Grounding and earthing are similar but not the same. Both are great. Direct skin contact with the earth will always be more healing than grounding alone. The electrical facet of earthing is present in both earthing and in grounding, but earthing also has other benefits other than just electrical diffusion. Think of Squares and Rectangles. Every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square. The category of rectangle includes more. Earthing is much more than just grounding, but grounding is one element present in earthing.
Interesting. I never thought about this. I guess using things like this is a good top up to grounding,. But getting out on the earth with skin to soil is the best.
Very thorough review, really enjoyed it guys. Couple of questions. Around 13:15 you can see the shoes show odd creasing at the very front (not only in the mesh but also in the rubber area). Would that be a construction concern? And how does the toe box width compare to Vivo styles like Primus?
No issues for me with the creasing. Just shows the pliability and flexibility of the shoe. As for the toebox, it’s plenty wider than the Primus. Vivo is actually one of the narrower toeboxes we’ve experienced compared to other shoes
I feel every pebble on the trails I walk and it hurts to walk for a while on pavement with my current barefoot shoes. Will the Bahe Revive prevent that?
@@BroccoliRocks in our opinion the revive has a good balance of cushion with minimalism. Theres a good amount of groundfeel and a good amount of comfort
Thank you Chris and Eric for the review! I’m having a difficult time finding a pair of waterproof or highly water resistant shoes with really wide toe box. I just want to use them as rainy day walking shoes. I have tried Altra lone Peak, Xero, Freet Howgill, Vivo, and they are all too narrow. What’s the widest waterproof shoes you have ever seen? I have searched for a year and still haven’t found anything 😢
Why do you say that the stack height with the insole included is 10mm when on their website they say that the stack height is 14mm (10mm sole + 4mm insole) ?
Good question! We talked a lot with the company as the shoe was coming out and somehow that's the number we got out of those discussions, but you're totally right, on the website now it says 14mm total stack height.
For someone with pretty wide feet, from a fit and durability perspective, how would you compare these with Altra, especially something like the Torin 6 Wide?
@@sonsofsever interesting, I expected it to be the opposite based on the shape but it's very hard to tell just by eyeballing. this definitely helps, thanks.
Hey quick random question to yall i had after watching this very informative video. Keep up the great work with these reviews! Do yall size up to have 2.5mm of space between the longest toe and the front of the shoe or do you do 1.5mm? I have 26.5cm length feet but i am between ordering the size 11 or 10. The size guide says that the 11 has a length of 29cm while the 10 is 28.3cm. I am more inclined to try the 11 since my feet are wider than the 10.5 width of the 10 and even the 10.7cm width of the 11. The 11 is a bit wider so do you recommend i size up to 11?
@@hood4thought699 I’d say go with the 11 for sure. I am usually a 10.5 and I wish I’d gone with an 11. It should give you a little more width and plenty of length without giving you too much
Hey there, after using them 2x for runs my pinky toe splay is limited but u hope they can break and become just slightly wider. Did you find that your pair broken in a bit and got a bit wider?
I think you just have to gradually build up the strength for it. You definitely can't just go buy your first pair of minimal shoes and take them on a long run on hard surfaces, you'll likely get injured. You gotta start slow with low mileage and build up just like strengthening anything else on your body.
Can anyone speak to using these shoes as a walking shoe? In general I do want a grounding shoe but I'm also looking for a shoe to wear daily on an upcoming Europe trip where I'm expecting to be walking a LOT every day. Thank you!
@@annagarnica9447 good for running, walking, casual wear. I think they’d do a good job for you on a long walking trip for sure. Just enough cushion but not too much like an Altra
ESD (Electro-Static-Dissipative) shoes are grounding. They are needed so that you do not spark sensitive electronics or blow something up in an explosive device factory. These places have a ground tester that you step on and confirm your shoes are grounded - socks or no socks are OK. The difference between ESD shoes and Earthing shoes is the electrical resistance. ESD shoes have a One Mega-Ohm resistance specification. That is alot of resistance (too much to get much benefit from) but is perfectly good for discharging static electricity. Grounding products for the home use 1/10th of that --> an in-line 100k-ohm resister for safety.
Grounding is when electricity travels from the person to the earth. Our excess electrical turbulence grounds out to the earth when we are in direct skin contact with earth. This is healing because that turbulence that builds up within us causes chaos with our blood and nervous systems. Connecting our skin to the earth via electrically conductive materials achieves similar effects, though in order to achieve this effect with these shoes one should not wear socks to be in direct skin contact with the conductive thread, or should wear socks with conductive thread in order to connect with the conductive thread in the shoe and thus to the earth. These conductive materials are simply used as a grounding wire like we have in our houses. That grounding wire connects to the earth to diffuse electrical turbulence. Connect to that wire, and you connect to the earth.
Grounding is a real thing. Being actually barefoot and touching the ground straight up grounds you and there are so many health benefits to being grounded. Lowering inflammation is a big one. Modern shoes block what naturally should be occurring.
Depends on how much you value a good minimalist running shoe. If you value that highly and want the benefits of grounding while you're wearing a shoe, this works
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Grounding and earthing are similar but not the same. Both are great. Direct skin contact with the earth will always be more healing than grounding alone. The electrical facet of earthing is present in both earthing and in grounding, but earthing also has other benefits other than just electrical diffusion.
Think of Squares and Rectangles. Every square is a rectangle, but not every rectangle is a square. The category of rectangle includes more.
Earthing is much more than just grounding, but grounding is one element present in earthing.
Interesting. I never thought about this. I guess using things like this is a good top up to grounding,. But getting out on the earth with skin to soil is the best.
@@Richard_FitPku Yes both are great. Though connecting with the frequency and tactile response of this creation is unparalleled.
Ooooohh ok so this is just complete insane batshit crazy people bullshit! Got it!
Enjoy then!
Thanks for this review, guys, much appreciated. God bless!
Very thorough review, really enjoyed it guys. Couple of questions. Around 13:15 you can see the shoes show odd creasing at the very front (not only in the mesh but also in the rubber area). Would that be a construction concern?
And how does the toe box width compare to Vivo styles like Primus?
No issues for me with the creasing. Just shows the pliability and flexibility of the shoe. As for the toebox, it’s plenty wider than the Primus. Vivo is actually one of the narrower toeboxes we’ve experienced compared to other shoes
Is there any update in the shoes durableity? Spacificly the soles?
Chris' sole started losing some lugs cause he was wearing them at his delivery job, I've just used mine to run and they've been fine
Thank you for replying. Do you know how long he got out of them before this happened, using his for daily wear?
@@keithcarter8468 60 miles in or so, using them for running and at work is when he noticed them starting to wear
I feel every pebble on the trails I walk and it hurts to walk for a while on pavement with my current barefoot shoes.
Will the Bahe Revive prevent that?
@@BroccoliRocks in our opinion the revive has a good balance of cushion with minimalism. Theres a good amount of groundfeel and a good amount of comfort
Thanks Guys
If you thought the US price was expensive, brace yourself, they're 260.00 Canadian(plus tax/import duties,and shipping), ouch!
Thank you Chris and Eric for the review! I’m having a difficult time finding a pair of waterproof or highly water resistant shoes with really wide toe box. I just want to use them as rainy day walking shoes. I have tried Altra lone Peak, Xero, Freet Howgill, Vivo, and they are all too narrow. What’s the widest waterproof shoes you have ever seen? I have searched for a year and still haven’t found anything 😢
Look into Be Lenka! Their toe boxes are awesome and they have a lot of water resistant shoes.
Softstar Primal
Why do you say that the stack height with the insole included is 10mm when on their website they say that the stack height is 14mm (10mm sole + 4mm insole) ?
Good question! We talked a lot with the company as the shoe was coming out and somehow that's the number we got out of those discussions, but you're totally right, on the website now it says 14mm total stack height.
@@sonsofsever Well, I just ordered the shoe, I'll come back to tell you if it feels like a 10 or 14mm stack height (if I remember to, hehe)
For someone with pretty wide feet, from a fit and durability perspective, how would you compare these with Altra, especially something like the Torin 6 Wide?
So the most experience I have with Altra is with the Escalante Racer and the LP 7. Both feel a little wider than this.
@@sonsofsever interesting, I expected it to be the opposite based on the shape but it's very hard to tell just by eyeballing. this definitely helps, thanks.
@@Laotzu.Goldbug important to note, this is by no means a bad toebox. It’s better than a lot of other brands for sure.
Hey quick random question to yall i had after watching this very informative video. Keep up the great work with these reviews! Do yall size up to have 2.5mm of space between the longest toe and the front of the shoe or do you do 1.5mm? I have 26.5cm length feet but i am between ordering the size 11 or 10. The size guide says that the 11 has a length of 29cm while the 10 is 28.3cm. I am more inclined to try the 11 since my feet are wider than the 10.5 width of the 10 and even the 10.7cm width of the 11. The 11 is a bit wider so do you recommend i size up to 11?
@@hood4thought699 I’d say go with the 11 for sure. I am usually a 10.5 and I wish I’d gone with an 11. It should give you a little more width and plenty of length without giving you too much
@@sonsofsever you da' man, G !
Got them today, they are awesome! Thank you so much for creating this helpful video review . Keep on the great work guys 🙏🏽🦶🏽
Hey there, after using them 2x for runs my pinky toe splay is limited but u hope they can break and become just slightly wider. Did you find that your pair broken in a bit and got a bit wider?
@@hood4thought699 definitely. That was a comment we’ve made to the company though. That they could go just a touch wider on the toebox
Do you think that running in barefoot shoes on concrete/asphalt is a bad idea? Cause of the repetetive movement?
I think you just have to gradually build up the strength for it. You definitely can't just go buy your first pair of minimal shoes and take them on a long run on hard surfaces, you'll likely get injured. You gotta start slow with low mileage and build up just like strengthening anything else on your body.
Can anyone speak to using these shoes as a walking shoe? In general I do want a grounding shoe but I'm also looking for a shoe to wear daily on an upcoming Europe trip where I'm expecting to be walking a LOT every day. Thank you!
@@annagarnica9447 good for running, walking, casual wear. I think they’d do a good job for you on a long walking trip for sure. Just enough cushion but not too much like an Altra
@@sonsofsever thank you!!
Has anyone tried them without socks,. For the grounding element? We're they comfy?
@@Richard_FitPku grounding works through socks just fine. But they are pretty comfy without, in my opinion
Really? We can have socks on and still get the grounding element, even if they're cotton socks? @@sonsofsever
@@Richard_FitPku as far as I have been told
ESD (Electro-Static-Dissipative) shoes are grounding. They are needed so that you do not spark sensitive electronics or blow something up in an explosive device factory. These places have a ground tester that you step on and confirm your shoes are grounded - socks or no socks are OK.
The difference between ESD shoes and Earthing shoes is the electrical resistance. ESD shoes have a One Mega-Ohm resistance specification. That is alot of resistance (too much to get much benefit from) but is perfectly good for discharging static electricity. Grounding products for the home use 1/10th of that --> an in-line 100k-ohm resister for safety.
Try birchbury they just made chukka boots
Grounding is when electricity travels from the person to the earth. Our excess electrical turbulence grounds out to the earth when we are in direct skin contact with earth. This is healing because that turbulence that builds up within us causes chaos with our blood and nervous systems.
Connecting our skin to the earth via electrically conductive materials achieves similar effects, though in order to achieve this effect with these shoes one should not wear socks to be in direct skin contact with the conductive thread, or should wear socks with conductive thread in order to connect with the conductive thread in the shoe and thus to the earth.
These conductive materials are simply used as a grounding wire like we have in our houses. That grounding wire connects to the earth to diffuse electrical turbulence. Connect to that wire, and you connect to the earth.
Feet sweat quickly in shoes and socks become very conductive. Socks or no socks... you are grounded just the same.
Grounding is a real thing. Being actually barefoot and touching the ground straight up grounds you and there are so many health benefits to being grounded. Lowering inflammation is a big one. Modern shoes block what naturally should be occurring.
Grounding is real, and u can do it just by being barefoot…the shoe is crazy expensive for what it actually is, doesn’t worth it.
Depends on how much you value a good minimalist running shoe. If you value that highly and want the benefits of grounding while you're wearing a shoe, this works
Much of the time you can't go barefoot. Who runs trails barefoot? That is dangerous. A grounding shoe is a good idea when barefoot is not an option.