His playing is amazing he just seems like kind of a douche personally to me. Idk, I've never met the guy, I could be wrong. I can get past that and enjoy his great playing.
@@elkandweirddreams You are wrong, I've met and played with the man. One of the best musicians I've had the pleasure of being around and an insanely nice and caring individual. I think in his youth he made many controversial statements about how music should be and how jazz should be interpreted. I believe those were simply comments made by a younger more immature musician.
Someone said today on a forum, they had never heard Wynton play with heart just technical. Well they have no soul because that fkn blows my mind. I listen to Miles and Dizzy all the time - never heard anybody play like this. And yeah, drummer is a god on that set - his time and feel is sick awesome.
+C Davis Oh, I think that sometimes Wynton does shred for the sake of shredding, but seriously, who can blame him, if I could improvise that fast I'd be shredding all the time for the fun of it. If you want to see an example of this, look up Wynton playing Autumn Leaves, it's almost funny.
this is exactly how I feel. when he plays it sounds super impressive and I love it in that sense but I never feel anything when he plays. Not a single thing
@@UkuleleAversion you just dont have the ears to listen for good ideas yet, this is definitely not just shredding at all, everything he played was unique and amazing
Some people are corny. They say the same thing about Art Tatum and other Jazz masters who have achieved technical mastery on their instrument. I'm personally bored with that tired, retread talking point. I just enjoy the playing, and ignore the benchwarmers.
As with a lot of that sort of criticism I think it's rooted in some generally valid criticism taken too far. Is WM one of the greatest trumpet players of all time? Probably. Does WM rely heavily on technical inventiveness to make his playing interesting and relevant? Maybe, it's hard to say. I know that he has a bit of a history of being somewhat antagonistic towards jazz from after the mid-50s and is generally more interested in perfecting jazz (or whatever "perfecting" means in his mind) rather than developing it, so that in and of itself is going to give me a negative impression of him as a musical mind. I see it this way: It's not that WM's playing lacks heart, but moreso that he's become hooked on this idea that the only way to make your playing powerful and relevant is to be monstrously technically inventive. Which is one way, sure, but not the only way.
those who are hating on WM needs to listen to more of his stuff. It seems as if you guy's have only listened to his "technical" stuff, and haven't tried to go deeper into his music.
his music doesnt matter. he shits on miles davis for moving on from strict acoustic jazz despite taking most of his sound from miles, wynton marsalis' entire career is built off holding back the development of jazz to suit his own aesthetic taste and he will only benefit the industry the day he dies
Marsalis is an incredible player, composer, and and most important a stern advocate for social justice change! Thanks for this amazing solo performance on “Cherokee”!
Wonderful playing and very inventive. You can hear the spirits of Clifford and Freddie in there along with Navarro. Love how the pianist catches some of his phrases too. Magnificent
4:28 he goes "wooow!" - from 2:22 to right about 2:30 that motherfucker is holding a single breath and doing what is in my opnion the most incredible up and down thingy that I've ever seen
I know people talk shit about wynton but i'm sorry, the cat is a monster and that's all there is to it. He's different, he's got a big ego, he's high on his own chops, who cares look at him go!
The thing is, with Wynton Marsalis playing some really complex material for a few minutes without the harmony, it is easy to forget the AABA form, i.e., you have THREE As in a roll. That being said, the pianist did play both As when bass and piano joined the drummer. But the pianist was just suggesting the chords, which is totally fine. When Wynton Marsalis went to part B, the pianist was on it, but he was once again just suggesting the chords. I don't think he didn't know where the music was. But because he was somewhat hesitant, perhaps Wynton thought he was lost and said "B!". You can see that the pianist changed the way he was playing very abruptly, now really showing the chords more firmly. I liked what he was doing before, actually. In any case, Marsalis solo is just mind blowing. Absolutely outstanding.
Impressive technique. Great solo. I don't care that much for his music and don't agree w/ his views on what Jazz is or isn't, but he sure can play. Now I agree he might have 'too much technique' and not enough emotion in his playing, but I can still appreciate his playing, even if I prefer many other trumpet players over him.
Sorry I misunderstood. Wynton does have a pretty big ego but since this is only 6 minutes of the concert I would like to think the other band members got their turn to shine.
Much better than the 1943 Parker version, that was boring, standard and didn't really have much feel, I like the Brown/Roach 1955 version, Marsalis is a bit too progressive/bebop for me.. but not to down his talent at all... I don't play, just listen to a lot of music/styles
What Chet said of Wynton: "All technique, no soul." Sorry, but can't contradict that. This was indeed an awesome performance, right up there at the tippermost pinnacle of showoffery. But that's all it was. Emotionally? Nothing. So if I want to actually FEEL something, something of depth in a jazz trumpet performance, gimme Pops, Miles, Clifford, Kenny, Donald Byrd, and a few others. Just don't give me Wynton. Dunno, it's like a computer could feel as much. Curiously, my sense is he'd have made a much better drummer, his rhythmic instincts downright uncanny. His melodic sense? Not so much.
Personally, I don't understand this. I hear people say this very thing about Wynton often, but it's as if they never heard him to begin with? I hear absurds amounts of emotion. I get carried away listening to this and I really just do not understand how someone says there is no emotion in this solo. There absolutely is! Also listen to Wynton play any ballad.
anyone that says this hasn’t listened to enough of wynton. I agree he has music that’s all technique and he’s clearly trying to show off, but he also has loads of music that’s beautiful and full of soul and emotion
Sorry guys but his performance isn't soulful enough for this tune. Quite a lot of running licks that are absolutely unimaginative, loads of awkward stops, many weird successions of ideas that are fine by themselves but don't match together and an intensity in blowing that often doesn't fit Cherokee very well. He could sincerely give a rest to his chops and vary the dynamic a bit. And I'm sincerely not a hater of him. Couple of good part though.
![Wynton Marsalis | Cherokee [solo transcription] Bern, 1993](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kj-sqraJ4gk/mqdefault.jpg)
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At least three moments in here show you exactly why Wynton is he is. Pretty much untouchable perfection.
EXACTLY.
I don't want to hear NOBODY talk ish about Wynton Marsalis ANYMORE!
This was amazing!!!!
Holy shit! That drummer is GOOD!!!!!!
I dont understand musicians that dont love this man. How can you not recognize the level of Genius!
This plus hes an amazing human being
I used to be a WM hater but as a trumpet player, you can't help but appreciate Wynton's technique and elegant ideas.
His technique is fantastic and I think even though I'm not the biggest fan, there is a lot of what he does that I appreciate!
Back in school I think it was envogue to hate on him, probably due to the fact that we were fucking idiots.
His playing is amazing he just seems like kind of a douche personally to me. Idk, I've never met the guy, I could be wrong. I can get past that and enjoy his great playing.
@@elkandweirddreams You are wrong, I've met and played with the man. One of the best musicians I've had the pleasure of being around and an insanely nice and caring individual. I think in his youth he made many controversial statements about how music should be and how jazz should be interpreted. I believe those were simply comments made by a younger more immature musician.
@@TheAaronRodgersTao yup. I was a complete moron. No clue what I was talking about.
Ok Wynton Marsalis is amazing. we get that. but can we acknowledge that fuckin drummer?! That man is a master
+Nick Carrick True. The beginning is pretty much a duet: Marsalis and whoever is the motherf.. on drums.
+vulvatronic Can anyone tell the name of the drummer?
+vulvatronic Herlin Riley! He is a beast. Nice guy too.
Herlin is the fuckin man. New Orleans cat. One of the true masters.
the drummer is what beats it
Someone said today on a forum, they had never heard Wynton play with heart just technical. Well they have no soul because that fkn blows my mind. I listen to Miles and Dizzy all the time - never heard anybody play like this. And yeah, drummer is a god on that set - his time and feel is sick awesome.
+C Davis Oh, I think that sometimes Wynton does shred for the sake of shredding, but seriously, who can blame him, if I could improvise that fast I'd be shredding all the time for the fun of it. If you want to see an example of this, look up Wynton playing Autumn Leaves, it's almost funny.
this is exactly how I feel. when he plays it sounds super impressive and I love it in that sense but I never feel anything when he plays. Not a single thing
@@UkuleleAversion you just dont have the ears to listen for good ideas yet, this is definitely not just shredding at all, everything he played was unique and amazing
Some people are corny. They say the same thing about Art Tatum and other Jazz masters who have achieved technical mastery on their instrument.
I'm personally bored with that tired, retread talking point. I just enjoy the playing, and ignore the benchwarmers.
As with a lot of that sort of criticism I think it's rooted in some generally valid criticism taken too far. Is WM one of the greatest trumpet players of all time? Probably. Does WM rely heavily on technical inventiveness to make his playing interesting and relevant? Maybe, it's hard to say. I know that he has a bit of a history of being somewhat antagonistic towards jazz from after the mid-50s and is generally more interested in perfecting jazz (or whatever "perfecting" means in his mind) rather than developing it, so that in and of itself is going to give me a negative impression of him as a musical mind.
I see it this way: It's not that WM's playing lacks heart, but moreso that he's become hooked on this idea that the only way to make your playing powerful and relevant is to be monstrously technically inventive. Which is one way, sure, but not the only way.
You know....sometimes a musician in a lifetime comes along......then there's Wynton!
Amazing!
At 5:28 he's like, "I'm a fuckin' BEAST"
absolutely insane trumpeting!
just heard this.. Wow., Wynton at his best!
Blessings Brother Wynton !!!
This guy never misses.
those who are hating on WM needs to listen to more of his stuff. It seems as if you guy's have only listened to his "technical" stuff, and haven't tried to go deeper into his music.
his music doesnt matter. he shits on miles davis for moving on from strict acoustic jazz despite taking most of his sound from miles, wynton marsalis' entire career is built off holding back the development of jazz to suit his own aesthetic taste and he will only benefit the industry the day he dies
Marsalis is an incredible player, composer, and and most important a stern advocate for social justice change! Thanks for this amazing solo performance on “Cherokee”!
Wynton is a #BEAST!!!!
OUTSTANDING. WYNTON IS A TRUMPET PLAYING GOD!
The drummer is a Genius!
Thank you for posting. Definitely one of the best trumpet players of all time.
Great trombone solo!
Wonderful playing and very inventive. You can hear the spirits of Clifford and Freddie in there along with Navarro. Love how the pianist catches some of his phrases too. Magnificent
4:28 he goes "wooow!" - from 2:22 to right about 2:30 that motherfucker is holding a single breath and doing what is in my opnion the most incredible up and down thingy that I've ever seen
I think it is a high E on 2:27. Needless to say, a naturally detuned overtone. Simply brilliant. That passage is a work of art in itself.
Level of genius
OMG Wynton is a god!!!!! love his lick at 1:49
The brush work is incredible man. It was so good I couldn't focus on Wynton's solo.
Absolutely Fantastic!!!!!!!
Yes, it is!
I was there
The ghosts of Clifford and Max....
I know people talk shit about wynton but i'm sorry, the cat is a monster and that's all there is to it. He's different, he's got a big ego, he's high on his own chops, who cares look at him go!
had the amazing opportunity to see him perform at university of illinois this year. absolutely mind blowing
One word. Ok, here it goes: D-A-M-N!
His articulation and rhythm are fucking from another world.
Herlin Riley, guy is out of this world good.
Undeniable
3:18 "B"
André haha I heard that but wasn’t sure what he was saying
The thing is, with Wynton Marsalis playing some really complex material for a few minutes without the harmony, it is easy to forget the AABA form, i.e., you have THREE As in a roll. That being said, the pianist did play both As when bass and piano joined the drummer. But the pianist was just suggesting the chords, which is totally fine. When Wynton Marsalis went to part B, the pianist was on it, but he was once again just suggesting the chords. I don't think he didn't know where the music was. But because he was somewhat hesitant, perhaps Wynton thought he was lost and said "B!". You can see that the pianist changed the way he was playing very abruptly, now really showing the chords more firmly. I liked what he was doing before, actually. In any case, Marsalis solo is just mind blowing. Absolutely outstanding.
Inacreditável¡!!!!!!!
That's just 6 mins of wynton going "ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to cut loose and show you what I can really do"
I couldn't carry his trumpet case and.
Bad Ass !!
anyone catch that circular breathing at about 2:25
Yes! Cuaght that at about 2.30.
Impressive technique. Great solo. I don't care that much for his music and don't agree w/ his views on what Jazz is or isn't, but he sure can play. Now I agree he might have 'too much technique' and not enough emotion in his playing, but I can still appreciate his playing, even if I prefer many other trumpet players over him.
WOW
I like Freddie Hubbard, Maynard Ferguson
RAUL Desouza trombone player
Oh yeah, I love Freddie! Other greats are Fats Navarro, Clifford Brown, Clark Terry, Roy Eldridge.
Wynton !!!!! todo el Swing !
Good lord!
that s--t sounds good!
Which angel's goosing him?
Sorry I misunderstood. Wynton does have a pretty big ego but since this is only 6 minutes of the concert I would like to think the other band members got their turn to shine.
0:20
0:31
what mute is he using?
Bucket mute.
+Robert Maxwell I believe he has a Monette Trumpet P3. The mouthpieces they make are quite different to conventional ones
gess brikzmaster did lol
Wut
How do you know it wasn't the pianist that fucked up? Wynton vibes the pianist when he comes in.
I just love to listen to WM but he does have the slight tendency to 'play around' a bit and kinda forget what he's playing, or so it seems!
Much better than the 1943 Parker version, that was boring, standard and didn't really have much feel, I like the Brown/Roach 1955 version, Marsalis is a bit too progressive/bebop for me.. but not to down his talent at all... I don't play, just listen to a lot of music/styles
+Denise Mobers wouldn't you just shut up mortal. No one is here to read your boring comments, however right you may feel they are
Evidently someone is, as you've replied to my comment. And obviously, you don't understand the issue of 'opinion'.
And since this was posted back in 2014.....
i assure you i understand, More so, your intentions.They aren't the best
The trumpet makes an unpleasant sound with that particular mute.
Ernesto Tilbrook I respect you, Ernesto.
Boring. Brownie, come back!
If Brownie was with us I think he'd love Wynton’s playing.
He plays every boring note he's supposed to play...
What Chet said of Wynton: "All technique, no soul." Sorry, but can't contradict that. This was indeed an awesome performance, right up there at the tippermost pinnacle of showoffery. But that's all it was. Emotionally? Nothing. So if I want to actually FEEL something, something of depth in a jazz trumpet performance, gimme Pops, Miles, Clifford, Kenny, Donald Byrd, and a few others. Just don't give me Wynton. Dunno, it's like a computer could feel as much. Curiously, my sense is he'd have made a much better drummer, his rhythmic instincts downright uncanny. His melodic sense? Not so much.
Personally, I don't understand this. I hear people say this very thing about Wynton often, but it's as if they never heard him to begin with? I hear absurds amounts of emotion. I get carried away listening to this and I really just do not understand how someone says there is no emotion in this solo. There absolutely is! Also listen to Wynton play any ballad.
anyone that says this hasn’t listened to enough of wynton. I agree he has music that’s all technique and he’s clearly trying to show off, but he also has loads of music that’s beautiful and full of soul and emotion
Sorry guys but his performance isn't soulful enough for this tune. Quite a lot of running licks that are absolutely unimaginative, loads of awkward stops, many weird successions of ideas that are fine by themselves but don't match together and an intensity in blowing that often doesn't fit Cherokee very well. He could sincerely give a rest to his chops and vary the dynamic a bit. And I'm sincerely not a hater of him. Couple of good part though.
Awful. He's good a copying everyone but has no voice of his own.
How can you watch this and say that? I'd challenge anybody to come close to that.
Charles Standen yes awfull. i am definitely full with awe
That's just something fashionable to say.
.
You need to listen.