both work together!
I will still use the Magic Mouse because I love the clicking noise
Lucky you! I wish it didn't drive me insane. It only really started to after I switched to the Trackpad...I got so used to the silence that when I tried using a mouse again it drove me INSANE. Thanks for watching!
This video is timely...just ordered magic trackpad 2. I'm was trying to do some frame by frame drawing and my hand is fried after an hour of trying to draw with mouse.
Congrats! Seems to be helping a lot of viewers decide on which input decide to try. I certainly hope it helps your workflow! Although with frame drawing I wonder if a Wacom tablet with pen would be the way to go…. 🤔
MacBook users could get the mouse and use the gestures on the built in pad? Using both, right?
This is true!
Amazing video! Love it! Thanks
Thanks so much, Camila!
can you still use the trackpad without bluetooth? Can you plug it in a port and use without turning on bluetooth?
You sure can! 👍🏻
@@matthewTobrien awesome, thanks for the quick response! If I can get responses like that to my questions, it will make me (and I'm sure others, as well) use your videos as a source; so, we get answers we need, and you get more views and watch time, so win/win. :)
One other quick question: when editing a video (i use i-movie), can you use a trackpad and a mouse simultaneously? Like can I scroll (horizontally) with my left hand on the track pad, and use the mouse to split clips on the mouse with my right hand?
It seems this would speed up editing exponentially, but I am not sure if the program can process so many directions in such a short amount of time. Thanks for any input you can offer!
Yup, you can use them both at the same time. A lot of comments on this vid are about exactly that - trackpad with one hand, mouse with the other. 👍🏻
How do you make your iPad pop up with that stuff for final cut ?
It's an app called Stream Deck Mobile, and I programmed a bunch of complex keyboard shortcuts to be simplified down to just a single button push using the app. Check out a video I made all about it: ruclips.net/video/CjL_8CqB4Fo/видео.html
Have you tried using BetterTouchTool to add even more gestures? I’m came across this idea and going to try it.
Edwin! Yes. I bought it but haven't set it up yet. It's on my to-do list!
Damn, thanks for that 3 finger drag tip.
It’s a game-changer for sure. 🤘🏻
Quality content Matthew! Thank you.
You're welcome! Thanks so much for watching!
Great video. I really enjoyed the comparison.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for this video Matthew! This is exactly the information that I was looking for!
I have viewed some of your other videos and they are spot on for what I am looking for as someone that is thinking of starting a RUclips Channel (cooking). New subscriber....
Awesome! Glad to hear that, Katy! Good luck with channel! Drop a link when you can....
how often would you say you have to charge the trackpad?
Maybe once a month? Every 6 weeks?
Simple, Apple restricted normal mouse usage in its apps in general,. You can’t even scroll zoom in image in preview anymore, you need an Apple gear to do that.
So, what did I do? Switched to Resolve, which does have a much better support to mouse input in general. It’s also silly you can’t use a trackpad on MacBook, once run a secondary screen, because Apple force you to close it. Damn, sometimes Windows is indeed better. Hate to say that.
All solid points, Robert. I’m glad I haven’t run into those kinds of obstacles in my daily use, but I imagine it’s quite frustrating for you. I haven’t used Windows in probably 10+ yrs.
I'm really really liking the content you're putting out, Matt! However I'm a PC user, a Premiere/Media Composer editor, and I LOVE buttons and clicking (silence makes my ADHD crazy, clicking grounds me in a way). Either way, keep it up! Happily binging your channel :)
Thanks so much, Alex! Well, when you decide to ditch Windows and Premiere, this channel will REALLY be for you. Until then, I greatly appreciate you tuning in to see what things are like (when I do FCPX tutorials) on the other side.
Although, if you like clicking, get the M. Mouse. It clicks really loudly and ergonomically. It’s really satifying
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Thank you so much for the breakdown down & your perspective on the really important parameters & helping me make the best decision for me, my friend. Track pad all the way! 👍 Peace 🙏, Peace 🙏, Peace 🙏
You're welcome, Sami! Can't wait for you to get your trackpad!
@@matthewTobrien Thank you sir, much gratitude! 🙏😑🙏
While dragging e.g. clips from one monitor to another with the Trackpad I often run into the edge of the Trackpad's surface. Then I need to start dragging again. How do you get around that? I see you are using thee monitors.
Also: at least on my Mac, double tapping the Mouse will zoom out and show the whole timeline.
Are you using three-finger drag or traditional trackpad click + hold with your thumb and drag with your index finger? Either way, you can lift your dragging finger(s) repeatedly to drag long distances. You don’t have to keep your fingertip(s) in constant contact with the surface of the trackpad. It’s tricky to get used to but once you do you’ll love the trackpad even more.
With the Magic Mouse, you have to have Smart Zoom enabled in System Preferences to be able to zoom out of your timeline in FCP with a one-finger double-tap. Something I thought I did an exhaustive search to determine before I made my video…only to find out I was wrong.
I’m going to be making a follow-up/companion video to this one in the coming months and will address it there.
Thanks for being polite and kind in questioning my claims in this video. 👍🏻🤘🏻
@@matthewTobrien Damn this is a game changer! I didn't realise that you can simply keep your thumb on the trackpad and then lift the index finger to readjust and drag for longer. Thank you so much! :D This was the only reason why I even tried the Magic Mouse. But with this out of the way the Trackpad is DEFINITELY superior with all the gestures etc.. I also have to look into the three-finger drag sometime...
Thanks for the reply, that helped me out a lot! Looking forward to the follow-up video :)
@@TruSam My pleasure! Glad you’re enjoying it. If you commit to three-finger drag you’ll love the trackpad even more. Trust me. 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Thanks, man! Cheers from Brazil and a rookie youtuber and video editor! As I need to be both mobile and fast because of my other ocupations (Im also a law teatcher and a high position civil service), Ive decided to go with an ipad pro and the magic trackpad which I think will serve me perfectly to edit on the go as well as for my studies and pdf and/or presentations editing. Thanks again! Awesome content!
Sounds like a great solution, Vitor! Good luck with your channel! Would love to snag an iPad Pro myself one of these days.....
Great video !! I recently got a track pad and I agree that it is preferable to the Magic Mouse. One point that really turned me off the MM was the woefully slow tracking speed, even set to max. I also use the Logitech MX Master mouse and love it. Thanks for your efforts. 😏
have you tried disabling acceleration? because i was having this problem and disabled it and cant bare the speed of the 3rd slowest mouse speed
@@filipe.faisca No mate, just gave it to my wife lol. 😏
Why would you use the Magic Trackpad vs the built in one in the laptop? Just wondering because my hand does hurt after a few hours and wondering if this will still happen
The standalone Magic Trackpad 2 - as it pertains to this video - is intended to be used with a desktop configuration. So a Mac Pro or an iMac or a notebook connected to an external display. Some notebook users use a stand to elevate their notebook and then pair it with a Magic Keyboard and Mouse/Trackpad. I wouldn't use the notebook by itself and then add a Magic Trackpad 2 necessarily.
But you're right, after extended use the base of my hand/top of my wrists get sore from resting on the top case that surrounds the trackpad on a notebook.
@@matthewTobrien that makes sense! I’m trying to find a option that helps as a stand alone with the laptop
BRO! I've been searching for this video for awhile! Thank you for sharing!
Nice! Then I'm glad my hunch to make it was right. Thanks for watching!
@@matthewTobrien Replacing MX Master 2S for magic Trackpad really soon. FCP for life!
Great to hear! Let me know how it goes!
Love the Apple trackpad…using it for last few years and it’s such a better workflow for me. Didn’t know about few of the tips you mentioned. Thank you so much
You’re welcome! Enjoy those new gestures. 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Great video!!! Thank you 👍
Thanks for checking it out, Leonardo!
I have to get a lot of Photo Editing done. I'm tired to clicking on the mouse. My hand gets cramped pretty good. After several years of Editing, if I use the mouse too much, I start losing feeling in some fingertips. I reckon I'll have to spend the extra money on the trackpad, though I wish I could use the Apple Pencil with it.
Magic Trackpad is definitely pricey, but I do love it. I hope it helps with photo editing if you're using a lot of sliders, etc. like Lightroom has. I know folks using Photoshop and doing a lot of retouching don't get much relief with the Trackpad - the power users tend to use Wacom tablets from what I've heard. Keep me posted on your progress!
@@matthewTobrien I'm a PC Lifer gradually switching to Apple after my PC laptop crashed. I bought the 12.9" iPad Pro (M1) thinking it would be the perfect laptop replacement. While I love using the Apple Pencil opposed to my Wacom tablet, the iPad Pro does not Support the full version of Adobe Creative Suite. It's surprisingly limited. Which meant I had to purchase another budget-friendly PC laptop to access the full version. However, the iPad and PC laptop don't sync very well. Saturday, I finally had the funds to purchase the Mac Mini (M2), then I decided to buy the Magic Trackpad (black) yesterday after watching your Review. It works great, but I'm too agitated by the $149 price tag to fully appreciate it. Now, everything in my workflow is Apple except for my mouse, which I still use alongside the Trackpad. ..now it just looks weird, so eventually I'll get the Magic Mouse 2 (black) whenever my budget recovers from what I just got myself into. But why is the Charge port on the bottom? For the Mac Mini, is there no Facial Recognition? I've gotten used to not having the type a password to unlock the screen, etc.
Yes, the Magic Trackpad 2 is not cheap, especially the black version. I have avoided buying a second one for my livestreaming setup because. of the price tag. I've also avoided buying the TouchID Magic Keyboard even though it's so much faster to use TouchID on your keyboard vs. entering your passwords or even clicking to auto-fill your saved passwords. For now I'll stick with the Magic Mouse 2.
Which, yes, annoyingly charges on the bottom. I just make it a habit that when I know it's been a while since I last charged it to click on the Bluetooth icon in the Menu Bar to see its charge percentage. If it's under 20% I plug it in when I'm done for the day so I'm not inconvenienced when it dies, and I need to use it. If that ever does happen, Apple was smart enough to make the Lightning connection rapid-charge devices so even just 5 minutes of charging can get you enough battery - most likely - to last the rest of the day.
And, yes, there is not FaceID for the iPad mini. I use FaceID with my iPad Pro and my iPhone 13 Pro Max so I too have stared at my iPad mini wondering why it isn't unlocking... It's hilarious how these features become a part of our muscle memory and stop us in our tracks when the device doesn't have the feature we're used to.
Also, for more on the Magic Trackpad 2 check out this other video I made about Three Finger Drag: ruclips.net/video/VVTglFlx1y4/видео.html
@@matthewTobrien I purchased the Magic Mouse 2 (black) yesterday. It's not shaped like a typical mouse, which is good because of my hand cramp. But its "click" is very heavy. You really have to apply more pressure than usually to push it down. Combined with the smooth glass, it slips from my hand quite often when I'm clicking. Still figuring out how to hold it. btw, I purchased it for the Mac mini (aka Apple's desktop model). It's on sale at Best Buy for $499 w/ no Sales Tax applied through August 6th.
I am planning to buy a Magic TrackPad 2, since I bought an iMac 4K for video editing, I use my magic Mouse 2 for both FCPX and Premiere Pro. So could you please let me know is Trackpad useful with Premiere Pro as well as FCPX? Thanks in advance.
Premiere Pro is a dirty, dirty, DIRTY word around here! Haha 🤣 Not really. Okay, yeah maybe a little bit. I honestly have no idea how well the Magic Trackpad 2 works with Premiere Pro. I had PP installed for about a year because I had a few clients that wanted edits done in Premiere (I had an editor I hired to handle those because I didn't want to learn the software) but after it proved to costly for the amount of work we were getting, I decided to cancel my subscription and haven't used it since. I suspect the trackpad works fine with PP, but I have a feeling there aren't many gestures for it. But I could be wrong...
@@matthewTobrien Thanks for your quick reply. Actually! I am a freelance video editor, so some of my clients require the project files of Premiere Pro and some require FCPX library bundle, so I need to use both. Just wondering that Timeline zooming with pinch and scrolling works a same like FCPX or not.
@@matthewTobrien Finally! Got the Magic TrackPad 2 today. It's Awesome. Works fine with both FCPX and Premiere Pro. I hope, will get more speed in my workflow.
I hope you do too! Keep me posted!
Good review. I don't understand the point about resting your wrist or heal of your palm while using a mouse, but not with the pad. Don't you rest your hand at all with the trackpad? That does not seem possible to me. I need to know I will actually use the pad if I buy one, so I need to understand the fundamental ergonomics. Thank you.
When I use the Magic Trackpad I don't put the full weight of my hand on my wrist and the heel of my palm because I need to have my hand in a different position than the mouse to do all the gestures/movements. It's a subtle difference but it keeps me from breaking from my work to give my wrist/heel a break. I think this is one of the flaws of the Magic Mouse - it's so low profile that you have to rest your hand/wrist on a surface much more than say a Logitech MX Master mouse that his much more bulbous and meant to contour to your hand when it's in a much more natural position for use.
I've thought about this quite a bit! 🤣
@@matthewTobrien That helps. I can envision it better now. I went ahead and bought a trackpad the day I watched your video. Amazon delivered in one day. I'm started using it on a video project. I can see how I will eventually prefer it over a mouse. Once I develop the muscle memory needed to use its full potential.
Is there any difference between the trackpad 2 to the trackpad on the MacBook Pro 2021 16”?
Not as far as gestures go. They work exactly the same in macOS and Final Cut Pro. 👍🏻
@@matthewTobrien so they are effectively the same thing? The Magic Trackpad is a way of adding the facility you get from a MacBook Pro to n iMac desktop
Precisely. And it’s quiet!
you nailed it. good stuff
That's the hope! Thanks so much for watching.
Yep. The trackpad is superior. Hands down. But the magic mouse is really good for a mouse. However, among some of the worst things existing on planet earth... dragging a little device around your desk, and clicking sounds. I do NOT know how people put up with that.
Oh! I didn't realize a two finger tap would zoom me out! Thanks! Will try later, along with the 3 finger moving trick. I think I have the pointer setting under accessibility set to some other custom function though.
Yeah, the clicking. Can’t stand it. 😖 Glad you learned a couple of new gestures for the Magic Trackpad. Let me know how they work out for you! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@@matthewTobrien Working nicely, thanks!
Nice haircut. Also, use both!
It was about time! I do keep the mouse in that sad dark drawer ... but I never need it. 🤷🏻♂️😓
You did it! Thank you Matthew.
Woohoo! 🙌🏻🤷🏻♂️