"..she got a problem with her groover. Let's cut through that!"--> I see what you did there Chuck 🤣👉👉❤ Love your energy and video as always!! Your energy is contagious!! You're a blessing!!!
It is a pleasure to watch a how-to video that is well thought out and organized. No rambling. I'm heading over to Weaver Leather to pick up some tools.
Great video and great information. I'm new to using a stitch groover and was totally confused on how the blade went. Your video was a huge help. Small hole front, big hole back. Perfect. Thank you very much
Due to other drains on my finances at present I'm yet to begin leather-crafting - but I diligently follow the "Leather Element" and am absorbing some knowledge that I can call upon when I can afford to take up this craft. Thanks Chuck - you're an inspiration. :)
This video had some great points! From the use to the sharpening all were right on the mark. All very important tips for the newbie. I wish I would of seen it when I first started out. It would have saved me a lot of time trying figure out what I was doing wrong with this tool. Thank’s Chuck.
My groover has the problem where leather is stuck in it. Been trying to figure out how to get it out and even decided to just order a new one. Thanks for the info on how to fix it. Great videos by the way very informative.
Thanks for showing me how to use the groover .One thing my groover tool also came with a trimmer 3 edgers different sizes 1 groover and 1scribe how do I use the rest of them..Thanks for your video was ex..Thanks ahead of time for your lesson..Mario
This is a great video. In the same theme I would like to see a similar video on U and V Gougers. How to use them and what they are best used for. Thanks!
Very first time I used a grover it clogged lol. Now there are two different kinds. 1 the cutter is in the center like these. 2nd the cutter is on the arm that's what I have both work good.
Thanks for the videos.. I am wondering if you can do a video about tool storage and setup? I am struggling with keeping everything nicely organized for easy use. I would love some tips! (Unfortunately, I don't have a permanent space to set it up, so it needs to be mobile enough for those times it needs to be moved out of sight)
Thanks this helped alot. I'm currently working on my first leather project [a belt] o.o so I'm learning as I go. My groover I got.. for sure must have been dull since I had to put alota pressure into it.. xD
If I coils suggest subject for Leather element it would be how to handle thin types of leather. Most of the work i do is done in thin type of leather I find it difficult to bevel it, grooving would be challenging too since leather is quite flexy. Even cutting it might be difficult sometimes
Thank you for all your valuable tips. I'm new to leather and I bought the wrong leather. I have thin soft leather. Can you show me what I can make with thin soft leather? Thank you
That's a great idea for making the border! Thanks for the tip! A better and easier way to sharpen this tool would be to make a grove and rub in your compound then run the tool backwards up the grove, this would accomplish polishing the entire cutting edge all at once and keep the edge geometry.
I also have problems with this tool and I wonder if Cynthia had the same issue which is NOT covered in this video. When I received my groover from Weaver it did not have a cutting head installed. It had a steel blank, and the cutting head was in a bag along with it. That's fine except 1) I didn't understand I had to swap it out and 2) There are no included instructions on the correct orientation to mount the cutter head. So I'm left guessing and figuring this out through trial and error. Really should be some information included or put into a vide!
Hey Chuck! Love your videos! I had an idea for a leather element. And it comes from personal experience when I was starting out. I frantically searched for an in depth video about punching nice stitching lines. There are tons that teach you how to mark a line and punch it but I needed one that taught me more about how the distance of your line and the number of tines dont always match up and what to do if that happens. I dont know how many times I would just start punching on one end, first tine last hole, till I got to a corner and there was too much line left to just add one more hole but also not enough to add two. Also navigating stitching lines on square corners was super tricky for me. Still is. Haha. But I just thought you could maybe make a bare bones chiseling video talking about some of the problems someone new to leatherwork can face that seasoned craftsmen like yourself might not even think about anymore. Thank you!
I've been doing this a while now, but always looking for opinions on this. I've got creasing tools as well and prefer them. Do you have any reason why you would use a groover over a creaser for stitching valleys, or vice versa? I've always found that the creaser tends to work a bit better and is more forgiving, as in once a stitch groover removes material, you can't put it back. I can also add it while the leather is wet from being tooled.
Thanks Chuck, any lacing videos planned. Not suited for a reign fare 😉 but interesting. And my wife flipped over that same bag your wife tried to sneak off your bench lol. Expanded video on that would be interesting also. Thanks for all you do.
We do have a few videos where the items are laced together instead of sewn, we'll link them below and you can let us know if that is what you are looking for! Pillow: ruclips.net/video/0Ib_shQfOcI/видео.html Bag: ruclips.net/video/B_8Ls8PwYpk/видео.html
@@christophermcculley8318 Hi Chris. On Mountain Men, Tom Oar made a set of. beaver fur lined “mittens” (thumb and all four fingers). You might see if you can find that episode as there are some good shots of how he and Nancy did it.
If using a die that comes with stitch hole blades (instead of manually using pricking irons), can a stitch groover be run over those pre-made stitch holes or will that mess up the groover and/or leather?
If your blade is pretty sharp you might be ok but the groover will likely get stuck on each hole so the line could get a little wonky. We would maybe test it on a scrap piece and see how it does.
Hi there, The groover comes with two tips, a flat tip that scribes the leather like a wing divider would and a blade tip that will actually remove a sliver of leather like in the video. You can swap out these tips using the allen wrench that comes with the tool. To adjust the guide arm, twist the knurled part of the tool that sits between the handle and the guide arm. This will loosen the guide arm and allow you to set your width. Once you've set the width, twist the knurled piece to tighten (see 4:24 in the video where Chuck loosens the knurled piece with pliers).
someone gave me a set of tools since I really wanted to get started. My groover tool has the hole (cutter) on the arm, instead of on the center part of the tool. Does that indicate something about the quality of the tool? I have never gotten it to cut a spiral 'chip' the way you do, and I'm not really sure that I could put an edge on it again.
It shouldn't have anything to do with quality - we have seen both types of groovers but you may need to sharpen the blade. We'll link a video here that Chuck shows some ways to buff the blade. ruclips.net/video/phAeANzrP2w/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Have you done a project using water buffalo? If so, please let me know. I'm new to the leather world and still learning. I wanted to use it for small credit card wallets. Yes?
Hi Jady! We've done a few videos with the chrome tanned water buffalo. We'll link them below so you can take a look at them. The videos we've done with the veg tanned water buffalo are some belt videos and the guitar strap video. Let us know if you have any other questions. Purse: ruclips.net/p/PLzvwlO3D_z7eZwCDUQHqXCP6SDXjy4SEn Laptop Bag: ruclips.net/video/tVWO4sCzk7o/видео.html Guitar Strap: ruclips.net/video/PEOngDgZips/видео.html
Hi Steve, Yes, the groover actually removes some of the leather, so, the stitching sinks in a little bit deeper. Both will do the job for marking your stitch line, it's mostly personal preference on which tool you use.
Hello Chuck, ty for your always great videos. you say in your video eighteen of an inch. Is this 0.18 inch? I´m working with cm so it must be then 0.45 cm, right? Ty for you answer :-) Maybe an idea for next videos, write minimalKey facts in you description - for this video per example the used inch numbers and also in cm?
Hi there again my favorite youtube video buddy, hey I have a question about a groover I got in a kit, well the groover I have has the metal guide & that has sharp tip on it, but the area where blades should go, mine is totally solid, have you ever seen any like this, if so, what are these actually used for, I mean there's no place to set any blades. I got it from Amazon in a kit named (Electop), thanks.
Hi Melody, It's just made opposite of the one in the video, so you would use the guide arm to cut your groove and the middle section will be your guide. I've had a few of those throughout the years and it should work just fine.
There are many brands and types of glue and it's usually personal preference but Barge is a great option for a contact cement that will hold extremely well. Fiebing's Leathercrafter's cement works great if you want to be able to reposition the product as you're gluing. Hope that helps!
Hey Chuck, well I do have a question or problem! I am not used to edge my leather, but it works most of the time. But right now I am trying to make super thin belts for my nephew, and I just can't get a nice edge on those things. What am I doing wrong?
Thomas! Thanks for asking, and I’m sorry to answer a question with a question but, I want to see if I can get some more information. How thin is the leather and what type of tannage? Also are you using an edger?
@@WeaverLeatherSupply well I did calculate it is 2.5 Oz. I am using an edger and a burnischer. I using water for the process. And the belts width of the belt is 0.35 inches. And it is veg tan. Hope I answered everything. And thanks in advance for your help. Cheers Thomas
Does it take a bit to learn to cut the leather rather than tear it? I just bought a groover from Tandy leather, and the first 1/4 inch of the groove line was pretty good - but then it just began to tear it up. This is my first attempt - what am I doing wrong?
Hello, It shouldn't tear up the leather - it sounds like there's either a dull blade or maybe the blade has a burr on it. I would recommend contacting them and letting them know what its doing. Thanks!
It’s going to depend on the material and the material surface. Since you asked I tried one on the Poundo Board we sell and it made a beautiful groove! I’m not sure of the durability outside of leather but it does cut a nice groove there.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply .. Thank you so much Mr. Chuck.. I'm so glad you've practically tried the groover onto a materiel I've asked for and even more happy to know that it worked beautifully.. Again thank you so much Sir.. 👍
Hi Al, I do use a wing divider occasionally, I just prefer to use the stitch groover whenever I can. This is just personal preference, a wing divider works great for marking stitch lines too!
Hi there! Chromes can be tough to groove just because of how soft they are, I would suggest using a wing divider to mark your stitch line on soft leathers like suede.
"..she got a problem with her groover. Let's cut through that!"--> I see what you did there Chuck 🤣👉👉❤ Love your energy and video as always!! Your energy is contagious!! You're a blessing!!!
Always informative and positive. Like a hug from granny.
It is a pleasure to watch a how-to video that is well thought out and organized. No rambling. I'm heading over to Weaver Leather to pick up some tools.
I really appreciate the tip on sharpening!
Great video and great information. I'm new to using a stitch groover and was totally confused on how the blade went. Your video was a huge help. Small hole front, big hole back. Perfect. Thank you very much
Thank you! I wondered how to sharpen it!
He said how to sharpen it at 6:12....
Hey chico go fuck yourself
Due to other drains on my finances at present I'm yet to begin leather-crafting - but I diligently follow the "Leather Element" and am absorbing some knowledge that I can call upon when I can afford to take up this craft. Thanks Chuck - you're an inspiration. :)
Thank you so much for watching, Fil!
So glad I found these videos man is Chuck an awesome teacher.
i just love Chuck so freakin' much.
Great advice on the 1/8" seam. I'd been doing that, but didn't know why.
Thanks Chuck for another sharp video.
This video had some great points! From the use to the sharpening all were right on the mark. All very important tips for the newbie. I wish I would of seen it when I first started out. It would have saved me a lot of time trying figure out what I was doing wrong with this tool. Thank’s Chuck.
Great. As a beginner this is a really good video.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I was trying to figure out why it stopped working, it was just clogged. Thanks Chuck!
So glad the video was helpful!
My groover has the problem where leather is stuck in it. Been trying to figure out how to get it out and even decided to just order a new one. Thanks for the info on how to fix it. Great videos by the way very informative.
Thanks for showing me how to use the groover .One thing my groover tool also came with a trimmer 3 edgers different sizes 1 groover and 1scribe how do I use the rest of them..Thanks for your video was ex..Thanks ahead of time for your lesson..Mario
You are such a good teacher! Very helpful.
This was so helpful! Thank you!
Hey, Chuck now that video was "really groovy"!
This show is the one I needed. Thanks so much
Thank you! You present so clearly!
Thanks for the sharpening tip.
I love your leather videos. I'm new and learning so much! Thank you!
Thank you so much.. Learned a lot from this video. You are simply the best !!
This is a great video. In the same theme I would like to see a similar video on U and V Gougers. How to use them and what they are best used for. Thanks!
Very first time I used a grover it clogged lol. Now there are two different kinds. 1 the cutter is in the center like these. 2nd the cutter is on the arm that's what I have both work good.
Thank you so much for this and other videos! You have taught me a great many things; and inspired me to create again in a new medium!
Thank you so much, Joe - that means more than you know!
ThankYou my friend!!!
Re stropping, makes sense because the cutting edge is facing backwards in the groover, compared to facing forward like in an edge beveler...
I stopped going in 1/8" a while back, I now like 3.175mm as it looks much nicer.
Well said and well presented! I was always a little unsure of when to use this tool. Thanks!
Great tips Thank you for sharing
K
Love your programs, but how about stitching through thick leather such 6-7MM on thick belts and holsters.
Thanks for the videos.. I am wondering if you can do a video about tool storage and setup? I am struggling with keeping everything nicely organized for easy use. I would love some tips! (Unfortunately, I don't have a permanent space to set it up, so it needs to be mobile enough for those times it needs to be moved out of sight)
Thanks this helped alot. I'm currently working on my first leather project [a belt] o.o so I'm learning as I go. My groover I got.. for sure must have been dull since I had to put alota pressure into it.. xD
That's great to hear - glad the video was helpful and we hope you're enjoying leathercrafting!
If I coils suggest subject for Leather element it would be how to handle thin types of leather. Most of the work i do is done in thin type of leather I find it difficult to bevel it, grooving would be challenging too since leather is quite flexy. Even cutting it might be difficult sometimes
Thank you for your suggestion!
Thank you for all your valuable tips. I'm new to leather and I bought the wrong leather. I have thin soft leather. Can you show me what I can make with thin soft leather? Thank you
Thanks for all the straight info! I'll purchase my beginner tools from your site..Right on videos,,priceless!
Thanks so much, Richard!
I tried to groove a slightly damp piece of leather the other day.... Never again. Thank you for the great video.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for the tip on sharpening! Do you dampen the leather sometimes before running a groove line, or always dry?
We would recommend dry only, it can gum up a little bit if the leather is wet.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Thank you!
That's a great idea for making the border! Thanks for the tip! A better and easier way to sharpen this tool would be to make a grove and rub in your compound then run the tool backwards up the grove, this would accomplish polishing the entire cutting edge all at once and keep the edge geometry.
Can you do video on stitching punches.. types, when to use certain types, etc..thanks
I also have problems with this tool and I wonder if Cynthia had the same issue which is NOT covered in this video. When I received my groover from Weaver it did not have a cutting head installed. It had a steel blank, and the cutting head was in a bag along with it. That's fine except 1) I didn't understand I had to swap it out and 2) There are no included instructions on the correct orientation to mount the cutter head. So I'm left guessing and figuring this out through trial and error. Really should be some information included or put into a vide!
Hey Chuck! Love your videos! I had an idea for a leather element. And it comes from personal experience when I was starting out. I frantically searched for an in depth video about punching nice stitching lines. There are tons that teach you how to mark a line and punch it but I needed one that taught me more about how the distance of your line and the number of tines dont always match up and what to do if that happens. I dont know how many times I would just start punching on one end, first tine last hole, till I got to a corner and there was too much line left to just add one more hole but also not enough to add two. Also navigating stitching lines on square corners was super tricky for me. Still is. Haha. But I just thought you could maybe make a bare bones chiseling video talking about some of the problems someone new to leatherwork can face that seasoned craftsmen like yourself might not even think about anymore. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your expertise. Excellent teaching!
Everything I need to know, appreciate it
Thanks for the awesome video Chuck. I need to start using a stitch groove, just had the stitching on one of my knife sheaths catch on something.
Thank you for your information. I am very new and I learning a lot.🙂🦇
I've been doing this a while now, but always looking for opinions on this. I've got creasing tools as well and prefer them. Do you have any reason why you would use a groover over a creaser for stitching valleys, or vice versa? I've always found that the creaser tends to work a bit better and is more forgiving, as in once a stitch groover removes material, you can't put it back. I can also add it while the leather is wet from being tooled.
Thanks Chuck, any lacing videos planned. Not suited for a reign fare 😉 but interesting. And my wife flipped over that same bag your wife tried to sneak off your bench lol. Expanded video on that would be interesting also. Thanks for all you do.
We do have a few videos where the items are laced together instead of sewn, we'll link them below and you can let us know if that is what you are looking for!
Pillow: ruclips.net/video/0Ib_shQfOcI/видео.html
Bag: ruclips.net/video/B_8Ls8PwYpk/видео.html
Do you have any tips on taking the groover around bends or corners please? I never seem to ba able to get these neat
Excellent thanks
Need a weaver catalog on the tools
Eddie Porter I called last week just on internet . No catalog. Springfield leather and Tandy has one
Would you ever use a stitch groover to make a line before Machine Sewing a project?
that counter clock motion, is it only at the beginning of the groiving to get you started? or do you have to keep that tension through out? thanks
I was wondering how you grooved in the middle of a piece. Thanks for addressing that. Have to buy one at least.
So glad that helped!
Thank you 👍
When do you use the groover, on dry leather or damp leather?
I struggle when using the groover on a radius. Any advise on how to best achieve good results?
how do you do a grove around the curved edge and of the strap,, thanks
Have one but never used it much Chuck, guess I should start using it more :D Thanks for another awesome video Sir :D
Thank you for watching, Chris!
How about doing leather gloves with a fur liner
Hi Christopher,
Gloves are tough one and something I haven't done very much of - but we'll write it down and maybe some day we can dive into that one!
Weaver Leathercraft thank you
@@christophermcculley8318 Hi Chris. On Mountain Men, Tom Oar made a set of. beaver fur lined “mittens” (thumb and all four fingers). You might see if you can find that episode as there are some good shots of how he and Nancy did it.
What if any is the difference between using a stitch groove and a crease? Does it change the way the thread is protected?
If using a die that comes with stitch hole blades (instead of manually using pricking irons), can a stitch groover be run over those pre-made stitch holes or will that mess up the groover and/or leather?
If your blade is pretty sharp you might be ok but the groover will likely get stuck on each hole so the line could get a little wonky. We would maybe test it on a scrap piece and see how it does.
thanks, for the information, but I still don't know how to set the leather stitch groover, which I purchased from you with no instruction. Thanks
Hi there,
The groover comes with two tips, a flat tip that scribes the leather like a wing divider would and a blade tip that will actually remove a sliver of leather like in the video. You can swap out these tips using the allen wrench that comes with the tool. To adjust the guide arm, twist the knurled part of the tool that sits between the handle and the guide arm. This will loosen the guide arm and allow you to set your width. Once you've set the width, twist the knurled piece to tighten (see 4:24 in the video where Chuck loosens the knurled piece with pliers).
I noticed that you pulled the grover towards you. Not pushing it away, which ic the correct method?
Hello ! Thanks for the vidéo. Did you say "0,8 inch" or "0,18 inch" ? Thanks..
Do you groove before or after you dye your leather?
What type of leather to make saddle bags for a horse
someone gave me a set of tools since I really wanted to get started. My groover tool has the hole (cutter) on the arm, instead of on the center part of the tool. Does that indicate something about the quality of the tool? I have never gotten it to cut a spiral 'chip' the way you do, and I'm not really sure that I could put an edge on it again.
It shouldn't have anything to do with quality - we have seen both types of groovers but you may need to sharpen the blade. We'll link a video here that Chuck shows some ways to buff the blade. ruclips.net/video/phAeANzrP2w/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Thank you! Been having issues figuring this out. Wet or dry leather when doing this?
Hi Justin,
You'll want dry leather for using the stitch groover. Hope that helps!
@@WeaverLeatherSupply I figured so, so I went back and tried it again and I had the blade backwards! Thanks for the response.
Solid Video. Love your passion for your craft!
Have you done a project using water buffalo? If so, please let me know. I'm new to the leather world and still learning. I wanted to use it for small credit card wallets. Yes?
Hi Jady!
We've done a few videos with the chrome tanned water buffalo. We'll link them below so you can take a look at them. The videos we've done with the veg tanned water buffalo are some belt videos and the guitar strap video. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Purse: ruclips.net/p/PLzvwlO3D_z7eZwCDUQHqXCP6SDXjy4SEn
Laptop Bag: ruclips.net/video/tVWO4sCzk7o/видео.html
Guitar Strap: ruclips.net/video/PEOngDgZips/видео.html
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Awsome! Thanks so much!!
So what's the difference between the groover and a pair of calipers? Does the groover set the line deeper?
Hi Steve,
Yes, the groover actually removes some of the leather, so, the stitching sinks in a little bit deeper. Both will do the job for marking your stitch line, it's mostly personal preference on which tool you use.
Do you have to case the leather before you use the groove stitcher? Or would that make a huge mess?
We would recommend the leather be dry when using the groover.
1:41
Wont a creaser achieve the same improvement in terms of looks?
I tend to prefer a proper crease line than a grove that removes material
Thank you, Sir.
Thanks!
What did you use to sharpen the blade?
Hello, thanks for sharing. Where and how can I find the Jeweler Rouge? Any links? I am writing from Germany.
Hello Chuck, ty for your always great videos. you say in your video eighteen of an inch. Is this 0.18 inch? I´m working with cm so it must be then 0.45 cm, right? Ty for you answer :-)
Maybe an idea for next videos, write minimalKey facts in you description - for this video per example the used inch numbers and also in cm?
How to do it on softer leather?
Groovy baby, very groovy.
Great video. .thank you! What was the name of the solution you used for sharpening ( something.. rouge :D ). Thanks!
Hi there!
It's called jewelers rouge, or honing compound
Hi there again my favorite youtube video buddy, hey I have a question about a groover I got in a kit, well the groover I have has the metal guide & that has sharp tip on it, but the area where blades should go, mine is totally solid, have you ever seen any like this, if so, what are these actually used for, I mean there's no place to set any blades. I got it from Amazon in a kit named (Electop), thanks.
Hi Melody,
It's just made opposite of the one in the video, so you would use the guide arm to cut your groove and the middle section will be your guide. I've had a few of those throughout the years and it should work just fine.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Oh thanks for the tip, but I decided to purchase one like you use, i'm sure that i'll like it a lot more, thanks buddy.
Thanks for the info it was very helpful.
What brand of glue is best for leather
There are many brands and types of glue and it's usually personal preference but Barge is a great option for a contact cement that will hold extremely well. Fiebing's Leathercrafter's cement works great if you want to be able to reposition the product as you're gluing. Hope that helps!
Do I need to dampen the leather first?
You do not need to dampen the leather to use a stitch groover. Dry is best. Thanks!
Hey Chuck, well I do have a question or problem! I am not used to edge my leather, but it works most of the time. But right now I am trying to make super thin belts for my nephew, and I just can't get a nice edge on those things. What am I doing wrong?
Thomas! Thanks for asking, and I’m sorry to answer a question with a question but, I want to see if I can get some more information. How thin is the leather and what type of tannage? Also are you using an edger?
@@WeaverLeatherSupply well I did calculate it is 2.5 Oz. I am using an edger and a burnischer. I using water for the process. And the belts width of the belt is 0.35 inches. And it is veg tan. Hope I answered everything. And thanks in advance for your help. Cheers Thomas
Does it take a bit to learn to cut the leather rather than tear it? I just bought a groover from Tandy leather, and the first 1/4 inch of the groove line was pretty good - but then it just began to tear it up. This is my first attempt - what am I doing wrong?
Hello,
It shouldn't tear up the leather - it sounds like there's either a dull blade or maybe the blade has a burr on it. I would recommend contacting them and letting them know what its doing. Thanks!
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Thanks so much.
Can these groovers works the same on rubber sheets ..?
It’s going to depend on the material and the material surface. Since you asked I tried one on the Poundo Board we sell and it made a beautiful groove! I’m not sure of the durability outside of leather but it does cut a nice groove there.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply .. Thank you so much Mr. Chuck..
I'm so glad you've practically tried the groover onto a materiel I've asked for and even more happy to know that it worked beautifully.. Again thank you so much Sir.. 👍
Do you use a wing devider?
Hi Al,
I do use a wing divider occasionally, I just prefer to use the stitch groover whenever I can. This is just personal preference, a wing divider works great for marking stitch lines too!
How can I add more than color to a belt
Thank you
Groovy video man!
Hey can you groove suede leather? I tried and it seems to soft and moves around
Hi there!
Chromes can be tough to groove just because of how soft they are, I would suggest using a wing divider to mark your stitch line on soft leathers like suede.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply good tip thanks!
I can't seem to use the grover
Can we use creaser to make line that we sewing in? Groover takes out top grain and it is not the best to go, imo.
Hi Dmitriy,
Yes, you can use a creaser or wing divider to mark your stitch lines if you prefer not use a creaser. 👍
Staple from a common stapler will unplug your groover too.
How about us cowboys ? would love to see a western holster with lining made !!