I read many stories about Marathon, Platea, and Salamis, Thermopoly. Its literally makes the hair in the back of my neck stand up!!! Free men back then stood their ground and fought with courage and a resolve to die rather than surrender or lose. It makes me proud of my ancestors!!!
By free you mean states built off the backs of slaves fighting against a massive empire which had little to no slavery and sustained that throughout its history. Persians were far more free than the Greek states.
Actually, as you may notice, this is a one man production, loll, I'm honored mate, thank you! :) They usually don't focus on the historical details of the battle or event, they only work on cinematography and armours, weapons etc etc...
There is a legend about what happened after the battle. After the battle of Marathon, a Greek messenger ran from Marathon to Athens, the distance was about 40 kilometers or 26.2 miles. When he arrived at the city, he delivered the news of the battle to the inhabitants of the city, then collapsed from exhaustion, That run is why the Olympics does a marathon, which also is usually the exact same distance run by the messenger.
According to story, he ran from Marathon to Athens, was given further instructions to be brought to Marathon, then returned to Athens again. That's the time he died of exhaustion, not the first run, but the third run.
@@NedimCanIncebay its fake cuz ancient greeks messengers were able to ran from athens to sparta its highliy unlikely that a messenger would have colapsed after that "little run"
@@macknut2033 Actually, the way I've learned it, he ran from Athens to ask Sparta for help, they said no, so he ran back to Athens, marched to marathon for the battle, then ran back to Athens again, then died of exhaustion
Spartan soldiers are one of the greatest warriors in history, or the best. Soldiers were growing, consisting of powerful units with incredible combat potential. I don't think they would ever lose a war if they were a great empire
@@redrock8259 they did lose, in battle and in wars, even when having dominion over Greece, they lost regularly against Macedon and then the Romans. Their most famous battle was a defeat, they started the Peloponnesian war with contingents being captured after surrendering to Athenians. And despite winning the war with the backing of the other city states fighting athens, they lost athens almost immediately to an Athenian admiral. Then they eventually lost to Thebes.
@@aliberkbalkan I dont think the graphic card matters that much here, I'm more impressed at his cpu being able to handle that much actions with that much units fighting on that map lmao
@@italianduded1161 There were no the "bad ones". Our whole history has been governed by nothing but self interest, regardless of race, culture or religion. The theme always was: Might makes right.
In fact a good amount of Persian troops would have been from the Greek cities of Asia Minor, at the time under the Persian Empire, and therefore would have looked just like the Athenian hoplites.
@@unternehme there were many groups of soldiers taking part in the persian imperial army depending the battles and the era that we talk about. sure the persian army had some merceneries of greek hoplites and from conquered cities but not in that specific battle. the sources do not mention greek forces in the battle of marathon. there were many sakes for sure.
Such legends and heroic acts cant be found in novels or be played in movies or in any way be produced any form of art of the human mind. These acts are belong in the extraordinary realm of reality and the only way you could get a small gasp of it, is by being a part of them.
Like beeing thirsty after 30 second of running in bronze armor and finding you water skin pierced by an arrow ?! Besides there have been numerous accounts of acts philosophy and scientific defiancy, acts of valor that truly stood the test of time, not only because they're remembered but because they have been in practical use ever since and still continue to contribute. (have to set my beer o'clock timer again to keep me from posting stuff like this, sry no offense).
This cinematic is one of the most beautiful I've seen so far, at least regarding this game. Everything is good: the music, the huge scale of the battle, the quality of the shots... Congratulations, my friend. Really good work.
Even the tiny details--like the bird's eye point of view, followed by the white bird flying over the battle formations, and the play of sunlight on the waves
3:39 That battle cry before the Greek phalanx and the Persian shield wall crashing. I would've shat my pants if ever see ten thousand armored hoplites charging against me while chanting that dreaded battlecry. Especially at 4:17 now that's a perfectly good shot. Absolutely well done.
@@HainiDjokovic1995 plus, the macedonian kingdom was pretty much ruined. The 4 kingdoms of the diadochoi fought for so long that in the end they were just shadows of their former selves, abandoning good cavalry and flexible infantry to properly support the phalanx. The phalanx is like a tank, the legionnairies could never take them head on but unsupported on the rears a phalanx can be easily toasted by a multi use infantry like the legionnairies
In the battle of Marathon,Athenians won Persians.After 150 years,Macedonians had the idea that unifying all Greeks,the result could be glorious and all Persian empire could be Greek.
Υπέροχος! Απίστευτος! The Battle of Marathon, in my historical analysis, must have been a "surprise" for the Spartans. The Spartans regarded the Athenians as philosophers and as "lovers of democracy", but not as warriors. After Miltiades' victory at Marathon, it became evident that Greece (Ελλάς) did not depend on the Spartans to win a conflict or a battle. The Battle of Marathon, in my historical analysis, marked the "starting point" of the Athenian hegemony. Nevertheless, in my historical analysis, Darius managed to achieve "50"% of his revenge against the two poleis that aided the Ionian Revolt: Athens and Eretria. Despite the Persian defeat at Marathon (which saved Athens), Eretria, on the other hand, was completely devastated and annihilated.
Then the democratic Athenian politicians banished Miltiades from Athens because he was such a capable and strong leader they were afraid of him and his influence. Miltiades fled to Sparta where they honoured him as a proper Hellene hero.
The Persians weren't nearly as prepared as this piece makes them appear, most of them were still encamped when the battle began and it was still night which caused massive confusion in their ranks.
It's crazy that The Spartans were not present at this battle because they were celebrating a Holiday hehe. They're arrived a few days later though. Long after the battle was over...well done👍🏻🔥🔥
I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that the athenians like the Spartans had great infantry as well not as great but nonetheless could hold their ground if needed.
I thought the Greek ranks were much thinner, also one of the most notable points in the battle was the distinct sound of the mass of Greek metal weapons and armor smashing into the cloth and flesh of the frontline Persians, that would have been a nice touch to include
They actually waited a few days, deciding on what to do. When the Persians split their forces, sending the navy to cut off and attack Athens. Then the Athenian forces attacked and then death marched back home to defend Athens.
Yeet Boy yeah the Battle of Bosworth is good with King Richard IIIs last stand/charge down the hill crashing into Henry Tudors bodyguard while Henry Tudor fled to hide.
@@dabdabbington4247 Henry VII fled? Fled from victory? I doubt it. He had to be there at the end to ensure his claim. Where source says he fled from victory?
سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ.
@@dabdabbington4247 سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ. ً
@@Nounismisation سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ.
After the battle the Athenians counted their dead and burnt then on funeral pyres...then they buried them in a mound ...192 dead...a allied Greek city lost a further 12 dead too .. The Persians lost 6400 dead ...butchered and beaten they fled the battlefield.......The mound of the Athenians is still there and in 1890 a German archeologist dug into the mound and counted the bones .....192 .......Wwwoooooowwwww ...
imagine spending all of that time in training, learning how to fight, how to be a soldier, getting hyped on the sail over to the beach head, only to get clapped by a volley of arrows on your formation walk *to* the enemy line
Historicaly accurate the greeks were outnumbred and they won cause of the presian fear and they werent in positons...but overall this vid is great! Keep up the great work!
Athens deserves most of the glory and gratitude for defeating the Persians,at Marathon and at the battle of Salamis.Proud to be Athenian and Greek for that matter.
I'm Greek and I guess you are Iranian former Pesrsian. our ancestors fought each other many times for 1500 years. we were neighbors until Turkish invasion in Minor Asia. Different civilazations but after all these years we must respect each other and be friendly nations. We stoped you from invasion in Europe many times but that was our duty, No hard feelings ok? You were a great nation too totally different from us but respectable.we are not enemies any more my friend.
Reason I love the Greco-Persian war is that it's war of numerical superiority for the Persians and a war of soldier superiority for the Greeks. One Greek was like worth 10-100 Persians
Unless I'm mistaken, the chant heard at 3:40 is from the movie Zulu (1964). I was half watching the video and heard that and immediately though, I know that from somewhere ...
Was a little off but that shit was awesome I would love to see more of those!! Didn't show when the Athenian leader got killed by hella spears and was stuck standing up cuz all the spears lol crazy
Just in general - the animations from total war that you have in the video are really great. You have some awesome mods and great closeups. You got a great eye for video capture. My questions was do you do them yourself ? If so I could use your help to create some anima for me - I’d be willing to pay for your services
One other thing: Watching this you'd think that the Persians won. The reality was that 192 Athenians were killed and about two dozen Plataeans. Persian casualties amounted to about 6,000. When the Spartans arrived on the field well after the battle, they were amazed at what the citizen-soldiers of Athens had achieved. They had not expected such a lopsided victory by the Athenians who they considered their inferiors at war.
its not Themistocles its Miltiadis.. Themistocles was fought as a simple hoplite in that battle. Themistocles the leader of the fleet in the battleship of Salamis.
Bro your videos are legit dope as fuck. Do you have to go into custom games and set it up and "play" the game? Or is there some kind of cinematic sandbox mode? I love the total war series of games and always thought doing something like this would be cool.
Nicely done, but a couple of inaccuracies here. The Greek line had been thinned at the center while maintained on the flanks, so it could be stretched wider and when the Persians would push in on the center, the flanks were able to surround the Persians. Also, in a break from the usual slow forward movement of the hoplites, the Athenians ran towrads the Persian so they could close the range of Persian archers, and this took them by surprise. At the end, it is said only 120 Greeks died
Well you are right but that's what I did, the Athenians began to run the last 200 meters as you may see it in the video, I just don't have a proper ''running'' animation for it, maybe you just didn't see it. And at 2:33, you can see the Greek line you mentioned. :)
Um no. That’s a movie based off of dramatic action. This is a video game. They’re incomparable and the combat isn’t even realistic in a video game. The movie, with its accepted flaws because you know it’s based off of a comic, is much a much more accurate retelling than that of Total War.
@@chinoschmino9108 well it's a no for you, yes for me. Being said the movie is flawed by it's dramatic approach, I must say I enjoy more the video game cinematic and gameplay than the movie. The movie right from the initial release was a complete disaster in my opinion, almost entirely ruining what the first 300 movie has accomplished.
Nedim Can Incebay thank you for your work, and more thing, Please, make the same video clip only about the battle of Borodino, I think everyone will be interested. Thanks for attention
1) Given that in Marathon 203 Greeks and 6400 Persians were killed, statistically we shouldn't see so many Greeks dying in this video - in fact almost none. 2) Army sizes don't visually match up. The Persians had 300,000 and the Greeks 10,000. That would make the Greek army look like a dot against the Persian army. 3) Miltiades ordered the Greeks to run like hell, each carrying 30kgs of armor, to catch the Persians by surprise and avoid getting hit by the Persian arrows. There wasn't any sort of ordered marching as shown in the video, though in Marathon and for the first time in the recorded history strategy was put to use by Miltiades who employed flanking tactics to smash the Persians.
If you read the accounts of the battle closely you'll see that the Persian cavalry was not involved in the battle and that most of the Persian troops were already on board ships when the battle actually commenced. What probably happened is that the Greeks made their move while the Persians were in the process of boarding their ships and leaving. This after the Persians waited for days for the Greeks to come down from the high ground. And a large chunk of the "soldiers" at the battle would have been rowers for the ships. Most of the real soldiers would have already been on the boats.
Further, from what we know about the battle, it turns out that the Persian ships were standing right on the shore near Marathon. If this is so, then 600 triremes moored side to side would occupy a space of 3.3 km. But no one moored side to side - you also have to work with oars. Accordingly, 600 triremes would occupy a space of at least 15-20 km. Which is unreal. Another thing is that mooring could be done with a ledge - when some of the ships were on the shore, and some at anchor - this type of mooring was used by the Persians at Artemission. But then the question arises of where the Persians fled, and why the anchored ships did not sail away, but actually evacuated their soldiers. And why didn’t the Persian ships washed ashore go to the Greeks? And that's exactly what happened. Let's go further. We know that the Greeks defeated the Persians, losing 192 soldiers. Moreover, a significant part was lost precisely during the assault on the Persian ships - it was there that the polemarch Callimachus was killed. A total of 7 ships were captured. Persian losses are allegedly 6,400 people. 200 to 6400. One to 32 - not bad, right? You can make a film about 200 Athenians... However, this is also an obvious lie. The same as the description of the battle itself. Think about it - Herodotus says in all seriousness that the Greeks ran 8 stadia (1.5 km) to the Persians. One and a half kilometers of running in full gear, with a shield, spear, and armor! And all these one and a half kilometers these hoplites maintained formation! Not just a lie, but a lie squared. To attack an enemy prepared for defense without formation, running 1.5 km in the September heat... In general, all these nonsense that Herodotus piled up led to the fact that the number of myths around Marathon multiplies in stacks. How could events actually develop? I believe that everything was as follows. Having received information about the Persian landing, the Athenians sent an army to Marathon. The goal and task of the army is to demonstrate readiness for battle and, possibly, negotiate good terms of surrender. The pro-Persian and anti-Persian coalitions are approximately equal in strength, so they send people and messengers to Sparta. At the same time, the Athenians could not seriously rely on the Spartans - after all, quite recently Sparta had seized power in Athens. And the pro-Persian forces, just like in Attica, felt at ease in the Peloponnese. And the support that the Lacedaemonians could provide to the Athenians could hardly have been (and was in reality) so significant that it would have radically changed the balance of power. Indeed, Sparta sent 2000 hoplites, who covered the distance between the city and Athens in 3 days, but they set out, it seems, only on the 9th day after the arrival of the messenger. The addition of 2,000 hoplites to the 10,000 Athenians and Plataeans could only be decisive if the Persians did not outnumber the Greeks very significantly. However, the Athenians, having arrived at Marathon, set up camp and wait. It’s not very clear what they are waiting for, but they are waiting for a long time. Datis is also waiting for something, without starting an attack (and yet, according to Justin, he has as many as 600 thousand soldiers)! They wait, wait, wait, wait, and suddenly, the 10th day comes, when power over the army passes to the strategist Miltiades (he was the tenth strategist, and the strategists took turns commanding), and immediately he shouts “Alga”, and everyone runs 1, 5 kilometers to the Persians, who, in turn, are fleeing from the Greeks to the ships. All supposedly 600 thousand. Yeah. The delusional nature of this version does not need to be considered at all. But why could the Athenians decide to attack? Why did they decide to run 1.5 kilometers to the Persians? Why were Athenian casualties only 192? The answer to this question is perhaps quite simple. The Persians, indeed, received some kind of sign (whether from the Alcmaeonids or from other supporters is unknown) and began to board ships to sail to Athens. It was this - the fact of loading onto ships - that forced the Athenian strategist Miltiades to send Greek troops to the Persian camp. Moreover, it was hardly the idea to break in there at the very beginning of the collapse and withdrawal of the Persians. Most likely, the Greeks waited until most of the troops were already on the ships, and they sailed. The attack was carried out on a small part of the army that remained on the shore. Considering that only 7 ships fell into the hands of the Greeks, it is quite possible to imagine that it was a barrage detachment of two hundred warriors and one thousand and a half sailors and oarsmen, whom the Greeks cut down amid enthusiastic cries, managing even in such a situation to lose 192 soldiers. Perhaps only with the idea of easy robbery could Miltiades force the Athenian soldiers to rush into that fight. This is the only reason they could not wait for the Spartans. That's the only reason they could decide to break the formation. This is the only reason they could run 8 stages to the enemy... After which, of course, the army had no choice but to return to the policy, setting up a camp and awaiting the arrival of the Persian fleet, which, I repeat, sailed from Marathon in perfect order. The fact that the Persians did not consider themselves defeated at all is evidenced by the fact that, having sailed from Marathon, they did not run home to lick their wounds, but, having taken captive slaves on Euboea, they headed to Athens, where their supporters were located. True, having heard about the skirmish at Marathon, the Athenian supporters of the Persians did not dare to speak out. The Persians circled around Athens and went home without eating. And Darius began preparations for a land invasion of Greece. The Spartans, having arrived at Athens some time later, looked with surprise at the broken military camp of the Athenians, marched to Marathon, examined the battlefield, and retired to Lacedaemon. By the way, it cannot be ruled out that the Spartiates hoped that the Persians and Athenians would beat each other up so much that Athens could be taken with their bare hands. But it didn't work out.
С историчностью хода боя есть косяки. Я как раз делаю научный разбор этой битвы для своего канала. В конце марта 2020 выложу на канале. Художественная составляющая отличная, очень понравилась. With the historicity of the course of the battle, there are shoals. I'm just doing a scientific analysis of this battle for my channel. At the end of March 2020, I will post it on the channel. The artistic component is excellent, I liked it very much.
Actually in that battle the Greek side had a man power of 10000 And the Persia side had a man power of 80000-120000 After the end of the battle the Greeks had lost 192 men From the other hand Persian had lost about 6000 thousand soldiers also an unknown number of men died while they were trying to escape from the battlefield ( they were running into swamps were they were drowning) There's a legend that says that a Greek soldier called kynegiros was trying to stop a ship with his bare hands
man, so nice! how do you edit the replay? do you capture each and replay again to capture another video angle and merge them into one video? Do you use adobe premier?
Thank you! :) Unfortunately replays doesn't work and I usually have to record these scenes again and again in a custom battle. I use Adobe, Sony Vegas and Camtasia for that. It depends.
I'm Turkish and I love the Greek mythology and history. Greeks are a great nation and I hope that Turkey and Greece can be friends. Let's forget the past, we are not Ottomans anymore and you are not Byzantium anymore. We are two sovereign countries Turkey and Greece. 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
One of the people that denied the existence of Marathon was Napoleon Bonapart. he belived the battle of Marathon was just a fairy tail made by the greeks.
@cap'n 'ook im one year late but when he visited the field of marathon he said that not even one of his regiments could fit into that place, so how could tens of thousands of men have fought there. he believed it was just some ancient greek propaganda to boost athenian moral (also the fact that this battle wasn't mentioned in any other non greek source)
IRAN (PERSIA),s POWER. Marathon man run to Athens that delivered victory of Persian forces. why man must run 40, KM for deliver victory and lose his life.
Damn dat phalanx formation is T H I C C. In the real life battle if I can remember correctly, The Greeks could only make their phalanx 4 men deep at the center because of the Persian's numerical superiority. This thin center caused the it to get pushed back while the much thicker flanks stayed in place which caused the Persian army to be enveloped.
I read many stories about Marathon, Platea, and Salamis, Thermopoly. Its literally makes the hair in the back of my neck stand up!!! Free men back then stood their ground and fought with courage and a resolve to die rather than surrender or lose. It makes me proud of my ancestors!!!
By free you mean states built off the backs of slaves fighting against a massive empire which had little to no slavery and sustained that throughout its history. Persians were far more free than the Greek states.
How come you guys get this done better in a fragment of the time it takes these experienced film directors to portray these events? Kudos to you
Actually, as you may notice, this is a one man production, loll, I'm honored mate, thank you! :) They usually don't focus on the historical details of the battle or event, they only work on cinematography and armours, weapons etc etc...
There is a legend about what happened after the battle. After the battle of Marathon, a Greek messenger ran from Marathon to Athens, the distance was about 40 kilometers or 26.2 miles. When he arrived at the city, he delivered the news of the battle to the inhabitants of the city, then collapsed from exhaustion, That run is why the Olympics does a marathon, which also is usually the exact same distance run by the messenger.
It is said that he actually died from exhaustion.
@@wasaykhokhar7185 I was afraid of writing that in case I heard the story wrong
According to story, he ran from Marathon to Athens, was given further instructions to be brought to Marathon, then returned to Athens again. That's the time he died of exhaustion, not the first run, but the third run.
@@NedimCanIncebay its fake cuz ancient greeks messengers were able to ran from athens to sparta its highliy unlikely that a messenger would have colapsed after that "little run"
@@macknut2033 Actually, the way I've learned it, he ran from Athens to ask Sparta for help, they said no, so he ran back to Athens, marched to marathon for the battle, then ran back to Athens again, then died of exhaustion
I love how the Greeks used a downhill sprint in full armor to become an unstoppeble moving unit and let the enemy Archers miss their targets.
Spartan soldiers are one of the greatest warriors in history, or the best. Soldiers were growing, consisting of powerful units with incredible combat potential. I don't think they would ever lose a war if they were a great empire
@@redrock8259 they did lose, in battle and in wars, even when having dominion over Greece, they lost regularly against Macedon and then the Romans. Their most famous battle was a defeat, they started the Peloponnesian war with contingents being captured after surrendering to Athenians. And despite winning the war with the backing of the other city states fighting athens, they lost athens almost immediately to an Athenian admiral. Then they eventually lost to Thebes.
@@redrock8259 actually in this battles Sparta did not turn up & made excuses about it.
my pc like: that's too much quality i'm gonna crash out bye
witch graphic card he got ?
@@איתמרמגוריכהן he got 2080 xd
@@aliberkbalkan how he do the cinematic movie ? there is an option in the game to do it ?
@@aliberkbalkan I dont think the graphic card matters that much here, I'm more impressed at his cpu being able to handle that much actions with that much units fighting on that map lmao
Funny how in the movies and games they made persians like arabs, they never search about persian armor style and weapons, lol
just sword look like persians
infact
they were a great empire
but hollyshitwood wants to make the others see them as the "bad ones"...
which good and bad in war is kinda inexistent
@@italianduded1161 There were no the "bad ones". Our whole history has been governed by nothing but self interest, regardless of race, culture or religion. The theme always was: Might makes right.
In fact a good amount of Persian troops would have been from the Greek cities of Asia Minor, at the time under the Persian Empire, and therefore would have looked just like the Athenian hoplites.
@@unternehme there were many groups of soldiers taking part in the persian imperial army depending the battles and the era that we talk about. sure the persian army had some merceneries of greek hoplites and from conquered cities but not in that specific battle. the sources do not mention greek forces in the battle of marathon. there were many sakes for sure.
Awesome. Thank you Nedim Can Incebay
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Greetings from Germany
Such legends and heroic acts cant be found in novels or be played in movies or in any way be produced any form of art of the human mind. These acts are belong in the extraordinary realm of reality and the only way you could get a small gasp of it, is by being a part of them.
Like beeing thirsty after 30 second of running in bronze armor and finding you water skin pierced by an arrow ?! Besides there have been numerous accounts of acts philosophy and scientific defiancy, acts of valor that truly stood the test of time, not only because they're remembered but because they have been in practical use ever since and still continue to contribute. (have to set my beer o'clock timer again to keep me from posting stuff like this, sry no offense).
I met this channel because a youtuber was using one of this videos as a reference to explain a battle, it's incredible how well done they are
This cinematic is one of the most beautiful I've seen so far, at least regarding this game. Everything is good: the music, the huge scale of the battle, the quality of the shots... Congratulations, my friend. Really good work.
It's great to hear that mate! Thank you for the comment! :)
Even the tiny details--like the bird's eye point of view, followed by the white bird flying over the battle formations, and the play of sunlight on the waves
3:39 That battle cry before the Greek phalanx and the Persian shield wall crashing. I would've shat my pants if ever see ten thousand armored hoplites charging against me while chanting that dreaded battlecry. Especially at 4:17 now that's a perfectly good shot. Absolutely well done.
Hahah same, terrifiying scene... o.o Thanks a lot for the comment! :)
@@NedimCanIncebay why Roman legion can overcome Greek phalanx, while Greek phalanx was powerful over Persian infantry?
@@HainiDjokovic1995 One word, flexibility. Phalanxes presented here and in movie 300 they're incorrectly represented. They were NOT that flexible.
@@HainiDjokovic1995 plus, the macedonian kingdom was pretty much ruined. The 4 kingdoms of the diadochoi fought for so long that in the end they were just shadows of their former selves, abandoning good cavalry and flexible infantry to properly support the phalanx. The phalanx is like a tank, the legionnairies could never take them head on but unsupported on the rears a phalanx can be easily toasted by a multi use infantry like the legionnairies
I absolutely love the sheer scale of the battle!
In the battle of Marathon,Athenians won Persians.After 150 years,Macedonians had the idea that unifying all Greeks,the result could be glorious and all Persian empire could be Greek.
that was crazy feat . Who would have imagined
@@aleksk4151 there's a reason greeks always fought each other. United they were too dangerous, so the mods nerfed them :p
The views from far distance look like real scenes. Amazing video, great job my friend!
Btw, my favourite part 7:07 - 8:00 :D
Can’t wait for the Troy cinematic battles!
Me too, that will be epic. :)
2:15 Persians attempt to form a wall of spears and shields.
Greeks: "Amateurs".
sumerian use first phalanx
@@cat3784 first ones to achieve a thing are not important, it is the ones who use it in the best way that are victorious.
Sondaki Marathon ulağı ayrıntısı çok hoş olmuş. Her video bir öncekinden güzel. Eline sağlık.
Que toca reja que sos loco..
Still love the RTW music. Brings back a lot of memories. What a game.
Υπέροχος! Απίστευτος!
The Battle of Marathon, in my historical analysis, must have been a "surprise" for the Spartans. The Spartans regarded the Athenians as philosophers and as "lovers of democracy", but not as warriors. After Miltiades' victory at Marathon, it became evident that Greece (Ελλάς) did not depend on the Spartans to win a conflict or a battle. The Battle of Marathon, in my historical analysis, marked the "starting point" of the Athenian hegemony. Nevertheless, in my historical analysis, Darius managed to achieve "50"% of his revenge against the two poleis that aided the Ionian Revolt: Athens and Eretria. Despite the Persian defeat at Marathon (which saved Athens), Eretria, on the other hand, was completely devastated and annihilated.
Then the democratic Athenian politicians banished Miltiades from Athens because he was such a capable and strong leader they were afraid of him and his influence. Miltiades fled to Sparta where they honoured him as a proper Hellene hero.
@@phosphorusdaemon7same problem with Roman Republican, fame and success also bring problems from other politicians view to them
I bet the Persians felt invincible when they landed at Marathon. Great Video buddy
That was their first significant and humiliating defeat. It must've been a real shocker to them.
Your video is better than the whole movie “300: Rise of an Empire”.
Oh, really, thank you! :)
It's "300: Rise of an Empire" AcUaLLy
Daniel Oppenheimer Oh yes I put the wrong title.
That was a movie ...?
James Hull Movie? Yes. Historical? I don’t think so.
your control of camera is epic
4:44 this Greek know how to truly fight
The Persians weren't nearly as prepared as this piece makes them appear, most of them were still encamped when the battle began and it was still night which caused massive confusion in their ranks.
They say the decendants of the Persians who survived are now the people who perform "cats, live on Broadway"
It's crazy that The Spartans were not present at this battle because they were celebrating a Holiday hehe. They're arrived a few days later though. Long after the battle was over...well done👍🏻🔥🔥
Spartans is very Religious society......
Fun fact the Athenians in the battle of marathon had only 100 deaths
192 Aθηναιοι 6.000 Περσες
Like the battle of carehee
Patrthians had very light casualties
Yes according to greeks but in reality is different 😂😂😂😂
@@venariansolider1949 in marathon died 192 Greeks. That's why their name was on Parthenon. Learn history and then speak
I don't think it was that fun to those 100
Damn the animation is really good
Greetings from greece 👌👌😀
@@NedimCanIncebay hello bro love turkey 😀😀👊👊
I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that the athenians like the Spartans had great infantry as well not as great but nonetheless could hold their ground if needed.
Everybody knows all greek armies used the phalanx at that age..
kysike666 it was their strategy that’s how they won battles without it they would fall or just get overwhelmed
I thought the Greek ranks were much thinner, also one of the most notable points in the battle was the distinct sound of the mass of Greek metal weapons and armor smashing into the cloth and flesh of the frontline Persians, that would have been a nice touch to include
Well done dude you never fail to amaze me
Awesome! I havent seen this in a while
Great Job
Thanks a lot! :)
They actually waited a few days, deciding on what to do. When the Persians split their forces, sending the navy to cut off and attack Athens. Then the Athenian forces attacked and then death marched back home to defend Athens.
Incredible how much details you put in this one can't wait for the next got battle
You should do the Battle of Bosworth or battles during the Wars of the Roses.
Yeet Boy yeah the Battle of Bosworth is good with King Richard IIIs last stand/charge down the hill crashing into Henry Tudors bodyguard while Henry Tudor fled to hide.
@@dabdabbington4247 Henry VII fled? Fled from victory? I doubt it. He had to be there at the end to ensure his claim. Where source says he fled from victory?
سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ.
@@dabdabbington4247 سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ. ً
@@Nounismisation سلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته اذكروا الله وصلوا على سيدنا الحبيب المصطفى محمد اللهم صلِ على سيدنا محمد و على آله وصحبه كما صليت على سيدنا ابراهيم وعلى آل سيدنا ابراهيم في العالمين انك حميد مجيد❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ياحي ياقيوم برحمتك استغيث اصلح لي شأني كله ولا تكلني الى نفسي طرفة عين❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ اللهم اغفر للمؤمنين و المؤمنات و المسلمين و المسلمات الاحياء منهم و الاموات🌹❤️ في حديث رواه مسلم في الصحيح: ثلاثة لا يكلمهم الله ولا ينظر إليهم يوم القيامة ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: المسبل إزاره، والمنان فيما أعطى، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، هذا من باب الوعيد عند أهل السنة والجماعة ليسوا كفاراً بل من باب الوعيد والتحذير والترهيب، المسبل يدل على أنه كبيرة من الكبائر، والمنان في العطية الله جل وعلا قال: لا تُبْطِلُوا صَدَقَاتِكُمْ بِالْمَنِّ وَالأَذَى [البقرة:264]، والمنفق سلعته بالحلف الكاذب، اللي يقول: والله إنها علي بكذا، والله إني شريتها بكذا، والله إنها ...... بكذا وهو يكذب حتى ينفقها يمشيها ويأكل أموال الناس بالباطل هذا وعيد شديد يدل على أن هذا من الكبائر من كبائر الذنوب مثل الحديث الآخر: ثلاث لا يكلمهم الله ولا يزكيهم ولهم عذاب أليم: شيخ زاني -شيخ شايب- وملك كذاب، وعائل مستكبر، هذا يدل على أن الزنا مع الشيخوخة مع كبر السن يكون أعظم من الزنا في الشباب أكبر إثماً، وهكذا الملك الكذاب إثمه أكثر؛ لأنه قد أعطاه الله الملك وأغناه الله عن الكذب فما الحاجة للكذب، وعائل مستكبر مع فقره يستكبر، الغني قد يحمله الغنى لكن هذا مع كونه فقير يستكبر هذا يدل على أن الكبر طبيعة له وسجية له نعوذ بالله فاشتد بهذا إثمه نسأل الله العافية لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله. نعم. المقدم: جزاكم الله خيراً سماحة الشيخ.
Very good depiction of the actual battle. This was way more realistic and exciting to watch than the movie 300 Rise of an empire.
The guy died when he got to Athens from the long run
Before that he yelled out "Nike"
His name is Phidippides (Φειδιππίδης) .He yelled Νενικήκαμεν (nenikikamen)= Victory
Liakos: Literally, in English, "We have won." (Perfect tense.)
Hoplites are badass AF !
Great work here. I recommend Vangelis’ album “Odes” with Irene Pappas as another source of evocative music for your Greek battles.
Wow, awesome job on this battle! You should do the battle of Bouvines next
The guy what was running is this how the marathon began
Theres nothing id rather see at night then that Nedim has uploaded
Dude that was amazing
How did you get the single soldiers walking around at the end?? Love your videos, ignites my fire to play Total War everyday.
After the battle the Athenians counted their dead and burnt then on funeral pyres...then they buried them in a mound ...192 dead...a allied Greek city lost a further 12 dead too .. The Persians lost 6400 dead ...butchered and beaten they fled the battlefield.......The mound of the Athenians is still there and in 1890 a German archeologist dug into the mound and counted the bones .....192 .......Wwwoooooowwwww ...
Lol at the RTW1 defeat soundtrack at the end!
imagine spending all of that time in training, learning how to fight, how to be a soldier, getting hyped on the sail over to the beach head, only to get clapped by a volley of arrows on your formation walk *to* the enemy line
worst thing is being in the first line in a melee combat
Muhteşem olmuş özellikle savaşın bitişindeki atmosfer 👌👌
Just subscribed because I liked this animation..it looked so real!
Thank you! :)
Oh I know now why Alexander died right after he finished his conquests, he tried to run from Parse to Athens to deliver the massage “Conquered”
The conquered massage
Historicaly accurate the greeks were outnumbred and they won cause of the presian fear and they werent in positons...but overall this vid is great! Keep up the great work!
And in the battle of Plataia the Greeks were outnumbered and in the battle of Salamis were outnumbered. And they won them too.
Athens deserves most of the glory and gratitude for defeating the Persians,at Marathon and at the battle of Salamis.Proud to be Athenian and Greek for that matter.
2 tarafın savaş taktikleri gerçeğiyle alakasız olsada efsane olmuş
Persian the great 💛💪
I'm Greek and I guess you are Iranian former Pesrsian.
our ancestors fought each other many times for 1500 years.
we were neighbors until Turkish invasion in Minor Asia.
Different civilazations but after all these years we must respect each other and be friendly nations. We stoped you from invasion in Europe many times but that was our duty, No hard feelings ok? You were a great nation too totally different from us but respectable.we are not enemies any more my friend.
@@nikolaostouloumis1573 👍🇬🇷The Iranian people are interested in Greece and Greek literature and culture
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Be well my firiend.
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Iranian women are the most beautiful from all midle east women😉
im back! (was thatrandomguy but had to change accounts) im loving your vids, getting better by the second!
Your work is awesome. You are an artist.
Great work man !! :)
Harika, Atina'ya zaferi bildirmek için 42 km koşan haberci de çok güzel olmuş. Videolarını zevkle izliyorum. Eline sağlık.
Reason I love the Greco-Persian war is that it's war of numerical superiority for the Persians and a war of soldier superiority for the Greeks. One Greek was like worth 10-100 Persians
Unless I'm mistaken, the chant heard at 3:40 is from the movie Zulu (1964). I was half watching the video and heard that and immediately though, I know that from somewhere ...
автор, мои восхищение проделанной тобой работой, делай ещё
Thanks a lot! :)
Was a little off but that shit was awesome I would love to see more of those!! Didn't show when the Athenian leader got killed by hella spears and was stuck standing up cuz all the spears lol crazy
Really like the animal that you have created from this video - did you create them yourself?
Just in general - the animations from total war that you have in the video are really great. You have some awesome mods and great closeups. You got a great eye for video capture. My questions was do you do them yourself ? If so I could use your help to create some anima for me - I’d be willing to pay for your services
One other thing: Watching this you'd think that the Persians won. The reality was that 192 Athenians were killed and about two dozen Plataeans. Persian casualties amounted to about 6,000. When the Spartans arrived on the field well after the battle, they were amazed at what the citizen-soldiers of Athens had achieved. They had not expected such a lopsided victory by the Athenians who they considered their inferiors at war.
All history is blablabla are you idiot ?
Where is your logic ?
Muhteşem video olmuş ellerine sağlık!
I remember Kratos being in this battle in God of War Chains of Olympus
Young Calis That was the city of Attica that the Persians were attacking, not Marathon or Athens.
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Woah that opening scene of Thermistocles with the Greek Hoplites forming up..
its not Themistocles its Miltiadis.. Themistocles was fought as a simple hoplite in that battle. Themistocles the leader of the fleet in the battleship of Salamis.
Bro your videos are legit dope as fuck. Do you have to go into custom games and set it up and "play" the game? Or is there some kind of cinematic sandbox mode? I love the total war series of games and always thought doing something like this would be cool.
Thanks a lot bro! :) I record all these scenes in custom battle, it's like a film scene, I play again and again till I get what I want.
@@NedimCanIncebay that makes in even more impressive. Must take a lot of work to get even one battle done well.
See that, Spartans? You're not the only victorious fighters out there. You never were.
Would have been cool to see some peltasts action haha. Sweet vid.
The most important thing in this battle is that Europe is what it is today ....
Nicely done, but a couple of inaccuracies here. The Greek line had been thinned at the center while maintained on the flanks, so it could be stretched wider and when the Persians would push in on the center, the flanks were able to surround the Persians. Also, in a break from the usual slow forward movement of the hoplites, the Athenians ran towrads the Persian so they could close the range of Persian archers, and this took them by surprise. At the end, it is said only 120 Greeks died
Well you are right but that's what I did, the Athenians began to run the last 200 meters as you may see it in the video, I just don't have a proper ''running'' animation for it, maybe you just didn't see it. And at 2:33, you can see the Greek line you mentioned. :)
thanks я русский если что , СПАСИБО ЩА КЛАССНЫЕ ВИДОСЫ!!!!
This is how the movie 300 Rise Of An Empire should look like
Um no. That’s a movie based off of dramatic action. This is a video game. They’re incomparable and the combat isn’t even realistic in a video game. The movie, with its accepted flaws because you know it’s based off of a comic, is much a much more accurate retelling than that of Total War.
@@chinoschmino9108 well it's a no for you, yes for me. Being said the movie is flawed by it's dramatic approach, I must say I enjoy more the video game cinematic and gameplay than the movie. The movie right from the initial release was a complete disaster in my opinion, almost entirely ruining what the first 300 movie has accomplished.
@@chinoschmino9108 i hope this is sarcasm cause its the other way around comapred to that movie
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Nedim Can Incebay thank you for your work, and more thing,
Please, make the same video clip only about the battle of Borodino, I think everyone will be interested. Thanks for attention
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I really hope that you have the strength and patience for this battle, it would look very epic. Thank you for attention
Great work.
1) Given that in Marathon 203 Greeks and 6400 Persians were killed, statistically we shouldn't see so many Greeks dying in this video - in fact almost none.
2) Army sizes don't visually match up. The Persians had 300,000 and the Greeks 10,000. That would make the Greek army look like a dot against the Persian army.
3) Miltiades ordered the Greeks to run like hell, each carrying 30kgs of armor, to catch the Persians by surprise and avoid getting hit by the Persian arrows. There wasn't any sort of ordered marching as shown in the video, though in Marathon and for the first time in the recorded history strategy was put to use by Miltiades who employed flanking tactics to smash the Persians.
If you read the accounts of the battle closely you'll see that the Persian cavalry was not involved in the battle and that most of the Persian troops were already on board ships when the battle actually commenced.
What probably happened is that the Greeks made their move while the Persians were in the process of boarding their ships and leaving. This after the Persians waited for days for the Greeks to come down from the high ground.
And a large chunk of the "soldiers" at the battle would have been rowers for the ships. Most of the real soldiers would have already been on the boats.
can you do the great battle of platea?
Yeah!.....bigger battle than the rest of them combined...never mentioned much.
Further, from what we know about the battle, it turns out that the Persian ships were standing right on the shore near Marathon. If this is so, then 600 triremes moored side to side would occupy a space of 3.3 km. But no one moored side to side - you also have to work with oars. Accordingly, 600 triremes would occupy a space of at least 15-20 km. Which is unreal.
Another thing is that mooring could be done with a ledge - when some of the ships were on the shore, and some at anchor - this type of mooring was used by the Persians at Artemission. But then the question arises of where the Persians fled, and why the anchored ships did not sail away, but actually evacuated their soldiers. And why didn’t the Persian ships washed ashore go to the Greeks? And that's exactly what happened.
Let's go further. We know that the Greeks defeated the Persians, losing 192 soldiers. Moreover, a significant part was lost precisely during the assault on the Persian ships - it was there that the polemarch Callimachus was killed. A total of 7 ships were captured. Persian losses are allegedly 6,400 people. 200 to 6400. One to 32 - not bad, right? You can make a film about 200 Athenians...
However, this is also an obvious lie. The same as the description of the battle itself. Think about it - Herodotus says in all seriousness that the Greeks ran 8 stadia (1.5 km) to the Persians. One and a half kilometers of running in full gear, with a shield, spear, and armor! And all these one and a half kilometers these hoplites maintained formation! Not just a lie, but a lie squared. To attack an enemy prepared for defense without formation, running 1.5 km in the September heat... In general, all these nonsense that Herodotus piled up led to the fact that the number of myths around Marathon multiplies in stacks.
How could events actually develop? I believe that everything was as follows. Having received information about the Persian landing, the Athenians sent an army to Marathon. The goal and task of the army is to demonstrate readiness for battle and, possibly, negotiate good terms of surrender. The pro-Persian and anti-Persian coalitions are approximately equal in strength, so they send people and messengers to Sparta.
At the same time, the Athenians could not seriously rely on the Spartans - after all, quite recently Sparta had seized power in Athens. And the pro-Persian forces, just like in Attica, felt at ease in the Peloponnese. And the support that the Lacedaemonians could provide to the Athenians could hardly have been (and was in reality) so significant that it would have radically changed the balance of power. Indeed, Sparta sent 2000 hoplites, who covered the distance between the city and Athens in 3 days, but they set out, it seems, only on the 9th day after the arrival of the messenger. The addition of 2,000 hoplites to the 10,000 Athenians and Plataeans could only be decisive if the Persians did not outnumber the Greeks very significantly.
However, the Athenians, having arrived at Marathon, set up camp and wait. It’s not very clear what they are waiting for, but they are waiting for a long time. Datis is also waiting for something, without starting an attack (and yet, according to Justin, he has as many as 600 thousand soldiers)! They wait, wait, wait, wait, and suddenly, the 10th day comes, when power over the army passes to the strategist Miltiades (he was the tenth strategist, and the strategists took turns commanding), and immediately he shouts “Alga”, and everyone runs 1, 5 kilometers to the Persians, who, in turn, are fleeing from the Greeks to the ships. All supposedly 600 thousand. Yeah. The delusional nature of this version does not need to be considered at all. But why could the Athenians decide to attack? Why did they decide to run 1.5 kilometers to the Persians? Why were Athenian casualties only 192? The answer to this question is perhaps quite simple. The Persians, indeed, received some kind of sign (whether from the Alcmaeonids or from other supporters is unknown) and began to board ships to sail to Athens. It was this - the fact of loading onto ships - that forced the Athenian strategist Miltiades to send Greek troops to the Persian camp. Moreover, it was hardly the idea to break in there at the very beginning of the collapse and withdrawal of the Persians. Most likely, the Greeks waited until most of the troops were already on the ships, and they sailed. The attack was carried out on a small part of the army that remained on the shore. Considering that only 7 ships fell into the hands of the Greeks, it is quite possible to imagine that it was a barrage detachment of two hundred warriors and one thousand and a half sailors and oarsmen, whom the Greeks cut down amid enthusiastic cries, managing even in such a situation to lose 192 soldiers.
Perhaps only with the idea of easy robbery could Miltiades force the Athenian soldiers to rush into that fight. This is the only reason they could not wait for the Spartans. That's the only reason they could decide to break the formation. This is the only reason they could run 8 stages to the enemy... After which, of course, the army had no choice but to return to the policy, setting up a camp and awaiting the arrival of the Persian fleet, which, I repeat, sailed from Marathon in perfect order.
The fact that the Persians did not consider themselves defeated at all is evidenced by the fact that, having sailed from Marathon, they did not run home to lick their wounds, but, having taken captive slaves on Euboea, they headed to Athens, where their supporters were located. True, having heard about the skirmish at Marathon, the Athenian supporters of the Persians did not dare to speak out.
The Persians circled around Athens and went home without eating. And Darius began preparations for a land invasion of Greece.
The Spartans, having arrived at Athens some time later, looked with surprise at the broken military camp of the Athenians, marched to Marathon, examined the battlefield, and retired to Lacedaemon. By the way, it cannot be ruled out that the Spartiates hoped that the Persians and Athenians would beat each other up so much that Athens could be taken with their bare hands. But it didn't work out.
С историчностью хода боя есть косяки. Я как раз делаю научный разбор этой битвы для своего канала. В конце марта 2020 выложу на канале. Художественная составляющая отличная, очень понравилась.
With the historicity of the course of the battle, there are shoals. I'm just doing a scientific analysis of this battle for my channel. At the end of March 2020, I will post it on the channel. The artistic component is excellent, I liked it very much.
Actually in that battle the Greek side had a man power of 10000
And the Persia side had a man power of 80000-120000
After the end of the battle the Greeks had lost 192 men
From the other hand Persian had lost about 6000 thousand soldiers also an unknown number of men died while they were trying to escape from the battlefield ( they were running into swamps were they were drowning)
There's a legend that says that a Greek soldier called kynegiros was trying to stop a ship with his bare hands
PAME!!! NIKE NIKE
man, so nice! how do you edit the replay? do you capture each and replay again to capture another video angle and merge them into one video?
Do you use adobe premier?
Thank you! :) Unfortunately replays doesn't work and I usually have to record these scenes again and again in a custom battle. I use Adobe, Sony Vegas and Camtasia for that. It depends.
@@NedimCanIncebay Wow! You have impressive editing skills and massive patience. Keep going! Cheers!
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great camera angles like watching a movie 🏆
we watched this video on our class xD
Your teacher must be awesome.
Good job bro!
Hey, a battle that I knew about for once!
Nice video Bro. How to have this kind of realistic effects.. I love the decapitation scene
A great battle, now tou can try to do the battle of Cannas?
>What 300 part 2 should have been.
I'm Turkish and I love the Greek mythology and history. Greeks are a great nation and I hope that Turkey and Greece can be friends. Let's forget the past, we are not Ottomans anymore and you are not Byzantium anymore.
We are two sovereign countries Turkey and Greece.
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Fun fact;Priam and Hector both survived the battle for Troy!
No, they die, Agamenon kill Priam and Achiles kill Hector
One of the people that denied the existence of Marathon was Napoleon Bonapart. he belived the battle of Marathon was just a fairy tail made by the greeks.
@cap'n 'ook im one year late but when he visited the field of marathon he said that not even one of his regiments could fit into that place, so how could tens of thousands of men have fought there. he believed it was just some ancient greek propaganda to boost athenian moral (also the fact that this battle wasn't mentioned in any other non greek source)
IRAN (PERSIA),s POWER. Marathon man run to Athens that delivered victory of Persian forces. why man must run 40, KM for deliver victory and lose his life.
Casualties and losses
Greeks:
192 Athenians
11 Plataeans
Persians:
6,400 dead
7 ships destroyed
(More than 30 dead Persians to kill 1 Greek)
Damn dat phalanx formation is T H I C C.
In the real life battle if I can remember correctly, The Greeks could only make their phalanx 4 men deep at the center because of the Persian's numerical superiority. This thin center caused the it to get pushed back while the much thicker flanks stayed in place which caused the Persian army to be enveloped.
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