Frank Zappa on sin, guilt & "dirty" words, 1969: CBC Archives | CBC
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- In this clip, legendary musician Frank Zappa talks about TV, censorship and the absurdity of sin, guilt and "dirty" words. For more classic clips, go to www.cbc.ca/archives
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A great Vid!
The interviewer is as involved in the Questioning of these values as FZ ( soo rare to see, in ANY interview)
- and seems a genuinely interesting bloke himself
yeah I was surprised as hell - Canada I'm guessing? A lot more laid back place than US clearly
My thoughts too
I still say he was one of the smartest men to ever walk the planet. We miss you Frank. RIP.
He was a well-spoken genius.. loved his insights
You can see the cognizance in Zappa’s eyes. Bright eyed and awake. The world needs the second coming of FZ
Sin is NOT what society says it is. God and the word of God clearly defines what sin is ~ but you gotta READ the Bible to get it. My cat is a genius compared to these 2 gentlemen and their followers. Frank wrote, played and directed some great music. I wonder how Frank felt about God when he was diagnosed with his terminal prostrate cancer? I wonder how he will feel when he stands in front of the God that that he gleefully denigrated through out his musical life. God will gleefully make it clear to these 2 gentlemen what sin is and who defines sin.
Your concept of smart is laughable and puzzlingly.
@@jeffbogue3718 The beginning of wisdom starts by fearing THE ONE AND TRUE LIVING GOD. You set the bar low for being a genius.
I could watch the man speak for hours. Miss you, Frank!
As Frank said "there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over"
Zappa is a legend but the interview seems to have some good sense too and that is so refreshing to see.
And the thing is, Zappa had a TERRIFIC family life and relationship with his kids, they speak well of him to this day. See a connection?
guydreamr
Except ahmet
He did and he didn't. He was very open with them, but would also walk out of family dinners & things because he'd spontaneously thought of something to record, for example.
Frank was allowed every whim, even sexual by his enabling wife Gail.
Or else, he could leave for one of his groupies.
According to his children.
having spent the week watching more recent recordings of him i gotta say seeing him talk to someone who's VERY 1969 feels like those scenes from Forest Gump when they superimposed Tom Hanks over archival footage. dude was just cosmically ahead of the game.
I had never thought of it that way but its a damn good argument for frank being a time traveler
He wasn't alone or the first. For just one example, Lenny Bruce was expressing many of these same ideas before Zappa got famous.
@@hardtruth Yeah no joke. Glad the tides have been turning if VERY slowly.
Zappa was always socially and culturally aware and sharp as a tack
Wow...even way back in 69 this guy was intense. A lot of people interviewed him over the years. I think he has been fairly consistent and practical.
Smoked his self to death
@@mikemiller659 along with the fact that his dad did government work in radioactive stuff and he grew up living next to radioactive experimental facilities...
@@ronniebrown2517 Good point made without advocating for smoking. The ignorant will clutch at whatever straw they feel necessary to dismiss whoever they don't agree with to repress the insecurity of being in the midst of someone who knows more than them about something.
I love to listen to Mr. Zappa explain the absurdities of life.
Thank goodness there are pioneers (like this dude)
Pioneers? Give me a break! He's denying the concept of Original Sin, and the idea that we're born into sin. Everything we do is sinful. There's no such thing as a "good person."
You're being victimized right now, do you know it?
Martin Hyizna only untill you figure out the secret....then it all seems so pointless except the real
Ur weird
so great to see and hear and GET SOME RELEVANT THOUGHTS
Wow, great clip. Thanks for sharing.
Another hero. Oh, CBC. You continue to be cooooooooool.
Aw Frank, why did you have to go so soon?
just like all the greats
Frank Zappa and George Carlin are the two most profound political philosophers of the last half-century.
You have my vote on that!
La mejor recopilación de musica que se hizo de Frank Zappa fue radioactivo en 1995
Noel Gallagher can't even dream of having 10% of Frank's creative mind.
No, but Noel Gallagher wrote some great songs regardless. Why drag him into it anyway? Seems like kind of a sharp, left turn.
Fair point.
Itelkner I assumed Noel was mentioned because of his opinions on Zappa, voiced in his BBC 6 Music show with Matt Morgan. He claimed he knew no one who genuinely liked Frank’s music, as it was pretentious nonsense that ‘men with beards’ enjoyed. Matt Morgan on the other hand, tried to argue the case for Zappa’s music as is a fan
Thanks for saying that
Don't ever put noel Gallagher and frank Zappa in the same sentence again!
FZ and the Mothers played live in the CBC studios just before their last gigs when FZ broke the band up. I think it was Toronto. That would have been August/September 1969. I think the performance is missing. That is very sad. I can find a precise date if CBC want to have a hunt about their archive
ahead of the game
Never expected a shout-out (of sorts...) from FZ to my alma mater, Wayne [State] University in Detroit. I wondered if this interview happened across the river in Windsor.
If sin doesn’t exist at all for you personally, that you say you personally don’t believe in what sin is, well the entire world as we speak is celebrating in living in sin.
Frank was just plain SMART. Matter of fact and tons of common sense. We need him RIGHT NOW!
Do you expect Frank Zappa can improve our lives? Will he pay our bills and help us overcome Joe Bidens disaster to the American people and Joe's price hikes? Can and do you pray to Frank Zappa?
Dude.... Fkn whatever.
@@luvbasses5487 That "whatever" was the truth and the truth just crushed you.
Like I said.... no debate. Go run back and pray to your god Frank Zappa. Game over.
Goodnight
It's been 10 years why don't you just upload the whole damn clip!?
It would be awesome if there was a short or reel regarding social media projected to the feeds of the new young adults and Frank, in black and white with full eye contact hit the youth with the "You're being victimized. Do you know it?". Memorable
a true genius
A man way ahead of his time
He was ahead of his time. 😊
Sin is a Christian concept. It's a spiritual shortcoming. Any morally wrong action can't be called a "sin" in a secular context. It would be correct to speak of some action being immoral rather than sinful. I love FZ's music and his sharp mind and prescience but it's a mistake to expect him to be brilliant on all subjects. His answers here are not particularly exceptional, nor his reasoning admirable.
I like him too, but I don't agree with many of his views. Thats fine though!
No hurt. No sin.
Isn't it.
sin just means without and the monks who transcribed that book of fiction called the Bible just denoted sin as meaning without god ... it is hilarious because there is no god so I guess god is without existence or is sin existence.
so you believe in talking snakes and donkeys and burning bushes that give commands and putting all the animals on the planet in a boat. Pathetic.
@@BillDerBergyou’ll find out… when it’s too late!
a great duuuude!
I hate the loud sign-off electric sound. Are they trying to annoy listeners? If so, they're successful.
I hate that too
Hot Rats LP ahead of it’s time! First recording with computer drums ! Does anybody out there know this ? ! !
Which track? Both the 1969 and 1987 mixes sound live, to me....
Jack, I think you are a little confused. It wasn't the drums, but the number of tracks being the highest ever recorded at that time. I'm not sure if they were 16 or 24 tracks, though.
I find him kinda pretentious but also funny at times, and I certainly do enjoy his music
that is least symmetrical zappa 'stache ive ever seen
Frank Zappa for President 2024.
When CBC was relevant(ish)
those were the days when we we're proud of our CBC. Now...well...it's all different. CBC is anathema to me now.
👌
Taboo's are the Worst forms of Control and Exclusion!
Yes, let's all do want we want, no limits! Total anarchy on all aspects of life...
The concept of sin is one of mankind's most self-destructive mental constructs.
Yes, let's all do want we want. They world would "certainly" be a better place without those stupid guiding rules. Let's abolish laws too. Cause I don't want to feel bad if I rape or kill a person. Atheist scepticism is really dumb and irrational.
I am not religious & therefore don't believe in "sin", but if I for example, killed someone, I *would* feel bad about it. Are you suggesting if you hadn't been told by religious leaders about sin, you would be a psychopath?
@@bent2 The idea that you should only feel bad about bad things if the church tellls you is a dangerous idea religon has caused most war
@@noodles41 would you feel bad if you killed serial killer or someone who tries to kill you?Where is the limit there?
@@bent2 law ≠ religion.
Maybe don't try to connect the 2 things next time, idiot?
there are people out there who do, mate :)
0:49 Sea, Sex and Sun ?
No morals,no sin.
Another prophet of the times, just like Hunter S. Thompson
A prophet who shot himself? Seams like a contradiction there.
@@bent2 Bro, stop spreading your stupidity throughout this comment section. XD
Sin is not a societal construct (it can be, but those “sins” are not necessarily what anyone should be concerned about). The interviewer was in error there, and it seemed like the interview entered a tailspin there. Frank is right to reject societal sins and to “not believe” in them.
Actual sin is a force at work in human hearts which draws them away from love of the creator towards love of the creation. That sin must be believed in. And if you don’t, you’re like a convict who whimsically doesn’t believe in prison while serving a life sentence.
@Invité If a holy God showed up in his glory, you’d melt like ice cream on a hot summer day. Consider his grace and mercy in hiding himself from you. Though he has revealed himself in his word, though you hate that. Die in this state, and your condemnation is justified.
@Invité Yes, blame God for your sin. Shake your fist at the heavens like every existentialist before you. Blame the God you don’t even believe in. Harbor anger and vitriol for the non-existent God. Seethe with hatred for an imaginary God. You’re so wise! You make such good use of the few pathetic minutes you have left in your meaningless life by attacking a Christian for his belief!
He deleted his replies. Good. May God grant you repentance.
Today, the biggest problem is whatsapp and telegram "resends".
😂😂
Smoke on the water my wife likes this song
The idea that words are bad is childish.
No, it is not. Historically, we have "curse words" because certain words were actually associated with curses. People believed that the words would bring about curses, and so they were feared and avoided for reasons that were perfectly justifiable within the context of their belief systems. We can certainly make the argument that these belief systems are antiquated and misguided, but nonetheless, they provide a rational framework for the notion of fear and aversion to mere words. If we are going to discuss the absurdity of having "obscene words" in the modern world, then we need to attack the belief systems that were responsible for them, rather than ignorantly presenting these "appeal to the stone" fallacies.
You can't lie and spread lies without words. And there are the such things as libel and slander, which do real harm to people as a result of the abuse and misuse of "words".
@@josephdesimone6599 You just proved his point. It's childish.
timcast
I am the slime.
Oh yeah, how do you taste?
@@brightbite Salty,with a touch of bitterness, and a hint of sweetness.
As he's using one of the deadliest drugs around,cigarettes.
He's half right, it's university that's the issue, everyone in TV is university educated, every single one. And they're controlled.
Hot Rats ! Lol 🎧🎼🎹🥁
You only know what your taught
..cool! Three four letter words to implement national ..culture worries!
Where were you 4 years ago?
اول عربي يعلق: 💔😹😹.
ههههههههههههههه😹😹
وثاني وحد.
جاي تدور زي لقطت 😹 💔
This has to be the most off-putting channel intro I've ever seen.
Too impressed with his own mind.... music aside.
Why do I watch interviews with Zappa? I disagree with many of his views, I rarely find him funny, and his arrogance irritates. He had a lot of fans like me, a fact he acknowledged when he named a compilation of instrumental music Shut Up & Play Your Guitar. But something, more than just nostalgia, does keep me coming back, not just to the music but to the man. I admire what he was able to do in his life.
sin is just another word for offense.. so he's saying he's offended by the idea of offense. everybody is offended by something..even good ole frank. shit man, we live in this world of political correctness that is founded on the idea of offense. we're just as uptight and prudish today as they were in the 1600's.. the only difference is the context and subject/object of the offense. we're still getting offended and ready to symbolically burn somebodies career at the stake.. all a person has to do is say the wrong thing and their professional and personal life is ruined. some scientist says 'global warming is a hoax' and ZANG! CRUCIFYYY!! some scientist disagrees with evolution and POW! BURNNNN!! Some business owner expresses the idea that homosexuality is a life choice and not something your born as and the villagers come running with their pitch forks and torches. I mean shit man, if you cant see the other side of this thing then your not seeing the whole picture and will be susceptible to the same behavior as all those weirdos back during the burning times, crusades, inquisition, pogroms, holocaust, holodomor, "great leap forwards", slavery, or just anything that rules that a human is not a human and therefore can be done with as someone wishes(not unlike something that was made legal in 1973) , .. and if you think it cant lead to people being killed then think again.. it does.
I don't believe in sin, but I do believe in crime
you don't believe in morality, just ethics. makes zero sense, bravo.
so by frank's logic, are children fair game?
The interviewer's thoughts are as interesting as Frank's. He is not at all adversarial.
That’s because they are of the same spirit!
Sin is specifically a biblical term. It's not equivalent to morality. Morality in the Western Tradition draws from the Ten Commandments specifically, but without the belief in eternal life, there is no point in discussing sin. Denying its significance is simply another way of saying you don't believe in Good and Evil. If you don't believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob then you would have no concept of what sin actually is. Neither Frank Zappa nor the interviewer has any idea as open-minded as they appear to be.
+brianp117 I agree all up till the end...He had strong understanding of what he was speaking...It is always obvious that somebody who states they do not believe in the existence of sin has done so by choice.So they do not have to own up to there own sins...
"It is a notorious fact that the morality of society as a whole is in inverse ratio to its size; for the greater the aggregation of individuals, the more the individual factors are blotted out, and with them morality, which rests entirely on the moral sense of the individual and the freedom necessary for this. Hence, every man is, in a certain sense, unconsciously a worse man when he is in society than when acting alone; for he is carried by society and to that extent relieved of his individual responsibility. . . . Any large company composed of wholly admirable persons has the morality and intelligence of an unwieldy, stupid, and violent animal. The bigger the organization, the more unavoidable is its immorality and blind stupidity. Society, by automatically stressing all the collective qualities in its individual representatives, puts a premium on mediocrity, on everything that settles down to vegetate in an easy, irresponsible way. Individuality will inevitably be driven to the wall. This process begins in school, continues at the university, and rules all departments in which the State has a hand. In a small social body, the individuality of its members is better safeguarded; and the greater is their relative freedom and the possibility of conscious responsibility. Without freedom there can be no morality." ~ Carl Jung (from The Relations Between the Ego and the Unconscious, p.169)
Well sin is also a tool of manipulation which is used to control others, mainly through guilt. This doesn't necessarily mean that one is a bad person, it is possible not to buy into the idea of sin but still have a moral compass.
Human made laws too are a tool of manipulation. I would like to rape someone without some lawmen interrupting me with their moral codes. I don't want feel guilty about anything...
Sin, immorality and unethical behavior mean different things to different people. For me and most people who are not religious, sin and morality are superstitious concepts for people who believe in invisible beings with super powers. Being unethical means that someone did or does something that actually harms somebody or the planet's environment. It is a concept based on compassion not superstition.
So Gail, when are you going to shut this video down in your effort to erase the heritage of Frank.. Shame on you! You should concentrate on releasing complete shows, letting us fans have what we need, not what you think we need.. Enjoy the royalties, and stay away from the internet!
Chryslerdude Whos gail?
@@Rhodiac his wife
God decided what sin is, and if Frank could come back for 5 minutes, he would preach Jesus. Repent while there's still time, life is short.
yes, indeed
Can't believe people look up to this dude.
Why?
Mr Zappa was an absolute genius. Who do you look up to ?? Donald Duck 🦆
Jules please forgive me I love you I will always love you darling siobhan mckenna
3 jews down thumbed this video.
Sin is stated by God Almighty mr...
Man invented all of it!
try living in 2020
snowflakes abound
Sin is what God declares. Not what man thinks. Frankie boy, you were very wrong on THIS POINT.
The fool has said in his heart there is no God ;-)
@@christianboddum8783 therefore, FZ was a fool according to God’s assessment.
@Invité Nothing like clean fresh brain i tell you (-:
The most Woke guy in the world
This is actually kind of cringe. Zappa is an amazing musician and innovator, but nobody says anything particularly enlightened here.
Baby Boomers, Gen X, Gen Y.1, Gen Y.2, Gen Z, Millennial, Zillennials, C-19rs, when this video is watched after COVID we all will be a transformed into a different generation, and the video and your comments would be completely misinterpreted. the important thing to do throughout history and from this point forward is, "Do what Jesus tells us to do and we will be okay."
Sorry Frank but you can't sit and smoke tobacco like it is going out of existence and be anti drug.
Tobacco was his favorite vegetable.