What about Police Academy? They may be undertrained and overweight, but they are lovable, a laugh riot, and they always get their man... or woman... or...
The prologue used the year 6041 (presumably in the Gregorian calender) as a reference, then came the Butlerian Jihad, then the Guilds and then the events of Dune 4000 years after that. The third stage guild navigator is himself 4000 years old.
The title screen with the word "Prologue" just looks so retro, like an epic Biblical movie from the 50s or 60s. In fact the paintings also have that retro feel.
something to point out is when the narrator at 3:06 refers to "pure mathematics" he does not mean the Guild studies only mathematics such as trigonometry and calculus. Pure Mathematics is a branch of mathematics that studies entirely abstract concepts and is extremely advanced
And..the navigators do NOT fold space, the holtzmann engines do, they NAVIGATE the ship to avoid accidents. Constantly I see or hear comments sayinhg they fold the ship, they do not...as the name implies, they navigate it. Hence in the follow on books, computers do the work.
I worked in a movie theater when Dune first came out. The movie was so confusing to the audiences that people were walking out of the shows. The studio had us start handing out fliers to the people entering the theater that explained what the concepts were and what the different names meant. I enjoyed the movie, but when you have to go to all this trouble to explain to viewers what is happening, that is a sign that the movie failed to tell a coherent story.
@@IPEsometimes Yeah, they should’ve bought a copy of Dune from a local library, read a few pages, then watch the movie. Frank Herbert’s Dune history is too complicated to be explained into a short movie prologue.
I love this extended intro so much. I first seen it as a child on vacation at the beach with my family I was a huge DUNE fan and this was coming on the TV and when it did this intro came on I was floored. This was way before the internet days. David Lynch shouldn't be ashamed of this film it holds up really good even better today.
@@AudioAndroid I think some of this scene was reminiscent of Marshall McLuhan's predictions, like the Mechanical Bride. There seem to be a theosophist interface with technology which is headed toward an AI connection reminiscent of The Matrix and The Terminator. I suppose I could invoke Jean Baudrillard's 1981 book Simulacra and Simulation too. It was not merely a prop in The Matrix but was the main inspiration for the movies and was required reading for the whole cast.
I agree. David Lynch could do only so much back in the day. And what he was able to do in 2+ hours was a testament, albeit so much was lost. Hence when the 5 hours TV movie came on only once with this prologue I watched it meticulously.
@chrisstetsko5020 He really is a pioneer in the film industry. I searched for that version I watched at the beach, but no one knew anything about it, so to me, it was lost media alongside another film called "Fantastic Planet." Thanks to RUclips, I was finally able to not only watch it but understand why it exists and connect with other fans of the film and genre. Those matte paintings used during the Spacing Guilds' arrival blew my mind. I couldn't figure out how they did it until much later. I haven't seen the new DUNE Part 2 Movie as of yet, but I loved Part 1. How do you like the new version?
I don't know why people hated on this movie. I adored it the moment it came out in film (I was 10). I still love it as an escape now! Of course, I'm a Sting fan too, and Max von Sydow as well.
I agree! I saw the theatrical release first. Then the expanded version which was much better, and then I read the books, which was incredible. The movie was like a tiny cliff's notes version of the book's richness. It's like the TV show Game of Thrones vs the ASOIAF series. Books are always better.
Cyberdial He meant that there are no intelligent races that are extraterrestrial in origin. Everything constructed and crafted in the universe is of human origin, even if made by thinking-machines or mutants like the Tleilaxu, Guild or God-Emperor.
So happy to find this! I loved this opening. When I first saw Dune in theaters, I was stationed in Germany. This was the opening. I could never understand why it was replaced.
Choam might not be an IPO, but instead a series of mergers. The key would be getting into the start of the Spice harvesting, or investing in the company that builds the Spacing Guild Heighliners
i had a very similar recollection. I was 12 yrs old in our living room in a new home in indiana. summertime. front door was open, sun beaming through. can still visualize the whole setting almost 30 yrs later. it was on network television - i had rented the video of the movie without this intro and was reading the book so this prologue resonated with me. the magic of youtube to find it again! and all the deleted scenes i've found on here too. cheers mate.
David Lynch wanted to fix it, but received such backlash about his final version. So, he passed on this TV version and didn't even want his name on it.
@@JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg No. Plotting the course for a space fold requires a degree of prescience that only Navigators could achieve through their use of spice.
Honestly, I will be very interested in seeing how the remake goes. When this came out in the 80s, especially on cable when you could watch it over and over again for free, it grew on me as an amazing film. Nothing else was out like it at the time. I am not sure if that success in time can be duplicated. I would be eager to found out though.
Really? THen I guess you must be a big fan of the Blade Runner US theatrical cut with its stupid voice over. I call these version the stupid cuts. For idiots who need it all on a plate to understand. I guess you're such and idiot.
Yes friend that is right The Bene Gesserit sisterhood founded by Raquella Berto-Anirul. The Suk medical school founded by Dr Mohandas Suk. The Mentat School founded by Gilbertus Albans. The Spacing Guild founded by Adrien Venport. And there is one more: The Swordmasters of Ginaz, founded by Jool Noret and his students.
I think they're forgetting about the *Suk School*, which trains doctors like Yueh. There are also the *Mentat* training schools. These are two other ancient training schools besides the Bene Gesserit and the Spacing Guild.
+Emanresuadeen Mental school not Doctor school. Suk are just highly conditioned doctors not trained in psionics which is what Frank Herbert the narrator of this is implying. Mentat came much later.
toomanyaccounts the Suk School of Medicine was also a byproduct of the Butlerian Jihad and the only one besides Ix that championed technology albeit non thinking medical tech.
Don't forget the *Ginaz Swordmasters*, established during the Jihad and maintained until shortly before the Atreides' took Arrakis. The last great swordmaster of note to be trained at the Ginaz school was none other than Duncan Idaho, who was _kind of a big deal_ ;-)
I had this on vhs from video taping it off tv as well as the "official" vhs of movie. I always loved this intro. If for no other reason it sets up the VERY complicated DUNE universe for the uninitiated.
We need mental training schools right now. Nobody can even remember more than four phone numbers thanks to the contact lists on our cell phones. Eyesight is diminishing thanks to constant screen time.
Most people are just too lazy. And for those who aren't, there's the internet where you can find places where like-minded people have set up 'schools' of their own.
Lynch never got final edit, and the ending was not what he planned, but its still a masterful work. My appreciation only grows as the years go by, and now that Dune part 2 has been released Lynch is a magician.
If Hyperspace travel existed I could see how an organization would want to have an monopoly on it, would make them very powerful. Plus, sounds like the something you’d want to be tightly regulated.
Well the problem in the Dune universe is it is tightly regulated. By an organization with malicious intent. This problem doesn't get solve until space travel becomes free and open, with the invention of No-Ships
I'm unsure exactly why. But the big sign that says THE SPACING GUILD on the front of the Spacing Guild building makes me laugh. So these guys can navigate their asses across the galaxy but they need reminding which office is theirs??
I attended a star trek convention and purchased the Japan release of the movie that included this prologue. As a fan of Herbert I was happy to find this added bonus to the movie. I am glad this was posted and have added this clip to my favorites .. Thanks
This is really good, its insightful, it needed this in the actual movie cause if you've never read the novel you wouldnt know exactly whats going on in the movie fully.
No tengo la posibilidad de leer los libros de Dune, pero si la tuviese créanme que me los leería, la historia la conocí por la miniserie, y me encantó. Y este prólogo me fascinó.
Well I will not say that this extended version is my preferred version, it is the one that actually help me understand what was going on when I caught it in syndication. Doing was a movie I watched when I was too young and didn’t get much out of it. At least this gave me an idea of what everything meant.
I'd only seen the original version and I kept thinking I didn't remember this or the narration and certain scenes were so edited they didn't even make sense.
I've been a fan of the theatrical cut of Dune for quite some time, but recently saw this extended cut and it brought a whole new dimension of enjoyment to the viewing experience. Shame that Lynch has disowned this version.
I tried to figure out why the TV version (seen on an independent TV network in 1985,Fox ,universal . I know the big three would not touch this film ) why the director did the Allen Symthie this thing. Which is a way to put a. Directors name to a movie but not the original director. I personally liked the long TV version. It was as close to book 1 as this production. The theater version was a very distorted version of fine. David L blew it .he had the equivalent of 4 ,2 hour movies worth of film shot. Then another 2 hours of great FX ,i am not sure how muck sub par FX gmwas in the cans. 45 million back in 1982-84 was a lot of money for the time. I just am but sure we're the fight started. DL wanting complete control over the finial cut .a short version for theater,a long version for the new king of video VHS. But there could have been a decent 5 -6 mini series with all the footage shot. Even the 3.5 TV version is the best as it follows the book except for the sound weapon . I loved the first 3 books of Dune. I wish a company would figure out how to follow all three books in a great FX. Style mini seris
Lunch disowned it because he’s a director that likes to tightly control his films. Dude has tried to put the kibosh on home video releases over not being consulted on them. I’m not saying he’s wrong or right (though I think he can be a real pain in the ass about it). Dune TV edit had none of his involvement and in this case, the studio went in and added things like the prologue to make the film more comprehensible. Lynch is a little more justified in his attitude here since there’s heavy alteration going on.
I always liked the extended version so much better then the original. I also really liked some of the little changes they made in certain scenes, especially in that first scene with the Emperor meeting with the third stage guild navigator. They also added a few subtle audio effects that were good, such as I like how they altered the voice of the Guild Navigator, making him sound much more authoritative and intimidating.
I always preferred the version they only showed on TV that had all the extended/deleted scenes, but they would edit it for TV at the same time, so I never really got to see a "complete" version. I saw the Sci-Fi version and didn't care for it. THIS was the Dune I liked.
Loved that quote from the intro, "human beings were forced to develop their minds" - imagine that, instead of letting the computers or internet do it , LOL, "we don't need no education", right?
Thank you I feel like this is a good sort of side primer for getting into Dune, you despite some irregularities compared with the source material of the books. The movie though the 2021 version epic minimalism at its finest if that makes sense.
Yes but you have to take into account that people who have never read or heard of Dune will be unguided through the journey of the story. This movie is overall a meh, but I was very entertained by it.
Maybe TOO subtle! So subtle tgat those who have never read the book might find it confusing. I am not in a position to make that judgement, since I've read it at least 15-20 times.
The newer movie may be more subtle, but that's only because they gloss over and don't address a ton of detail that was in the books and this older movie. If all you saw was the new movie, you saw the Cliff's Notes of the story; which mind you isn't necessarily bad if deep sci-fi isn't your thing, but Dune is deep sci-fi. The older movie was admittedly a bit too ephemeral, but it packed a lot more substance into it.
That is perhaps the longest intro speech i have ever heard. Like = "Anyway, now that we've' explained everything we will be back next week with the actual fuking show."
I was a punk kid back when the movie was released. Ever since then it's been in my top 10 movies. I wasn't even aware of the novels before seeing the movie. Soon afterwards I found a paperback box set of the first four books. Of course it's my fav sci-fi series... I never went beyond Chapterhouse. I've always wanted to see a Lynch adaptation of God Emperor.
One of these schools, The BENE GESSERIT, is developed primarily for female students. Now, the other existing school.. The Spacing Guild, or the Guild.. it is through the Guild's monopolies on the economic life of the universe, that makes it so powerful. .. with the Guild and the Bene Gesserit as silent partners.. this combine is the key to the wealth and political power of the universe. (IX and Tleilaxu aside)
Lynch isn't "ashamed" of Dune in either incarnation, just displeased with the "extended edition." Universal created it for TV in 1988 (and aired it in the syndicated "Universal Debut Network" series) by restoring 45 minutes' worth of deleted material to the film -- without Lynch's participation or approval. He has never singled out the prologue as the problem; it's the extended edition of the film itself he takes issue with, primarily because his final vision was the 1984 theatrical release.
Man thanks for your comment I thought I was crazy back in the days until youtube I never seen this intro other then that one day at the beach I bet we were watching the same broadcast thats wild.
We really need a Dune Reboot done right, this is a FAR better universe then Star Wars could ever be and sooooo much ore content. Lynch did what he could but cramming 2-3 movies worth of content into one was admirable. The Sci-Fi channel remakes were not well done and super cheesy and boring. I would have loved to seen what Jordowsky's version would have done for the books if he was to have completed it. Dune by far is one of my favorite Sci-Fi conversational pieces as well series.
Jodorowsky never read the book so... make a guess. He got only crazy ideas (some of them quite interesting like Harkonnen palace for example).I mean I don´t mind if its not like in the book.Thats why I enjoy Lynch´s movie as well but I think people that want to see the movie closest to book would be furious after seeing Jodorowsky´s version...
Dune and its offspring are more for thinking sci-fi fans, whereas Star Wars is enough of a cartoon with simple plots that was conceived as a movie(s), whereas a book can be more philosophical and expansive for mind's and imagination.
They left out 3 other schools: The Ginaz Swordmaster School, founded by the followers of Jool Noret;the Suk Medical School,founded by Dr Mohandas Suk,and the Mentat School, founded by Gilbertus Albans,human son of Erasmus the Robot.
Those books are pretty much written from the notes that Frank Herbert left on Disk. I can understand that some people dislike them. If the choice was mine I would have preferred that Frank Herbert finished the series. Sadly his death occurred preventing that occurrence. Brian and Kevin both try to do a good job at the writing and I think they did well given the fact they aren't Frank.
"Two great schools....the....Bene Gesserit and the spacing guild"
Mentat get no respect
And apparently neither does the Suk medical school.
@@mikegallant811 Nice response! Love them too, The B'Gee's get too much time in the spotlight~!
@@mikegallant811 Or the Bene Tleilax
@@ElBombastico883 what about the Ginaz Swordmaster Academy!
What about Police Academy? They may be undertrained and overweight, but they are lovable, a laugh riot, and they always get their man... or woman... or...
Just to let everyone know: When the narrator say the year 10192 he means 10192 AG (after Guild) which would translate to roughly 23,352 AD
Basically, it's way, way, waaaay, into the future!
By then they ought to travel the universe in the ludacris speed.
Ha! So this could still take place in the Warhammer 40,000 Universe!
@@sangkang6294 Why do you think they need the guild for?
The prologue used the year 6041 (presumably in the Gregorian calender) as a reference, then came the Butlerian Jihad, then the Guilds and then the events of Dune 4000 years after that. The third stage guild navigator is himself 4000 years old.
Gotta love the giant SPACING GUILD sign above the door
So citizens do not mistake it for the "Ministry of Motor Vehicles"
The title screen with the word "Prologue" just looks so retro, like an epic Biblical movie from the 50s or 60s. In fact the paintings also have that retro feel.
This kicks ass. Period.
"The people deteriorated into a state of apathy." Already happened...
tommyt1971 Trump will be gone soon.
@@mangoglounge7977 Keep dreaming pumpkin.
Ok, boomer
Trump is the Baron.
the interesting line is "then they became slaves of other men with (thinking) machines", aka "social media"
something to point out is when the narrator at 3:06 refers to "pure mathematics" he does not mean the Guild studies only mathematics such as trigonometry and calculus. Pure Mathematics is a branch of mathematics that studies entirely abstract concepts and is extremely advanced
And..the navigators do NOT fold space, the holtzmann engines do, they NAVIGATE the ship to avoid accidents. Constantly I see or hear comments sayinhg they fold the ship, they do not...as the name implies, they navigate it. Hence in the follow on books, computers do the work.
True, taught them.
The Spicediver fan edit very cleverly incorporates these animated bits into Paul's lesson spools.
I worked in a movie theater when Dune first came out. The movie was so confusing to the audiences that people were walking out of the shows. The studio had us start handing out fliers to the people entering the theater that explained what the concepts were and what the different names meant. I enjoyed the movie, but when you have to go to all this trouble to explain to viewers what is happening, that is a sign that the movie failed to tell a coherent story.
Or that people were just stupid, lol.
@@IPEsometimes Yeah, they should’ve bought a copy of Dune from a local library, read a few pages, then watch the movie. Frank Herbert’s Dune history
is too complicated to be explained into a short movie prologue.
You should understand that Dune is an incredibly complex novels with countless elements. It would be hard to explain it all in one movie.
Movie was fine if you'd read the books, as long as you were willing to live with the.....creative liberties....taken by the director.
Dune isn't for everyone, despite there being universal themes within the tale.
It's really amazing that Frank Herbert somehow managed to sound like a totally different person when he recorded this intro.
Was this Frank Herbert? Because I highly doubt it was
@@theumbrellacorporation1523 It sounds more like the narrator for the Mormon Jesus documentary.
The narrator was an actor named William Phipps, not Frank Herbert.
@@robertplissken4825 I know, I was being facetious.
@@twinpeaksfan929 It was a joke within the joke
I love this extended intro so much. I first seen it as a child on vacation at the beach with my family I was a huge DUNE fan and this was coming on the TV and when it did this intro came on I was floored. This was way before the internet days. David Lynch shouldn't be ashamed of this film it holds up really good even better today.
Exactly. I remember seeing this as a kid and it blessed my mind to think of the future!
@dalelerette206 Awesome Words indeed it was a blessing of the mind what a great film.
@@AudioAndroid I think some of this scene was reminiscent of Marshall McLuhan's predictions, like the Mechanical Bride. There seem to be a theosophist interface with technology which is headed toward an AI connection reminiscent of The Matrix and The Terminator. I suppose I could invoke Jean Baudrillard's 1981 book Simulacra and Simulation too. It was not merely a prop in The Matrix but was the main inspiration for the movies and was required reading for the whole cast.
I agree. David Lynch could do only so much back in the day. And what he was able to do in 2+ hours was a testament, albeit so much was lost.
Hence when the 5 hours TV movie came on only once with this prologue I watched it meticulously.
@chrisstetsko5020 He really is a pioneer in the film industry. I searched for that version I watched at the beach, but no one knew anything about it, so to me, it was lost media alongside another film called "Fantastic Planet." Thanks to RUclips, I was finally able to not only watch it but understand why it exists and connect with other fans of the film and genre. Those matte paintings used during the Spacing Guilds' arrival blew my mind. I couldn't figure out how they did it until much later. I haven't seen the new DUNE Part 2 Movie as of yet, but I loved Part 1. How do you like the new version?
I don't know why people hated on this movie. I adored it the moment it came out in film (I was 10). I still love it as an escape now! Of course, I'm a Sting fan too, and Max von Sydow as well.
the movie is pretty bad. It also goes out of its way to gross you out at every turn.
I was not into going to the movies at the time, but I regret not seen it in the big screen now.
Just the Baron Harkonen scenes to show how nasty he was...and Rabban eating, which was foul.
The TV miniseries was better and fleshed out the plot and characters better. The Trilogy was just too much to put into one 2 hour movie.
I agree! I saw the theatrical release first. Then the expanded version which was much better, and then I read the books, which was incredible. The movie was like a tiny cliff's notes version of the book's richness. It's like the TV show Game of Thrones vs the ASOIAF series. Books are always better.
No Aliens in Dune....just jacked up mutated Humans.....
Cyberdial
He meant that there are no intelligent races that are extraterrestrial in origin. Everything constructed and crafted in the universe is of human origin, even if made by thinking-machines or mutants like the Tleilaxu, Guild or God-Emperor.
Sandworms
@@ka-powUSA They meant intelligent alien races
That's why this science-fiction universe is one of the best. Because they make evolve humanity in more interesting ways.
When ever I see "Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV" this narrator's voice is the voice I read it in.
sorry Hanz but i loved this prologue music score, its nostalgic and warm to the human condition
I'm expecting Lord Helmet to pop up at the end and say "Everybody got that?"
haha. Funny.
LOL
Dark Helmet
I would've liked that.
So happy to find this! I loved this opening. When I first saw Dune in theaters, I was stationed in Germany. This was the opening. I could never understand why it was replaced.
I dig the narrator.
Need to get in on the Choam Company IPO.
Choam might not be an IPO, but instead a series of mergers. The key would be getting into the start of the Spice harvesting, or investing in the company that builds the Spacing Guild Heighliners
i had a very similar recollection. I was 12 yrs old in our living room in a new home in indiana. summertime. front door was open, sun beaming through. can still visualize the whole setting almost 30 yrs later. it was on network television - i had rented the video of the movie without this intro and was reading the book so this prologue resonated with me. the magic of youtube to find it again! and all the deleted scenes i've found on here too. cheers mate.
I always thought this was a better opening.
Pfffft
I did too!
David Lynch wanted to fix it, but received such backlash about his final version. So, he passed on this TV version and didn't even want his name on it.
To complex for people who just want to watch a film
@@clamshell6863wait this was the tv version? I thought this was just an extended cut?
Whoever made this deserves an oscar+
The same mistake all over again...The navigators do not fold space..the Holtzman generator folds space.. The Navigators plot the course.....
ok pointdexter
well, if that is so, wouldn’t anybody be able to plot the course?
Another reason this version is .... less than stellar.
Right! But not anyone has read all the books.
@@JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg No. Plotting the course for a space fold requires a degree of prescience that only Navigators could achieve through their use of spice.
An animated version of dune might be an interesting idea
ruclips.net/video/NBUjGFMhuDg/видео.html
Love those artworks.
Honestly, I will be very interested in seeing how the remake goes. When this came out in the 80s, especially on cable when you could watch it over and over again for free, it grew on me as an amazing film. Nothing else was out like it at the time. I am not sure if that success in time can be duplicated. I would be eager to found out though.
Despite hearing mixed opinions about it for years, I still think this is probably the best prologue/intro to any movie ever...
I love the original Battlestar Galactica one though.
Really? THen I guess you must be a big fan of the Blade Runner US theatrical cut with its stupid voice over. I call these version the stupid cuts. For idiots who need it all on a plate to understand. I guess you're such and idiot.
Fly Beep - That'd be a really sick burn if you had used proper grammar and capitalization to insult another's intelligence.
But... ya didn't.
SJZ
@@flybeep1661 .... "I guess you're such and idiot." .... Hahahahah, Biggest FAIL on youtube!!
@@flybeep1661 Wow, jerk.
There are four ancient guilds:
The Bene geserit witches
The Suk medical school
The Mentat human computers
The Spacey boys
Yes friend that is right
The Bene Gesserit sisterhood founded by Raquella Berto-Anirul.
The Suk medical school founded by Dr Mohandas Suk.
The Mentat School founded by Gilbertus Albans.
The Spacing Guild founded by Adrien Venport.
And there is one more: The Swordmasters of Ginaz, founded by Jool Noret and his students.
Where do Bene Tleilaxu and the Ixians fit in?
Perfect intro that explains a lot . It should be at the beginning always
I doubt the human race will live to see that year. If we go another century it be a miracle.
They say this all the time lmao, you don’t know the future.
Well this sounds sounds more dark than Virginia Madsen talking
I think they're forgetting about the *Suk School*, which trains doctors like Yueh. There are also the *Mentat* training schools. These are two other ancient training schools besides the Bene Gesserit and the Spacing Guild.
+Emanresuadeen Mental school not Doctor school. Suk are just highly conditioned doctors not trained in psionics which is what Frank Herbert the narrator of this is implying. Mentat came much later.
toomanyaccounts the Suk School of Medicine was also a byproduct of the Butlerian Jihad and the only one besides Ix that championed technology albeit non thinking medical tech.
Don't forget the *Ginaz Swordmasters*, established during the Jihad and maintained until shortly before the Atreides' took Arrakis. The last great swordmaster of note to be trained at the Ginaz school was none other than Duncan Idaho, who was _kind of a big deal_ ;-)
GO DUNCAN!
with a purpose they simplified it, otherwise the movie would be way too long
the book is far more detailed, and you learn everything in the dune universe by looking at the glossary!
I had this on vhs from video taping it off tv as well as the "official" vhs of movie. I always loved this intro.
If for no other reason it sets up the VERY complicated DUNE universe for the uninitiated.
We need mental training schools right now. Nobody can even remember more than four phone numbers thanks to the contact lists on our cell phones. Eyesight is diminishing thanks to constant screen time.
MondoBeno -- we had but has been destroyed.
Most people are just too lazy. And for those who aren't, there's the internet where you can find places where like-minded people have set up 'schools' of their own.
People can't even remember their gender.
My childhood.
It's a pain that you can't find the extended edition of the movie.
I got a metal box set with the theatrical and the "Alan Smithee/Judas Booth" extended version.
@@caronstout354 You should upload it somewhere.
@@caronstout354 digitize it!
@@caronstout354what's the alan/judas version?
The 1984 dune may have some flaws but at least it honored Frank Herbert’s original Butlerian jihad and not what Brian Herbert made
It's sad to think that the machine rule was actually the Golden Age of Humanity.
But like, not really though. There's even two golden ages in the first Dune four book of the saga and both under human rule
Human rule leads to corruption, so it may take an objective AI to rule us some day.
@@katakesh8566 But it was a Golden Age, in fact, it was so perfect that humans didn't like it 'cause life had no strife of any kind
Lynch never got final edit, and the ending was not what he planned, but its still a masterful work. My appreciation only grows as the years go by, and now that Dune part 2 has been released Lynch is a magician.
Study the Occult, Illuminati, Freemasonry, etc. his Prologue ain't fiction
Pugs in space
If Hyperspace travel existed I could see how an organization would want to have an monopoly on it, would make them very powerful. Plus, sounds like the something you’d want to be tightly regulated.
Well the problem in the Dune universe is it is tightly regulated. By an organization with malicious intent. This problem doesn't get solve until space travel becomes free and open, with the invention of No-Ships
I'm unsure exactly why. But the big sign that says THE SPACING GUILD on the front of the Spacing Guild building makes me laugh. So these guys can navigate their asses across the galaxy but they need reminding which office is theirs??
Even after ALL these years I like this - Thanks for sharing it with us and Godspeed!
When I uploaded this video, I did not know I would have so many followers.
Hugs to all. :)
It's a delightful intro to an amazing world, and made me want to read the book. Thanks for the share mate.
What is the technical name of the version with the male narrator? Is it available for purchase somewhere? I’m struggling to find it.
One day, another dimension... that's why I love the Herbert's book. One of the best interpretations in fiction in our history.
I attended a star trek convention and purchased the Japan release of the movie that included this prologue. As a fan of Herbert I was happy to find this added bonus to the movie. I am glad this was posted and have added this clip to my
favorites .. Thanks
And ironically A.I. is doing now what the machines and robots did
I'm wondering if in the future I'll be pondering my past and asking myself where did life go so fast?
I saw this when I was like 8 or 10 and now no movie can make me feel Like this one did. Such a Surreal movie.
Thanks for posting this. :) I think I've only seen this version of the opening once in re-broadcast!
This is really good, its insightful, it needed this in the actual movie cause if you've never read the novel you wouldnt know exactly whats going on in the movie fully.
No tengo la posibilidad de leer los libros de Dune, pero si la tuviese créanme que me los leería, la historia la conocí por la miniserie, y me encantó. Y este prólogo me fascinó.
Thanks for posting!
I've never seen a version without this intro.
Well I will not say that this extended version is my preferred version, it is the one that actually help me understand what was going on when I caught it in syndication. Doing was a movie I watched when I was too young and didn’t get much out of it. At least this gave me an idea of what everything meant.
The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The spice is the SHIT.
Nice work up for the non-scifi folks in the 80's. Probably did not do much for those who ignored the books. But, 8/10 for effort.
Watching Dune on BBC America and I thought I remembered an alternate intro.Thanks for the post!
I'd only seen the original version and I kept thinking I didn't remember this or the narration and certain scenes were so edited they didn't even make sense.
+MsSardonicus It a extended cut of the film.
I've been wanting to see this opening. It's not on the DVD I have. When I first saw Dune, it was on TV and this opening was used. Thanks.
I've been a fan of the theatrical cut of Dune for quite some time, but recently saw this extended cut and it brought a whole new dimension of enjoyment to the viewing experience. Shame that Lynch has disowned this version.
I tried to figure out why the TV version (seen on an independent TV network in 1985,Fox ,universal . I know the big three would not touch this film ) why the director did the Allen Symthie this thing. Which is a way to put a. Directors name to a movie but not the original director. I personally liked the long TV version. It was as close to book 1 as this production. The theater version was a very distorted version of fine. David L blew it .he had the equivalent of 4 ,2 hour movies worth of film shot. Then another 2 hours of great FX ,i am not sure how muck sub par FX gmwas in the cans. 45 million back in 1982-84 was a lot of money for the time. I just am but sure we're the fight started. DL wanting complete control over the finial cut .a short version for theater,a long version for the new king of video VHS. But there could have been a decent 5 -6 mini series with all the footage shot. Even the 3.5 TV version is the best as it follows the book except for the sound weapon . I loved the first 3 books of Dune. I wish a company would figure out how to follow all three books in a great FX. Style mini seris
Is this prelude on the extended bluray?
Lunch disowned it because he’s a director that likes to tightly control his films. Dude has tried to put the kibosh on home video releases over not being consulted on them. I’m not saying he’s wrong or right (though I think he can be a real pain in the ass about it).
Dune TV edit had none of his involvement and in this case, the studio went in and added things like the prologue to make the film more comprehensible. Lynch is a little more justified in his attitude here since there’s heavy alteration going on.
I would willingly put down cash money for a Lynch Directors Cut of Dune.
I like how the revolt against artificially intelligent machines was primarily fought with sticks. And these sticks defeated the robots.
[Terminator 2 main theme plays in background]
😎😄
Obviously, this is symbolic art....
Also, the butlerian jihad was originally supposed to be humans fighting against humans who use machines.
The Machines look awesome. They should make a practical movie exploring the time when Humans and Machines fought.
I’ve just folded space from Ix. The spice must flow!
Wait for Dune Messiah. Hugs Daniel
The spice melange does not fold space but allows the navigators to calculate astrogation and sense problems along the path with a limited prescience.
I always liked the extended version so much better then the original.
I also really liked some of the little changes they made in certain scenes, especially in that first scene with the Emperor meeting with the third stage guild navigator. They also added a few subtle audio effects that were good, such as I like how they altered the voice of the Guild Navigator, making him sound much more authoritative and intimidating.
Tif they combined the theatrical and the tv extension this would be grand. Love Virginia Madsen’s intro and the narrator’s prologue.
[..] Love Virginia Madsen [..]
I always preferred the version they only showed on TV that had all the extended/deleted scenes, but they would edit it for TV at the same time, so I never really got to see a "complete" version. I saw the Sci-Fi version and didn't care for it. THIS was the Dune I liked.
I don't know whether it came before or after the making of this prologue, but there was a pop-up book that I'm sure used some of the art shown here...
LOVE THIS!
Loved that quote from the intro, "human beings were forced to develop their minds" - imagine that, instead of letting the computers or internet do it , LOL, "we don't need no education", right?
Yeah, most apocalyptic movie ever....right? and still better scenario than Idiocracy....
Watched this 3times now.but alot has been missed out. theres more than 3 schools.but very good job on this.👍
Seven strait minutes of exposition... wow. This makes me appreciate the subtle approach of the 2021 film all the more.
Thank you I feel like this is a good sort of side primer for getting into Dune, you despite some irregularities compared with the source material of the books. The movie though the 2021 version epic minimalism at its finest if that makes sense.
Yes I’m glad they made a film that’s closer to the original book series.
Yes but you have to take into account that people who have never read or heard of Dune will be unguided through the journey of the story. This movie is overall a meh, but I was very entertained by it.
Maybe TOO subtle! So subtle tgat those who have never read the book might find it confusing. I am not in a position to make that judgement, since I've read it at least 15-20 times.
The newer movie may be more subtle, but that's only because they gloss over and don't address a ton of detail that was in the books and this older movie.
If all you saw was the new movie, you saw the Cliff's Notes of the story; which mind you isn't necessarily bad if deep sci-fi isn't your thing, but Dune is deep sci-fi. The older movie was admittedly a bit too ephemeral, but it packed a lot more substance into it.
That is perhaps the longest intro speech i have ever heard. Like = "Anyway, now that we've' explained everything we will be back next week with the actual fuking show."
I was a punk kid back when the movie was released. Ever since then it's been in my top 10 movies. I wasn't even aware of the novels before seeing the movie. Soon afterwards I found a paperback box set of the first four books. Of course it's my fav sci-fi series... I never went beyond Chapterhouse. I've always wanted to see a Lynch adaptation of God Emperor.
The prolog should have been a complete movie. It's the motivation.
I needed to check this out again after watching the Dune 2020 trailer.
May be ALEJANDRO JODOROWSY is the key.
such a better intro! thx for sharing
I love the artwork of this version's prologue
I like this intro more than the Virginia Madsen one. Narrator has a great voice and the use the score and images are perfect
it's all about the extended edition!
One of these schools, The BENE GESSERIT, is developed primarily for female students. Now, the other existing school.. The Spacing Guild, or the Guild.. it is through the Guild's monopolies on the economic life of the universe, that makes it so powerful. .. with the Guild and the Bene Gesserit as silent partners.. this combine is the key to the wealth and political power of the universe.
(IX and Tleilaxu aside)
The only time C.H.O.A.M. is explained by either movie franchise 🤷🏻♂️
I grew up on this version.
Saw this on sci-fi channel and it blew my freaking mind
Lynch isn't "ashamed" of Dune in either incarnation, just displeased with the "extended edition." Universal created it for TV in 1988 (and aired it in the syndicated "Universal Debut Network" series) by restoring 45 minutes' worth of deleted material to the film -- without Lynch's participation or approval. He has never singled out the prologue as the problem; it's the extended edition of the film itself he takes issue with, primarily because his final vision was the 1984 theatrical release.
One way for , IA rise ! 🐸🙃😎
Como ele contou uma história tão grande !🐸
I would have enjoyed Virginia Madsden relaying this information for seven minutes. Mostly because I could stare at her face for seven minutes.
This is the version I'm looking for on blu-ray
Great edit
I learned something today!
Man thanks for your comment I thought I was crazy back in the days until youtube I never seen this intro other then that one day at the beach I bet we were watching the same broadcast thats wild.
Dune 2021, I'm mixed on my critic of the film, just don't know if I liked it or not. I'm going to watch it again.
We really need a Dune Reboot done right, this is a FAR better universe then Star Wars could ever be and sooooo much ore content.
Lynch did what he could but cramming 2-3 movies worth of content into one was admirable. The Sci-Fi channel remakes were not well done and super cheesy and boring.
I would have loved to seen what Jordowsky's version would have done for the books if he was to have completed it.
Dune by far is one of my favorite Sci-Fi conversational pieces as well series.
The re-boot is coming.
Jodorowsky never read the book so... make a guess. He got only crazy ideas (some of them quite interesting like Harkonnen palace for example).I mean I don´t mind if its not like in the book.Thats why I enjoy Lynch´s movie as well but I think people that want to see the movie closest to book would be furious after seeing Jodorowsky´s version...
WE'RE GETTING ONE!! (but I am cautiously optimistic)
Dune and its offspring are more for thinking sci-fi fans, whereas Star Wars is enough of a cartoon with simple plots that was conceived as a movie(s), whereas a book can be more philosophical and expansive for mind's and imagination.
Shiinju
I think and extended TV series like Game Of Thrones would serve Dune far-better since there's so much content in it.
They left out 3 other schools: The Ginaz Swordmaster School, founded by the followers of Jool Noret;the Suk Medical School,founded by Dr Mohandas Suk,and the Mentat School, founded by Gilbertus Albans,human son of Erasmus the Robot.
yes they sure did, thank you! I was getting irritated that this prologue twisted too much
lol, Brian Herbert's.. pardon, Kevin shitty Anderson's Dune books are complete garbage, and are non-cannon.
Those books are pretty much written from the notes that Frank Herbert left on Disk.
I can understand that some people dislike them. If the choice was mine I would have preferred that Frank Herbert finished the series. Sadly his death occurred preventing that occurrence.
Brian and Kevin both try to do a good job at the writing and I think they did well given the fact they aren't Frank.
No they tried to make monney. Doing a good job would have mean to hire a real writer..
He sword master school was destroyed by then
Disney used to play the 4 hour version and mexico had a long version too.
The spice must flow...
Yeah I also loved the movie as a kid, nostalgia probably skews my opinion of it a bit but I think it's a brilliant movie.
The spice must flow
Thinking machines eh? We are slaves to algorithm and social media, big tech, much more nefarious, I’m jealous they had it this easy
Thats "men with machines" for you.
*uses computer to leave this comment online and never worked a single day as a slave to actual machines*