I love in the scene when super man kills joker they show the joy in jokers eyes as he realizes that he is finally getting what he wanted, to break a superhero.
@@aaront3043 that's basically his whole purpose, and without Batman, he's actually sad and stops messing with ppl coz there's no point, batman won't be there to stop him or try to kill him
I love that when talking about the yellow rings he says "no superhero should wear a yellow ring... except maybe batman" I feel like that shows a lot about batman he is the only person capable of wearing a yellow ring and still be good any other hero who wears it is most likely turned evil batman however is able to walk the line between good and bad well enough to handle the power of a yellow ring and not be corrupt
2:48 That’s why Batman and Spiderman have a no kill code. They know they know that criminals have to be taken down. But they know a lot of the goons are just doing this because they need to feed their family. They both know what it’s like to lose a father figure, and they don’t want their kids to go through that. *That’s why Batman and Spider-Man are my favorite superheroes*
@@OK-69420 what? The most important thing I would always remember from Superman and Batman is that they can never cross that line to kill, because it makes them just as bad as their enemies. Meanwhile in Marvel these mfs don’t care about anyone who gets in the way 😂
@@RByeet 1. Marvel heroes aren't "mf" 2. It is because they realize the dangers and aftereffect that's cause them to control themselves. Superman in any other fucking universe becomes evil after killing someone, Batman no kill shit was destroyed in BvS, Some dc heroes aren't even worthy of being heroes.
Blue Beetle had a interaction with him in IJ2 about that BB: Is there a line you won't cross? SM: I don't hurt/kill children BB: Didn't stop you with Shazam I can't remember the exact thing but it was like that
@@Vazlyka Well no shazam was not a child billy tried to summon his powers but superman freezed his mouth to stop him to turning into shazam. Billy was adult at this moment
@@Vazlyka Kids grow up injustice is set many years to the future compeared to earth where justice league was good. In injustice damian wayne is adult but in main universe bruce doesnt even know damian. So it is possible that injustice billy was adult when his another earth counter part was a child.
These deaths keep reminding me of the end of injustice 1 when batman tells superman “Theres been enough killing.” It just has so much more weight to it now
I will never forget Night wings, Alfred, and Shazam’s death just cause of how impactful they were in the story. The injustice storyline is one of my favorite of all time and when I never forget reading the comics
Though, apparently, Alfred is alive in the Injustice universe. Apparently, he was taken to the Lazarus Pit by Ra's al Ghul and revived. Though he was in a vegetative state when they did, or something to effect because of him being dead for a while.
Wolverine has literal knives as a weapon, Spider-man ripped a woman's face off and left her to bleed out, Thor is a viking, Captain America and Marvel are soldiers, Black Panther has a giant space station that goes to space battles. Let's not even talk about the Civil Wars
Don’t forget about the one person that is known for not killing had/has a sidekick that has killed more people then half the villains in any universe in one literal comic *cough* *cough* red hood *cough* *cough* Lol srry forgot to specify that im talking about dc, also even though they dont kill, their villains kill A WHOLE LOTTA PPL
I would love to hear what you have to say about the Injustice He-man crossover. He-man gets the powers of Shazam and Skeletor gets the powers of Black Adam, it is glorious. Edit. Just thought I'd love to see Injustice 3 adapt Blackest Night.
@@seanknowles1011 Yes, exactly! But should they have the powers of Shazam and Black Adam or their own powers? Either way the dialogue would be awesome, especially Skeletor's insults.
TheSonOfTheDragon just better them being there own characters to be honest in the last game they done a good job with the ninja turtles think spawn would also be a good character to be honest I think he’d fit in better in mortal Kombat because he’s comics are a bit more blood and gore it so I think Mortal Kombat would fit spawn better
Everyone always talks about injustice superman and what is diferent from other versions, but between the second game and one of the anuals, we know that injustice wonder woman might just be as responsible for the events of the first game as the Joker, or maybe more.
So, then is it possible that she might have given Joker the nuke in the first place? I do know that she's been getting Superman to go over the edge with justice and everything.
My theory on the whole Shazam thing is that when Shazam said “Shaza-“ he was in the middle of saying his spell, so he is in this state of having no power, but also not being a child. Which is how Superman kills him. Just my theory.
They say that Shazam was a kid but why would Shazam say “Shazam?” I think it was to turn back into a kid to dodge Superman and then turn back into Shazam to gain more power. If you watched the Shazam movie you will know what I’m talking about
I read somewhere that in that scene Billy was in his child form so he tried to use the spell to become Shazam but it was considered too brutal to outright kill a child so they kept his model as Shazam. I'm not sure if this is true but that's what I know.
@@jd6319 they rather join the east looking side even though deep down they know it’s wrong but have fooled themselves enough to believe there are doing good
The shazam one is definitely the worst, Not only was billy not being a threat or even questioning him beyond being like "Man this is a little too far." Not only does supes get mad at it, he literally MURDERS HIM infront of everyone in a blind rage for that, no betrayal or accident that makes him think he's gonna lose someone he loves, its pure villainous intent to kill a non-believer.
In the cartoon, hal recruited Mogo by drilling into his core and dropping the ring down. Then again, this is the same corp with squirrels, living math equations, and a sentient small pox virus, so I wouldnt be surprised if they have an assortment of rings for different species.
Have you ever had one really bad day? I mean a REALLY bad day? That line is perfect for the Joker and Superman because one day caused them to go down a dark path. It’s a slippery slope.
It’s good when a hero kills a villain to save millions. This is where Batman makes a huge mistake because he gives villains more and more chances to break out of prison and kill more and more people. That’s why Gotham is a pile of shit
@@Coolstrongwarriorbro27 yeah after Killin the top criminals make more criminals so u wanna kill millions of lives y not nuke whole earth and everyone will die including villains smh
Yes, superheroes should kill. It's not hard to control yourself, give yourself rules, a code if you will. Kind of like Ghost Rider, he normally only kills demons or anyone who has spilled innocent blood.
Yeah but superheroes (at least in fiction) are limited by earthly laws and human rights. Maybe if it was an extraterrestrial villain like Darkseid, the whole world probably wouldn't care. If it was a regular crook however, they'd definitely lose public trust. Of course, an absolute psychopath like the Joker deserves a fate worse than death, but even then killing him doesn't warrant any gain. If anything, killing the Joker is giving him a free win because that means he managed to push your psyche to its breaking point. So while killing is definitely practical, there's a lot of implicit factors that play against it
@@jackgray2419 They are, if they are ever to gain public trust at least. Like Needlemouse said, no one should ever have the power of judge, jury and executioner altogether. It's destructive. And people definitely don't appreciate others who play their own judge (by their own rules).
@@jackgray2419 In the Arrowverse, we see Oliver Queen turn himself in for "his crimes as a vigilante". Now while most superheroes aren't vigilantes like Arrow, Batman and Red Hood, it is not outside the realm of law that they can be judged for murder and/or other actions deemed as a crime. There have been many instances where not only the JL but the Avengers as well have to coordinate with governments even though they have nothing to do with them in the first place. That way they can justify their actions and optimally pay for losses (as seen in the MCU where Stark Industries have been given the rights to 'cleaning up the mess' of the alien invasion). You can't have superpowered individuals just running and flying about killing baddies if they feel like it and fighting other superpowered beings to the point where they cause massive destruction and the loss of innocent lives, at least without someone to keep them in check or someone to justify their actions. As Batman said in JL: War, you have to realize the danger of out-of-control superpowered beings. Even then his Agamemnon contingency plans are to neutralize, not kill. That way they can bring the corrupt personnel to the court of law and be judged for their actions. Outright killing them would put anyone in a bad spot, JL and non-JL alike. The point is, superheroes, while they may not be bound by law, have to be held responsible for their actions. And of course the judgement of the JL/Avengers can be biased. The court of law is the only fair way to justify whatever a superhero (even more so a superpowered one) did. And in this case while it is most likely the court would shrug off Superman killing a mass murderer and terrorist as it is the only seemingly effective option against someone like the Joker, they would most likely not appreciate what Superman did afterwards. It's a combination of being held responsible and the mental drop after killing that makes it a big no-no for superheroes. It's a stupid moral code, but if superheroes are to ever stay in the light, they can't walk the path of darkness. Fighting fire with fire just makes a bigger flame, which is the case in Injustice (Joker kills, Superman kills, everything goes to chaos). And not everybody has the moral and mental resilience of Batman, the world is just full of people who break easily. Still wanna talk like I don't know anything?
I honestly felt horrible for Grundy. Head blown off by Batman, head literally unzipped by Superman, dragged over to Luthor to have his brain hacked apart and turned into Supes' dog. And with how sad he sounded when he picked up Shazam after Superman killed him,I'm willing to bet a quarter that Billy was the closest thing he had to a friend in the Regime. And he could do nothing to stop him dying. Yeah Grundy resurrects, but he remembers ALL his deaths. I can only imagine the kind of trauma that did to him.
_"...a lot of people have to die for there to be a winner."_ Hah, no. You just have to destroy the enemy's ability to wage war. If killing was the only, or even most effective means, then all wars would be nuclear.
Do a video on owl man from DC. Dudes basically Batman on brain drugs and a exoskeleton stronger than Wonderwoman. He whipped dat Batman ass in crisis. It was sad watching Bruce try to engage in hand to hand with him. I wish we saw more of him. He is so much better than Bruce Wayne. He’d probably make Joker a sex slave.
Owls eat Bats for breakfast. There's a great panel in the new 52 showing an owl crunching on a bat. Allow me to add, 'turn the Joker into a sex slave' that's pretty good. Harsh, but solid nevertheless.
The parademons in Justice League War dont really count. As far as I can remember, even in the older Justice League series the League kills the parademons.
Remember that 1 page were led Luthor controlled doomsday and nearly killed superman but instead kills bizzaro because he remembered their friendship. What if doomsday killed superman instead of bizzaro.
You forget that before he killed GA he was fighting Captain Atom who had orders to kill him by the government and he wasn't in a good mood to say the least considering he just had a several megaton bomb explode in his face and WW was put in a coma from the same blast. Then GA stupidly started shooting Superman with an arrow that bounced off and hit his father.
You know what's really f^cked up about the Injustice Superman? He's what any real world with those superpowers would be if they were a moral person, to begin with. Anyone else would be far, far worse.
While the Joker's death was definitely the thing that started it all, he was still redeemable but two things played out really stood out when I was reading this series and one of them was addressed, maybe both. 1) Batman.. doesn't really have a heart to heart with Supes 2) Wonderwoman. #1 was addressed at the very end of Injustice 2 as a special and honestly makes a ton of sense. Superman asked him to be his kid's Godfather! They're freaking best friends in this universe and he doesn't even try to grieve with his best friend! C'mon! I honestly think the true villain of the entire Injustice series is Wonderwoman. She's done so many shady things that fast-tracked Superman's rise to evil and it doesn't get talked about. Oh yeah, while reading through this, I gotta say I'm shocked that so many superheroes actually took Superman's side instead of Batman's side in this series. There was barely any dialogue trying to justify what Supes does until the moment Flash turns against the regime and by that time it was way too late. I found myself throwing my hands in the air questioning what the hell all the heroes were doing!
Biggest fan of DC and Marvel Myers That's only if they go rouge individually, but injustice Supes has many of other superheroes backing him up, especially the most powerful ones like Flash, so Batman's was losing against him.
Just a quick correction, he doesn't kill Black Canary. He actually stops himself because she realizes that she is pregnant, reminding him of Lois. Dr. Fate takes her away to another universe where Green Arrow is still alive with no Black Canary.
“I won’t hurt children” “Didn’t stop you with Shazam” Exactly, Superman killed an innocent child and in a brutal way too, Superman was no longer a hero, he was a monster after that
Shazam/ Captain Marvel's kill was incompetent, there is no way he would've been able to laser through him considering Captain Marvel is just as invulnerable and resistant as Superman
I do not support Superman's actions 90% of the times in this story. I agreed with Superman's tactics and approach until first half of year one. And some ideas would still work if he didn't go off the rails. That said, I have to argue some points here since you conveniently ignored some facts to the 5 deaths you showed. 1. Parademons. Who cares. They are mindless killing machines. Sometimes undead, sometimes reused / recycled populations of a conquered planet. The entire league killed them left, right and centre (even in the movies, comics and animated shows, Batman included). They are on the same level as Braniac drones and everyone kills them as well. As for Kaliback... he had it coming. He mocked Superman when he really should have just boomtubed home. Bad call of him, then again he was never the brightest new god. 2. Mogo. It's called self defence. Mogo and the guardian would not have backed off. And they would have killed him. Ganthet even ordered Mogo to do so. Dinah tried to 'murder' Superman first, so technically self defence as well. And Fate saved her, so Superman didn't 'murder' anyone in that crater. And let's be clear here. Clark called Ganthet out on his guardian BS. Where were the smurfs when Krypton was clearly invaded by an outside force - AKA Braniac? If they had tried and failed, Superman would be angry at their failure and not so receptive at the manipulation of Sinestro, but being angry at their lack of giving a single F about it was far worse. Hell in Injustice 2 game, Starfire does the same! Kori: "Do you help people?" GL: "On a good day, I think we do." Kori: "Where were you when Tamaran was sacked!?" 3. GA. Again, lack of context. Batman and lackeys break into his home. Where his parents were for safety after the US president had them kidnapped in a off the books operation. Also, Captain Atom (the biggest jerk there) also had an off the book mission from the president. Assassinate superman. Batmans track record of making bad calls with whom he teams up only gets worse from there on out. So... Supermans home was just broken into, there was an assassination attempt, he was KO-ed in orbit, Diana was badly injured, his home partially fall apart and an armed man he could no longer trust was next to his parents. call me paranoid, but I don't think anyone would be thinking clearly after that. PTSD perhaps? So yes, I agree killing GA was wrong, but mitigating circumstances. And Ga could have backed off and throw his bow away as well. 4. Luthor. OK, this guy... half of the 'bad' ideas the Regime had were originally his mess. The pills most of all. Then he developed a conciseness and instead of telling Supes (in lets say year one, when he was still not beyond reach) "Hey, I'm not going to do this anymore, I think we are going too far, let's try to talk about it... nope, he back stabs him from that point on. So I agree his death was evil, but I understand why Supes did it. Lying for 5 years like that would break anyone. Shazam... yeah, can't defend that one and won't. Pointless and evil. But again, why did Billy not come out with that in year one instead of year 6? Billy can be excused cause of hero worshipping and being a kid, Luthor has no excuse. 5. The Joker. OK, hands up. Who thinks the clown really needed to die. Even sooner than when Superman executed him, not murdered him. You execute a prisoner marked for that. And if Gordon and the justice system still wouldn't have had him executed, for killing millions, then there would be no hope for the DC justice system. Harley would deserve the same. I'm actually surprised no one else took the justice in their own hands and had him killed. All the families who were scared by him. Go do a fundraiser and pay Deadshot or Deathstroke to kill him or something. The Bat will only play the stupid games on and on and fill graveyards not solving the problem. My take on your rather poor attempt at this.
About the Joker, his evil crusade only serves one purpose and that is to get the Batman to kill him. He has a personal vendetta against the Batman and seeks to prove that everyone has a breaking point. So Batman isn't playing stupid; while he does get himself into helpless situations where the Joker claims so many innocent lives, he tries to keep a strong psyche and not fall into the Joker's ploy. Batman himself walks the line between light and dark and killing the Joker would just push him down the darker road. Is it a ridiculous moral code for Batman to follow? Yes, but that shows Batman unwavering strength to stay true to his image as a superhero who shouldn't kill. It's this tough mentality that Injustice Superman sadly doesn't have. It's ironic to see the Joker's plan succeed - partially. While he does end up dead and push someone to his breaking point, it wasn't the Batman. It was Superman, someone capable of so much more destruction than both him and Batman. Did he deserve it? Absolutely, he deserves far worse. But was it worth it? Hardly, considering the scale of destruction and lethality the Injustice wars have shown.
@@halorecon9 And Batman has at least 50% of the blame for that. No talking, no consoling... I mean it took him 6 YEARS to finally say he's sorry. All I pointed out was how Superman was right in the first 6 months. After that I only pointed to the circumstances that would have made any action he took as less severe in a courtroom. If people like you say Harley is innocent cause BS like Stockholm syndrome, crazy or other stupid things, I can throw PTSD for Supes or betrayal,... so on. Or is it "Rules for thee but not for me?"
You wanna know who truly won the Injustice conflict? The Joker.
Very true
Mr Coolant indeed
Yessir
Quite true
'Injustice'...that spells Joker's greatest triumph of all time!
BB:"Their any line u wont cross?"
S: "I dont hurt children"
BB:"Didn't stop u with shazam"
Who is bb and s
@@yungestNcharge1 BB: Blue Beetle
S: Superman
Dragon Slayer
The Blue Beetle/Jaime Reyes
I can't forgive Superman after he killed Shazam
That’s from Injustice 2 with Superman vs. Blue Beetle
I love in the scene when super man kills joker they show the joy in jokers eyes as he realizes that he is finally getting what he wanted, to break a superhero.
I think I know why joker kills people it’s to push Batman into killing him
@@aaront3043 that is the reason why
@@aaront3043 he was killing before meeting Batman tho
@@aaront3043 that's basically his whole purpose, and without Batman, he's actually sad and stops messing with ppl coz there's no point, batman won't be there to stop him or try to kill him
Anyone could do the same and get the same results
Joker is just a weird sick
I was so saddened by SHAZAM he has always been one of my faves
Me to...
Heck Grundy was kind enough heroic enough to actually give Shazam a burial.
Md Ratul same
TNG CHI YI true
So my Boi Super man technically killed a hero and a kid at the same time... Damn
I love that when talking about the yellow rings he says "no superhero should wear a yellow ring... except maybe batman" I feel like that shows a lot about batman he is the only person capable of wearing a yellow ring and still be good any other hero who wears it is most likely turned evil batman however is able to walk the line between good and bad well enough to handle the power of a yellow ring and not be corrupt
knows Best well I mean batman kinda uses fear as a tool already anyway
WildGhost26 hr doesn’t KINDA, he DOES use it as a tool almost all the time
No that's just dc stroking batman's cock again.
knows Best I’d say Batman would wield the green ring of will
Because no other hero weilds fear as a weapon,unless they turned evil.Bruce uses fear everytime he goes on patrol.
batman’s top 5 SERIOUS but not fatal injuries he’s inflicted on others
Ooooh thats good
5.injustive 2 on an innocent guard doing his job.
4.joker at sometimes.
3.his sidekicks during training.
2.ras al ghul
1.himself u seen his back??
@@badrinath5306 sounds like a good list
When he whooped Superman’s ass because he knew about the whole Alfred situation
1. that one poor injustice 2 guard
Best: Joker
Most disappointing: Nightwing
Superman didnt kill dick grayson.
Fariz Azhraf he’s probably talking about the injustice deaths
Yeah I just meant overall
Ahhh okay, my bet, sorry!
Aadhil Sathish He went out with some dignity though, Nightwing was killed by a rock
Damn, Injustice is depressing!
It makes flashpoint look childish
That's Ed Boon for ya.
Honesty the worst thing that Happened in injustice 2 was Batman’s blood sin Damian Wayne joining Superman
infinite destiny facts
WHAT?!!!!!!#!!!!!!???? IT IS $0 AWESOME!!!
The whole saga was all just the Joker's greatest punchline.
Just know that general zod is injustice superman
2:48 That’s why Batman and Spiderman have a no kill code. They know they know that criminals have to be taken down. But they know a lot of the goons are just doing this because they need to feed their family.
They both know what it’s like to lose a father figure, and they don’t want their kids to go through that. *That’s why Batman and Spider-Man are my favorite superheroes*
[Although admirably in certain, continuities they have broken that rule. Dark Knight Return/DCEU Batman kills. Marvel Zombies Spider-Man kills.]
U were kinda out of context when u started talking about the criminal’s families and stuff; that part doesn’t apply to all criminals
@@comicfan1324 I agree. Batman and Spider-Man are my favorite superheroes and my favorite characters ever.
@@iimonii the families of criminals are better without those monsters living with them
Hey you didn't forget the hyphen between spiderman
I was in shock when he killed ganthet and mogo the living planet
And shazam
Liam Tulloch like that was amazing feat of his
Freiza would destroy mogo in one shot
It was so awesome!
@@darthrevan4487 freeza is a bitch
DC: we can’t kill, it crosses the line and it brings us down to the villains level
Marvel: so anyways I started blasting
Na
@@absoluteecho6152 what do you mean nah, they’re clearly playing judge, jury and executioner out here 😂
@@RByeet the difference is, Marvel heroes realizes the dangers of killing,DC heroes dosent.
@@OK-69420 what? The most important thing I would always remember from Superman and Batman is that they can never cross that line to kill, because it makes them just as bad as their enemies. Meanwhile in Marvel these mfs don’t care about anyone who gets in the way 😂
@@RByeet 1. Marvel heroes aren't "mf"
2. It is because they realize the dangers and aftereffect that's cause them to control themselves. Superman in any other fucking universe becomes evil after killing someone, Batman no kill shit was destroyed in BvS, Some dc heroes aren't even worthy of being heroes.
So since superman killed Shazam that means he basically killed a kid
Blue Beetle had a interaction with him in IJ2 about that
BB: Is there a line you won't cross?
SM: I don't hurt/kill children
BB: Didn't stop you with Shazam
I can't remember the exact thing but it was like that
@@scootagecore i don't kill children
*literally
@@Vazlyka Well no shazam was not a child billy tried to summon his powers but superman freezed his mouth to stop him to turning into shazam.
Billy was adult at this moment
@@Vazlyka Kids grow up injustice is set many years to the future compeared to earth where justice league was good.
In injustice damian wayne is adult but in main universe bruce doesnt even know damian.
So it is possible that injustice billy was adult when his another earth counter part was a child.
These deaths keep reminding me of the end of injustice 1 when batman tells superman “Theres been enough killing.” It just has so much more weight to it now
I will never forget Night wings, Alfred, and Shazam’s death just cause of how impactful they were in the story. The injustice storyline is one of my favorite of all time and when I never forget reading the comics
Though, apparently, Alfred is alive in the Injustice universe. Apparently, he was taken to the Lazarus Pit by Ra's al Ghul and revived. Though he was in a vegetative state when they did, or something to effect because of him being dead for a while.
dc heroes: we mustn’t kill
marvel heroes: who tf cares
Marvel superheroes don’t kill
???
literally the first movie in the mcu, tony stark kills iron monger
Wolverine has literal knives as a weapon, Spider-man ripped a woman's face off and left her to bleed out, Thor is a viking, Captain America and Marvel are soldiers, Black Panther has a giant space station that goes to space battles. Let's not even talk about the Civil Wars
Don’t forget about the one person that is known for not killing had/has a sidekick that has killed more people then half the villains in any universe in one literal comic *cough* *cough* red hood *cough* *cough*
Lol srry forgot to specify that im talking about dc, also even though they dont kill, their villains kill A WHOLE LOTTA PPL
Deadpool: You so Dark, Are you sure not from DC universe.
I would love to hear what you have to say about the Injustice He-man crossover. He-man gets the powers of Shazam and Skeletor gets the powers of Black Adam, it is glorious.
Edit. Just thought I'd love to see Injustice 3 adapt Blackest Night.
Yes, please!
TheSonOfTheDragon If they ever make an injustice 3 i’d like to see He-Man and skeletor as guest characters
@@seanknowles1011 Yes, exactly! But should they have the powers of Shazam and Black Adam or their own powers? Either way the dialogue would be awesome, especially Skeletor's insults.
...and then Superman kills them both.
TheSonOfTheDragon just better them being there own characters to be honest in the last game they done a good job with the ninja turtles think spawn would also be a good character to be honest I think he’d fit in better in mortal Kombat because he’s comics are a bit more blood and gore it so I think Mortal Kombat would fit spawn better
Everyone always talks about injustice superman and what is diferent from other versions, but between the second game and one of the anuals, we know that injustice wonder woman might just be as responsible for the events of the first game as the Joker, or maybe more.
If it's true then it sound like if can be retcon the story of injustice.
So, then is it possible that she might have given Joker the nuke in the first place? I do know that she's been getting Superman to go over the edge with justice and everything.
to be fair She is much more hateable in Injustice one,But In Injustice 2 i was even cheering for her
@@chriswentz5197 Why? Fuck Wonder Bitch. She's a master fucking manipulator
Billy's whimpers of pain and fear is what really got me.
My theory on the whole Shazam thing is that when Shazam said “Shaza-“ he was in the middle of saying his spell, so he is in this state of having no power, but also not being a child. Which is how Superman kills him. Just my theory.
It could also be that Shazam is partially weakened from his fight with Lex Luthor.
They say that Shazam was a kid but why would Shazam say “Shazam?” I think it was to turn back into a kid to dodge Superman and then turn back into Shazam to gain more power. If you watched the Shazam movie you will know what I’m talking about
@@Coolstrongwarriorbro27 Cause even superman in injustice says he won’t kill a kid
@@OwlpoAnimations well they said that billy was a kid as well in injustice
I read somewhere that in that scene Billy was in his child form so he tried to use the spell to become Shazam but it was considered too brutal to outright kill a child so they kept his model as Shazam.
I'm not sure if this is true but that's what I know.
Poor captain marvel billy bastion I’ll missed him so much
2020Surya S315 right
F
injustice is like Game of Thrones. Who dies next?
1. Shazam
2. Joker
3. Green arrow
4. Metropolis
5. Lois/Unbirthed son
He does not hold back anymore.
@@danknhshinki73 the symbol of Hope is dead
People injustice timeline: killing the parademons was wrong
Justice league: *laughs in Snyder cut*
Who noticed that at the start he said young justice instead of injustice 2
@@ThaKellisGo to the start and look at the tag
3:22 Meanwhile in the Dragon Ball Universe
Frieza & Beerus: *Sneezes*
Beerus did sneeze and blow up a planet in Super. Granted it was a fodder planet but still
Now do top deaths in the injustice universe thats not done by superman
1) kyle rainer
2) night wing
3) batwoman
4) spector
5) guy gardiner
John Stewart
You know what I wanna see? More of Superman and Lex, being pals before Superman went down that dark path
I See This Video As “This Video Will Make You Hate Superman” 😂😂😂😅
@Joseph Bleifus what about shazam?
Well this is injustice Superman only sooo
I don’t hate Superman🤷🏾♂️
You know despite everything, you have to admit that outfit Superman has with the Sinestro Ring is pretty cool looking
Needlemouse:how do you kill a planet?
Palpatine:*ahem*
Joker : *kills millions*
Superman: *kills one guy only and that Is joker*
Bat-man: NO
Skyplayz 101 agree
For real.
Well that is the case he didint kill just the Joker
He was trying to protect Superman. This is what Joker wanted!
@@Doncroft1 People have a hard time understanding this. It's the complete truth, man.
"Boss, you killed a child...! GREAT WORK, THIS IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST"
The guardian he killed was a more impressive kill than mogo... that particular guardian once took down the entire green lantern Corp by himself.
Injustice be like: “you’ve become the very thing you swore to destroy”
I will never forgive him for killing Billy.. Billy had just saved his life and that’s how he was repayed
Joker in hell “do you want to know how I got these scars” Demon “ from super man”?
To be honest I think number 1 should have been Lois Lane and Superman's son
That was an accident
@@coolvideos5113 But he did
10:18 that is depressing and brutal 😨
When superman killed shazam my heart broke
I enjoyed it 😈
I really don’t care for the kid . If he had so much wisdom, he should know better to side with Batman. Good riddens.
@@jd6319 they rather join the east looking side even though deep down they know it’s wrong but have fooled themselves enough to believe there are doing good
@@jd6319 wow you really are heartless
Man when Superman shoves his hand into the Joker his laugh turning into pain in death was kind of chilling
The shazam one is definitely the worst, Not only was billy not being a threat or even questioning him beyond being like "Man this is a little too far." Not only does supes get mad at it, he literally MURDERS HIM infront of everyone in a blind rage for that, no betrayal or accident that makes him think he's gonna lose someone he loves, its pure villainous intent to kill a non-believer.
I love an evil Superman
The character is so flawed and opposite from the normal Superman
Superman murdering Shazam makes former iredeemably evil
Showing "Joker wins" at the very end of the video. This just fits perfectly.
3:20 how does a planet even put on a ring
Gravity
In the cartoon, hal recruited Mogo by drilling into his core and dropping the ring down.
Then again, this is the same corp with squirrels, living math equations, and a sentient small pox virus, so I wouldnt be surprised if they have an assortment of rings for different species.
@@sketchydude8431 >Sentient small pox virus.
Dude, *WHAT*
Saturn
Have you ever had one really bad day? I mean a REALLY bad day? That line is perfect for the Joker and Superman because one day caused them to go down a dark path. It’s a slippery slope.
NeedleMouse production is a very wise man
Killing is bad for any hero unless it's like Green arrow and Damian darhk
It’s good when a hero kills a villain to save millions. This is where Batman makes a huge mistake because he gives villains more and more chances to break out of prison and kill more and more people. That’s why Gotham is a pile of shit
@@Coolstrongwarriorbro27 yeah after Killin the top criminals make more criminals so u wanna kill millions of lives y not nuke whole earth and everyone will die including villains smh
I always get sooooo happy when I see a video from you!!!
Edit: Mogo was the most impressive to me
Injustice Superman is evil
Good detective work there
I had no idea
Well no shit sherlock
no shit
It was about Lois
Yes, superheroes should kill. It's not hard to control yourself, give yourself rules, a code if you will. Kind of like Ghost Rider, he normally only kills demons or anyone who has spilled innocent blood.
Yeah but superheroes (at least in fiction) are limited by earthly laws and human rights. Maybe if it was an extraterrestrial villain like Darkseid, the whole world probably wouldn't care. If it was a regular crook however, they'd definitely lose public trust.
Of course, an absolute psychopath like the Joker deserves a fate worse than death, but even then killing him doesn't warrant any gain. If anything, killing the Joker is giving him a free win because that means he managed to push your psyche to its breaking point. So while killing is definitely practical, there's a lot of implicit factors that play against it
@@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 They're not limited by earthly laws. There are no factors at play.
@@jackgray2419 They are, if they are ever to gain public trust at least. Like Needlemouse said, no one should ever have the power of judge, jury and executioner altogether. It's destructive. And people definitely don't appreciate others who play their own judge (by their own rules).
@@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 No, they're not. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@jackgray2419 In the Arrowverse, we see Oliver Queen turn himself in for "his crimes as a vigilante". Now while most superheroes aren't vigilantes like Arrow, Batman and Red Hood, it is not outside the realm of law that they can be judged for murder and/or other actions deemed as a crime.
There have been many instances where not only the JL but the Avengers as well have to coordinate with governments even though they have nothing to do with them in the first place. That way they can justify their actions and optimally pay for losses (as seen in the MCU where Stark Industries have been given the rights to 'cleaning up the mess' of the alien invasion). You can't have superpowered individuals just running and flying about killing baddies if they feel like it and fighting other superpowered beings to the point where they cause massive destruction and the loss of innocent lives, at least without someone to keep them in check or someone to justify their actions.
As Batman said in JL: War, you have to realize the danger of out-of-control superpowered beings. Even then his Agamemnon contingency plans are to neutralize, not kill. That way they can bring the corrupt personnel to the court of law and be judged for their actions. Outright killing them would put anyone in a bad spot, JL and non-JL alike.
The point is, superheroes, while they may not be bound by law, have to be held responsible for their actions. And of course the judgement of the JL/Avengers can be biased. The court of law is the only fair way to justify whatever a superhero (even more so a superpowered one) did.
And in this case while it is most likely the court would shrug off Superman killing a mass murderer and terrorist as it is the only seemingly effective option against someone like the Joker, they would most likely not appreciate what Superman did afterwards. It's a combination of being held responsible and the mental drop after killing that makes it a big no-no for superheroes. It's a stupid moral code, but if superheroes are to ever stay in the light, they can't walk the path of darkness. Fighting fire with fire just makes a bigger flame, which is the case in Injustice (Joker kills, Superman kills, everything goes to chaos). And not everybody has the moral and mental resilience of Batman, the world is just full of people who break easily.
Still wanna talk like I don't know anything?
Joker's scream gets me til this day. (shivers) It just sounds so pained :(
Injustice is great. Can’t wait for 3.
I honestly felt horrible for Grundy. Head blown off by Batman, head literally unzipped by Superman, dragged over to Luthor to have his brain hacked apart and turned into Supes' dog.
And with how sad he sounded when he picked up Shazam after Superman killed him,I'm willing to bet a quarter that Billy was the closest thing he had to a friend in the Regime. And he could do nothing to stop him dying.
Yeah Grundy resurrects, but he remembers ALL his deaths. I can only imagine the kind of trauma that did to him.
0:46-3:02(That How I feel about DC's Superheroes Sometimes But I Still Love Them Though)
Take a drink every time he says Superman
_"...a lot of people have to die for there to be a winner."_
Hah, no. You just have to destroy the enemy's ability to wage war. If killing was the only, or even most effective means, then all wars would be nuclear.
Most of the time there are people protecting their abillity to wage war, lots of people still have to die for there to be a winner
DC heros:killing is not the answer
Marvel heros:oh really?
is that really how bad the quality of the first injustice game was?
No it's because he showed it on PlayStation 😉
They have the same graphics as xbox...
@skiddadle skadoodle is this your mom?
I swear, Injustice Superman is this version of D'Vorah at this point.
As always, wonderful video!
Bro when Shazam died in the video and made that final cry for help... I started crying😭😭😭
Do a video on owl man from DC. Dudes basically Batman on brain drugs and a exoskeleton stronger than Wonderwoman.
He whipped dat Batman ass in crisis. It was sad watching Bruce try to engage in hand to hand with him.
I wish we saw more of him. He is so much better than Bruce Wayne. He’d probably make Joker a sex slave.
@Ultimate Hedgehog that and he's nihilistic
@@vicentserrano9268
Ok you convinced me --> he's good people!
Owls eat Bats for breakfast. There's a great panel in the new 52 showing an owl crunching on a bat. Allow me to add, 'turn the Joker into a sex slave' that's pretty good. Harsh, but solid nevertheless.
Probably make Joker his Robin
Injustice one vs injustice 2 Superman seem like different people ngl
The parademons in Justice League War dont really count. As far as I can remember, even in the older Justice League series the League kills the parademons.
Remember that 1 page were led Luthor controlled doomsday and nearly killed superman but instead kills bizzaro because he remembered their friendship.
What if doomsday killed superman instead of bizzaro.
Everyone's all sad about Shazam.
Personally, I cared more when Lex Luthor died.
I cried when they nerfed flash... AGAIN
You forget that before he killed GA he was fighting Captain Atom who had orders to kill him by the government and he wasn't in a good mood to say the least considering he just had a several megaton bomb explode in his face and WW was put in a coma from the same blast. Then GA stupidly started shooting Superman with an arrow that bounced off and hit his father.
How did Tim Drake lost his virginity
I'm going to go out on a limb and say sex is how he lost it.
I think Tim did with Stephanie Brown
Victor Vargas if you know who he had sex with why are you asking
@@nnoothan3096 its just a theory, besides he has haven other Girlfriends
@@SuperKeith00 that’s insane
Anyone notice how he immediately called injustice young justice?
It wasn't by Superman, but damn Ch'p's death was sad.
You know what's really f^cked up about the Injustice Superman? He's what any real world with those superpowers would be if they were a moral person, to begin with. Anyone else would be far, far worse.
I wanna know how Batman found out about the Super strength pills?
Martian Manhunter told him while he was posing as hawk girl. You should know that Superman burned him alive
This is exactly why Batman saw the need to kill superman in Batman vs Superman
What have we learned here
Jokers a butt
While the Joker's death was definitely the thing that started it all, he was still redeemable but two things played out really stood out when I was reading this series and one of them was addressed, maybe both.
1) Batman.. doesn't really have a heart to heart with Supes
2) Wonderwoman.
#1 was addressed at the very end of Injustice 2 as a special and honestly makes a ton of sense. Superman asked him to be his kid's Godfather! They're freaking best friends in this universe and he doesn't even try to grieve with his best friend! C'mon!
I honestly think the true villain of the entire Injustice series is Wonderwoman. She's done so many shady things that fast-tracked Superman's rise to evil and it doesn't get talked about.
Oh yeah, while reading through this, I gotta say I'm shocked that so many superheroes actually took Superman's side instead of Batman's side in this series. There was barely any dialogue trying to justify what Supes does until the moment Flash turns against the regime and by that time it was way too late. I found myself throwing my hands in the air questioning what the hell all the heroes were doing!
We all do you know Batman has Plans to neutralize justice league members even Superman right
Biggest fan of DC and Marvel Myers That's only if they go rouge individually, but injustice Supes has many of other superheroes backing him up, especially the most powerful ones like Flash, so Batman's was losing against him.
Biggest fan of DC and Marvel Myers what if: Hannnibal Lecter got that plan?
His plans wont work this time.simply because they wont hold back anymore and they literally just annihilate everything and everyone in their path.
It’s was all about Lois
@@primordiuspendragon1620 batman killed the flash before
Are you on Superman’s side because if you are on Superman’s side your on the wrong side
Batman side
Screw punisher supermans my favorite hero now
“Once you can punch a hole through the moon you’re no longer allow to have tantrum” damn that hit me
Jesus Christ this is an amazing reminder of how dark DC can be
Just a quick correction, he doesn't kill Black Canary. He actually stops himself because she realizes that she is pregnant, reminding him of Lois. Dr. Fate takes her away to another universe where Green Arrow is still alive with no Black Canary.
If it was a ranking of all deaths top two
Nightwing and joker in any order
"...to you old school corn burritos out there..."
Mogo.Freiza would do that in one shot
With a punch? Nah bruh stop sucking off DB.
@@オクタン-g7u ah yes someone who hasnt watched super as freiza was in fact able to punch the planet away and absorbed hakai (destroyer) energy
The Joker Laugh When Supes killed him Was HAUNTING
Who thinks injustice should be rated m
I too✋
2020Surya S315 I know I was talking about the deaths in the game
I don't want it m rated
“I won’t hurt children”
“Didn’t stop you with Shazam”
Exactly, Superman killed an innocent child and in a brutal way too, Superman was no longer a hero, he was a monster after that
Shazam/ Captain Marvel's kill was incompetent, there is no way he would've been able to laser through him considering Captain Marvel is just as invulnerable and resistant as Superman
Hate to break it to ya...but Shazam is not as resistant nor as invulnerable as Superman.
This is actually pretty similar to Batman who laugh but with Superman
Do face reveal
I agree
For real I’ve never seen this mans face before
Why do you need to see his face?
@@twinzzlers curiousity
J.Magic25 thank you
Superman: kills ten year old
Hal: a acceptable death.
The Fact Core yeah that was pretty messed up
I do not support Superman's actions 90% of the times in this story. I agreed with Superman's tactics and approach until first half of year one. And some ideas would still work if he didn't go off the rails.
That said, I have to argue some points here since you conveniently ignored some facts to the 5 deaths you showed.
1. Parademons. Who cares. They are mindless killing machines. Sometimes undead, sometimes reused / recycled populations of a conquered planet. The entire league killed them left, right and centre (even in the movies, comics and animated shows, Batman included). They are on the same level as Braniac drones and everyone kills them as well. As for Kaliback... he had it coming. He mocked Superman when he really should have just boomtubed home. Bad call of him, then again he was never the brightest new god.
2. Mogo. It's called self defence. Mogo and the guardian would not have backed off. And they would have killed him. Ganthet even ordered Mogo to do so. Dinah tried to 'murder' Superman first, so technically self defence as well. And Fate saved her, so Superman didn't 'murder' anyone in that crater. And let's be clear here. Clark called Ganthet out on his guardian BS. Where were the smurfs when Krypton was clearly invaded by an outside force - AKA Braniac? If they had tried and failed, Superman would be angry at their failure and not so receptive at the manipulation of Sinestro, but being angry at their lack of giving a single F about it was far worse. Hell in Injustice 2 game, Starfire does the same! Kori: "Do you help people?" GL: "On a good day, I think we do." Kori: "Where were you when Tamaran was sacked!?"
3. GA. Again, lack of context. Batman and lackeys break into his home. Where his parents were for safety after the US president had them kidnapped in a off the books operation. Also, Captain Atom (the biggest jerk there) also had an off the book mission from the president. Assassinate superman. Batmans track record of making bad calls with whom he teams up only gets worse from there on out. So... Supermans home was just broken into, there was an assassination attempt, he was KO-ed in orbit, Diana was badly injured, his home partially fall apart and an armed man he could no longer trust was next to his parents. call me paranoid, but I don't think anyone would be thinking clearly after that. PTSD perhaps? So yes, I agree killing GA was wrong, but mitigating circumstances. And Ga could have backed off and throw his bow away as well.
4. Luthor. OK, this guy... half of the 'bad' ideas the Regime had were originally his mess. The pills most of all. Then he developed a conciseness and instead of telling Supes (in lets say year one, when he was still not beyond reach) "Hey, I'm not going to do this anymore, I think we are going too far, let's try to talk about it... nope, he back stabs him from that point on. So I agree his death was evil, but I understand why Supes did it. Lying for 5 years like that would break anyone. Shazam... yeah, can't defend that one and won't. Pointless and evil. But again, why did Billy not come out with that in year one instead of year 6? Billy can be excused cause of hero worshipping and being a kid, Luthor has no excuse.
5. The Joker. OK, hands up. Who thinks the clown really needed to die. Even sooner than when Superman executed him, not murdered him. You execute a prisoner marked for that. And if Gordon and the justice system still wouldn't have had him executed, for killing millions, then there would be no hope for the DC justice system. Harley would deserve the same. I'm actually surprised no one else took the justice in their own hands and had him killed. All the families who were scared by him. Go do a fundraiser and pay Deadshot or Deathstroke to kill him or something. The Bat will only play the stupid games on and on and fill graveyards not solving the problem.
My take on your rather poor attempt at this.
About the Joker, his evil crusade only serves one purpose and that is to get the Batman to kill him. He has a personal vendetta against the Batman and seeks to prove that everyone has a breaking point. So Batman isn't playing stupid; while he does get himself into helpless situations where the Joker claims so many innocent lives, he tries to keep a strong psyche and not fall into the Joker's ploy. Batman himself walks the line between light and dark and killing the Joker would just push him down the darker road. Is it a ridiculous moral code for Batman to follow? Yes, but that shows Batman unwavering strength to stay true to his image as a superhero who shouldn't kill. It's this tough mentality that Injustice Superman sadly doesn't have.
It's ironic to see the Joker's plan succeed - partially. While he does end up dead and push someone to his breaking point, it wasn't the Batman. It was Superman, someone capable of so much more destruction than both him and Batman. Did he deserve it? Absolutely, he deserves far worse. But was it worth it? Hardly, considering the scale of destruction and lethality the Injustice wars have shown.
Yeah, totally. In all these scenarios superman was totally right. What a hero. I love how much of a great man he's become.
@@halorecon9 And Batman has at least 50% of the blame for that. No talking, no consoling... I mean it took him 6 YEARS to finally say he's sorry. All I pointed out was how Superman was right in the first 6 months. After that I only pointed to the circumstances that would have made any action he took as less severe in a courtroom. If people like you say Harley is innocent cause BS like Stockholm syndrome, crazy or other stupid things, I can throw PTSD for Supes or betrayal,... so on. Or is it "Rules for thee but not for me?"
Man I love this Superman.
Skylar Cooper: Holly Sh*t!
Amy: Language!
Molly: 😨
I thought they always killed the parademons. When did they not kill parademons?
when you play lot of minecraft in creatif mode and watch darkside fly.
Watching this again, superman the temporary insanity led to the most terrifying supervillain in a long time. Except, joker deserved it.