Ultra-Wide Angle + Fisheye On Budget
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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**Giveaway is now closed**
But feel free to check out the lenses
These lenses are available for the following mounts:
Sony E: amzn.to/34Cpf3o
Fuji X: amzn.to/3nI6of6
Canon EF-M: amzn.to/3aCS2c6
M43: amzn.to/3rlE8kz
Lightroom lens correction profile is not available for the 7Artisans, but you can use the 7.5mm lens profiles from other brands. They worked great for me.
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This presenter has a very clear, useful and cogent style. In 5 minutes, he told me what other sites would have taken 30 minutes to accomplish.
I'm not a fan of fish-eye lenses but you made strong arguments to get one. Can't beat those prices.
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Same! I just bought one for $100 used from K&H, including tax+shipping. Can't beat that!
if this would cost 1500bucks and read canon i would not be fan too.its like cheaper than normal lences LOL
Great comparison between the two. I'm leaning more towards the 7artisans because of the close focusing which can give more interesting compositions even though the samyang has slightly better IQ. Keep up the good work.
Another great option is Fisheye Hemi by Imado! $30 plugin for Lightroom or Photoshop that does a fantastic job defisheye-ing without losing as much field of view. Worth it to get those extreme angles. That 7artisans lens is exactly what I have been looking for, thanks for bringing it to my attention!
I love your opening shot going from barrel to pincushion distortion while zooming. Awesome!
Yes, lens correction in post is powerful, and you can emulate rectilinear from your fish-eye lens. But if you want a rectilinear shot, and you can afford a real rectilinear lens, the shot will certainly end up with higher resolution overall simply because you don't have to crop away so much content to get a rectangular shot.
Also, of course (as you claim), rectilinear lenses stretch content at the edges of the image, and so does a fish-eye lens once you post-process to make the fish-eye shot look rectilinear. The _stretching_ of the edge content is _not_ the reason people don't use fish-eye lenses to get rectilinear shots.
The problem is that when this stretched content comes from a fish-eye lens with post-production lens correction, it gets _blurry_ , because it now takes up many more pixels than the fish-eye lens originally made available for it.
With a rectilinear wide-angle lens, the stretched content at the edges of the shot is _sharp_ because it is given plenty of pixels _in camera_ . A good rectilinear lens certainly stretches things, but it stretches them _before they are digitized_ . Such _analog_ stretching doesn't reduce sharpness (unless the lens itself is flawed somehow).
i don't need this , but really appreciate that the way you tell all of this very quickly and strong thing . love it .
I've literally used the 7artisans 7,5mm Fisheye with distortion correction for shooting real estate content for over two years now. Shot like 50-80 properties with it and the client is always happy :)
Ok, you made me a fan when I saw my old Canon F-1. Fond memories of that camera.
Big boy needs a new lens! But I actually really enjoy your videos. The samples are nice and the way you shoot em is dope
Dope. Right.
Never have i wanted fisheye before i saw this 😍
Hope i can find some where I live for great prices like those
*I found your channel yesterday and I love the recommendation videos you do, they're just so informative.* I'm in college so I know how much of a struggle it is to balance making videos with class - All the best man
Just found out your channel and I gotta say your explanation is brief and crystal clear.
I'm so glad other companies are making fantastic lenses for reasonable prices
you've earned my sub, straight to the point, provided facts and examples. thankyou im buying one this week.
I was wandering If a fisheye can be used as wide-angle for a while so thats exactly the video I was looking for! Plus the excellent content & editing made it even better! I've been watching camera related videos for a long time yet yours is the second channel I found worth subscribing to!
I have the Samyang, great little lens. If I want ultra-wide rectilinear, I use my Laowa 9mm, the point of a fish-eye is the curved perspective, which looks far more pleasing than trying to ‘correct’ it after the fact. What I have done sometimes in photos with strong verticals, or people in shot, is correct the verticals, but keep the curved horizontals, which gives an appearance a bit like an iPhone panorama. In Lightroom, you can use Fisheye Hemi. I don’t use Lightroom though, and like to have more control, so use Hugin.
I like the way 7 artisans lens looks like and its crazy ability to focus 2inches away and still getting the room that 8ball pic is so good. Great video 👌🏻 happy to see some nice lens at great price 😁 peace✌️🏻
Thank you very much. Made so much since. I will buy a fish eye for sure now! Excellent video.
i was on the fence about the 7artisans. but you convinced me its a good addition for some cool creative stuff. thanks!
De-fishing vs. images from a rectilinear lens - yeah, the corner distortion is the same, but if you start out with a rectilinear you will have more true information in the corners. You won't be stretching pixels.
So true, when he said his result turned out great I was speachless. Those corners looked like the photo was printed, and the corners somehow got dipped in the water.
Can I make a completly unrelated comment...?
The way your brain works and how you see creativity and art... as a suggestion (and request) do not only make gear videos. Take Sean Tucker for example... I don't know, just a feeling that I've got hearing your explanations. Lovely channel, I hope you keep uploading.
Damn, I was always so against fisheyes, but you did such a good job with explaining everything that I'm going to go buy one right now haha. Thanks!
I have been searching for an affordable Wide angle lens for ages, thanks!
I am definetely late, but subscribed and liked just because it's a nice review and comparison. Precise and concise. Thanks.
Thank you for the support 😁
This video singlehandedly sold me on the 7artisans, great video!
Do you think a fisheye or a 12mm would be better, since it would require less correction to produce the same subject matter?
Awesome video, thinking of picking up this lens to add a little style to my photography
Loved the video and the opinion about the gear. I can understand your point. I have a 12mm samyang and I agree sometimes I wished for something more extreme.
It's good to help people selecting the lens that can help them the most. You don't need a 12mm on a M4/3 unless you are really into landscapes and architecture and astrophotography.
You can have fun with the distortion so much more.
I was really confused of buying one of wide angle lens from 7artisans. That was a nice review, you just earned a fan! :D
I was checking this lens in morning but I didn't know how it performs thanks to you now I know which is good. Thanks.
Yesterday i was thinking about purchasing wide angle lens.
And today here's your video!!
Tq kai! 😁👍👍
If for APS-C, then this is true, however, for MFT Samyang wins - 0.09m (vs 0.12m on 7artisans) closest focus, except there is only f/3.5.
Greetings from a newbie here.. Found your channel while browsing for 7artisans lens review.. Never thought I could find this informative review, since you even informed us how to crop the edges and make it into good photos...what an informative video. Thanks for sharing...🙏 Keep up the good works..
Great lenses however best ultra wide lens I've ever used back in my Nikon dslr days (which I think may be adapted to Sony e-mount) is the sigma 8-16mm. Definitely an awesome lens that doesn't distort like a fish eye.
I like the close up picture of the eight ball good point
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch, so clean and pro :)
Yo! Thanks for showing how versatile this lens can be. I already own a 7artisans 23mm for my a6000. This will be my next lens.
Thanks for the opportunity, cheers from Argentina
Or save up for a Laowa 7.5mm F/2.0 Rectilinear. 2x brighter for low light and no wasted resolution for video.
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Yeah it costs more than three and a half times more. It should be better. But I guess it makes a lot of sense for MFT, because Laowa made the MFT version faster than their APS-C version (I think it was to compensate for the smaller sensor). They're still not as wide as this de-fishing method I showed. So there's ups and downs.
The lose of resolution is the point. If you don't need high resolution images and your are comfortable with editing your Shots, the fish eye is all right.
To correct that in post in videos is a bigger issue. So for video I would not use a fisheye. Only if I want to have that specific look.
this is just so much quality in this video 👏👏👏👏
super wide lenses do stretch the corners, but its optical, the pixels are unaltered. when you stretch a fisheye in post the corners look like trash. 8mm in crop is 12mm full-frame equivalent (irix do a 11mm that you don't have to ruin your corner pixels to correct) its full-frame though, and costs around £350, (which is still dirt cheap). good vid though, i like the fisheye effect.
There's slight mistake in this review because 7Artisans 7.5mm angle of view is less than 180 degrees according to other comparisons to Rokinon 8mm i've seen.
7Artisans just come up with Mark II version of 7.5mm lens that states wider 190 degree angle of view (so perhaps real number is closer to 180 degree) and could also have other improvements over original, at same price tag.
Oh I wasn't aware of a version 2. Can you share a link for this?
@@JimmiKai www.amazon.com/7artisans-Fisheye-Compatible-X-Pro1-X-Pro2/dp/B08XNH817J?dchild=1&keywords=7artisans+7.5mm+F2.8+II+V2.0&qid=1620203959&s=electronics&sr=1-5&linkCode=sl1&tag=damiabnbrown2-20&linkId=989b86a92a8ab51a4844ee2166b20e6c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div
I recently bought a 16-35 for my mark iii and just got introduced to shooting really wide! I'd love to try a fisheye like this one some day and see what I come up with! :D
Cool video brah
I have a bower 8mm that is the same of samyang. The IQ is superb, loved it. By the price, it worths every penny. The only shit is the minimum focus distance, i cant do a portrait or any close object to get that distorted effect. I would love so much to have this option.
dont know exactly how its affect your focal lenght, but you can experiment with a small extension tube for closer focus.
Sebastian N. I can try, but im going to lose the metering, dont i?
metering should be fine but you lose auto focus if you use a extensiontube without contacts
This is perfect for my studio shooting..i need this
For m43 i am using a pixco 8mm f3.8. Not the brightest lens, but 3.8 it's absolutely great, thinking that a 16-35 f4 from canon is 1000$. Paid NEW only 60$. It has some aberation but easily fixable in LR. It's also quite sharp even fully open. But i mean, sharpness on a lens like this is not the main goal
This is really superb. You make some excellent points! it's a great trick to have up your sleeve
Awesome video! Your images are so creative! I've only been shooting photos for 4 months but I hope to develop and aesthetic as unique as yours. That 7artisans looks so gorgeous 😍
I'm currently using a Samyang 8mm f3.5 using the correction app Imadio to square the image up.
Wow!! Amazed. Thanks for the advice!
Gonna ad one of these to my list
Thank you for sharing this video,.
Simple as is it as you explain all the details of both lens and how it works and edit the photos, that was more cool and share how you make those amazing photos thank you and im looking forward to watch your upcoming video...
Cool video, thanks. I've have many photographers tell me they don't like fisheye because it looks so different. Then they say they are really looking for a way to make their photos different. OK...
I already ave a Sigma 10-20 F 3.5 lens for my Nikon D 7200 , but at THESE prices , I might be tempted to go wider !!
This is one of the most useful videos I've seen, great! You've helped me a lot, thanks!! 👍👍
Awesome Review man ! First vids to watch but i always satisfied and subbed your channel
For me the downside of fisheyes - and some ultrawides too - is difficulty fitting filters.
That F1 doe :)
Very helpful vid! How can I achieve video stabilization with this setup? I’ve been considering buying this lens as a travel lens for vlogging and as my first upgrade from the kit lens.Thank you.
Samyang & 7 Artisans Lens could have been mentioned in the video title right ?
just what I was looking for holy crap, thanks man!
what profile correction did you use for the 7artisans lens?
May have to add a fisheye lens to the list.
Nice Detailed Video, Love the effort
Got the 7.5mm 7artisan, very cool !
Glad i came across your video, it cleared so much for me
this is such a good video. thanks!
Really good comparison. I live in a mountainous country so i really need those fish eye lens. I always wanted sigma 8-16mm lens but its too expensive. I would love to have those lens..but don't worry about shipping , I have my uncle at New York and u can send it to him...peace.
cool lenses, love shooting wide, may need to consider a fish-eye now!
Great video Jimmi-Kai just ordered one. Well a "RISESPRAY 7.5mm F2.8 APS-C Wide Angle Manual Focus Fish Eye Lens" which looks like the 7Artisans
This really is a great video. I really like the intelligence behind it.
Only 'critical' thought: if you distort and (more importantly) crop a fisheye photo, why not shoot with a lens that has more milimeters?
Thanks for watching! The answer to that question would be price. It's really hard to find a good ultra-wide lenses at the price of fisheye lenses.
@@JimmiKai anyway thanks. You are by far the most intelligent voice out there on this subject. Its really a pleasure to watch.
Do you have one on editing? Because what you did there was very impressive.
Hi. You can also use the enable profile corrections for 7artisans? I will by one and i really want to know this. Thanks
is it possible to use an ND/UV filter with the 7 artisans lens? Does it have filter threads at all?
Now I need to rethink about buying this 7artisans 7.5mm
Fantastic video!
Made me actually want to get a fisheye lens (as I don't really like the fisheye look itself)!
Hey, nice Bayshore shot at 40"!
I have a tokina 11-16 f2.8 love that lense.
I wish they had nikon mounts. They have a $80 f1.8 25mm lens I'd really look into if it were compatible with my D5100
That is one pimped-out F-1! Wish me luck on winning one of those lenses! I'd have to go with the Samyang, because of the quality difference.
Great video. I’ve been wanting to get a fisheye lens for some time now. Now I just have to decide which one to get. 🤙🏻
ok, i got this video in reddit and i thought of another shameless promotion but you sir got a new subscriber!
It's what I do best, shameless promotions 😂
But hey, all backed up by facts ;)
Jimmi-Kai I'm glad dude! Hope to see more
Who are the seven artisans, “Seven Samurai”? 🤪
I wonder how the 7.5MM compares with a Laowa 7.5MM f/2.0 field of view after the de-fish process?
7 Artisans - $139. Laowa - $499 (or $519 if you want the lighter one that can be used on a DJI Inspire). You lose a lot of info when you fix it because it is essentially cropping the original pic. For posting on social media, no big deal. For making Air BnB ads, you can still get away with it. For shooting magazine editorials, be a pro and spend the extra $$$ and write it off as a capital expenditure.
Its a great video ..... came to know the importance of the fish eye lens
Can I attach this lens to a Canon DSLR EOS 60D? If not, what can I do with it? Should I buy a lens mount adapter?
I'm about to purchase that 7artisans 7.5 lens. So excited!
Hi! Very nice review. You have mentioned that both of them can be found with MFT mount. However I can't find the 8mm one with that mount. Also, are they different projections resulting in different shapes of image on edges? (I guess they are different as with different focal lengths they provide same AoV). I am wondering if I obtain significantly smaller AoV with 8mm Samyang than with 7.5mm Risepray?
The problem of the defishing method is that you strech pixels instead of glass.(Digital stretching < Optical stretching) You can definitely achieve great results as you demonstrated, but you lose some quality in progress. Anyway thanks for making this vid, maybe I should try to do more with my fisheye.
Cheers
As stated in the video, "you can always crop out the over-stretched parts" because the angle of view is much wider than a standard ultra-wide angle lens.
Using the stretched pixel argument, the center of the photo actually has greater pixel density, so does that mean I gain some quality in the progress? haha Cheers
Great review on the lenses, thanks for sharing the info!
Jimmi-Kai which lens a keeper for you among the two?
Its so awesome how many people were interested on that kind of video. And you explained it perfectly!!
I bought the samyang. I film video mostly, how can i correct that in lightroom?
Awesome upload with compelling stuff!!
I was perfectly content with my lens setup until I saw this video. My wife will probably send you a bad email later on, and you'll know why.
Was that the Rideau centre and the national art gallery in Ottawa?
Thank you for the great video and commentary
Thanks for the video!
BTW is the slide at 3:59 wrong?
12mm should be equivalent to 73° horizontal FOV and 10mm to 82.4°
It looks like you're from Ottawa. Some of the footage was from the NAC on Elgin. That's awsome.
Never really considered fish-eye lenses , but this vid just blew my mind. is the rectilinear conversion also possible when shooting video ?
Aidin did it for video, and it looks really good!
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could you let me know how do you make your picture style?
its so soft, fancy, stylish and also ultimately those colors seems like perfectly balanced!
i like it so much
so i really really want to know how to do it..
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I might do a video on this later, but for a simple solution, check out a software called Nik
YOUR DOING GREAT MAN I GOTTA GET ONE OF THEM