I read somewhere that somewhere in the 60+ percent of golfers require some arc. I tried a face-balanced Yes! Carolyne over a decade ago. I didn't realize I was opening the face naturally through my takeaway, and by allowing the club to come through on its own, it stayed open. I missed away all the time and keeping the face square was nearly impossible. I'm not saying that everyone needs this though. I currently play a TM toe-hang forgiving mallet (Ardmore 3 with slant neck) and it's been a great move. I need it to rotate but some stability at impact would be appreciated.
Got mine off the shelf without the fitting! From one of the big box golf store in Canada. I just liked the concept. I am doing well with it but I wonder if I chose the right Seemore putter for me!
i mean i hate to debunk his theory, but at 2:18 hes not supporting the putter at all, he just lets it fall and the face opens. then at 2:47 hes holding the putter in a way that it wont let the face open, he didnt do it in the same way he held the first putter. so that to me doesnt tell me anything. i would like to think the second putters face would also open slightly like the first putter did.
The first putter isn’t face balanced at impact. The second one is, and I can assure you he isn’t. This isn’t a made up story 🤣😂 If you want to see it done by me, DM on social media, and I’ll show you with my putter (face balanced at impact).
I have a straight back and through stroke and have a plumb neck, double bend and centre shaft putter.....if I'm honest I put decent with all of them. What is important to me is what I feel comfortable with, the plumb neck blade just looks better to me even though it isn't suited to my stroke.
Interesting concept but feels more like a sales pitch - my Scottie is a wonderful club and don’t intend to swap it soon. Putting on the shoulder isn’t how I put and holding my putter even lightly doesn’t seem to cause it to rotate in the slightest? As for being milled in USA that seems a gimmick and although I’d be very careful buying a model mass produced in China I’m sure many putter brands have good enough milling. I still think that putter selection is a choice made from many different things and what appeals to one golfer doesn’t feel right in another golfers hands. It will be interesting to see what you select and whether it dramatically affects you’re putting but as always an interesting video Gary 👍🏌️⛳️
All I want people to take from this video, is if they’re in the market for a face balanced putter, to check how it sits at impact, as for many years, I’ve thought a face balanced putter to the sky was face balanced at impact. I putted great with my Scotty at the weekend, the new one arrives tomorrow. I did enjoy the simplicity of the setup and balance of the club, but I guess the results will be the test. Thanks
@@garymartingolf Didn’t mean to sound as critical as it read (apologies) I appreciate your videos and will be interested to see how you get on and also have a feel of one sometime. Keep up the great work - love the channel 👍
Almost I'd say, but not quite. I think that the Seemores in this video slightly open on takeaway and then close a little to get back square at impact. They don't stay square to the path through all of the stroke. What made me go for a L.A.B. MezzMax was these Seemores are quite unforgiving when you don't hit the middle. The difficulty with LABs is that you need to completely re-learn how to grip the club, because you should apply zero manipulation. Took me quite a couple of sessions to learn to trust the putter head doing the job for you. But I don't think I'll go back to another putter again.
@@nepheshr290 I read it as you tested some of your Toe Hang Putters AND some of your Center Shafted Putters because 1) Toe Hang Putters AREN'T Face Balanced. 2) Center Shafted Putters ARE Face Balanced.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 majority of centershafted putters are face balanced but not all, thats how Seemore creates the "face balance at impact" 90 degree toe hang with a center shaft
Been using the SeeMore now for 8 years - I will never part with it ... I fitted myself on their website- dropped 3 to 4 stokes a round easy with it... My putter is the Original FGP Milled ss303 ...
@@johnmartin4332 my stroke is strait back and strait through... I put on Bermuda and put to the break point as the grain dictates... I've made more 1 putts with my seemore than any other- in fact I sold my other putters ... I ordered my Seemore on line using their fitting guide - trust that alignment aid on the putter.....
You must take the clubhead acceleration into account. The clubhead isn't still at impact, it is accelerating down the swing path. If you have a short rapid stroke the acceleration g-force will straighten a face balanced head before impact, more so if the weight is further back in the clubhead. If you have a long slower accelerating arc the g-force is acting more outward making a toe heavy putter more stable. At least that is how I se it, I could be wrong. Continuing this thought process, a short fast stroke makes a facebalanced putter straighter at the cost of distance control, versus a slower accelerating long arc toe heavy putter having better distance control at the cost of directional precision. Which is more important, precision or distance control?
No need to focus strictly on face-balanced putters. Just imagine what a putter with toe-hang looks like at address... it'll be pointing backwards: opposite the target line!!
You'll never have confidence in your putting or putter no matter how much you spend until you receive a professional putter fitting and trust the findings.
Face Balancing is a COMPLETE MYTH. If you "balance" the face and the putter body is not balanced there is no balance. The body of the putter holds the majority of the weight of the club. If you don't balance the complete putter (body + face) the putter is NOT balanced.
Stop telling lies cause if it doesn't work for you doesn't mean other can't put with face ballance. Face ballance same my game and the reason I'm scratch golfer today cause of face ballance .
No putter opens up on impact unless you let go of the grip completey, if they were that good all the top your players would use them, Tiger Woods was the best putter in the world without this so called technology, I’m calling BS
Tiger was also the biggest practicer with the best stroke in the world. If you aren’t prepared to practice like Tiger, I can’t see an unbalanced blade being a great option.
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That makes so much sense!!! Face Balanced at IMPACT as the club lies for the actual stroke 💡
I’ve only just learnt that 🤦🏻😂
I read somewhere that somewhere in the 60+ percent of golfers require some arc. I tried a face-balanced Yes! Carolyne over a decade ago. I didn't realize I was opening the face naturally through my takeaway, and by allowing the club to come through on its own, it stayed open. I missed away all the time and keeping the face square was nearly impossible. I'm not saying that everyone needs this though. I currently play a TM toe-hang forgiving mallet (Ardmore 3 with slant neck) and it's been a great move. I need it to rotate but some stability at impact would be appreciated.
Got mine off the shelf without the fitting! From one of the big box golf store in Canada. I just liked the concept. I am doing well with it but I wonder if I chose the right Seemore putter for me!
It’s a great concept, I’m already in love with it 👌🏼
Thanks for bringing this to our attention Gaz, top drawer video
Thank TT
I love this video gaz I remember you mentioning this video when I was at Huddersfield
Thanks Dan 👍🏼
i love your channel good advice down to earth
Thanks David 👌🏼
And they have Left Handed.. 👍👍
A proper putter company 😅
i mean i hate to debunk his theory, but at 2:18 hes not supporting the putter at all, he just lets it fall and the face opens. then at 2:47 hes holding the putter in a way that it wont let the face open, he didnt do it in the same way he held the first putter. so that to me doesnt tell me anything. i would like to think the second putters face would also open slightly like the first putter did.
The first putter isn’t face balanced at impact. The second one is, and I can assure you he isn’t. This isn’t a made up story 🤣😂
If you want to see it done by me, DM on social media, and I’ll show you with my putter (face balanced at impact).
Brought one of the golf wraps after seeing your video . Outstanding wraps from Aksel golf . Thank you Gary .
No problem David, I were happy with mine too 🔥
Got a seemore ss one last year from Melvyn great putter 👍
I think that’s the one sam liked! Nice 👌🏼
I have a straight back and through stroke and have a plumb neck, double bend and centre shaft putter.....if I'm honest I put decent with all of them.
What is important to me is what I feel comfortable with, the plumb neck blade just looks better to me even though it isn't suited to my stroke.
I have a Face balanced at impact putter from SeeMore, but am unable to get a new replacement grip for it, can you recommend a shop? Much appreciated.
I thought you could buy them direct through their website?
Hi Gary, I haven't been able to see your fitting for See More Putters as described in this video??
It’s this one, thanks
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Interesting concept but feels more like a sales pitch - my Scottie is a wonderful club and don’t intend to swap it soon. Putting on the shoulder isn’t how I put and holding my putter even lightly doesn’t seem to cause it to rotate in the slightest? As for being milled in USA that seems a gimmick and although I’d be very careful buying a model mass produced in China I’m sure many putter brands have good enough milling. I still think that putter selection is a choice made from many different things and what appeals to one golfer doesn’t feel right in another golfers hands. It will be interesting to see what you select and whether it dramatically affects you’re putting but as always an interesting video Gary 👍🏌️⛳️
All I want people to take from this video, is if they’re in the market for a face balanced putter, to check how it sits at impact, as for many years, I’ve thought a face balanced putter to the sky was face balanced at impact.
I putted great with my Scotty at the weekend, the new one arrives tomorrow. I did enjoy the simplicity of the setup and balance of the club, but I guess the results will be the test.
Thanks
@@garymartingolf Didn’t mean to sound as critical as it read (apologies) I appreciate your videos and will be interested to see how you get on and also have a feel of one sometime. Keep up the great work - love the channel 👍
Gaz, have you tried the LAB putters?
No, I’ve not heard of them before. I’ll follow them on Instagram.
@@garymartingolf What are your thoughts about LAB putters? They are gaining in popularity..
@@primafacie6442 we’re 2 years wiser now! This videos history! 😂
Unless you have a face balanced CENTER shaft -right?
nice, look forward to the video of the fit should be very interesting
Thanks John 🤘🏻
What sort putter was used to Win The Open last week ?
Odyssey number 7
same old putter, I saw a putter I would like for you to review so I could make up my mind up on to buy it or not called the OG Spoiler putter.
Same concept as the L.A.B. Putters and makes a lot of sense🤔 Didn’t realise any other companies did this 👍🏻
So many people of mentioned lab, it’s the first time I’ve heard of them 👍🏼 I’ll keep an eye out for them.
Almost I'd say, but not quite. I think that the Seemores in this video slightly open on takeaway and then close a little to get back square at impact. They don't stay square to the path through all of the stroke. What made me go for a L.A.B. MezzMax was these Seemores are quite unforgiving when you don't hit the middle. The difficulty with LABs is that you need to completely re-learn how to grip the club, because you should apply zero manipulation. Took me quite a couple of sessions to learn to trust the putter head doing the job for you. But I don't think I'll go back to another putter again.
I got the copy of Payne stewart one that has his profile and autograph and gold grip
I didn’t know he used one. I didn’t actually know seemore had been around that long. Nice!
Kinda neat, tested some of my toe hang center shafted putters and some were face balanced at impact, ☺
Brilliant 👌🏼 it makes sence doesn’t it. I’ve no idea why they’d face balance then to the sky lol
Let me guess. The Center Shafted, Correct?
@@apaulmcdonough2170 yes my toe hang center shafted putters were center shafted
@@nepheshr290 I read it as you tested some of your Toe Hang Putters AND some of your Center Shafted Putters because 1) Toe Hang Putters AREN'T Face Balanced. 2) Center Shafted Putters ARE Face Balanced.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 majority of centershafted putters are face balanced but not all, thats how Seemore creates the "face balance at impact" 90 degree toe hang with a center shaft
Original model won the 99 US Open and the 2007 Masters
You know your history 👌🏼
LAB putters are the same concept and also Honu putters as well
I’ll follow Honu, never herd of them.
Been using the SeeMore now for 8 years - I will never part with it ... I fitted myself on their website- dropped 3 to 4 stokes a round easy with it... My putter is the Original FGP Milled ss303 ...
That’s quality! I’m going to try and stick with this now, I’m fully behind the theory.
I have a SeeMore Pure Center Blade but have not gotten consistent with it. Do you arc your back stroke or come back straight? Just curious. Thanks
@@johnmartin4332 my stroke is strait back and strait through... I put on Bermuda and put to the break point as the grain dictates... I've made more 1 putts with my seemore than any other- in fact I sold my other putters ... I ordered my Seemore on line using their fitting guide - trust that alignment aid on the putter.....
Wish I had known you were at my course I would have had a chat
I started golf there ⛳️
Interesting, not heard of these guys before 👍
Really 😳 Top putters
You must take the clubhead acceleration into account. The clubhead isn't still at impact, it is accelerating down the swing path. If you have a short rapid stroke the acceleration g-force will straighten a face balanced head before impact, more so if the weight is further back in the clubhead. If you have a long slower accelerating arc the g-force is acting more outward making a toe heavy putter more stable. At least that is how I se it, I could be wrong. Continuing this thought process, a short fast stroke makes a facebalanced putter straighter at the cost of distance control, versus a slower accelerating long arc toe heavy putter having better distance control at the cost of directional precision. Which is more important, precision or distance control?
I’d love to see a video explaining this, it’s not a theory I’ve heard before, but I’d love to know more to widen my knowledge.
It seems that LAB Golf has taken these concepts to the next level....
Lab Golf looks great 🔥
Where is the fitting centre
Got a cracking radius putter that would suit u mate
Ahahaha 😂
Forget L.A.B. or SeeMore, go for affordable Bell if you understand what you need.
I’d never heard of bell putters. They look decent, but not sure about affordable. Still expensive.
@@garymartingolf SeeMore seem decent bit i could not find upright 79 deg lie putters with desired specs.
A putter that's balanced at a 45 to 90 deg angle with the head perpendicular to the ground. Anyone else have questions about this?
What angle do you want it to be balanced too 😅
LAB is where it’s at!
So many people of mentioned lab, it’s the first time I’ve heard of them 👍🏼 I’ll keep an eye out for them.
Almost all of them are centre shaft....and that is definitely the way to go.
No need to focus strictly on face-balanced putters. Just imagine what a putter with toe-hang looks like at address... it'll be pointing backwards: opposite the target line!!
You'll never have confidence in your putting or putter no matter how much you spend until you receive a professional putter fitting and trust the findings.
That is one of the more ridiculous things I've heard a golfer say in some time
Can they bring out a new model called Butz
What a joke. There is no science that backs this infomercial up.
2-piece, screw together shaft??? I don’t think that’s a very good idea. For 250, put a proper shaft on it. Grips are simple to install.
Face Balancing is a COMPLETE MYTH. If you "balance" the face and the putter body is not balanced there is no balance. The body of the putter holds the majority of the weight of the club. If you don't balance the complete putter (body + face) the putter is NOT balanced.
Sounds kinda like a LAB putter
Hwhaat!? Lol to each their own... i have face balanced, toe hangin, and what i call off balanced.. u play the club in your hand.
Absolutely nonsense. Please don't take this to any count whatsoever. Go-ahead Gary keep these fools in the 4th Flight.
Please explain?
Stop telling lies cause if it doesn't work for you doesn't mean other can't put with face ballance.
Face ballance same my game and the reason I'm scratch golfer today cause of face ballance .
No putter opens up on impact unless you let go of the grip completey, if they were that good all the top your players would use them, Tiger Woods was the best putter in the world without this so called technology, I’m calling BS
Tiger was also the biggest practicer with the best stroke in the world. If you aren’t prepared to practice like Tiger, I can’t see an unbalanced blade being a great option.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.... That's how many times you said yeah in 30 seconds..... 😴😴😴😴
You know 😆