Astrological Necromancy & Fatalism - Why Medieval Italian Scholar Cecco d'Ascoli was Burned Alive
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2023
- On September 26, 1327 Italian astrologer Cecco d'Ascoli was burned alive outside Florence as a relapsed heretic - but what exactly was his crime? By diving into his commentary on the famous De Sphaera Mundi we begin to learn: he seems to have publicly taught astrological fatalism and astral necromancy. In this episode, we'll explore the world of heretical medieval astrological and how that astrology could be used to summon demons through rings and mirrors. Here we find some of the earliest accounts of demonic beings like Floron and Paimon, who would go on to fame in the Goetia of the Lesser Key of Solomon.
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"astrological necromancy" sounds VERY black metal
I read Paypal donation as Papal Donation 😂
I was like "...why...?" They going for Vatican 2.1?
Use Google to translate. Here are his works.
1. "Acerba" ("Bitter Things"): His most significant work, written in Latin. It covers various subjects including astrology, astronomy, natural philosophy, medicine, and theology.
2. "De Sphaera" ("On the Sphere"): A treatise on astronomy and the celestial sphere, written in Latin.
3. "De Natura Seminis Humani" ("On the Nature of Human Seed"): A work on human reproduction and embryology, written in Latin.
4. "De Regimine Principum" ("On the Governance of Princes"): A treatise on political philosophy and governing principles, written in Latin.
5. "Lamenta": A collection of Latin poems attributed to Cecco d'Ascoli.
Ahhh.....You missed a band name!!! "Relapsed Heretic" ! Loves it🤗💜🖤💫
"Maybe the real inquisition was just the enemies we made along the way!"
It sure was… it sure was
Highly recommended campaign for this
Exactly
As they say in D&D, A good necromancer always raises your spirits.
"bomb, its the prince of darkness, antichrist come get you some"
HA! 😂
🤣💀
Astral Necronomancy is a FANTASIC band name.
My man had that og fuck around and find out energy.
I went ahead and translated a couple chapters of 'Exorcismorum Manuales' on your suggestion that no one had done so yet. 😊
Is it available for us to read online?
Thanks for posting the title. Ordering this from Amazon! 🙌
Before I finished the video and heard the term "Astral Necromancer", I thought to myself that it sounded like it was a term out of the WH40K universe. Some cockamamie heretical scheme from the Imperium to resurrect stellar corpses. Turning them back into main sequence stars in an effort to slow\prevent the Chaos induced heat-death of the universe.
The historical explanation is just as metal though, thanks for that!
I’ve never heard of this guy before. Thanks for the episode. Is there a published method for his astrological method? ❤
Maybe in Italian but I'm not sure but his main commentary is published though still in Latin. But yeah he's relatively unknown outside of maybe Dante studies
Not from* a Jedi.. 🌌 🌟⚔️🪖!
Right on!!! Dr. Sledge always brings the delicious exotic goods to bear!!!!
I gotta hear more about your liability lawyer. Where do you get a guy willing to opine on what happens when demons cause earthquakes due to dirty tricks? You didn't find him on the other side of magic mirror, did you?
(On the plus side, billable hours are probably way less when you and Simon LaVey are the only potential customers...)
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Maybe we can do a video on various universities that banned magic?! In your opinion what's the strongest evidence we have that magic really exists?
University of Oxford: In the 16th century, the University of Oxford in England was known for its opposition to magic and occult practices. The university authorities were concerned about the spread of magical beliefs and practices among its scholars. They issued regulations and prohibitions against the study and practice of magic, considering it a violation of Christian doctrine.
2. University of Bologna: The University of Bologna in Italy, one of the oldest universities in Europe, also had measures in place to restrict the study and practice of magic. In the 14th century, the university issued regulations prohibiting the use of magic and prohibited students from studying forbidden arts, which included astrology, divination, and other magical practices.
3. University of Salamanca: The University of Salamanca in Spain, known for its prominence in medieval and Renaissance scholarship, had regulations against magic. Scholars at Salamanca were expected to adhere to orthodox Christian teachings, and the practice of magic was considered incompatible with their academic pursuits.
I thought cancelling was bad now. Imagine being cancelled by the Inquisition.
🤣
Inquisition: Your free trial on life has now expired HERETIC!
Just wait, history might be a preview 🤷
Nah if you're cancelled by the inquisition, just move to another city. It'll go absolutely fine trust me bro
The founding of cities based off of astrological readings is fascinating, because I hadn't known that this was a practice done in Europe and the Islamic world too. Many East Asian cities were founded on urban planning done according to Chinese geomancy (aka fengshui), which is closely linked with Chinese astronomy (necessary to figure out the cardinal directions). It's why cities like Chang'an (modern day Xi'an), Kyoto, etc. are so grid-like with very specific layouts, like the palace being in the north facing south, the main gate leading into the main street of the city being in the south facing north, marketplaces located in the center part of the east and west wings of the city, etc.
Wake up, bro- new Esoterica just dropped 😊
Keep up the awesome job, Dr Sledge ⚒️⚒️
6 minutes in and I can’t stop laughing imagining this guy’s interactions at the royal court. Imagine what his TikTok channel would be like.
Waking up to a notification for a new Esoterica video is the best way to wake up!
hell yea new esoterica joint
Hope you're doing well, brother!
Always Illuminating
Amazing episode, as always - and the part about demons residing somewhere up there got me thinking about a Polish legend - a nobleman who made a pact with the devil was taken up in the sky by the devil, not down to hell, and now i know it wasn't because he was such a good person, possibly.
The part about his death in "Africa" is even more reminiscent to Twardowski's prophecy to die in "Rome" - as he was killed in a tavern called "Rome"
You’re hilarious, you are a great teacher. Thank you for the time and energy you put into making of this great videos
This episode is amazing. Thank you for linking to the legendary Lynn Thorndike's work on this. Despite being nearly a century old, his work is still invaluable.
Yeeees. So glad you are (finally) covering this.
Gotta love the Christian double-standards when it comes to zodiacal stuff.
Wow! Love the way you presented his story- when he asked the executioner if there was a place nearby named Africa!!! *chef’s kiss* what a fateful turn and you expertly told it!
THANK YOU!! I am currently obsessed with the history of Medieval Academics, even before that when I was shocked to learn during my high school years that medieval scholars and academics , including the church (many monks wrote books about how Science enhances the existence of God) that they actually did believed the world was round, not flat. Terry Jones has an interesting series about the middle ages called medieval Lives. His take on the Philosopher and Monk/Clergymen was that they did believed the world was round and he even gave examples of names and places where these "discoveries" were founded and made. I need to rewatch that series because he stated something interesting about why Galileo got tried and punished. It wasn't due to the idea of the world being round as it was believed, but that he challenged the church and the existence of God??? I don't know the full story, but again it is an interesting documentary series. Again, thank you for pointing out how the Medieval folks weren't totally stoopid and blind. So many myths about that era. It is why I am so obsessed now about it. I want to learn the full true story and not the myths and lies about that time period. It is called Dark Ages due to lack of artifacts and documented information, but archeology is catching up and we are discovering more and more information at how (though not as advanced as the Romans and Greeks) Medieval folks were actually quite intelligent and well knowledged... at least more so than given credit for... so as a "baby", novice Medieval scholar, I thank you so much for this.
This mans life needs to be Made into a Hollywood Movie.
I nominate Christopher Walken to play him
If you want to learn how to build a house, build a house. Don't ask anybody, just build a house.
there kinda was one about a similar personality. Not the same but kind of a similar, The Devils (1971) (about Urbain Grandier). after that movie, this one just probably wont work well enough. I can see a comedy movie tho
It would be hilarious for Hollywood to make a movie with a protagonist so unlikeable the audience actually *wants* them to be killed by the inquisition .
@@sidneyadnopoz3427 I find most modern Hollywood films unlikeable ,most modern female characters are designed to be totally unlikeable.
This would definitely be a dark neo comedy
I fell asleep to this last night, finishing it now, your videos are fueling my drive for creative writing thank you so much for all your work
Fascinating presentation. Question: was Hermes Trismegistus always known in the Latin west? I had assumed it was Ficino's translation of the Corpus Hermeticum that introduced the figure of Hermes Trismegistus to the Latin speaking world, but I keep coming across these earlier mentions.
He was always around, can confirm, just not the Corpus Hermeticum.
Dr. Justin Sledge: you have had an absoltely profound influence on me. I'd really have to say this is my favorite channel on the whole platform.
Such an interesting story. Arrogance and Astrology are not a good mix... Something to consider whe practicing this ancient techniques. There's a very important lesson here to remember. Thank you Dr.
As well contextualised and as watchable as always, thank you.
I dig the on-point intriguing and accurate factual title that invites one to further learn esoterics! Not to mention the already fascinating compound title on "astrological necromancy" & fatalism! I will remember the name of Cecco d"Ascoli because of Esoterica! oh wow, did we really need that "burn" @ 3:15 for a man who was fated to be unduly burned at the stake? I mean, for a Ptolemaic astrologer to suffer a similar fate as Giordano Bruno who expounded on a multitudinous universe where Earth isn't the physical center and where other stars like the Sun filled the sky is just, no words! Was burning alive at the stake, rather than being burned career or reputation-wise, akin to life and death blood sports for entertainment in the Roman Colosseum? Middle Ages just keep getting darker! One needs a course in tactical astrology! yeah, what's with the learning from "Mohammedans" and from Kabbalists and then turning around to disdain them? 8:23 is a keen discussion! Also alchemy suffering the same fate as chemistry! It's the lab work versus the wonder of the stars, I imagine! 10:20 Cecco def did not um check off that caution list! ....
12:50 Points in leo dicaprio gif, cover artwork featured on Hadean Press pamphlet on Orations from the Summa Sacre Magice, "Naming the Heavens" by Brian Johnson! Ah! Ay, so it's beyond the pale moon now. So is it capitalized as Manifest Heresy, like for US History, Manifest Destiny? So i gather at this time period, book publishings were author-named versus the cloistered anonymous monk tomes? I'm catching up...that's one way for a grotesque demon to be two-headed... 18:35 would that be where "nigromancy" comes in, as opposed to the term "necromancy"? As well as the "sublunar" realm? Does the De Sacro Bosco Sphaera (Mundi) book still exist, I wonder? 23:20 is a revelation! So only Columbus was a dumbass in 1492! At this rate, scholars of 1230 might have us beat at 2030! That would be the fatalistic thinking, 23:55 if we did not apply differentiation of fate from destiny! 24:30 So much for the GotG soundtrack, Spirit in the Sky! 26:20 hey, I know those characters! you know it's been commented how these sigils are similar to glyphs for modern day electric currents. So a Deviled Ham Radio is not out of the realm of possibility! 27:25 seeing the inevitability as a result of not reading the room... fascinating history! We'll do the buried treasure, the right way, man!
30:00 Cecco d'Ascoli with a twitter, except the flaming was real! 31:35 How to Make Foes and Incense People, with my apologies to the wonderful Dale Carnegie!! 32:45 hey, i know the astronomical/mythical number and relation significance! I understood that reference! no spoilers! That is jawdroppingly crazy! I'm glad I somehow today went all in and followed along on each step of this telling! I called the name mention! I won't forget this fascinating fiery figure! Thank you to Esoterica's Justin Sledge for this epicness I surprised myself having focused throughout!
Maybe if he'd said "in Minecraft" they would have been thrown off more successfully
In game could have saved him
Thank you for covering this material. I've always been intrigued and frustrated by Cecco's commentary of Sacrobosco, and I have a copy of Thorndyke's translation that I thumb through occasionally. The former is a fascinating figure, and I agree that the lack of attention to Sacrobosco is baffling. If you're serious about talismans to ward off wasps, I made a batch of Picatrix-style talismans which I believe would work and have many spares if ever interested.
@@Giantcrabz I think you need a skinsuit made out of a white person and a wig made out of a Christian soccer mom named Karen for that, it's hard to ethically source those.
I've never heard of a specific talisman for that purpose within the realm of astral necromancy at least, but I suspect a Solar or Martial talisman would work. @@Giantcrabz
Can you make me a talisman that harness the planets powers for good use?
@@alivatansever1281 Well, certainly. It's fairly routine.
Yay, I caught this right at the release! That was a wild, wild ride, the whole story, and your narration and commentary made it so very enjoyable. I even laughed a couple of times quite loudly. Thanks for all the hard work!
Yes he is a comedian disguised as a philosopher.
I almost clicked away but then I found that you actually have a foundation of knowledge instead of the high flying hippys one normally encounters on these subjects. So I guess a thanks and a keep doing what you're doing is in order😊
This channel and it's contemporaries are all goldmines of academic tier information. It's quite the time to be alive.
Cecco was indeed quite the interesting character. Thank you for yet another educational, insightful and entertaining episode of Esoterica. Thank you once again and keep up the good work!
I love you channel!!!
Never stop doing what you’re doing!
Kind of wild to think how his astrology and astral fatalism would play in a Calvinist milieu and their idea of predestination
Absolutely one of your best episodes yet!
You're the BEST Justin!
I've long considered doing a reading of de sphaera but it's kind of a snooze.
Yeah important does not equal interesting
I only heard of him because there is a tarot deck made after him. I’m not sure if he himself made it because I don’t own it, but I know it combines astrology, astronomy, and traditional occult knowledge
Tarot decks are demonic. Be careful.
I know I’m not alone in hoping this is a warm-up (no pun intended) on the long-awaited episode on Giordano Bruno! Great show today Dr. Sledge ❤
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO Every friday has me hyped for some good weird Esoterica esotericism! Thanks Doc Sledge!
Have you considered putting these videos out in podcast format as well? Given the form and content I think it would translate quite well and earn you a lot of new listeners.
What an utterly fascinating episode!
Intelligence was his best stat. Wisdom was his dump stat.
Thank you, Justin Sledge.
Cecco was out there for sure.
I love your videos. ❤
This is brilliant once again, especially toward the end. What a great character. I remember thinking similarly about Giordano Bruno while watching the Cosmos reboot a few years ago. It wasn't exactly the 'Science vs Religion' debate that they framed it as...
unrelated but Florance is a beautiful city and if you ever get that chance you really need to visit it. Just don't relapse back into Heresy I guess....
Very interesting video. Never heard of the man before. That's what makes your videos different. You introduce new things to people.
Moses being born of demons? I guess that explains the horns better than that whole mistranslation thing...
Moses had horns?
@@adrianinha19 in the Vulgate.
This is one of my new favorites! Very entertaining 👍
Wow! What an exciting episode!
This video never showed up in my feed even though I'm subscribed and eagerly awaiting new content.
Another superb episode thank you Justin 🌹
The problem is with divination and mysticism when one is seeking higher or central divine figures is that there is an inherant dualism and characters are often di(poly)chromatic in belief of philosophy.
They have a veiw of how worldly and heavenly realms separate that to outsiders would be idiosyncratic from any rational perspective. Again we can look at astrology as being a kind of influential magick, and like any of these system, if one does not ration their expression in an esoteric manner, this leads to the appearance of or actual delusion.
Mostly such individuals are imparting their learning onto their mysticism in order to bring for contrived structures, particularly when they are trying to package those structures for public consumption. This is a mistaken use of mysticism.
Whether or not you believe Yeshu of Nazara, Isaiah or any other figure has a divine essence, these individuals are born, they live and they die (though Isaiah seems to have been born twice and died twice, the second life far more mystical than the first). The human mind is a growth, a long period of learning, an inevitable decline bordered on both sides by the null. It is through others that we percieve the "soul" of the individual in their writings, often through generations of editing. It is one this basis the faithful have to come to determine the divine nature of the "passed" .
The mystic however relies on his visionary experiences, like Paul of Tarsus and his xristos. These visionary interpretations tend to be more hyperbolic in seoaration of reality. Pauls vision was much more extreme than the disciples, John of Ephesus much more extreme than Paul, the gnostic literature of the late second century much mire extreme than the gospel of John. These examples give warning of this practice and divination in particular.
This is not a critique of mysricism persay, but a warning against exotericism in mysticism.
Excellent episode
That was awesome! Thank you.
I've been fascinated since a youth about predictions and prophecies of the future. My mother has always been a strong believer and I've always been skeptical because I need to know how things work. I want to believe like Mulder in X-Files, but require great evidence to understand the mechanics and dynamics like Scully. In one argument with my mom, I asked her, "Is it prediction or persuasion?" I see a lot of potential persuasion in Cecco's story. Social Engineering is a modern term that comes to mind. Lastly, never underestimate the power of denial lol.
Amazing Episode ~
Aw man, I don't feel like looking at this. Well then, i guess that means I better look at it. ❤
Love this channel. Positive waves.
Such a great video! Yeah Cecco's story sounds like the perfect cautionary tale. I'm always fascinated at how people like him came to believe in their ideas so strongly. RIP Checco.
Great video. Awesome content. You have to be my number 1 you tube pick.
I've been studying Latin for the past month, watching a lot of videos, trying to get the declensions memorized. I wanted to ask you what would be a good text for a beginner like me to attempt to read? Something Fairly simple? I was hoping you had a suggestion. Thanx
Astrological Necromancy added to the list of names for potential metal bands I may form in the future.
Thank you for sharing
Thank you Dr Justin🙏🏽
the demon in the mirror joke was a banger lol
Wow this was great thank you very much.
fate condemning you to hell kind of sounds like pre-destination
You are still co-pilot with fate. You can dance or not dance when it asks you to dance.
@@ulyssesm.daniels6927 this definition of fate is not one I have heard before.
@aftereight7505 it's part of the end of the book Blood Meridian. Basically you will end up in certain situations where you will have the choice to participate or not, if you "dance" you participate in what fate had available for you, if you don't you miss your opportunity and potentially fail to fulfill your potential. In the book the protagonist had the opportunity to kill a man that would later come back and kill him, and he was told "take the shot now or your soul is forfeit" and he hesitated and didn't shoot and thus maybe 20 years down the line that man, The Judge returns to the man's life to kill him.
@aftereight7505 Cecco definitely could have been less arrogant and not so sure he understood his own fate more than what his immediate reality told him. He kind of created a self fulfilling prophecy about himself and being so sure his actions wouldn't cause it. To hold the prior metaphor, he shouldn't have "danced" for them, his enemies. He gave them all the ammunition they needed because of his arrogance, because he just couldn't help himself but be combative with those who poised a threat to him.
Heard about this channel from Douglas on the What Magic is this podcast..
True buried treasure.
I tried to like this 3 separate times, forgetting that I had already liked it. Great video :))
“Flat earth vicious stupidity“ is my favorite phrase of the day!
Top tier lecture
That’s crazy I just watched this video on the 26th of September. RIP Cecco
Gotta say I was sweating it, Doc. 28:00 into this video and No mention of Treasure?!
Lol!
Thank heavens, you didn’t let me down!!😂
#101 who liked this video 👍- Thanks Dr. Sledge for keeping the content going 🙌🥹🙏
Please make more videos about medieval magic and heresy
You comme ts on flatearthers is classic! Thank you so much!
I’ve been enjoying your videos so much. Wondering What the name of that book was? The “Spiromundi?” Captions are calling it “Fire Monday” lol
Excellent work, as always!
It is interesting that the medieval Irish tales will often have ghosts/dead people, as well as demons, in the upper atmosphere as well, often with the latter tormenting the former. There's one tale in particular that I'd have to tell you at length that is especially interesting in this regard, having to do with apostasy, the Irish notion of Fir Flatha (Truth/Justice of Rulers), and...yep, you guessed it: tribadism! I've given several papers and published a few articles on this tale, and even did a re-telling of it in Parabola several years back...it's one of my favorites. Anyway...!?! ;)
Not only the scholars of 1230 have us beat on acknowledging that the Earth is spherical, but the authors of the commentaries on some of the early Irish poems in the 7th and 8th century also understood this, and in fact Virgil of Salzburg's trial for heresy is based in an extension of this belief! "Virgil" is the Latinized name of an Irish cleric (probably named Fergal or something similar originally) who was a missionary to the Continent during that time (8th century), and there's a whole discussion involved there, too!
Looking forward to speaking further soon, I hope!
I want this insight✨💯🙏🏽
21:00 Told my partner about the demons being up behind the moon and she just said "fighting evil by moonlight" and now I have more absurd RPG ideas...
Great video, as usual. Love the Dee bust on your shelves.
Awesome!
This is honestly one of the funniest videos on RUclips
When courage, arrogance and belief in your own invincibility is taken to 11 🤨
Thanks!
The idea of a ham necromancy ring technician exam tickles me an inordinate amount. I may have to work that into my science-fantasy stories
I see a very early depiction of someone going super saiyan and I see the connection.
Astral necromancer sounds like a new dnd campaign to me
Are we all gonna ignore the fact that this guy was, seemingly and consistently, correct in his predictions? Guy is doing legit astral magic and divinations, of course he is going to be an intolerable jerk. If I thought I knew where I was going to die, and always stayed away from there, I'd probably get smug with some people too. Emphasis on "thought I knew"
I mean if you mean by right he was pretty vague then yeah but also this is a lot of legend mixed in with history so it's really hard to trust some of these sources. In fact, Thorndike doesn't even include many of these sources because they're significantly later and probably unreliable
@@TheEsotericaChannel Fair enough haha. Although I really wish it were all true and he cracked the code thanks to the stars being in his favor but the same stars set him up. But I guess the real tragic fall is the people we insulted along the way.
Your on fire🔥 bro. Keep that flame a burning😊
You should read the novel "Memoirs of a Gnostic Dwarf" by David Madsen. A great book about heretics in Renaissance Italy.
You could argue thats a lil demonic in its self to have someone use floron to find treasure then take it from them
Thank you.
Saucepan of floron?
Bless you
Thanks
I would have loved to have my chart casted by him. No joke here, I'm an aries, it's in my nature.
L'eretico and Il Maestro Degli Errori apparently are both films made about him.
In light of your black metal merch, would you please consider covering the topic of Norse Gods Vs Christianity?
Will the Norse gods are all trained warriors, however they are bound by the power of fate, while the Abrahamic God controls the powers of fate and death itself, so he should win.
That is what you meant, right? (Lol jk)
@@hobbyhorse5848 well more in light of how they built all the churches on sacred Norse sites but yeah, heh, in a nutshell and who is will dude?
Necromancy, not something I expected here.
In a channel about esotericism? It seems quite appropriate to me
Ooo the black arts
You need to binge watch
Go check the back catalogue. You'll find some more to chew on.
I didn't expect to hear about finding hidden treasure.