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If you are in between sizes, would you recommend going up or down in sizing? Do they run on the larger or smaller size if you were forced to pick?

No need to diss so hard on Vivo. For me, even after a while in barefoot shoes, my feet are still narrow, low volume, and slope shaped, and Vivo are the only minimalist shoe company making any kind of legit hiking boot for someone with feet like mine. I really hate it when people with ultra-wide feet make it seem like an ultra-wide shoe is the only thing that counts as minimalist/barefoot or that a cheaper shoe is obviously the better option. Do I wish Vivos were cheaper or that I had more options? Sure. But y'all need to remember everyone has different shaped feet, even minimalist shoe wearers. At least this review helped me figure out the ATs aren't going to work for me - they'll be way too wide!

My lems boulder summit had the soles start peeling after 1 season and now has a hole in the side. Testing out Xero alpine now. My original lems boulder boot nylon lasted 2 years and the soles only peeled because I was installing rubber mat flooring at the gym and was dragging them. Edit: lems and xero both make size 15 so they are my best choices for 6’4 250lbs male

Whats the sizing like on these? They run big or small?? Thanks

Do you guys run with Bearfoot shoes? Do you think your feet adapt to to high impact running on cement?

Thanks for this insanely comprehensive review! Stellar work! Regarding the blister issue, were you guys wearing the boots with or without socks? Did you address the issue to Jim Green?

Will you compare them with Lems Chukka Grip, if so then when can we expect a video?

do these have better or worse flick than regular vans/nikes/etc. why review a skate shoe without at least some testing?

I have been wearing the outlanders for maybe 8-9 months and have never gotten more compliments on a shoe. Also have gone on decent trail runs in them and hikes and they do great. They do run small as all lems seem to. Half size up for all lems unless they have a narrow toebox like the mesa then its a full size up. My only real gripe with lems is their laces. Always too short. Had to outright replace my boulder summit laces. They were unusably short.

Masterfully presented man! Professional work 👏👏

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Is this still yalls opinion on this boot? I'm looking at buying a pair of boots for winter and this is one I'm thinking about for being a bit wider then Lems.

I was so excited when i received the rediscover...i ordered the same size as usual for me and it was waay too big. But more important, it really really hurt when walking. Every time i flex the toes the stiffness of the material hurt my skin, i had to send them back, sadly. Hope they will fix this stiffness problem

Two very nice offerings, I'd go with the rediscover based on toe box, but I like them both. Thanks for the comparative analysis, a perfect pairing.

As I only have used the outlander as a workboot, and by the specs still will, I still want to give the bahe a try. That extra toe room is calling. Thanks for the review we all needed.

I recently purchased a pair of BeLenka Ranger 2.0. They are great (as advertised), BUT try as I did - choosing the most fitting size, they turned out to be at least half a size too small / short, AND not really suited for true winter conditions in the mountain (deep snow) terrain, and below zero (Celsius) temperatures. They have hardly any insulation and feel cold, even in the city) - I live in the relatively warmer, South West part of Canada. The reviews I watched, led me to believe that they would stand up well under such conditions ... or was it me - hoping - because they sounded so great overall ...? Will attempt to sell them (as slightly used , at a loss, of course. Do you (anyone) have a solid (based on personal experience) minimal winter boots recommendation ...? I'm now (carefully) considering Rediscover boots (by Bahe): quite (most?) expensive, which I don't question, IF the promoted high quality and performance is there. However, I want to make sure that I get what will be completely suitable, in terms of use: winter and early springtime mountain hiking (and accommodate crampons and snowshoes).

I was considering getting a pair, but my feet are fairly wide in the toe box area. This review has discouraged me from trying them. Thanks for the info.

I'm not sure that the tow cap is a true toe cap. I think it's just a stylistic choice. Watching Jim Green's video on the making of the African Ranger, you can see that it isn't layered on top of another piece of leather. Though that WAS the video showcasing the original African Ranger instead of the barefoot version.

Do you think that belenka atlas would be good for snowing weather?

Very nice! What's the price point

Wish the Jim Green was as tall as the Bruin.

i know i'm late, but as an autistic person this review was so in-depth and covered everything i wanted/needed to know. Im saving up for a pair of these, and while i don't look forward to the break-in, im much more prepared thanks to you guys! you earned a new sub :)

thanks for the reviews on these sandals. where are you guys running in these shots? that's beautiful countryside

Hello, thanks for your your channel and your great videos. I m thinking about finding barefoot shoes to play paddle tennis with a bit of cushioning. Do you think the primal zen or another one could do the job. I m used to O drop shoes, hiking in altra but not able to wear narrow toe box shoes for day life or sports.🙏

Cows are naturally herbivores. How much more 'vegan' can they be?

I'm starting my 3rd month with my Hikes. I can already tell a difference in lack of knee and back pain. My wife says she's noticed a change in how I walk, too.

The JG toe def looks more pointy than Lems.

Anyone wear these boots with an over supination foot problem and how did they feel for long walks?

been using vibrams since 2009 and the their quality/durability has decreased a lot- the fabric around the toes comes apart after moderate use and the soles wear down way sooner than expected 🫤

How does Lems sizing compare to Altra?....I'm size 9 in Altra and it fits great, just wondering if I should size same, up, or down with the Lems summit....thanks for the great videos.

Love the fact that they made a shoe that looks like a new balance and then gave it a name that looks like a backwards N.

planned obselence on training shoe soles would be an interesting video. these look like some nice shoes if they are wide enough

Hi I checked their size chart, their EU24 is 15.2cm long/7.1cm wide. my son's feet now is 14cm long/ 5.9cm wide. I know for length you plus 12mm is ok, what about the width, is feelgrounds shoes too wide for my son's regular feet? I know they suitable for wide feet kids. Does that mean I need to go for another brand?

African trooper Vs barefoot bruin

Mine were shot at about 5 miles the tread on the forefoot was nonexistant

Still can't figure out why Converse doesn't make a wide toe box Chuck Taylor All Star shoe.

So I know running is quite personal in terms of what to wear for shoes, based on so many things obviously, (sidenote, this video just really make me want to run ahaha, so thanks? Really cool video to have for a bit of a review! You all did great!) but as someone who has walked in barefoot shoes for a little over a decade, but has never done any running, is there a range of thickness you might recommend as a starting point? I took a look at the stack height for the Runners and I gotta say, it has me worried for my ankles, but I know I need more padding than any of my current barefoot shoes! For reference, during general exercise, I wear my xero 360s, but those would absolutely not be enough padding for running at all. Thickest walking shoe I own is actually probably the Splay 101s.

I wish there was an option that wasn't plastic. That doesn't mean it has to be leather, just not plastic.

**insert OMG it's happening Office gif** loving the barefoot revolution! FREE THE TOES!!!

hello, would you say that the boulder summit waterproof boot would be good for a job? I work at in n out and have been wanting to switch to a zero drop wide toe box work boot because there are days when I am bending over a grill for six hours straight and my back is hurting by the end of the day. the requirements are that they have to be non-slip. are these non slip? also do you think these could hold up to the job, because my work boots go through a lot; hot melting cheese drips on them, spread, i step on a lot of food, they are constantly getting wet if i work a closing shift and have to wash the dishes by hand. please let me know what you think or what would you think would be a good barefoot work shoe out of your reviews

Have used Altra Escalante for years, for running and work as hairdresser, helped me treat/cure Morton's Neuroma. They're my main shoe. Don't want to be without them. But absolutely agree with your suggestions for an alternate model Escalante.

How is the thermal insulation of the patrol lite? Is it good enough for below or around freezing temperatures? Or would you recommend the patrol winter for those situations? I am hesitating because you mentioned the patrol winter are problematic when you want to keep them on inside at home or in shops.

Love the nostalgic looks as well as the black and gum colorway.

They seal the seams on the Winter, so I don't get why they don't do it for the Lite. I don't think it even needs a membrane. The material is already water repellent, so if they just seal the seams it should be mostly waterproof. As for the fake leather, it kinda ruins all the Patrols. Imagine if they made them in Nubuck. They'd literally be barefoot Timberlands. I get that it's a vegan company, but they could still use recycled leather that would go to waste otherwise. Freet does it, they can too. The boots are already as expensive as real leather, so it would only be fair that we get non plastic versions too. I'm sure some hardcore Vegans would be offended even by recycled leather, but that's nothing compared to the new audience they will attract. Most people don't wanna pay top dollar for plastic. Also I agree they could make a version with bigger lugs, to get more of that Timberland look. The sole can remain flexible even with bigger lugs, as we've seen from Vivo ESC models. They seem to be paying attention to your feedback, so fingers crossed. Btw I wish you had tested the waterproofing a bit more and showed us, so we could get an idea of what they can and can't do.

I was actually wearing my grey patrol lites last night. My only complaint is that I find myself not wearing them as often because it's hard to get in and out of them because of the laces/eyelids holes. I've heard from another youtuber that the patrol winter is easier because all the eyelid holes have metal caps, whereas the lites they took almost all of them out. I actually don't notice mine making that squeaky sound like your's. Maybe as a new pair they did?

Thanks for the review. I am looking to transition from Altra to Lems. Looks like Primal Zen has the highest stack height? That’s what I need for an easy transition. I have Morton’s neuroma / foot pain. I am hoping the Lems will be a good shoe. Altra - while I need the cushioning for sure - seems to be a little bit too much for me. I feel a little wobbly.

I think you two would love the Invo8 bare xf for running and lifting. Low stack height but the boomerang footbed gives you some squish

Looks like that outsole pattern was "inspired" by the Jim Green Rose Anvil outsole.

I love you guys ❤️🙏🏽

This is crazzzyyyyy as a person who loves the widest toebox possible I don’t know any person that need this but enjoy it ❤ that guy׳s foot was amazing. 🦶 Edit: I’m convinced 😅 I always go up a size in barefoot shoes (ehm ehm Vivo) because they are not wide enough, now I can a have a boot that is actually my length and still I can fully splay my toes 🦶