I'm an elderly woman and I've been wearing barefoot (Xero and Whitin, mostly Xero) for about 2 years, exclusively. I actually like the feel of the Whitin - almost like not wearing shoes at all. The Xeros, of course, offer a bit more support. The best thing about these shoes for me is the feeling of balance and security. The thin sole actually prevents ankle injuries if you step off the edge of a sidewalk because your foot can compensate, which it cannot do with a thick and stiff sole. They take a bit of getting used to, but completely worth it. I wore New Balance shoes in a wide width before barefoot style and won't go back to heavy, thick, running or walking shoes ever again. I also have a problem with most athletic shoes because of the heel protruding in the back. I would "catch" the heel on steps when going down stairs.
I'm not elderly yet, but I've found myself tripping and falling a lot when I wear shoes with thick or squishy soles. I'm trying to transition now to barefoot shoes since it feels more stable.
Same here, I have hypermobile ankles and have been tripping since I can remember. Whitin were my first barefoot shoes, it was a foot-opening experience ;-) I do wear thin insoles though in some shoes.
@@annvoy7698 Yes, those Whitin shoes have very thin soles. You can feel every little stone and bump through them. I got used to it though, and don't use insoles.
For some exposition: I'm a tall overweight middle aged woman, who lives in s big city, walks 1/2 mile to work and stands on hard surface all day. I have been wearing mens wide shoes for a while because womens wide shoes never felt wide enough. I got my first pair of minimalist shoes a few weeks ago (xero prio's). At first they felt weird, the outside of my shins felt strained and stepping on my first rock almost made me fall down. After wearing them for just a few weeks my shins feel better and ive gotten used to stepping on rocks and the cracks in the city streets. I love being able to wiggle my toes in the shoes. I definitely want to buy another pair.
I have been playing and walking barefoot wherever I lived since I was a child, also on the beach and while climbing rocks and small cliffs at the beach. I always felt shoes to be a constrictive norm and thus I welcome this new trend so that i can virtually walk barefoot everywhere.
I don’t like my feet in shoes since I was a child I’m a island born West Indian. I just came back the the USA and find wearing shoes hurt my feet. I just transition to xerox shoes and lems cleaning out my closet. 😂 the only sneaker I really liked were the Nike 5.0 barefoot running shoes I didn’t realize they were barefoot shoes until just the other day. I had bought so many pairs and had a brand new pair in the closet and started wearing them in the gym and read the inside of the shoe barefoot running smh 🤦🏾♂️
60 now and still barefoot most of the time. I live in a large city in the upper Midwest. I get a lot of flak from people. Whatever. Every spring I have to build up my calluses for concrete, rocks, etc.
Thank you for this analysis, especially the bit at end regarding foot strength and health. I love my barefoot shoes, but I've seen too many people talk about barefoot shoes like they're some kind of miracle cure for all foot-related problems.
I've had the same pair of whitins for like 2 and a half years, I use them for everything hiking, running, lifting, casual wear. The sole is now almost worn through, but I love them. It's the older canvas ones. I haven't tried the newer ones yet.
I have Whitins and Xeros. I love them both! They are so comfortable. I wear my Xeros everyday. The Whitins I have are a cheetah print pattern I bought for fun fashion occasions so I don't wear them as often, but I do like them.
I have been running and hiking in Xero shoes for 8 years now, and I have been barefoot for 10 years in total. I started with Altras and Vivo and tried Lems. I use speed laces on all of them, and I have stretch laces on my old Altras because they are for bike riding. I'm 64 and was born with severe club feet back in 1960. Numerous operations and too many years of wearing those heavy steel and leather braces (Think Forest Gump but below the knees). Zero-drop barefoot shoes are the best thing that ever happened to my feet after all of the corrective surgeries. I just walked/jogged in my Xero HFS shoes yesterday. I jog uphill and walk back down.
Great video thanks for it. After a debilitating injury I went barefoot style 12 months ago; I've been pain free 7 months. I now wear the Whitins everyday. There is a Whiten "wide" shoe model as well, I wear it everyday working on concrete in a shop with North Sole inserts, and wear the normal Whiten style as a casual shoe off work. I wear a finger style vibrum for WO and cardio. I wear toe spacers around the house barefoot. Big fan of the Whitens but I do wish the box was little wider too. Think I may need to try xero as I think about moving into running. Thanks for video again, all the best.
Just a quick update: the Whitins have a version called "Wide Knit" which have a wider toe box. I accidentally bought those and I am quite happy for this mistake, as they are really great and super comfortable even with the toe spacers on my feet. The "Wide Knit" variations look totally similar to those you bought, come in 6 colors and of course a wider toe box.
@@LuisC7 Yep, probably there are different ways how the Whitin products are labeled on amazon. Here in Germany, you could find one category labelled "Unisex canvas minimalist barefoot" and another as "Unisex Wide Knit barefoot" - the latter one is the one I bought. By looking at the product photos, it is indeed wider than the other type.
@@oumarh.gassama8063 oh ok awesome. So you like your withins? Are they good? Found any issues? I bought mine from amazon usa so they take a bit to arrive. Didn't know they were found ona amazon DE. Probably for cheaper too!
@@LuisC7 Well, wearing my pairs (all black) since a month or so. They have a removable le insole which is not too thick and are actually comfortable, but I instantly removed those to have a true barefoot feeling. So far, all good. They are really comfortable even without the insoles, and the toe box is wide and comfortable too (I was wearing it even with toe spacers on, although I have fairly narrow feet). The laces are good an not slippery - if you tie them they stay as they should all day.
You gotta try the Whitin trail runners. Not for running but for the gym, they fix almost all the problems you had with them. Much more supportive and study and the pull laces make them snug, but still the barefoot feel. And they’re the same price. Cons for me is just the sole kind of makes it look like a toe shoe even though it isn’t on the inside
This is huge, their trail runners are another level and they have some more casual trailers, and some with straps that really get support around the ankle area and provide that anti-slip functionality.
I have two pairs that I wear daily. They've been around for at least a year and I love them for just about everything, except long hikes. My feet aren't ready for crazy terrain and anything beyond a mile or so starts to hurt. But, for walking around, the gym, they're solid shoes. I have worn them for 15+ hours at work on hard concrete and they felt better than my regular shoes. And for $40, it's remarkable how well they have held up.
Congratulations on becoming a DPT and all your work in the community. Without some great PTs, I wouldn't have been able to finish my 20+ year Army career. Great review; I keep getting disappointed with dropping quality control and poor products from companies (Altra, talking to you) asking almost $200 for minimum products... good to hear from a professional this topic before a purchase.
If you are still having problems with laces coming undone, then look up the Berluti knot. Is a double knot originally developed for dress shoes but works on anything. It takes a little getting used to, but I've never had one come undone while walking, hiking, running or HITT exercises. It is a slipknot, it comes undone by pulling the loose ends.
I have Whitins and have been loving them for everyday wear and find them to be plenty wide. Haven't tried doing any serious activity in them but I could see how they may not be supportive enough for that. Still, the price difference is massive (they're ~$40 and Vivos are at ~$160+ right now I believe). So I'm sticking with them for now!
I’ve had mine for a year. I love them. I wear them for hikes, backpacking, biking, and just every day, almost. They held up amazingly well. Usually I destroy my shoes quickly, but these look almost like the day I got them. The cloth is much sturdier than it looks.
I've actually gotten to where I hate wearing regular shoes. I actually have several pairs of the WHITN barefoot sock shoes. I also have a pair of the zero drop shoes from Fugu. Down the road I plan on getting both Xero and Vevobarefoot.
I would say that is a pretty typical response. I wouldn't say I hate wearing normal shoes, but I share the sentiment of slowly moving away from conventional shoes because of the restriction. BUt in doing so , now I run into the problem with not having as many options to pick from . But at least it is better now compared to where there was only vibram five finger...
I just started my first barefoot shoes last month. With regular shoes, I usually feel an ache over 10000 steps, but with barefoot shoes, it's still comfortable over 15000 steps without any tight calf.
A note about knots: if the laces end up at 90° to each other (the loops pointing up and down), the knot will come loose on its own. If they're parallel, (they point left and right, like where they're coming from the eyelets), it will be more stable. Has to do with the underlying knot geometry, so you might need to change how you tie your shoes slightly!
One of the coolest tricks I ever learned. When the loops are pointing up and down, the underlying knot you’ve made is essentially a granny knot. When the loops lay left to right, the underlying knot is a square knot - much more secure. For me, the change was as simple as switching right-over-left to left-over-right on the beginning overhand knot. On a side note, I’m still amazed how quickly I adapted. Was tying my shoes the wrong way for 25 years, and basically overnight I completely changed and it stuck immediately. Never even accidentally tied them the wrong way again.
Well this is not always true…. It is less likely certainly for a square based knot to hold longer than a granny based knot…. But if the strings don’t have enough traction against each other and too little ply… they will ultimately slip loose regardless of how you tie them.
@@lizzaangelis3308When both the underlying knots and the upper *two* knots are all square knots, there is a *very* small chance of them coming undone - even the strings has no traction.
@ 2:37 re: toebox, look how much straighter the Vivos are from the ball joint to the end of the big toe. The others seem to still have some taper, which would still interfere with natural alignment.
hahaaaaa that girl checkin yo buns out on the sled push. :D lookin good my man! thanks for the review i think im sold on the xeros.... with the whitins already on the way ofc.
I've been using Xero shoes for a few years. I really like the Prio for everyday wear and running, the mesa trail for trail running/yardwork, and also have the waterproof boots for winter.
I've had my Xero Prios for about a year and half and use them almost daily for jogging. I was JUST looking at the waterproof boot!! Lol How do you like yours? Did you have to size up or did you order the exact same size as your Prios?
@@rebeccamueller8790 They have some now that look like rain boots, all rubber boots, to keep feet dry during the rain. Those are the ones I was interested in... But I haven't bought them yet... Was wondering if I should size up or down... 🤔🤔
I started with Xero Shoes and then switched to Lems... Lems are easily the nicest shoes I've ever owned, and I mean ALL shoes not just barefoot shoes, Lems are just top notch.
I injured my plantar fascia while training for an ultra. I was wearing Hokas at the time my plantar really never healed for almost a year. I followed a strict PT plan and made PT training adjustments during the year but still I felt weak in my arch. I decided to re learn how to run and do so with zero drops. I'm now running 10 miles a week, no more arch fatigue after 3 months running with zero drop. It's a slow process and I'm still figuring out how to run more efficiently, but I feel great and added bonus. No more knee pain or inflammation after my run.
Switched to Xero shoes about a year and a half ago and many problems I had have now gone away. Feet pain, lower back pain, bad posture, all gone soon after switching.
My issue with Whitin is that they are not truly zero drop unless you remove the insole. After removing it the bottom of the show deteriorates quickly. So far I like my Xero Shoes but my ultimate fav is the Merrell Vapor Glove. The Merrell has the thinnest sole and is the longest lasting and most durable.
I just got the Oranginer Men's Barefoot Shoes - Big Toe Box - Minimalist Cross Training Shoes ($40 on Amazon). Greatest shoes ever! Also rate high on RUclips review. Thought I'd have trouble adapting to zero-drop, ultra-flex (even after removing the arch supporting sole insert). Just doing the right exercises. Bunion already much improved, no more hip pain either. Even wear my toe spreader sets while working out or walking. And so good looking (got the beige).
I enjoyed your evaluations of these 3 brands of shoes. I have been wearing Xero Prios the last two years and have noticed a definite improvement in the strength of my ankles and calves. The wide toe box has eliminated about 90% of the numbness I developed from Morton's Neuroma; most likely caused by conventional style shoes with cramped toe box. I did not know there is a Whitin shoe on Amazon. I may try a pair for just casual wear. I use my Prios daily and have a few other Xero styles for casual and winter wear. I will stay with the zero drop style shoes from here on out since most of my foot problems have abated after acclimating to zero drop!
Starting wearing the the whitin ones almost a year an ago and loved them. Decided to finally upgrade to the vivo’s and my feet so hurt so incredibly bad even after wearing them after a month
I couldn't find any Vivo shoes that fit my feet comfortably. I love most of the Xero shoes, but there are only a couple of models that I can wear all day so sometimes I rotate my shoes at lunch time. I found that the Whitin are the thinnest and lightest of the three, and I think this is the reason why I can wear them 12+ hours without foot pain. However they provide almost no protection and I can't walk on gravel or sharp objects. They're truly the closest thing to being barefoot. With the Xero Shoes I can only do 12+ hours on the Xero Aptos and Xero Prio All Day, and both of those models do protect my feet from sharp objects. I was told after knee surgery that I wouldn't be able to wear minimalist shoes anymore, but it turned out to be the opposite. I wear minimalist shoes about 90-95% of the time now and I don't have any foot pain. Lifting weights barefoot and spending more time in barefoot shoes has eliminated my arch pains.
For indoor sports like badminton, volleyball, table tennis etc I can only recommend the xero 360 shoes. They give a lot of lateral support which you absolutely need without feeling too restrictive. I was even surprised by their great durability.
just got a pair of whitin trail cross trainers. I have a pair of asics that I use for playing pickleball and feel very comfortable in. Played with the whitins and found them very comfortable and stable for my feet. Not sure if I could wear them all the time but switching up regularly seems to be a good option the gum sole also seems to give a good grip.
Xero just recently had a big sale. I got my pair for $53 and my wife's pair for $27. We are both believers in the brand now after only owning them for about 2 weeks. Quality construction, good style, and the barefoot feel we were looking for are three of the reasons. I started with short runs and will be increasing distance as I strengthen my foot. It definitely changes the technique I use to run, so it's almost like learning how to run again. I like the feel of these shoes while lifting also: deadlifting feels more connected to the ground, kettlebell swings feel for stable, and planking was more comfortable (if that's possible, 😉). My coworker has Vivos and I like the looks of his better, but I'm a bit of a penny pincher so Xero Shoes fit my bill. I've actually order a couple more models of Xeros just before their sale ended, but they haven't arrived yet (hiking boots for my whole family). Hope my thoughts help someone!
I love my Xeros as well. I'm usually not one to give two figs for this or that brand, but Xero is one of the few that I like a lot and happily support. Really hope they keep churning out the styles, preferably some better-looking ones (sorry Xero - I love some of the styles/colors -- HFS pewters look great, the Alpine is badass, and the Mika makes me wish I was a woman -- but a lot of them are simply gnarly to look at lol).
I found your observations right on. Whitin doesn't have much lateral support. It's kind of like wearing your slippers outside. I use them often. Returned Vivo for just the reason your stated. Xero is my go to for active shoes if all types
Michael, see the extra hole for the laces on top of those vivos? Try and use them so that on the second last eyelet the lace goes under then straight over the last eyelet on the same side, do this with the other side and now you can continuously thread the laces over and over the heel lock so you don't have to actually tie the laces.
Been using the Xeros for 8 months. I run and lift weights in them. Love them. So far no issues. Xero says 5k miles. One thing I do like is when they get wet it doesn't matter. There is no foam to soak up h2o. I have a normal size 12 foot.
@@ForTeamTang Are you saying that if the toes get wet you can lose your footing and maybe cause an injury? I bought two pair of Xeros thinest sandal and the front part flops down and catches on things like carpet, grass, pebbles, roots and more. I have tried to swim in them and just like walking, the parracord loosens up in the plastic holders and they fall off in the water sometimes. I am not fond of the design but I like to foot to ground connection.
@@ForTeamTang that’s a good point but I don’t think most endurance runners care. Unless you are wearing Gortex material running 10k+ in the rain your feet are going to be wet. At least with the Xero shoes they will dry out faster and your feet will as well. I bought my first pair of XERO HFS for running and eventually want to transition to a running sandal where hopefully running sockless will mean even less issues when running in the rain. Great video and lots of good information, thanks for making it.
5:00 I would suggest using a better knot. The Double Slip Knot (1219 in Ashley's Book of Knots) or the Berluti Knot are both good options. I use the first myself & the tail being pulled is the only way I've had it come undone accidentally. Since we are talking about products & reviews of them what can you say about furniture for back pain? I didn't see anything in your prior videos when I searched your channel.
Will check out the knots for the future. I am not sure what you mean about "furniture" for back pain? Are you reffering to something like a massage chair or adjustable table? Thank you for your suggestions.
I've been wearing Vivos as volleyball shoes for a few months now, and I'm very happy. Definitely the best of the barefoot shoes I've worn. I started with Ballop, and they were okay, but didn't last long. Then Tadeevo, which had absolutely no traction on wooden floors. Finally, the Vivo, which I am still using.
hey bro , I am volleyball player too, what about feeling right now when u wear barefoot ? It that comfortable for u play ? Cuz i think wear barefoot that will suffered from the impact of landing😂😂
Within are my goto brand now. It's cost effective, it's great for beginners, and it seems their shoes hold up just as good as any premium brand. It's A no-brainer.
I go bare foot when I can, but during my weekday I can’t. After a day of school/work my toes and upper feet are sore and painful. Usually my knees hips and lower back are the same. However when I’m at home doing house work and farm work barefoot, I have no pain at all. Thanks to this video and similar ones, I think I’m going to invest in a pair of vivos.
I run and used the Xero Prios, they say fits to size and I got a 9 ran 4,000 miles in them but the more I was barefoot and no longer wearing "death coffins" my feet got wider and the Xeros were not big enough. My 2nd pair of Prios I went with a 9 1/2 they have 1500 miles on them they feel better but I can feel that I will need a wider shoe still. I also got the Xero Ztrek sandal and do run in them and they give me more width. Since the Vivos are not much wider than the Xeros I am not willing to spend 150 to find out and the sole is not as durable as the Xero from all I have heard. I like being able get long life from my shoes.
I used the Vibram 5 finger shoes several years ago, I really enjoyed them for running in the city. There is a difference between this type of shoe and the ones listed. When trying the shoes like the ones in this video, I still felt like I was wearing a shoe, whereas when I wore the 5 fingers, I felt barefoot. I think my balance was better and my legs felt stronger. One downside to the 5f shoes is that they are very particular to size, I have one of those more sloping feet where my little toe is shorter than my big toe, so I had to try several different sizes before I found one that worked. (also, if you wear them regularly you will get to know all about the 5 finger funk, they start to smell terrible, and there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. I got away from them because I joined the army and Uncle Sam told me what I was going to put on my feet. I've been out for a while now and have been wanting to get back into them, I liked my 5 fingers, but I was always worried about snagging and ripping my pinky toe in a rock or root out on a trail. I recently saw some 3 toe shoes that break up your big toe, middle two toes and outer toes so you end up with ninja turtle feet. These seemed like a good compromise for someone looking for the full minimalist experience while still getting some extra protection.
I also prefer my 5 fingers to the other minimalist shoes but they no longer make the 5 fingers I know fit. No store near me carries them and i have had to return a few (and lost money on a pair I couldn't return) trying to find a new style to fit. I'm trying some xero shoes but finding a pair for running (besides the diy sandal) I'm still struggling with fit. My foot pronates and in 5 fingers that doesn't affect fit. In minimalist shoes the wider toe box gives room for my foot to rotate somewhat inside the shoe and make them rub when I run. I'm thinking of trying the hfs when xero has their sale.
I have an inexpensive pair from Amazon (not Whitin) as a substitute for slipper socks. I love the minimalist feel. I wear them for chi gong practice, and just around the house. I wish I could wear for walking, but I had perineal tendinitis a year ago that took months to recover from, so I wear more supportive shoes for that. I also have flat feet.
I have a couple pair of Zeros and I have owned a pair of Vivos. The Zeros, I love, and use almost 3 different ones every week. I do not have the whitin, to compare them. I love my zeros!
I’ve already ordered some Whitin shoes. I used to run barefoot. I feel that you get some type of memory blood for this. After a couple years of not going barefoot, you can get back into it pretty easily. You won’t get calluses or blisters. You just have a wholeness that works. That’s why Whitin might be better for me. I also like my Lems which tend to gush the foot more because of the narrow heal compared to the expanded toe box. While this may not be entirely natural, it helps in the overall sense of balance.
I bought a pair of Xero Forza trainers and I wear them to play basketball. I've been wearing minimal shoes for for 15+ years though, so my feet, ankles and knees are exceptionally strong and I'm not worried about any additional injury risk playing hoops.
Don’t go straight into wearing these if you have problems with your feet/ankle complex. Strengthen intrinsically and extrinsically, first, and then you can start wearing them in short bursts 30 -90 minutes at a time. Good info tho! Nice to hear from a “non-running guy”. Carson K., PTA
The Xero 360s are great for cross-training. I run in them, scramble (on rock) in them, and backpack in them. Zero complaints and very comfortable. PS. moving to zero-drop minimalist shoes should be a gradual progression. If you go all in from day one you'll probably have some side effects that may throw you off. However breaking in gradually your ankles and arches will adapt. That said I went pretty much all in and haven't worn anything else in many years (except for a very few formal events where "fancy" shoes were called for). My ankles and arches are in great shape.
@@petejr5248 yeah they are. Transition to them first if you're coming from higher, softer shoes. takes a while for calves to lengthen and strengthen up. I use the Xero 360's and Whitin trail runners for HIITs.
The glue attaching the soles on my Xeros broke loose on two spots on both shoes in about 9 months, and I only wore them indoors on gym flooring. Not impressed with durability. Comfort is amazing though. I put some shoe goo into the rips and I’ll wear them until the soles are done, but for the price they should have lasted longer.
I love Xero shoes. I tried 5 different pairs of Vivos and they were all way too long beyond my big toe and the only thing that seemed to change with the sizing differences was the width. I just recieved my first pair of Splay shoes and found they run a bit small but now that I have the size right, They feel pretty good.
When I started wearing barefoot shoes (a couple of styles of Purestep) I stopped wearing socks. When I go for walks, my feet often get wet, but I don't find that a problem unless I'm wearing socks.
I have zeros which have held up well the thin insoles are the most worn after two years which I can replace I have bought whiten and hobibear from Amazon xero are so expensive for Canadians Both the cheaper are comfy and seem to hold up well hobibear actually has a cushioned heal
The Vivobarefoot shoes are extremely high quality. I’m at almost a year on one pair and I walk and run in them ALOT. By contrast I tried a pair of Whitins that fell apart and wore through the bottom in about a month and a half under similar usage as the Vivobarefoot. Lesson: you get what you pay for.
I agree, I've had some vivos for few years now, and just want to beat them and wear them out (so I can throw them away and get some of the cool new models) but I just can't. Can't seem to be able to wear the sole out, the stitching is holding up.. they just keep going. The lesson for me is just to go and invest into models that I really like cause they will last a long time and will keep making me happy daily
Yeah, Whitins are basically slippers. Casual wear only. They are great for airport travel or for throwing them into some luggage as an extra pair of shoes because they pack flat.
Been doing barefoot since they came out, Most are too narrow in toebox (Merrill and New Balance) they also discontinue shoes with great popularity before i can buy again (if i liked that shoe). Zero tends to fall apart before i think they should (both in sole coming off, but side begins looking rough too early). Am trying the Whitn as it is in the price range, that if it comes apart like the zero's do, then i won't be bothered what they cost. I will put the Vivo's on my radar as the shoe you show looks woth checkiing out.
I've put a lot of miles running in Whitin shoes and they are fine. I've even done a few obstacle runs in them. They're my favorite of the three. I like the others, but Whitin fits my feet best.
Re the laces, in your video the bow points to the toe rather than the side which means you are tying the bow the wrong way. Start with left lace over right not right over left. The bow will point to the side and your laces are much less likely to come undone. Bizarre I know but it took me fifty years to learn how to tie my laces properly. There are technical knot reasons why this works. Hope this helps.
hello doc. i have a question caused by lack of knowledge on this type of shoes. i am starting to look at barefoot shoes and never owned them. i am now looking for my first pair. my question is: are this shoes good for overpronation? because i walk really bad and i literally kill every pair of shoes in 2 to 3 months. my heel turns on the inside a lot so it's pretty bad for my walking and my shoes. can overpronation be fixed or at least reduced with barefoot shoes? or is specific insole enough? thank you for your help
I actually have pairs of all 3, & they serve different purposes. Whitins, I use for a casual/errand shoe because they look good, AND, have strengthened by feet. The Zeros I bought because they were on sale ($60, discontinued model), & use for the same reason as the Whitins, AND, if I want to go on a longer-than-usual walk. The Vivobarefoot, are my favorites. I have 4 different pairs for various reasons (hiking, work, casual). For some reason, they just do it for me (The Tracker SG model is my favorite). All of them are comfortable (to ME), but the Vivos are the ones I wear the most.
Would love to see a video on strenghting the foot. I want to transition to barefoot but a bit lost in all the advice when it comes to foot and arch strenght
*them not then. And be sure to do one foot at a time as well and do really slow ones as well as regular ones. Do slow one foot ones too, that’s how you’ll really build strength once you build up to it a bit. Start with ten in a turned out position with your heels as close together as they get while having straight legs, so like worth about your knees touching rather than your heels if that makes sense
I love the xero prio's I wear, but they have not held up well at all. The sole is beginning to split off near the ball of my foot and the toe area on both shoes are beginning to split. I wear them all the time. One thing about going to minimalist shoes, you won't be able to stand wearing regular shoes after you've adapted to the minimalist nature of the shoes.
@@ForTeamTang I’m not a sports person, but am on my feet all day. Last year Xero started offering a shoe thought for the service industry, “Prio All Day”. I’m very impressed with their quality. I wear them every work day, and they still look very well.
Thanks for the basketball part! It's a barefoot / minimalist void that needs to be filled. I was considering Whitins and the Xeros for hoops, since I heard 1 or 2 people play in certain Xeros, but maybe I won't now. There's a brand called Joomra which has a shoe almost exactly like those Whitins, but if you look at the back it's a totally different strucure. There's a review video on here where the guy says it feels more like a regular shoe structure in the back while still maintaining the wider toe box, just FYI. I may try those. Thanks for thise review. Super helpful!
I use xero 360 for basketball. No problems. It took me about 3 months of training in barefoot shoes to get comfortable with them. Now basketball shoes feel weird haha.
@@harrysidhu4027 Thanks for your input. Does it feel restrictive going full court and what's your take about those on outdoor courts? Feel free to share what you did to transition in 3 months. And yes I know what you mean about not being able to go back to hoops shoes.
@@ForTeamTang Hey so I got the Joomras and they legit feel like a hidden gem in terms of full sneaker feel and support with the barefoot shoe benefits. For reference of which exact ones just type in Joomras vs Whitin. The channel is Total Therapy Solution. He has a few videos on them. I tested mine twice now on outdoor courts. It's really grippy traction and is really soft so not sure about outsole durability but after my two sessions no wear down areas at all. Their toe box is very wide. I'm a size 10.5, got their 10 wide. I still had an inch or two of toe space so could've done 9 wide but I like slight toe room from the front of the shoe. Played one on one, felt no restrictions in basketball movements compared to my some of my cross trainer barefoot shoes. Actually felt more free in them. As for cushioning it's really soft but why it works is because you sink right to ground for excellent ground feel, but with a hint more cushioning feel you would want on concrete. I took my insole out for less cushioning but it's okay with it in. It's not the hottest looking thing lol, but I think they accidentally made a good basketball tennis shoe. Lateral support was great and they have a runners knot for extra lockdown. Any other questions let me know. Or if you found something else that works feel free to share. Thanks!
I use Vibram 5 fingers (training style). Great in the gym and good for runs and trail running (if it's not slick). They are great, but wore holes in the 2nd toe on both shoes after only a few months. Some shoe goo and a dime over the hole helped them last a couple of years. Now I'm shopping again because I have a hole on the ball of the foot. Vivo Bare looks interesting for running. I love my V Trains so maybe I might keep those old ones for lifting
I have the Whitins and I just came from a 6km run, they're so cool. and 1/4 the price of the Zero Shoes. Maybe someday I get them Vivo or Zero. My Whitins are not loose at all, and I do have a small feet. I dont even lace them up anymore, just stretch and put, they're tight. 6km easily, I've never tried them on the long run 10km+
Update: I bought the Xero HFS New on ebay at a bargain. The difference with Withins. Wider and comfortable wide foot makes a good difference, even when the Whitins fit perfectly too, wit a little minimal 1 or maybe even 2mm midfoot arch sole, perhaps it can be taken off if desired. My girl asked me to wear Whitins while going out some place cause she likes how they look, unexpected.
I worked 16-18hr days 7 days a week all through covid cleaning and disinfecting for my commercial/industrial cleaning business…I tried multiple types of shoe that did nothing but kill my back legs and feet which then spread to neck/shoulder since I found the whitin brand no more pain and they don’t strip my feet from sweating or otherwise! They are very useful for continuous slip free movement, agility and breathability. Since going barefoot I have no pain and now that things have calmed down to a 10-12hr shift 5 days a week I am running on treadmill with whitin…couldn’t do that before…they are very durable I throw one pair in the washer while I wear a second pair…best shoes I have ever worn and when available I go barefoot completely. A whole new world after years of willpower through chronic pain…barefoot is the way for me and Whitin is my brand!
the thing that makes whitin nice is the price on sale there shoes go down to 42 bucks for a pair. Xero can be quite expensive with how often they wear out the soles last but build quaility can be lacking for the price tag of the shoe
I bought xero shoes because someone had mention it help their arch pain and ankle stability. I’ve had them for two years and my arches are higher and my ankles are stronger. So In my experience they do strengthen the feet.
3:30 the ‘ethnic foot shapes’ thing seemed pretty questionable so I searched around a bit. I found charts and descriptions which claim to be the same thing, but swap characteristics around. I don’t closely match any of the shapes in that diagram & couldn’t find any studies which support a taxonomy like that.
I did not confirm the extent to which the validity of the picture is, however I would like to iterate that the main idea of the diagram is the variability between foot types.
Experimenting the xeros now. But comfort wise for long walks, I still think the old school reebok dmx was the best. It's like walking on clouds. Does that mean the "comfort" softness was bad for me?
Bought a pair of the Whitin Xtra Wide and found they're basically made for narrow feet. I am a "Triple E" in old skool measuring and these were like putting on a pair of Nikes: tight across the 'toe box' that felt like the too-tight shoes I grew up wearing. Just for the heck of it, looking for something to wear just around the house, I picked up a pair of Sketcher slip-ons and they're wider through the toe box than the Whitins by miles. My big fat Flintstone feet fit comfortably. Of course, I try to not wear shoes if I can help it and practice picking things up with my toes to keep my feet healthy. I'm going to stick with the Sketchers.
I'm an elderly woman and I've been wearing barefoot (Xero and Whitin, mostly Xero) for about 2 years, exclusively. I actually like the feel of the Whitin - almost like not wearing shoes at all. The Xeros, of course, offer a bit more support. The best thing about these shoes for me is the feeling of balance and security. The thin sole actually prevents ankle injuries if you step off the edge of a sidewalk because your foot can compensate, which it cannot do with a thick and stiff sole. They take a bit of getting used to, but completely worth it. I wore New Balance shoes in a wide width before barefoot style and won't go back to heavy, thick, running or walking shoes ever again. I also have a problem with most athletic shoes because of the heel protruding in the back. I would "catch" the heel on steps when going down stairs.
Excellent observations 🍀
I'm not elderly yet, but I've found myself tripping and falling a lot when I wear shoes with thick or squishy soles. I'm trying to transition now to barefoot shoes since it feels more stable.
Ditto for me!! Just want to add that Altras help to transition to Xeros
Same here, I have hypermobile ankles and have been tripping since I can remember. Whitin were my first barefoot shoes, it was a foot-opening experience ;-) I do wear thin insoles though in some shoes.
@@annvoy7698 Yes, those Whitin shoes have very thin soles. You can feel every little stone and bump through them. I got used to it though, and don't use insoles.
For some exposition: I'm a tall overweight middle aged woman, who lives in s big city, walks 1/2 mile to work and stands on hard surface all day.
I have been wearing mens wide shoes for a while because womens wide shoes never felt wide enough. I got my first pair of minimalist shoes a few weeks ago (xero prio's). At first they felt weird, the outside of my shins felt strained and stepping on my first rock almost made me fall down. After wearing them for just a few weeks my shins feel better and ive gotten used to stepping on rocks and the cracks in the city streets. I love being able to wiggle my toes in the shoes. I definitely want to buy another pair.
I have been playing and walking barefoot wherever I lived since I was a child, also on the beach and while climbing rocks and small cliffs at the beach. I always felt shoes to be a constrictive norm and thus I welcome this new trend so that i can virtually walk barefoot everywhere.
You were ahead of the game!
Same here I’m West Indian born island life no shoes always barefoot
I don’t like my feet in shoes since I was a child I’m a island born West Indian. I just came back the the USA and find wearing shoes hurt my feet. I just transition to xerox shoes and lems cleaning out my closet. 😂 the only sneaker I really liked were the Nike 5.0 barefoot running shoes I didn’t realize they were barefoot shoes until just the other day. I had bought so many pairs and had a brand new pair in the closet and started wearing them in the gym and read the inside of the shoe barefoot running smh 🤦🏾♂️
60 now and still barefoot most of the time. I live in a large city in the upper Midwest. I get a lot of flak from people. Whatever.
Every spring I have to build up my calluses for concrete, rocks, etc.
Love my Whitins. Been wearing them for a couple of years now.
Thank you for this analysis, especially the bit at end regarding foot strength and health. I love my barefoot shoes, but I've seen too many people talk about barefoot shoes like they're some kind of miracle cure for all foot-related problems.
I've had the same pair of whitins for like 2 and a half years, I use them for everything hiking, running, lifting, casual wear. The sole is now almost worn through, but I love them. It's the older canvas ones. I haven't tried the newer ones yet.
Glad they work for you!
That is very impressive for such a small amount of material!
I have Whitins and Xeros. I love them both! They are so comfortable. I wear my Xeros everyday. The Whitins I have are a cheetah print pattern I bought for fun fashion occasions so I don't wear them as often, but I do like them.
I have been running and hiking in Xero shoes for 8 years now, and I have been barefoot for 10 years in total. I started with Altras and Vivo and tried Lems. I use speed laces on all of them, and I have stretch laces on my old Altras because they are for bike riding. I'm 64 and was born with severe club feet back in 1960. Numerous operations and too many years of wearing those heavy steel and leather braces (Think Forest Gump but below the knees). Zero-drop barefoot shoes are the best thing that ever happened to my feet after all of the corrective surgeries. I just walked/jogged in my Xero HFS shoes yesterday. I jog uphill and walk back down.
Great video thanks for it. After a debilitating injury I went barefoot style 12 months ago; I've been pain free 7 months. I now wear the Whitins everyday. There is a Whiten "wide" shoe model as well, I wear it everyday working on concrete in a shop with North Sole inserts, and wear the normal Whiten style as a casual shoe off work. I wear a finger style vibrum for WO and cardio. I wear toe spacers around the house barefoot. Big fan of the Whitens but I do wish the box was little wider too. Think I may need to try xero as I think about moving into running. Thanks for video again, all the best.
Great video. Army wrecked my feet and arches. Switching to minimalist shoes made the biggest improvement.
Nice!
Hello any particular favorite when it comes to arch support?
@@gt9748 I think Lems makes a really comfortable zero drop that still has a bit of padding.
Just a quick update: the Whitins have a version called "Wide Knit" which have a wider toe box. I accidentally bought those and I am quite happy for this mistake, as they are really great and super comfortable even with the toe spacers on my feet. The "Wide Knit" variations look totally similar to those you bought, come in 6 colors and of course a wider toe box.
😮 Sure , I'll check it out when I get a chance
You mean wide size? I bought size 8 wide instead of 8. There are "wide" variations on sizes
@@LuisC7 Yep, probably there are different ways how the Whitin products are labeled on amazon. Here in Germany, you could find one category labelled "Unisex canvas minimalist barefoot" and another as "Unisex Wide Knit barefoot" - the latter one is the one I bought. By looking at the product photos, it is indeed wider than the other type.
@@oumarh.gassama8063 oh ok awesome. So you like your withins? Are they good? Found any issues? I bought mine from amazon usa so they take a bit to arrive. Didn't know they were found ona amazon DE. Probably for cheaper too!
@@LuisC7 Well, wearing my pairs (all black) since a month or so. They have a removable le insole which is not too thick and are actually comfortable, but I instantly removed those to have a true barefoot feeling. So far, all good. They are really comfortable even without the insoles, and the toe box is wide and comfortable too (I was wearing it even with toe spacers on, although I have fairly narrow feet). The laces are good an not slippery - if you tie them they stay as they should all day.
"But hey, I mean, I like what I like." Love your vibe my friend. Thanks for the informative video!
You gotta try the Whitin trail runners. Not for running but for the gym, they fix almost all the problems you had with them. Much more supportive and study and the pull laces make them snug, but still the barefoot feel. And they’re the same price. Cons for me is just the sole kind of makes it look like a toe shoe even though it isn’t on the inside
Ill check them out when I get a chance. They kind of remind me of the Vibrams.
This is huge, their trail runners are another level and they have some more casual trailers, and some with straps that really get support around the ankle area and provide that anti-slip functionality.
What size did you get? I usually get a 11.5 but they dont have my size. So i'm wondering should i go 11 or a 12. I will be wearing socks.
I have two pairs that I wear daily. They've been around for at least a year and I love them for just about everything, except long hikes. My feet aren't ready for crazy terrain and anything beyond a mile or so starts to hurt. But, for walking around, the gym, they're solid shoes. I have worn them for 15+ hours at work on hard concrete and they felt better than my regular shoes. And for $40, it's remarkable how well they have held up.
Congratulations on becoming a DPT and all your work in the community. Without some great PTs, I wouldn't have been able to finish my 20+ year Army career. Great review; I keep getting disappointed with dropping quality control and poor products from companies (Altra, talking to you) asking almost $200 for minimum products... good to hear from a professional this topic before a purchase.
Glad I could help and I appreciate your words!
That “extra wide” foot 🦶🏼 though! I pray I wouldn’t have nightmares tonight.
Informative video, thanks.
😂
It was a nice to have a video on this subject from someone with professional credentials!
If you are still having problems with laces coming undone, then look up the Berluti knot. Is a double knot originally developed for dress shoes but works on anything. It takes a little getting used to, but I've never had one come undone while walking, hiking, running or HITT exercises. It is a slipknot, it comes undone by pulling the loose ends.
Thanks!
I have Whitins and have been loving them for everyday wear and find them to be plenty wide. Haven't tried doing any serious activity in them but I could see how they may not be supportive enough for that. Still, the price difference is massive (they're ~$40 and Vivos are at ~$160+ right now I believe). So I'm sticking with them for now!
I’ve had mine for a year. I love them. I wear them for hikes, backpacking, biking, and just every day, almost. They held up amazingly well. Usually I destroy my shoes quickly, but these look almost like the day I got them. The cloth is much sturdier than it looks.
What about winter?
@@kdcbattlecreekthey're cold!! around 0-5 degree celsius my feet were freezing haha
U r supporting China..to bad
@@johnseaton4396 🤣 From what country is every electronic device you own? Ur supporting China too if that matters so much
I've actually gotten to where I hate wearing regular shoes. I actually have several pairs of the WHITN barefoot sock shoes. I also have a pair of the zero drop shoes from Fugu. Down the road I plan on getting both Xero and Vevobarefoot.
I would say that is a pretty typical response. I wouldn't say I hate wearing normal shoes, but I share the sentiment of slowly moving away from conventional shoes because of the restriction. BUt in doing so , now I run into the problem with not having as many options to pick from . But at least it is better now compared to where there was only vibram five finger...
I just started my first barefoot shoes last month. With regular shoes, I usually feel an ache over 10000 steps, but with barefoot shoes, it's still comfortable over 15000 steps without any tight calf.
A note about knots: if the laces end up at 90° to each other (the loops pointing up and down), the knot will come loose on its own. If they're parallel, (they point left and right, like where they're coming from the eyelets), it will be more stable.
Has to do with the underlying knot geometry, so you might need to change how you tie your shoes slightly!
One of the coolest tricks I ever learned. When the loops are pointing up and down, the underlying knot you’ve made is essentially a granny knot. When the loops lay left to right, the underlying knot is a square knot - much more secure.
For me, the change was as simple as switching right-over-left to left-over-right on the beginning overhand knot. On a side note, I’m still amazed how quickly I adapted. Was tying my shoes the wrong way for 25 years, and basically overnight I completely changed and it stuck immediately. Never even accidentally tied them the wrong way again.
Well this is not always true…. It is less likely certainly for a square based knot to hold longer than a granny based knot…. But if the strings don’t have enough traction against each other and too little ply… they will ultimately slip loose regardless of how you tie them.
@@lizzaangelis3308When both the underlying knots and the upper *two* knots are all square knots, there is a *very* small chance of them coming undone - even the strings has no traction.
Switch to flat laces and problem solved.
@ 2:37 re: toebox, look how much straighter the Vivos are from the ball joint to the end of the big toe. The others seem to still have some taper, which would still interfere with natural alignment.
hahaaaaa that girl checkin yo buns out on the sled push. :D lookin good my man! thanks for the review i think im sold on the xeros.... with the whitins already on the way ofc.
Literally covered every aspect I could have wanted to know, epic review brotha!
I've been using Xero shoes for a few years. I really like the Prio for everyday wear and running, the mesa trail for trail running/yardwork, and also have the waterproof boots for winter.
I've had my Xero Prios for about a year and half and use them almost daily for jogging.
I was JUST looking at the waterproof boot!! Lol How do you like yours?
Did you have to size up or did you order the exact same size as your Prios?
Yeah I want to know about the winter boots too, is that what you mean?
@@rebeccamueller8790 They have some now that look like rain boots, all rubber boots, to keep feet dry during the rain.
Those are the ones I was interested in... But I haven't bought them yet...
Was wondering if I should size up or down... 🤔🤔
Have you played any spots in them? Doesn't have to be for a team, just for fun
I started with Xero Shoes and then switched to Lems... Lems are easily the nicest shoes I've ever owned, and I mean ALL shoes not just barefoot shoes, Lems are just top notch.
I injured my plantar fascia while training for an ultra. I was wearing Hokas at the time my plantar really never healed for almost a year. I followed a strict PT plan and made PT training adjustments during the year but still I felt weak in my arch. I decided to re learn how to run and do so with zero drops. I'm now running 10 miles a week, no more arch fatigue after 3 months running with zero drop. It's a slow process and I'm still figuring out how to run more efficiently, but I feel great and added bonus. No more knee pain or inflammation after my run.
Great video. I have 4 pairs of Zero shoes and love them. I’ve been wearing them for about 8 months. I love the roomy toe box for my toes.
Switched to Xero shoes about a year and a half ago and many problems I had have now gone away. Feet pain, lower back pain, bad posture, all gone soon after switching.
what toe spacers does he use?
My issue with Whitin is that they are not truly zero drop unless you remove the insole. After removing it the bottom of the show deteriorates quickly.
So far I like my Xero Shoes but my ultimate fav is the Merrell Vapor Glove. The Merrell has the thinnest sole and is the longest lasting and most durable.
thank you, these are incredibly helpful in my decision making for the Xeros! very informative and highly recommended. Thanks Doc Michael!
Glad I could help!
I just got the Oranginer Men's Barefoot Shoes - Big Toe Box - Minimalist Cross Training Shoes ($40 on Amazon). Greatest shoes ever! Also rate high on RUclips review. Thought I'd have trouble adapting to zero-drop, ultra-flex (even after removing the arch supporting sole insert). Just doing the right exercises. Bunion already much improved, no more hip pain either. Even wear my toe spreader sets while working out or walking. And so good looking (got the beige).
I enjoyed your evaluations of these 3 brands of shoes. I have been wearing Xero Prios the last two years and have noticed a definite improvement in the strength of my ankles and calves. The wide toe box has eliminated about 90% of the numbness I developed from Morton's Neuroma; most likely caused by conventional style shoes with cramped toe box. I did not know there is a Whitin shoe on Amazon. I may try a pair for just casual wear. I use my Prios daily and have a few other Xero styles for casual and winter wear. I will stay with the zero drop style shoes from here on out since most of my foot problems have abated after acclimating to zero drop!
Starting wearing the the whitin ones almost a year an ago and loved them. Decided to finally upgrade to the vivo’s and my feet so hurt so incredibly bad even after wearing them after a month
I couldn't find any Vivo shoes that fit my feet comfortably. I love most of the Xero shoes, but there are only a couple of models that I can wear all day so sometimes I rotate my shoes at lunch time. I found that the Whitin are the thinnest and lightest of the three, and I think this is the reason why I can wear them 12+ hours without foot pain. However they provide almost no protection and I can't walk on gravel or sharp objects. They're truly the closest thing to being barefoot. With the Xero Shoes I can only do 12+ hours on the Xero Aptos and Xero Prio All Day, and both of those models do protect my feet from sharp objects.
I was told after knee surgery that I wouldn't be able to wear minimalist shoes anymore, but it turned out to be the opposite. I wear minimalist shoes about 90-95% of the time now and I don't have any foot pain. Lifting weights barefoot and spending more time in barefoot shoes has eliminated my arch pains.
Strength and function go hand in hand
For indoor sports like badminton, volleyball, table tennis etc I can only recommend the xero 360 shoes. They give a lot of lateral support which you absolutely need without feeling too restrictive. I was even surprised by their great durability.
badminton has it's own type of shoes too. Not sure if these shoes will hold up well in sudden movements
Great review. I went with the vivos. Hoping they are as good as they look.
I've had Whitin for 6 months so far and they're fine. AND $38.
The suggestion for sizing up on the Xero shoes is specifically for that model. On the website they mention sizing suggestions per model.
Correct
just got a pair of whitin trail cross trainers. I have a pair of asics that I use for playing pickleball and feel very comfortable in. Played with the whitins and found them very comfortable and stable for my feet. Not sure if I could wear them all the time but switching up regularly seems to be a good option the gum sole also seems to give a good grip.
Xero just recently had a big sale. I got my pair for $53 and my wife's pair for $27. We are both believers in the brand now after only owning them for about 2 weeks. Quality construction, good style, and the barefoot feel we were looking for are three of the reasons. I started with short runs and will be increasing distance as I strengthen my foot. It definitely changes the technique I use to run, so it's almost like learning how to run again. I like the feel of these shoes while lifting also: deadlifting feels more connected to the ground, kettlebell swings feel for stable, and planking was more comfortable (if that's possible, 😉). My coworker has Vivos and I like the looks of his better, but I'm a bit of a penny pincher so Xero Shoes fit my bill. I've actually order a couple more models of Xeros just before their sale ended, but they haven't arrived yet (hiking boots for my whole family). Hope my thoughts help someone!
Glad you like 'em ;)
How did you get the sale?
I love my Xeros as well. I'm usually not one to give two figs for this or that brand, but Xero is one of the few that I like a lot and happily support. Really hope they keep churning out the styles, preferably some better-looking ones (sorry Xero - I love some of the styles/colors -- HFS pewters look great, the Alpine is badass, and the Mika makes me wish I was a woman -- but a lot of them are simply gnarly to look at lol).
@@xeroshoeswow Xero themselves responded
Good. I can't imagine paying $150 for any of them. I can buy four pairs of Whitish for that much.
I found your observations right on. Whitin doesn't have much lateral support. It's kind of like wearing your slippers outside. I use them often. Returned Vivo for just the reason your stated. Xero is my go to for active shoes if all types
Michael, see the extra hole for the laces on top of those vivos? Try and use them so that on the second last eyelet the lace goes under then straight over
the last eyelet on the same side, do this with the other side and now you can continuously thread the laces over and over the heel lock so you don't have to actually tie the laces.
Been using the Xeros for 8 months. I run and lift weights in them. Love them. So far no issues. Xero says 5k miles. One thing I do like is when they get wet it doesn't matter. There is no foam to soak up h2o. I have a normal size 12 foot.
You are right they have no foam to absorb the water, but there is no barrier against the water. So if there is water , it's going straight to toes!
@@ForTeamTang Are you saying that if the toes get wet you can lose your footing and maybe cause an injury? I bought two pair of Xeros thinest sandal and the front part flops down and catches on things like carpet, grass, pebbles, roots and more. I have tried to swim in them and just like walking, the parracord loosens up in the plastic holders and they fall off in the water sometimes. I am not fond of the design but I like to foot to ground connection.
@@ArtOfHealth All I am saying is that they get wet very easily. They are not like other typical sneakers that some water resistance to them
@@ForTeamTang that’s a good point but I don’t think most endurance runners care. Unless you are wearing Gortex material running 10k+ in the rain your feet are going to be wet. At least with the Xero shoes they will dry out faster and your feet will as well. I bought my first pair of XERO HFS for running and eventually want to transition to a running sandal where hopefully running sockless will mean even less issues when running in the rain. Great video and lots of good information, thanks for making it.
5:00 I would suggest using a better knot. The Double Slip Knot (1219 in Ashley's Book of Knots) or the Berluti Knot are both good options. I use the first myself & the tail being pulled is the only way I've had it come undone accidentally.
Since we are talking about products & reviews of them what can you say about furniture for back pain? I didn't see anything in your prior videos when I searched your channel.
Will check out the knots for the future.
I am not sure what you mean about "furniture" for back pain? Are you reffering to something like a massage chair or adjustable table?
Thank you for your suggestions.
I've been wearing Vivos as volleyball shoes for a few months now, and I'm very happy. Definitely the best of the barefoot shoes I've worn. I started with Ballop, and they were okay, but didn't last long. Then Tadeevo, which had absolutely no traction on wooden floors. Finally, the Vivo, which I am still using.
hey bro , I am volleyball player too, what about feeling right now when u wear barefoot ? It that comfortable for u play ? Cuz i think wear barefoot that will suffered from the impact of landing😂😂
@@rudyjames1802 I haven't had any issues from jumping at all, and I definitely find them very comfortable to play in.
@@malcolm_in_the_middle okay
Appreciate it
Do you prefer vivo over Xero?
Within are my goto brand now. It's cost effective, it's great for beginners, and it seems their shoes hold up just as good as any premium brand. It's A no-brainer.
I go bare foot when I can, but during my weekday I can’t. After a day of school/work my toes and upper feet are sore and painful. Usually my knees hips and lower back are the same. However when I’m at home doing house work and farm work barefoot, I have no pain at all. Thanks to this video and similar ones, I think I’m going to invest in a pair of vivos.
I run and used the Xero Prios, they say fits to size and I got a 9 ran 4,000 miles in them but the more I was barefoot and no longer wearing "death coffins" my feet got wider and the Xeros were not big enough. My 2nd pair of Prios I went with a 9 1/2 they have 1500 miles on them they feel better but I can feel that I will need a wider shoe still. I also got the Xero Ztrek sandal and do run in them and they give me more width. Since the Vivos are not much wider than the Xeros I am not willing to spend 150 to find out and the sole is not as durable as the Xero from all I have heard. I like being able get long life from my shoes.
I used the Vibram 5 finger shoes several years ago, I really enjoyed them for running in the city. There is a difference between this type of shoe and the ones listed. When trying the shoes like the ones in this video, I still felt like I was wearing a shoe, whereas when I wore the 5 fingers, I felt barefoot. I think my balance was better and my legs felt stronger. One downside to the 5f shoes is that they are very particular to size, I have one of those more sloping feet where my little toe is shorter than my big toe, so I had to try several different sizes before I found one that worked. (also, if you wear them regularly you will get to know all about the 5 finger funk, they start to smell terrible, and there's not a whole lot that can be done about it. I got away from them because I joined the army and Uncle Sam told me what I was going to put on my feet. I've been out for a while now and have been wanting to get back into them, I liked my 5 fingers, but I was always worried about snagging and ripping my pinky toe in a rock or root out on a trail. I recently saw some 3 toe shoes that break up your big toe, middle two toes and outer toes so you end up with ninja turtle feet. These seemed like a good compromise for someone looking for the full minimalist experience while still getting some extra protection.
Perhaps try some toe socks to address the smell
What are the 3-toe shoes you mention called? Interested in looking at them
@@timothylee6023 Body Glove 3T
I also prefer my 5 fingers to the other minimalist shoes but they no longer make the 5 fingers I know fit. No store near me carries them and i have had to return a few (and lost money on a pair I couldn't return) trying to find a new style to fit. I'm trying some xero shoes but finding a pair for running (besides the diy sandal) I'm still struggling with fit. My foot pronates and in 5 fingers that doesn't affect fit. In minimalist shoes the wider toe box gives room for my foot to rotate somewhat inside the shoe and make them rub when I run. I'm thinking of trying the hfs when xero has their sale.
I got the Whitin Slip-ons and laced version. Great stuff. Very comfortable and the slip-ons truly slip on.
I would love those for just sitting at a desk. I have to walk the halls more than desk work though.
I have an inexpensive pair from Amazon (not Whitin) as a substitute for slipper socks. I love the minimalist feel. I wear them for chi gong practice, and just around the house. I wish I could wear for walking, but I had perineal tendinitis a year ago that took months to recover from, so I wear more supportive shoes for that. I also have flat feet.
I've just bought a cheapo pair from Amazon to wear instead of my slippers during winter (I walk around barefoot indoors when the weather is warmer)
Informative review video! Thank you!
I have a couple pair of Zeros and I have owned a pair of Vivos. The Zeros, I love, and use almost 3 different ones every week. I do not have the whitin, to compare them. I love my zeros!
I’ve already ordered some Whitin shoes. I used to run barefoot. I feel that you get some type of memory blood for this. After a couple years of not going barefoot, you can get back into it pretty easily. You won’t get calluses or blisters. You just have a wholeness that works. That’s why Whitin might be better for me. I also like my Lems which tend to gush the foot more because of the narrow heal compared to the expanded toe box. While this may not be entirely natural, it helps in the overall sense of balance.
I learned forefoot running on whitin shoes. Now I can use their road trainers
I got the vivobarefoot primus lite 3. They were a bit oversized at first but I feel like they gave my feet a lot of freedom to widen.
I bought a pair of Xero Forza trainers and I wear them to play basketball. I've been wearing minimal shoes for for 15+ years though, so my feet, ankles and knees are exceptionally strong and I'm not worried about any additional injury risk playing hoops.
The xero shoes have the Huaracha style lace straps. forgot to
mention that
4:45 If you wrap around the bow twice they will not come undone and are easier to untie than double knotting.
I’ve put arch supports in my vivo and it worked well
Don’t go straight into wearing these if you have problems with your feet/ankle complex. Strengthen intrinsically and extrinsically, first, and then you can start wearing them in short bursts 30 -90 minutes at a time. Good info tho! Nice to hear from a “non-running guy”. Carson K., PTA
I'm really enjoying the vivo leather shoe/boot models they have.
Here, commenting to return some of the value you gave me with this good review
Much appreciated 🥳
The Xero 360s are great for cross-training. I run in them, scramble (on rock) in them, and backpack in them. Zero complaints and very comfortable. PS. moving to zero-drop minimalist shoes should be a gradual progression. If you go all in from day one you'll probably have some side effects that may throw you off. However breaking in gradually your ankles and arches will adapt. That said I went pretty much all in and haven't worn anything else in many years (except for a very few formal events where "fancy" shoes were called for). My ankles and arches are in great shape.
are the 360’s good for boot camp / HITT Training
@@petejr5248 yeah they are. Transition to them first if you're coming from higher, softer shoes. takes a while for calves to lengthen and strengthen up. I use the Xero 360's and Whitin trail runners for HIITs.
This is good to hear! I just bought my first pair (different brand) for everyday but am looking at the 360 for workouts (lifting, HIIT, etc). Thanks!
@@petejr5248 As Brian said - yes. The have excellent multi-directional grip and are basically designed for that use case.
The glue attaching the soles on my Xeros broke loose on two spots on both shoes in about 9 months, and I only wore them indoors on gym flooring. Not impressed with durability. Comfort is amazing though. I put some shoe goo into the rips and I’ll wear them until the soles are done, but for the price they should have lasted longer.
I love Xero shoes. I tried 5 different pairs of Vivos and they were all way too long beyond my big toe and the only thing that seemed to change with the sizing differences was the width. I just recieved my first pair of Splay shoes and found they run a bit small but now that I have the size right, They feel pretty good.
When I started wearing barefoot shoes (a couple of styles of Purestep) I stopped wearing socks. When I go for walks, my feet often get wet, but I don't find that a problem unless I'm wearing socks.
I have zeros which have held up well the thin insoles are the most worn after two years which I can replace
I have bought whiten and hobibear from Amazon xero are so expensive for Canadians
Both the cheaper are comfy and seem to hold up well hobibear actually has a cushioned heal
The Vivobarefoot shoes are extremely high quality. I’m at almost a year on one pair and I walk and run in them ALOT.
By contrast I tried a pair of Whitins that fell apart and wore through the bottom in about a month and a half under similar usage as the Vivobarefoot.
Lesson: you get what you pay for.
I agree, I've had some vivos for few years now, and just want to beat them and wear them out (so I can throw them away and get some of the cool new models) but I just can't. Can't seem to be able to wear the sole out, the stitching is holding up.. they just keep going. The lesson for me is just to go and invest into models that I really like cause they will last a long time and will keep making me happy daily
Yeah, Whitins are basically slippers. Casual wear only. They are great for airport travel or for throwing them into some luggage as an extra pair of shoes because they pack flat.
The whitins are great. The wide model is amazing.
Do you have any recommendations for toe spacers?
These are the ones that I use, geni.us/gXGg
However, there are other selections
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Been doing barefoot since they came out, Most are too narrow in toebox (Merrill and New Balance) they also discontinue shoes with great popularity before i can buy again (if i liked that shoe). Zero tends to fall apart before i think they should (both in sole coming off, but side begins looking rough too early). Am trying the Whitn as it is in the price range, that if it comes apart like the zero's do, then i won't be bothered what they cost. I will put the Vivo's on my radar as the shoe you show looks woth checkiing out.
I've put a lot of miles running in Whitin shoes and they are fine. I've even done a few obstacle runs in them. They're my favorite of the three. I like the others, but Whitin fits my feet best.
Great fit! Converts power well with appropriately placed cleats! 10/10 would recommend!
Re the laces, in your video the bow points to the toe rather than the side which means you are tying the bow the wrong way. Start with left lace over right not right over left. The bow will point to the side and your laces are much less likely to come undone. Bizarre I know but it took me fifty years to learn how to tie my laces properly. There are technical knot reasons why this works. Hope this helps.
Would be good to know which lasted the longest. I have some similar to the witins and they are the touches shoes ive ever owned
hello doc. i have a question caused by lack of knowledge on this type of shoes. i am starting to look at barefoot shoes and never owned them. i am now looking for my first pair.
my question is: are this shoes good for overpronation? because i walk really bad and i literally kill every pair of shoes in 2 to 3 months. my heel turns on the inside a lot so it's pretty bad for my walking and my shoes. can overpronation be fixed or at least reduced with barefoot shoes? or is specific insole enough?
thank you for your help
I’m Mexican. Why do I have Greek feet?
Maybe from college when I was in a fraternity?
I wouldn't take it too seriously , it is just a general graph
I actually have pairs of all 3, & they serve different purposes. Whitins, I use for a casual/errand shoe because they look good, AND, have strengthened by feet. The Zeros I bought because they were on sale ($60, discontinued model), & use for the same reason as the Whitins, AND, if I want to go on a longer-than-usual walk. The Vivobarefoot, are my favorites. I have 4 different pairs for various reasons (hiking, work, casual). For some reason, they just do it for me (The Tracker SG model is my favorite). All of them are comfortable (to ME), but the Vivos are the ones I wear the most.
I have never heard of toe spacers. Why/When are they needed?
Con for Vivobarefoot - insole slips out towards heel ... I've had RA and Primus and it was the prob for both.
I have footdrop and spasticity from stroke.
Can these shoes help?
Would love to see a video on strenghting the foot. I want to transition to barefoot but a bit lost in all the advice when it comes to foot and arch strenght
I'll put it on the to do list!
Look up how to do releves and eleves and do then multiple times a day whenever you think about it
*them not then. And be sure to do one foot at a time as well and do really slow ones as well as regular ones. Do slow one foot ones too, that’s how you’ll really build strength once you build up to it a bit. Start with ten in a turned out position with your heels as close together as they get while having straight legs, so like worth about your knees touching rather than your heels if that makes sense
Look up how to releve and eleve, it’s not proper to put the s on because the term is French but the s gets put on by Americans lol
Great information, very comprehensive, thank you!!!!
Going with the Xero (I usually wear Altras)
I love the xero prio's I wear, but they have not held up well at all. The sole is beginning to split off near the ball of my foot and the toe area on both shoes are beginning to split. I wear them all the time. One thing about going to minimalist shoes, you won't be able to stand wearing regular shoes after you've adapted to the minimalist nature of the shoes.
I feel the same way after wearing these shoes for a while. But like you said, the durability is not as good
Same experience on both counts!
@@ForTeamTang
I’m not a sports person, but am on my feet all day. Last year Xero started offering a shoe thought for the service industry, “Prio All Day”. I’m very impressed with their quality. I wear them every work day, and they still look very well.
Thanks for the basketball part! It's a barefoot / minimalist void that needs to be filled. I was considering Whitins and the Xeros for hoops, since I heard 1 or 2 people play in certain Xeros, but maybe I won't now. There's a brand called Joomra which has a shoe almost exactly like those Whitins, but if you look at the back it's a totally different strucure. There's a review video on here where the guy says it feels more like a regular shoe structure in the back while still maintaining the wider toe box, just FYI. I may try those. Thanks for thise review. Super helpful!
Thanks for feedback! Maybe ill take a look at the Joomra when I get a chance.
I use xero 360 for basketball. No problems. It took me about 3 months of training in barefoot shoes to get comfortable with them. Now basketball shoes feel weird haha.
@@harrysidhu4027 To each their own I guess.
@@harrysidhu4027 Thanks for your input. Does it feel restrictive going full court and what's your take about those on outdoor courts? Feel free to share what you did to transition in 3 months. And yes I know what you mean about not being able to go back to hoops shoes.
@@ForTeamTang Hey so I got the Joomras and they legit feel like a hidden gem in terms of full sneaker feel and support with the barefoot shoe benefits. For reference of which exact ones just type in Joomras vs Whitin. The channel is Total Therapy Solution. He has a few videos on them. I tested mine twice now on outdoor courts. It's really grippy traction and is really soft so not sure about outsole durability but after my two sessions no wear down areas at all.
Their toe box is very wide. I'm a size 10.5, got their 10 wide. I still had an inch or two of toe space so could've done 9 wide but I like slight toe room from the front of the shoe. Played one on one, felt no restrictions in basketball movements compared to my some of my cross trainer barefoot shoes. Actually felt more free in them. As for cushioning it's really soft but why it works is because you sink right to ground for excellent ground feel, but with a hint more cushioning feel you would want on concrete. I took my insole out for less cushioning but it's okay with it in. It's not the hottest looking thing lol, but I think they accidentally made a good basketball tennis shoe. Lateral support was great and they have a runners knot for extra lockdown. Any other questions let me know. Or if you found something else that works feel free to share. Thanks!
I use Vibram 5 fingers (training style). Great in the gym and good for runs and trail running (if it's not slick). They are great, but wore holes in the 2nd toe on both shoes after only a few months. Some shoe goo and a dime over the hole helped them last a couple of years. Now I'm shopping again because I have a hole on the ball of the foot.
Vivo Bare looks interesting for running. I love my V Trains so maybe I might keep those old ones for lifting
I have the Whitins and I just came from a 6km run, they're so cool. and 1/4 the price of the Zero Shoes. Maybe someday I get them Vivo or Zero. My Whitins are not loose at all, and I do have a small feet. I dont even lace them up anymore, just stretch and put, they're tight. 6km easily, I've never tried them on the long run 10km+
Update: I bought the Xero HFS New on ebay at a bargain. The difference with Withins. Wider and comfortable wide foot makes a good difference, even when the Whitins fit perfectly too, wit a little minimal 1 or maybe even 2mm midfoot arch sole, perhaps it can be taken off if desired.
My girl asked me to wear Whitins while going out some place cause she likes how they look, unexpected.
I worked 16-18hr days 7 days a week all through covid cleaning and disinfecting for my commercial/industrial cleaning business…I tried multiple types of shoe that did nothing but kill my back legs and feet which then spread to neck/shoulder since I found the whitin brand no more pain and they don’t strip my feet from sweating or otherwise! They are very useful for continuous slip free movement, agility and breathability. Since going barefoot I have no pain and now that things have calmed down to a 10-12hr shift 5 days a week I am running on treadmill with whitin…couldn’t do that before…they are very durable I throw one pair in the washer while I wear a second pair…best shoes I have ever worn and when available I go barefoot completely. A whole new world after years of willpower through chronic pain…barefoot is the way for me and Whitin is my brand!
I wished you had chose a different style of the whitens to try. They have one with more support provided
Which ones did you have in mind, I can always make another video
The vivos can also be resoled which I think is plus
the thing that makes whitin nice is the price on sale there shoes go down to 42 bucks for a pair. Xero can be quite expensive with how often they wear out the soles last but build quaility can be lacking for the price tag of the shoe
I bought xero shoes because someone had mention it help their arch pain and ankle stability. I’ve had them for two years and my arches are higher and my ankles are stronger. So In my experience they do strengthen the feet.
3:30 the ‘ethnic foot shapes’ thing seemed pretty questionable so I searched around a bit. I found charts and descriptions which claim to be the same thing, but swap characteristics around.
I don’t closely match any of the shapes in that diagram & couldn’t find any studies which support a taxonomy like that.
I did not confirm the extent to which the validity of the picture is, however I would like to iterate that the main idea of the diagram is the variability between foot types.
Experimenting the xeros now. But comfort wise for long walks, I still think the old school reebok dmx was the best. It's like walking on clouds. Does that mean the "comfort" softness was bad for me?
What about sizing for women with the Xeros?
Bought a pair of the Whitin Xtra Wide and found they're basically made for narrow feet. I am a "Triple E" in old skool measuring and these were like putting on a pair of Nikes: tight across the 'toe box' that felt like the too-tight shoes I grew up wearing.
Just for the heck of it, looking for something to wear just around the house, I picked up a pair of Sketcher slip-ons and they're wider through the toe box than the Whitins by miles. My big fat Flintstone feet fit comfortably.
Of course, I try to not wear shoes if I can help it and practice picking things up with my toes to keep my feet healthy.
I'm going to stick with the Sketchers.