Argerich transforms the pianoforte into a mandolin with the Scarlatti Sonata. She is totally in a realm of musicianship which has no peers. Brava, Martha!!
Probably so. The action on the keyboards of his time were nowhere near what they are today, and playing notes this quickly and with this delicate of a touch would have been impossible.
@@snufflehound One cannot argue Argerich's tempo having in mind all of her technique, dynamics, and--most important--tenderness in her fast-moving fingers
I love that lady in the emerald green blouse. The look on her face! She has the perfect angle to see Martha's amazing hands close up, and you can tell she really appreciates her fortune, and is enjoying such a treasured moment.
The clarity of the musical ideas - textures, colors, subtle differentiation in tempo between phrases and sections, awareness of register, active and static harmonic areas... this is Baroque music.
I am always glad to hear her play after reading comments about how lang lang is the greatest or other equally 2nd rate pianists. This person is truly one of the greats. Period!
You may not care for his stage persona or particular interpretations of his, but Lang Lang is no second rate pianist, both technically and artistically. Your statement that he is a second rate pianist is simply ignorant. bravado. Period!
@@snufflehound I'll politely disagree with you. What does one interpret 2nd rate to mean? Not amongst the very best is what I'd generously interpret that as. Does langlang deserved to be mentioned as the equal of Argerich, Gould, Hough, or Horowitz and many more? Not in my book. How about more modern performers?. Yundi Li, helene Grimaud and most certainly Yevgeny Kissin are all better Pianists than LL. Lang lang is popular and a commercial success but that doesn't make him better. I give you Britney spears. So is Langlang second rate? On his best day if he's lucky.
@@jjmcoupebmw6557 Fair enough. But you will agree that Lang Lang's popular commercial success, in itself, does not make him "worse". I give you Yuja Wang, while flouting conventional standards of good taste and decorum in her attire, is top notch and very popular (due in no small part to her provocative dress). It all boils down to highly personal views of what the composer intended and what is persuasive to the modern listener. I doubt Beethoven would have approved of some of Gould's idiosyncratic sonata renderings, but I enjoy many if not all of them. Ranking first tier pianists as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, class etc is meaningless and presumptive (and I would argue arrogant, no offense intended). So we agree to disagree.
Also back in the day, Horowitz and Rubinstein were worshipped, were (and rightfully remain) extremely popular, and were considered peerless. So was Michelangeli even slightly "worse" than Horowitz, and therefore not "the very best"? Did that make him and all the other superb but less familiar pianists of the day - Feinberg, Cherkassky, Lipatti, etc - "second class"?
@@snufflehound You're point is taken and it is perhaps pointless to rank all of these amazing performers. BTW I was never a huge Horowitz fan nor do I like many of the things Gould did, Bach obviously not being one of them. However,my issue is perhaps more inline with your own thinking than you might have taken away from my initial post or that I didn't communicate clearly. It is the very fact that so many people, often with limited experience of the classical world, make bold claims that lang lang is the best ever which bugs me. For starters he is too young to be worthy of such an accolade and surely he has a host of phenomenal performs he would have to best. As you alluded to , how would one even go about quantifying greatness. Thank you for mentioning Cherkassky. I'll have to go digging through my old CD's, but there is the most amazing rendition of Islamey in there somewhere. For now I'll just butcher my way through it till I find the recording.
@@ludwigvanbeethoven7045 ooops yes I DID sound as if I was saying she was playing in heaven - I should have said her playing IS heavenly or something to that effect. I'm WELL aware that is still VERY much alive!! And we are the better off for it for sure. Play on Martha!!!
Martha is a unique genius. She is so loved all over the world. She is without question the greatest pianist (man or woman) who has ever lived. We are so lucky to live in this Maestra's time. I wish Bach and Scarlatti could hear these two performances.
+David Demers. I totally agree with you. No doubt she is the greatest pianist of all times. Bach and Scarlatti should have been amazed if they could have listened to this. They would have composed pieces specially for her! We love Martha.
The piano action is only part of the equation. It takes absolutely perfect timing with your fingers to execute the repeated notes at this tempo. Martha's fingers work better than 99% of the most elite concert pianists, in my opinion.
Sovrannatural talent. I'm quite sure she doesn't even know how is it possible. I mean, is it just the result of a neverending practice? Absolutely not!
3:06 - did she really start the second encore about 3 seconds after finishing the first? Or was the film cut? Rather odd - most pianists take a few bows, disappear for a while and then come back - this was almost as though she was in a hurry to get it over with!
Fore non hai mai ascoltato Gould, Sokolov, parlando di Bach, e poi non è certo la velocità a fare un grande musicista, ci sono giovani pianisti coreani dalla velocità pazzesca che ci farebbero un grande favore se non suonasero e facessero altro, e Pollini con gli studi di Chopin (Deutsche Grammophone) che ho sentito dal vivo alla stessa velocità e grande interpretazione del disco, e forse dimentichi Horowitz giovane, la Argherich è una grandissima ma del suo tempo c'era un certo Benedetti Michelangeli che guardava tutti dall'alto e vai ad acoltare il suo Scarlatti e capirai perchè i grandi pianisti compresa la Argherich lo consideravano inarrivabile!
her tempo completely changes bythe end of the partita -- is this supposed to happen? idk ive never heard it, its just such a huge difference in tempo, still sounds beautiful though
I just have wonder why someone did not help her pick more appropriate garments and a hairstyle so you could see her face. As marvelous as she is she deserves to look glamorous at least somewhat, after all she is the greatest pianist ever!!!!!!!
Ah, these were the good old days when she whipped up virtuosic encores after a concerto. What a treat . Both are her favorite encores to play. Nowadays you'll probably got Schumann Von fremden Ländern or a Chopin Mazurka in c.
Is that the appropriate tempo for the sonata... or is It the tempo of a virtuoso player? Should pianists be more respectful to the tempi of the period? Or you can "create" your own vision of any piece disregarding the uses of those times?
Oh, such a speed would not be achievable in the day of the harpsichord because the action could not handle repeated notes. Most of the time any sane person would dismiss a performance because it is played for the sake of being fast, but in this case, when she is playing so fast and so clearly that the piano can hardly keep up, it is at least impressive. Scarlatti himself would certainly be entertained by it.
I think you can as long as the music keeps its value. The music is already gonna be different as it’s played on piano not on harpsichord. And tempos change, I mean if you listen to old recordings many tempos are way faster, and there is way more rubato involved.
Fantastic pianistically, but she played everything too fast. The Scarlatti is such a beautiful piece, and when Horowitz played it he tore your heart out.
The Scarlatti is ok, but she butchers the Capriccio by Bach: waaaay too fast! To me, David Fray plays it the best---it is at least 20 seconds or more slower than Argerich's Bach. Granted, she hits every single note correctly, and with great understanding of the music...but it is just too fast!
It may not be to your taste...I also don't like rushed playing. But that's not what Martha does at all. She plays the pieces with temperament but extremely subtle, understanding and masterful! With nuances few can play.
Argerich transforms the pianoforte into a mandolin with the Scarlatti Sonata. She is totally in a realm of musicianship which has no peers. Brava, Martha!!
it`s almost NOT a piano sound. It`s something else I cannot tell. Pure magic.
Yeah, it's crap.
@gfgf fgff Fuck you
Yes, the sound goes straight to the limbic system. It´s sublime. Some pieces by Beethoven, Liszt and Bach do the same to me.
I think Scarlatti himself had no idea his music could sound like this
Probably so. The action on the keyboards of his time were nowhere near what they are today, and playing notes this quickly and with this delicate of a touch would have been impossible.
Probably because he never intended it so. Performance is not a speed contest.
@@snufflehound One cannot argue Argerich's tempo having in mind all of her technique, dynamics, and--most important--tenderness in her fast-moving fingers
Ahahahah 🤣🤣🤣
@@snufflehound she isn’t competing though😊
Such a rare gift.... All day, all night... watch and listen to Martha Argerich play... keeps me going.
The way she performs that Scarlatti piece and still manages to do her hair while playing, like it’s nothing. Just amazing!
I love that lady in the emerald green blouse. The look on her face! She has the perfect angle to see Martha's amazing hands close up, and you can tell she really appreciates her fortune, and is enjoying such a treasured moment.
The woman next to her was falling asleep.
I would have loved a camera angle on her hands!!
Just a blur...
The clarity of the musical ideas - textures, colors, subtle differentiation in tempo between phrases and sections, awareness of register, active and static harmonic areas... this is Baroque music.
She’s simply my living baroque hero: Technique which makes seem everything so easy, intelligent interpretations and always going so deep to the heart…
I am always glad to hear her play after reading comments about how lang lang is the greatest or other equally 2nd rate pianists. This person is truly one of the greats. Period!
You may not care for his stage persona or particular interpretations of his, but Lang Lang is no second rate pianist, both technically and artistically. Your statement that he is a second rate pianist is simply ignorant. bravado. Period!
@@snufflehound
I'll politely disagree with you. What does one interpret 2nd rate to mean? Not amongst the very best is what I'd generously interpret that as. Does langlang deserved to be mentioned as the equal of Argerich, Gould, Hough, or Horowitz and many more? Not in my book. How about more modern performers?. Yundi Li, helene Grimaud and most certainly Yevgeny Kissin are all better Pianists than LL. Lang lang is popular and a commercial success but that doesn't make him better. I give you Britney spears.
So is Langlang second rate? On his best day if he's lucky.
@@jjmcoupebmw6557 Fair enough. But you will agree that Lang Lang's popular commercial success, in itself, does not make him "worse". I give you Yuja Wang, while flouting conventional standards of good taste and decorum in her attire, is top notch and very popular (due in no small part to her provocative dress). It all boils down to highly personal views of what the composer intended and what is persuasive to the modern listener. I doubt Beethoven would have approved of some of Gould's idiosyncratic sonata renderings, but I enjoy many if not all of them. Ranking first tier pianists as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, class etc is meaningless and presumptive (and I would argue arrogant, no offense intended). So we agree to disagree.
Also back in the day, Horowitz and Rubinstein were worshipped, were (and rightfully remain) extremely popular, and were considered peerless. So was Michelangeli even slightly "worse" than Horowitz, and therefore not "the very best"? Did that make him and all the other superb but less familiar pianists of the day - Feinberg, Cherkassky, Lipatti, etc - "second class"?
@@snufflehound
You're point is taken and it is perhaps pointless to rank all of these amazing performers. BTW I was never a huge Horowitz fan nor do I like many of the things Gould did, Bach obviously not being one of them. However,my issue is perhaps more inline with your own thinking than you might have taken away from my initial post or that I didn't communicate clearly.
It is the very fact that so many people, often with limited experience of the classical world, make bold claims that lang lang is the best ever which bugs me. For starters he is too young to be worthy of such an accolade and surely he has a host of phenomenal performs he would have to best. As you alluded to , how would one even go about quantifying greatness.
Thank you for mentioning Cherkassky. I'll have to go digging through my old CD's, but there is the most amazing rendition of Islamey in there somewhere. For now I'll just butcher my way through it till I find the recording.
I wonder if those who put a thumbs down on this magnificent piece and artist can play it as well as Martha. I doubt it! She is awesome!
She must be playing in heaven - is this even humanly possible? Prodigious never ending talent.
David Bee ? She is still alive
She had her 80th birthday a few days ago on 5th June 2021, and is, as always, completely amazing!
@@joycebudenberg6221 I should have said that her playing is heavenly : ) Yes she IS completely amazing !!!!
@@ludwigvanbeethoven7045 ooops yes I DID sound as if I was saying she was playing in heaven - I should have said her playing IS heavenly or something to that effect. I'm WELL aware that is still VERY much alive!! And we are the better off for it for sure. Play on Martha!!!
It was a famous encore. And now, when listening it I wish it would not end.. encore 😌. Gracias maestro!
We are so rich so hear these interpretations that come from a woman who seems to be from another world - but alas she is only human...aren't we lucky?
I wouldn't exactly refer to her as a human...
Martha is a Goddess, plain and simple.
She is lucky
The Bach is beautifully treated with dynamics wizardry and perfectly executed accents on the syncopated notes! Speed is just an after thought.
Martha is a unique genius. She is so loved all over the world. She is without question the greatest pianist (man or woman) who has ever lived. We are so lucky to live in this Maestra's time. I wish Bach and Scarlatti could hear these two performances.
David Demers i prefer arthur Rubinstein shes great to byt arthur rubinstein is my absolute favorite
+David Demers. I totally agree with you. No doubt she is the greatest pianist of all times. Bach and Scarlatti should have been amazed if they could have listened to this. They would have composed pieces specially for her! We love Martha.
Martha is above amazing and that piano must be quite something too ... it has to have the action to enable that kind of speed in the first place.
The piano action is only part of the equation. It takes absolutely perfect timing with your fingers to execute the repeated notes at this tempo. Martha's fingers work better than 99% of the most elite concert pianists, in my opinion.
Argerich has been a Steinway artist since 1967 so it most probably is a Steinway piano
One of the great pianists of the 20th Century
I'd say one of the all time greatest, certainly in recorded history, I saw her live a few years back, absolutely stunning, a true genuis.
MAY BE THE BEST
2:40
*casually fixes hair before starting next section*
Magnificent virtuosity, as expected from this artist.
The performance of the Capriccioso is transcendental.
Sovrannatural talent. I'm quite sure she doesn't even know how is it possible. I mean, is it just the result of a neverending practice? Absolutely not!
There's no such thing as "just" if you're a great artist. I remember Horowitz's incomparable magical encores.
fantastica!!!!musica allo stato puro!!!!
CLARINET- TIAMO
Piano must have unbelievable action! The response is nothing like the pianos I have played on, but admittedly I am a rank amateur as a pianist.
Combination of a good piano action and breathtaking finger action!
JEEEEEZ. unreal and amazing.
The one and only
High point! straordinariamente geniale, bravissima
when was this taken? seems at her 50s. a true artist. every note is soooooo clear.
2001, Zurich
Bravo Martha!! Brilliant as always.
The speed with such articulation is unparalleled
Awesome Argerich!...Thanks Martha!
SIEMPRE BRILLANTE .-.-.-
Perfection.
She has a very powerful and efficient cerebellum, what else can I say?????......
My God, pure Genius❗️
8th wonder of the world. A Goddess in human form.
That old man behind her back with his mouth open))
Thank you for pointing him out -- very sweet!
3:06 - did she really start the second encore about 3 seconds after finishing the first? Or was the film cut? Rather odd - most pianists take a few bows, disappear for a while and then come back - this was almost as though she was in a hurry to get it over with!
It was obviously cut because the applause ended abruptly and it went to another clip.
The video is cut :)
La Argerich vuole come al solito impressionare l'ascoltatore, a totale discapito della chiarezza, del canto e della bellezza
Otro soreteli opinando...
I came for Scarlatti then I came again for Bach ;)
ela é tão foda, toca tão maginificamente bem que o erro(s) que ela comete neesse video passam quase despercebido
Those r the fastest versions I've ever heard n yet she makes playing at breakneck speed looks effortless..whatt
she nearly set the piano ablaze with that speed lol..i dont think ive seen or heard anyone who has a faster reflex than Argerich at the keys.
Fore non hai mai ascoltato Gould, Sokolov, parlando di Bach, e poi non è certo la velocità a fare un grande musicista, ci sono giovani pianisti coreani dalla velocità pazzesca che ci farebbero un grande favore se non suonasero e facessero altro, e Pollini con gli studi di Chopin (Deutsche Grammophone) che ho sentito dal vivo alla stessa velocità e grande interpretazione del disco, e forse dimentichi Horowitz giovane, la Argherich è una grandissima ma del suo tempo c'era un certo Benedetti Michelangeli che guardava tutti dall'alto e vai ad acoltare il suo Scarlatti e capirai perchè i grandi pianisti compresa la Argherich lo consideravano inarrivabile!
BRAVO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tHANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
her tempo completely changes bythe end of the partita -- is this supposed to happen? idk ive never heard it, its just such a huge difference in tempo, still sounds beautiful though
me sitting there I would be like WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
That elderly gentleman directly to the right of her head is exactly like WTFFFFFFF
Magic.
Maravilhosa; Sugito que seja, colocadas as datasdos eventos
Mágica, genia total ❤👏👏👏
Is this fast forwarded?
不知道这是阿姐什么年代的演奏?太棒了!感谢分享!
In awe
é a Martha sendo a Martha.
Just trying to figure if una coda was used in capriccio
I just have wonder why someone did not help her pick more appropriate garments and a hairstyle so you could see her face. As marvelous as she is she deserves to look glamorous at least somewhat, after all she is the greatest pianist ever!!!!!!!
Artists are weird that way. They can’t be tamed and are better left in their elements.
Massacre. La 141 est-elle un circuit de F1 ??????
Wonderful! Can somebody please tell me the name of the second piece?
Bach Partita in C minor, BWV 826 3:09
More precisely, the Capriccio.
Thank you!
Ah, these were the good old days when she whipped up virtuosic encores after a concerto. What a treat . Both are her favorite encores to play. Nowadays you'll probably got Schumann Von fremden Ländern or a Chopin Mazurka in c.
Oh but her Mazurkas are delightful.
素晴らしい
if i were those grandpas and grandmas down there, i'm afraid my teeth might fall out hearing the scarlatti,
Her use of dynamics !!!
the best
wow!!!!!
すげ〜
Does she ever play Scarlatti at 'normal' speed?
¡ De pie !
greatest
...when your Latin soul threatens to overflow ... 3:58
0:05
good!!!!!!!
Where, when please?
cameraman doesn't film hands... why
She dyed her hair black.I feel like keeping long and untidy hair like her.
Grosa! 👏👏👏
Is that the appropriate tempo for the sonata... or is It the tempo of a virtuoso player? Should pianists be more respectful to the tempi of the period? Or you can "create" your own vision of any piece disregarding the uses of those times?
Oh, such a speed would not be achievable in the day of the harpsichord because the action could not handle repeated notes. Most of the time any sane person would dismiss a performance because it is played for the sake of being fast, but in this case, when she is playing so fast and so clearly that the piano can hardly keep up, it is at least impressive. Scarlatti himself would certainly be entertained by it.
I think you can as long as the music keeps its value. The music is already gonna be different as it’s played on piano not on harpsichord. And tempos change, I mean if you listen to old recordings many tempos are way faster, and there is way more rubato involved.
nonchalance +technique+speed+ i can fo wtf i want+female+wonderfull fingers= M. Argerich
wish
Again only date of the download & not the date of the performance. Frustrating & the single camera angle leaves me cold.
Recording from 2001
Fantastic pianistically, but she played everything too fast. The Scarlatti is such a beautiful piece, and when Horowitz played it he tore your heart out.
It's just an encore. "Alright, I'll play something so you stop kissing my ass."
I have never heard Horowitz play this sonata. I cannot find it in the repertoire that Glenn Plaskin lists in his biography of Horowitz either.
It's in the Horowitz Scarlatti record.
Which record? He recorded Scarlatti many times. Is it here on youtube?
He came out with an all-Scarlatti record on CBS in 1964. And was actually coached by Ralph Kirpatrick for it. Whether it's on You Tube I don't know.
Good, but 20 years later she played it better, having left virtuosity behind and fully embraced the music.
I don’t think so
I can't do anything against that 🙂
The Scarlatti is ok, but she butchers the Capriccio by Bach: waaaay too fast! To me, David Fray plays it the best---it is at least 20 seconds or more slower than Argerich's Bach. Granted, she hits every single note correctly, and with great understanding of the music...but it is just too fast!
Tasteless rushed playing.
It may not be to your taste...I also don't like rushed playing. But that's not what Martha does at all. She plays the pieces with temperament but extremely subtle, understanding and masterful! With nuances few can play.
disgusting disrespect for the composer and the music itself. She's turned it into the Woodpecker Etude.
it's really shitty speed and unbalanced.
Show us your video doing it better then.
you can listen well, without playing. if you are not deaf.
matt 1910b lolololol. U poor no nothing