I once met RB Fans in the train and chatted a bit with them, they said this Club is despite its business model quiet attractive for people from their region out of the simple fact that you cant go to the other clubs watching football with your Kids, because the Fan Culture there is, lets say problematic. Its no place you wanna spend your Saturday afternoon with your family, RB is.
So its basically importing a consumerism aspect to beeing a football fan. We are not interested in that in the slightest and you also have some antifa freaks on red bull away games which behave quite violently so... no
That view is mostly deluded though. East German football has changed since most RB fans came into contact with it and became fans. If they do ever go to any East German clubs, they experience hostility against themselves and their club. But you can go to Magdeburg as a Magdeburg fan, or Dynamo as a Dynamo fan without problems, even as a visiting fan. 20 years ago, 15 years ago etc. Many clubs in East Germany were very violent and had lots of hooligan problems, they are mostly gone by now. There are lots of families at games of Dynamo Dresden or Energie Cottbus, or FC Magdeburg or Carl Zeiss Jena or Wismut Aue, and there are no problems, plus there you'll see actual fans.
There is one thing people always oversee. This company did not want to help East German football, and they didn't. They damaged it's name. They wanted to buy Fortuna Düsseldorf and St.Pauli the way they bought Austria Salzburg in Salzburg, and changed their hundred year history in minutes with changing the colors, crest and name. Imagine Manchester United being bought and all of a sudden being renamed to Monster Manchester and the colors being changed to Black and green, and the crest being replaced with a Monster M. How would they feel? This predatory mindset is what led Red Bull to want to buy a club in Germany. First they actually looked in the west, before moving east because the market was bigger there for Football clubs, since the actual Eastern German football clubs sadly were in a bad state at that time, many in the regional league or lower level professional football. They wanted to buy a club, and make a Red Bull Düsseldorf, but couldn't since the clubs refused. They didn't even find a big club in the East, which had fans and a history that they could buy, so they bought a tiny team in the low-low levels of German football and bought it up, constantly way outspending their competition especially in the lower leagues, their move to the first division was incredibly easy, and through all of that they were despised by both east and west. It was a pure marketing move. Now, for another story, the fans of Austria Salzburg created their own Club, Austria Salzburg. It is bit by bit climbing through the leagues in Austrian football, honestly and with grass-roots. Many Eastern German clubs are having the same thing happen now. Union Berlin, completely grass-roots made it to the first division in 2019, Magdeburg went up from the regional division in 2015 to the third division, then stayed there for a while and now is in the second division since 2022 and is currently looking good in the table. Hansa Rostock and Dynamo Dresden both are still in the third division, but had been in the second division for a couple seasons, and their games are well-attended and the fans are crazy good. This is the real Eastern German Football, fans from a second division team coming to Berlin with 25,000 fans or to Cologne with 15,000, this is something RB will never be able to do. Sorry for writing an essay but people really need to get the whole picture about why we hate this "club"
I’ve learnt a lot about German football since this video 😉👍🏾 look forward to watching Union v Bochum - Hertha v Münster & BFC Dynamo v Babelberg next month 🤩 thanks for the info! East German football fascinates me and look forward to matchdays in Rostock, Dresden, Aue, Magdeburg etc
You should check out the Alfred-Kunze-Sportpark of Chemie Leipzig. A fan founded Club based of the old Chemie Leipzig, what was called Sachsen Leipzig bevor they got into bankrupcy. Chemie started in the lowest tier and now are in the 4th Division we're they play their arch rivals Lok Leipzig. The only two clubs that are important in Leipzig.
Also check the history of BSG Chemie Leipzig. GDR Politicians in high positions and a huge company (Kabelwerke) backed the team with money, privileges and so on. Almost no other amateur club in the 1960s had this kind of backup. In some sort, BSG and around 10 other clubs established professional football in the GDR. That is, bought or "delegated" the best players from amateur clubs to the few clubs with mighty political and financial backup. Hansa Rostock is also an artificial football club. Almost the entire team "Empor Lauter" was relocated *during a running football season* from Saxony to Rostock, just because some politicians wanted a club in the north of the GDR. Team and staff was lured to Rostock by giving them privileges, apartments, money, etc. That's why Hansa Rostock is also called "The Traitors of Empor Lauter". Today, Hansa Rostock is thinking they invented fair play in football.
Fun Fact: I was in Leipzig with my (western) football team for a tournament and we visited the old Leipzig stadion. No security at all, we were able to go on the pitch and kick some balls - unthinkable in western Germany even at that time already, but east was enjoying the absolute freedom. I hate RB and the business approach the sponsor has, but I admire how the build the new stadion really inside of the old (the stairways outside are from the old stadion) and I plan to go there when my club (FC St. Pauli) will have its Bundesliga away game - also because I look foreward to a weekend in Leipzig which is probably the most open city of eastern Germany. But kicking in that stadium is a moment I will never forget (yes, I am old now, but still passionate) PS: Yes, the lower capacity for international matches has to do with standing, usually in newer stadiums (like I know it from Hamburg, the build the stadion with a ground that can be flipped up and convert into metal seats. Not 100% sure for Leipzig, but that is the way they do it Hamburg, they just "lift" the ground floor and it becomes seats.
@@RysFootyParadise it depends mate, the big games like our derby vs Dortmund will def be sold out, or Bayern. But if you make sure you book your ticket in time i think you're set. I know as I moved to the middle of the Netherlands 2 decades ago for my wife and kids, so I unfortunately cant visit every game anymore. But I make the 2,5 hour drive multiple times per year myself. So cool you loved our club brother! We have a very dedicated and extreme loyal fanbase. When you plan to go go to a game, hit me up! I wanna be in your vlog for sure then my man! Im 43 and have seen all our promotions, relegations, european football etc. Im a die hard lol💪🏽👍🏽😃
You have a very good sense of humour...awesome...nice work for the Bundesliga. Europameisterschaft is called...but most of the time we just say EM...for the lazy ones 😄
my wife and I went there a few years ago (from thwe US) and most of the staff and people there in general were so rude and acted like they didn't speak any English whatsoever...
Strange 🤨 I do attempt a bit of German at first, but generally most will understand you’re an English speaking person and try to converse in communication. At other clubs, like Union Berlin they were incredibly friendly & welcoming
Well did you try speaking German? If not then don't complain about the Germans not speaking English. No disrespect but you sound like a typical Yank tourist who expects everywhere you go to cater for your needs
I am sorry that you had that experience, but I can‘t imagine that Germans act like they can‘t speak English. It is more common that we try everything and feel a little embarrassed if this doesn‘t work.
Most Americans are very friendly and lovable people and always welcome here! But when I feel the charm of your lines...hmm, I think I would probably also start to act as if I didn't understand any English. Anyway, best wishes to you and your wife in the US! 😊
Yep people hate RB but Bayern are still the most hated apart from the glory hunters who support them. Went to Leipzig with City - great ground combines a Modern Stadium with a bit of history - those steps are murder though !
The only reason Bayern get's disliked here in Germany is the same reason like ManUnited in England, Real Madrid in Spain or Juventus in Italy, success. And here in Germany people get very jealous very fast if you gain any form of success. Leipzig is hated by everyone cause they were founded simply as a pure marketing club for the Red Bull energy drink. And pre 2009 the Red Bull Company already had destroyed an austrian traditional club with Austria Salzburg.
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I enjoyed this video. A genuine football fan who loves football.
Cheers mate, love learning about the history of clubs
I once met RB Fans in the train and chatted a bit with them, they said this Club is despite its business model quiet attractive for people from their region out of the simple fact that you cant go to the other clubs watching football with your Kids, because the Fan Culture there is, lets say problematic. Its no place you wanna spend your Saturday afternoon with your family, RB is.
So its basically importing a consumerism aspect to beeing a football fan. We are not interested in that in the slightest and you also have some antifa freaks on red bull away games which behave quite violently so... no
That view is mostly deluded though. East German football has changed since most RB fans came into contact with it and became fans. If they do ever go to any East German clubs, they experience hostility against themselves and their club. But you can go to Magdeburg as a Magdeburg fan, or Dynamo as a Dynamo fan without problems, even as a visiting fan. 20 years ago, 15 years ago etc. Many clubs in East Germany were very violent and had lots of hooligan problems, they are mostly gone by now. There are lots of families at games of Dynamo Dresden or Energie Cottbus, or FC Magdeburg or Carl Zeiss Jena or Wismut Aue, and there are no problems, plus there you'll see actual fans.
@@JTOhekal3383 Yes maybe, this conversation is also years ago.
There is one thing people always oversee. This company did not want to help East German football, and they didn't. They damaged it's name. They wanted to buy Fortuna Düsseldorf and St.Pauli the way they bought Austria Salzburg in Salzburg, and changed their hundred year history in minutes with changing the colors, crest and name. Imagine Manchester United being bought and all of a sudden being renamed to Monster Manchester and the colors being changed to Black and green, and the crest being replaced with a Monster M. How would they feel? This predatory mindset is what led Red Bull to want to buy a club in Germany. First they actually looked in the west, before moving east because the market was bigger there for Football clubs, since the actual Eastern German football clubs sadly were in a bad state at that time, many in the regional league or lower level professional football. They wanted to buy a club, and make a Red Bull Düsseldorf, but couldn't since the clubs refused. They didn't even find a big club in the East, which had fans and a history that they could buy, so they bought a tiny team in the low-low levels of German football and bought it up, constantly way outspending their competition especially in the lower leagues, their move to the first division was incredibly easy, and through all of that they were despised by both east and west. It was a pure marketing move. Now, for another story, the fans of Austria Salzburg created their own Club, Austria Salzburg. It is bit by bit climbing through the leagues in Austrian football, honestly and with grass-roots. Many Eastern German clubs are having the same thing happen now. Union Berlin, completely grass-roots made it to the first division in 2019, Magdeburg went up from the regional division in 2015 to the third division, then stayed there for a while and now is in the second division since 2022 and is currently looking good in the table. Hansa Rostock and Dynamo Dresden both are still in the third division, but had been in the second division for a couple seasons, and their games are well-attended and the fans are crazy good. This is the real Eastern German Football, fans from a second division team coming to Berlin with 25,000 fans or to Cologne with 15,000, this is something RB will never be able to do.
Sorry for writing an essay but people really need to get the whole picture about why we hate this "club"
I’ve learnt a lot about German football since this video 😉👍🏾 look forward to watching Union v Bochum - Hertha v Münster & BFC Dynamo v Babelberg next month 🤩 thanks for the info! East German football fascinates me and look forward to matchdays in Rostock, Dresden, Aue, Magdeburg etc
You should check out the Alfred-Kunze-Sportpark of Chemie Leipzig. A fan founded Club based of the old Chemie Leipzig, what was called Sachsen Leipzig bevor they got into bankrupcy. Chemie started in the lowest tier and now are in the 4th Division we're they play their arch rivals Lok Leipzig. The only two clubs that are important in Leipzig.
Also check the history of BSG Chemie Leipzig. GDR Politicians in high positions and a huge company (Kabelwerke) backed the team with money, privileges and so on. Almost no other amateur club in the 1960s had this kind of backup. In some sort, BSG and around 10 other clubs established professional football in the GDR. That is, bought or "delegated" the best players from amateur clubs to the few clubs with mighty political and financial backup.
Hansa Rostock is also an artificial football club. Almost the entire team "Empor Lauter" was relocated *during a running football season* from Saxony to Rostock, just because some politicians wanted a club in the north of the GDR. Team and staff was lured to Rostock by giving them privileges, apartments, money, etc. That's why Hansa Rostock is also called "The Traitors of Empor Lauter". Today, Hansa Rostock is thinking they invented fair play in football.
@@SvenTeresniakwe think we invented fair play in football? 😂😂
@@SvenTeresniakah du bist sogar 'n Kunde. Lösch dich #neinzuRB
yeah "The only two clubs that are important in Leipzig" if you're a nazi
Fun Fact: I was in Leipzig with my (western) football team for a tournament and we visited the old Leipzig stadion. No security at all, we were able to go on the pitch and kick some balls - unthinkable in western Germany even at that time already, but east was enjoying the absolute freedom.
I hate RB and the business approach the sponsor has, but I admire how the build the new stadion really inside of the old (the stairways outside are from the old stadion) and I plan to go there when my club (FC St. Pauli) will have its Bundesliga away game - also because I look foreward to a weekend in Leipzig which is probably the most open city of eastern Germany. But kicking in that stadium is a moment I will never forget (yes, I am old now, but still passionate)
PS: Yes, the lower capacity for international matches has to do with standing, usually in newer stadiums (like I know it from Hamburg, the build the stadion with a ground that can be flipped up and convert into metal seats. Not 100% sure for Leipzig, but that is the way they do it Hamburg, they just "lift" the ground floor and it becomes seats.
That’s amazing! Yes I agree! I will be returning soon for RB vs Eintracht Frankfurt and doing a stadium tour before the game 🤩
My brother, when are you coming back to my beloved VFL Bochum? That was awesome to experience your first bundesliga game ey?💪🏽😃
Hoping SOON! Tickets often difficult to obtain for Bochum matches?
@@RysFootyParadise it depends mate, the big games like our derby vs Dortmund will def be sold out, or Bayern. But if you make sure you book your ticket in time i think you're set.
I know as I moved to the middle of the Netherlands 2 decades ago for my wife and kids, so I unfortunately cant visit every game anymore. But I make the 2,5 hour drive multiple times per year myself.
So cool you loved our club brother! We have a very dedicated and extreme loyal fanbase.
When you plan to go go to a game, hit me up! I wanna be in your vlog for sure then my man! Im 43 and have seen all our promotions, relegations, european football etc. Im a die hard lol💪🏽👍🏽😃
I want to visit too but bochum tickets and most buli teams outside of Leipzig are hard to get
very informative, liked it !!!
RY!... Let me know if you make it to the boccum game, im a local and would be happy to buy you a round!!!
Cheers mate 😁👍🏾 just depends on how much RUclips pay this month, otherwise might have to put the trip back a month - will still be over at some point
Is it purely due to the Red Bull investment that the club is disliked? Genuine question. Thanks.
@jorisbmg8496 Thankyou 👍
Well said 👏🏽 Hoffenheim is also disliked
The fanfest was on the Augustusplatz. The Festwiese just hosted a few stores before matches.
Ahh thank you 😊
Try rb Salzburg for a tour and rb new York if you ever go there mate
And belgrano
One of the only nice football fans from England
Cheers mate 😅👍🏾
Can I bundesliga tickets directly from stadium and what is the probably that they will not be sold out?
I want to watch match of FC Koln on 14th Sept
I question you order jersey from soccer03 how long it took to arrive I like your videos
About a month mate 😊
The club might be questionable, but their new Puma kits are tempting me D:
Lovely merch it’s gotta be said 😅
Dont do it!
@@RysFootyParadiseyou are selling yourself to the devil if you do mate!
should check out leipzig Lokomotiv
You have a very good sense of humour...awesome...nice work for the Bundesliga. Europameisterschaft is called...but most of the time we just say EM...for the lazy ones 😄
Next season getting close now mate. I can’t wait for Oxford game!
Bring it on
@@RysFootyParadise price for ticket is £28.
Damn he camped in the 🌲🌳 haha
my wife and I went there a few years ago (from thwe US) and most of the staff and people there in general were so rude and acted like they didn't speak any English whatsoever...
Strange 🤨 I do attempt a bit of German at first, but generally most will understand you’re an English speaking person and try to converse in communication. At other clubs, like Union Berlin they were incredibly friendly & welcoming
Well did you try speaking German? If not then don't complain about the Germans not speaking English. No disrespect but you sound like a typical Yank tourist who expects everywhere you go to cater for your needs
@@RysFootyParadise You can't call them that anymore, we all converse in communiction
I am sorry that you had that experience, but I can‘t imagine that Germans act like they can‘t speak English. It is more common that we try everything and feel a little embarrassed if this doesn‘t work.
Most Americans are very friendly and lovable people and always welcome here! But when I feel the charm of your lines...hmm, I think I would probably also start to act as if I didn't understand any English. Anyway, best wishes to you and your wife in the US! 😊
I thought this was Eminem presenting at first lol
Think u should go for the gold beard too mate would be like that boy xavier that used to play for Middlesbrough
Haha didn’t he play for Everton as well?
@@RysFootyParadise yeah sure he was at derby for a wee bit as well
Yep people hate RB but Bayern are still the most hated apart from the glory hunters who support them. Went to Leipzig with City - great ground combines a Modern Stadium with a bit of history - those steps are murder though !
As a German, I can say this is totally not true. RB is without doubt the #1 hated club in Germany
@@Nutzer11 Und auch als Deutscher kann ich dir nicht zustimmen - Nur Der HSV !
The only reason Bayern get's disliked here in Germany is the same reason like ManUnited in England, Real Madrid in Spain or Juventus in Italy, success. And here in Germany people get very jealous very fast if you gain any form of success. Leipzig is hated by everyone cause they were founded simply as a pure marketing club for the Red Bull energy drink. And pre 2009 the Red Bull Company already had destroyed an austrian traditional club with Austria Salzburg.
I’m the real slim shady
Thanks for visiting RB Leipzig
Nur der RBL ❤️ 🤍
Yet plenty of German people drink redbull 😮😅