This will Save this Horse's Life!
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- This has been a very dangerous horse. The training I am doing with him breaks all the rules of horse training but this will save his life. Right now his life path is not good.
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Can't imagine why anyone would react negatively to this video. This horse is lucky to have brought to you! Kudos to the owner for seeking your help.
Right thing easy, wrong thing hard is parenting 101. Wish more people would apply it.
Why would people think he is being harsh with this horse. He is teaching him beautifully. What is the problem. This horse is lucky he got Tim.
A bit of tough love is better than ending up in a tin of dog food
Ryan Rose uses the same hard work philosophy with horses to get them to want to cooperate in a happy agreeable way! No abusive treatment needed.
Regarding the stopping portion at the end, I literally laughed out loud because I’ve had to get creative about my super spooky Imported Dutch, who’s very talented and athletic.
1) for spooking, my trainer insists that all I need to do is shoulder-in and ride him through his spooks, which I couldn’t disagree with more. To your point, there needs to be incentive to behave, so simply getting good at riding doesn’t train him. Instead, it trains me. My theory is that, while I can’t make him not spooky, I can sure make the act of spooking uncomfortable, so upon a spook, he gets the crap worked out of him until he’s refocused on me, and then we move along.
2) while lunging, he’s conditionally receptive to my downward transition commands, so at the canter, if I tell him to trot, he’s got a half circle before I reengage him and demand he canter for several more minutes. I then recue and tell him to trot. If I’m ignored again, he’s told to canter for several more minutes. One day, after several rounds of oversight on his end, resulting in significantly more work, which left him exhausted and drenched in sweat, he never misheard me again.
Tim ,each time I watch you I become more and more impressed ..... and that isn’t easy .
Been riding and working with horses most of my life .... at 3 years old starting off with a pony and I am now 60.
We are never to old to learn . Many Thanks 😊
The kill trucks are full of horses with problems that the owners will not address for one reason or another.
You couldn't be more right! I've had horses for 50 years and the problem has gotten much worse.
People used to ride more, put up with less guff from their horses, kept them turned out without a ton of high test sweet feed and horses were better off.
I am definitely happy that more people have taken kinder training methods to heart, but you can be too soft.
My go to mantra is I'm as soft as the horse will let me be, but as hard as I need to be. It's no joke when dealing with a 1000+ lb animal.
Sadly, there are less and less good, experienced trainers like Tim that will even take on problem horses. There are many TikTok trainers that try it to the detriment of the horse.
@@tracyjohnson5023 you are absolutely correct. I don't know if it's the prevalence of line breeding or the fact that horses today are kept in such contained circumstances they're afraid of everything...owned by owners who buy into the namby pamby kind of discipline... I mean look at some kids these days.
My TWH would NOT let me get on him today in the outdoor arena. Kept moving 2 steps back as soon as I got on the mounting block. He's 16'2 and I'm 68 yrs old, so yes, I have to use a block. I tried lunging, backing him, moving his feet back to where I asked him to stand, everything I could think of and he just would not stand. So, after almost 45 mins of this, I took him in the indoor arena and held a whip in my hand, tapped him on the hip, (NO, I did NOT hit/whip him!) and he stood like a perfect gentleman!! Needless to say, he got a good workout and was tired when we quit. Sometimes, you just have to do what you have to do.
You’re really just so, so good. I loved your first minute in which you said, “well, if you’ve got a negative comment, it’s probably because you’ve never had to deal with a horse this dangerous.” Bingo. I’ve got a neurotic KWPN at a pretentious dressage facility where they maintain the ignorant position that being a good dressage rider is synonymous with being a good horse person. Obviously, that couldn’t be further from the truth, and you see the egregious and dangerous behaviors of the horses excused by their handlers and riders simply because they look nice under saddle. I’ve owned my horse for 9 months now, and I didn’t even ride him for the first several months upon getting him because he was completely nuts. I’m still working through his mental challenges and his utter lack of respect for people, and he’s drastically coming around, though now I’m trying to bridge the developing ground manners and training with his under saddle respect. Needless to say, he’s not fond of the work, and onlookers are horrified by my treating him like the dangerous and unpredictable 1300 pound animal he is as opposed to a sweet natured kitten. The first thing I say to these opinionated people is what you began your video with…
There is a world of difference between a rider & a horseman (woman) & all the ribbons & money can't make a rider a horseman if all they care about is 'looking good' in the saddle & let poor behavior slide or worse yet blame the horse.
Thanks for showing us the good, the bad and the ugly. People need to see stuff like this so they don’t get hurt.
Not only a true horseman, but a phenomenal teacher too🎉
Just let those Negative comments roll off your back. Your end results are amazing. There was no mistreatment going on here, just a firm hand and metal respect attained. Love how you explain your actions to us and how the horse is reacting. Im on your team.
That horse is learning how to recover quickly from mishaps. He is learning that life has challenges and he can get through it.
Working our horses is paramount to keep them gentle. This job is to be done by each owner themselves and regularly.
He is not a bad looking horse and has potential. He will be quite striking when he is toned up and in working shape.
I agree this horse was lucky to be brought to you. A spoiled dangerous horse is no fun and unless it is nipped in the bud could hurt or kill someone. Great video and thank you
They end up in the killer auctions.
I'm glad he's doing so much better. What you did to help him makes perfect sense to me.
Horse training isn't a one size fits all kind of thing. A good trainer will do what they have to do( without abuse of course) to hopefully make that horse a solid citizen. I don't see why anyone would be negative about this video. I know the owner will be appreciative that you did what needed to be done in the end. The horse will be happier as well.
Good job Buddy 👍
And thank you Tim for helping him become a better, and safer member of society.
Can't imagine why anyone would disagree with how you are approaching his training, considering that he wasn't able to be taught good horsey manners from his momma.
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I have seen Momma horses bite the snot out of their babies, and wallop them with their feet. If they don't baby ends up being a bully to people too. Horses only draw blood or severely injure with their hooves when needed. They know exactly how to do both, in play, as discipline, fighting a predator and everything in between. Occasionally accidents happen, but they are rare. Trust your horse with other horses if they are all well socialized.
I can’t see why anyone would criticize what you are doing. You were not abusive at all. Your videos are very informative!!
I completely agree. Treat him like his mama would/should have treated him, or maybe an older gelding.
It's great that you show difficult horses, no negativity from me
Thanks for another great video. Like I have said before, you are helping me to become a better horsewoman . I am 77 yrs. young and still trying to improve my horsemanship skills. You are never too old to learn.
It's akin to those boot-camp-style reform programs for troubled youth. My state has a highly successful one, but some of those kids think they've been sent to hell or to prison for the first couple of weeks. By the end, most are grateful and go on to do well. This horse's owner did the right thing and he's already reaping the benefits. Viewers who may doubt your words should find the Buck Brannaman documentary showing a hand-raised, babied horse that badly hurt its handler and had to be put down because the owner failed to see the problem until it was too late.
Great lesson - you’re ensuring he will not end up in a bad place. Tough love! ❤
Horse I'm on was abused so bringing her back was tough, however teaching her my way was the easy way was instrumental. Long and slow process but it worked. 4 time state champion, 5 time honor roll horse
I absolutely love your videos, Sir. I rode in my teens, but not since then. I still love horses and thoroughly enjoy watching these. Thank you so much!
my first horse was a bottle baby, rescued at 14months out of a kill pen. boy was she classically stubborn and dangerous. did not want to go. took her to a great horse trainer, that gave her the option to say "no". which she put a lot of effort into. then the trainer put her in the round pen with rider, and cracked a bull whip over her motor. the trainer never touched her. she choose to go forward. she became the best most honest horse from that day forward.
Ol' Buddy, Ol' Pal was blessed with the opportunity to choose life when his owner had the wisdom to send him to you! Already seeing hope for his future. ❤
Very grateful for you, Mr. Anderson. You keep it real and practical.
Thankyou Tim, excellent video and life changing/saving.
I didn't know these things back in the day and suffered for it.
I Worked for a trainer yrs. Ago and we got a mare in that had been with 2 other trsiners. The mare would be good and then rear up and go over. I was riding her and quick enough to jump off. What we did to cure her I wont say but it took only 3 times and she stopped . Pita would be crying, but she didnt end up in a cann.
Yes there are many training techniques that you will never see on social media. Social media has forced training to change but in many ways it has been to the detriment of horses like you described because now days a technique like that would not be used and the horse will end up in a kill pen.
Only people that would complain would be someone who has never met a bottle feed horse with no respect for humans they are down right dangerous. I have bottle feed one to return and be subjected to his behavior years later you couldn't walk him off pasture he was so unpredictable. Your honesty about horses is why you are followed.
Thanks again Tim great work .
Wow I think this is amazing--
Good job Mr tim I like your a lot not good
Tell the truth! Awesome
WHAT?? 2 loud commercials just slapped me in the kisser!
Hurrumph!
Yeara ago had a mare like this horse, I gad to work long abd hard to stop all her bad habbits and never trusted my small children to vw near her. How anyone would think your training of this horse is bad are silly thank you for this video . Just so you know I dud stop the vad habbits of the mare and she became my best lesson horse.
Morning guys, glad you made the video. Ty Tim.
I have seen this before with hand raised horses. Takes special handling to get their mind to click and get a different understanding of a human being in charge. Tge owner brought him to the right trainer. Thumping on him would only make him mean. I like the way you are working with him. If he does not improve and his mind get better under your training I think he may never improve.
Well done, So admire you.
Excellent information, thank you Tim.
It's a necessity with a bottle baby to get them a horse buddy asap that will teach them to behave if you can't get a nurse mare.
The other thing that helps is to get them on a milk bucket as soon as you can or at least use a bottle hangar so they're not seeing the human as mama.
So true! Great lesson. Horses are working animals and they need set rules. Just like humans 😊
Nice work.
Love this video Tim
Not sure why anyone would have a problem with this video? Great lesson and sound training principles that are aligned with the horse's psyche. Lucky horsy to have landed on your lap!
Guess I missed this video some how. Great work and all good advice. Mommas teach their babies so much about how to behave and respect, just like humans, or any other species for that matter, if you are missing your momma life growing mom is really hard
What is this colour horse called. I’m not sure it’s palomino. You are right to show all aspects of training. Great video
I'm glad you did make this video., and Kudos to the owner for sending him to you. He's a lot happier ,willing horse for you being a bit hard on him , and he understands that. Most good trainers can be hard on a horse but never unfair, and know when to release the pressure and reward. Many of us spend our lives trying to be better leaders for our horses , but the likes of me, have only started 9 or 10 horses compared to the thousands you have done, so still in newbie land methinks🤣
Amazing !! Just amazing what an improvement .Good job Tim
Question: no spurs on this one? I just wondered because I have learned a lot of good lessons from you regarding the proper use of spurs and I was just wondering about that in the previous video. Looks like you use them now.
I usually take them off when putting the first few rides on a horse. I put them back on when I start asking the horse to move its body around.
This was a good lesson, thank you. He seems better behaved since last time, you are great at training horses
Good work! Everything you said made so much sense. ❤
Excellent thank you 😊
Could you repeat please how you manage with hay allergies??? I could not understand from video. Thanks!!
I give them over the counter zyrtec bought from amazon. It has been pretty effective for me. Consult your vet though.
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I will never put a negative comment.
Now, will the owner be able to follow through, and maintain his training?
That is why I started doing these videos, so te owner would have a reference for what I did with their horse.
He is too big and too powerful to be out of control. He could seriously hurt somebody. My mare started acting up this way when I first got her and I had to crack on her hard a few times. Breaking ones back in two places changes everything.
I would say this is a people problem not a horse problem. All this horse is guilty of is doing what he believes is the right thing. It's learned behavior.😊
Hi Tim, I have an unstarted Dales pony….. have you ever worked with that breed or have any connections to trainers that have experience with them. I’m in Pensacola, so relative to location would be amazing
He turned 3 May 1st this year
I have worked with a lot of breeds but not that one. I don't know anyone who has.
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Would you be interested in training one?
@@teamsolarr9395how big is he?
IM SURE YOU KNOW THIS BUT IF YOUR HAY HAS MOLD OR DUST IT WILL MAKE THEM COUGH, WE FEED OUR OWN HAY CUZ THE BARN HAY I GARBAGE AND HALF THE HORSES COUGH FROM IT, ITS REALLY STEMMY TOO, THE FARMER CUTS IT LATE
Actions and consequences
Saw a tic tok where the girl jumping her horse patted him when he refused a jump, and so many tic tokers praised her. Im not abusive but U dont pat a horse for doing bad. Start back with sonething the horse can jump and check yourr skills. Rider position has a lot to do wuth the horse
What dosage of zyrtec do you give a horse? I have a horse with problems and want to try it on him to see how it helps.
Talk to your vet to get a dose that is right for your horse.
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Hand reared horses are definitely a big no for me. If anyone has watched the movie "Buck" with Buck Brannaman, the very dangerous palomino horse that attacks people in that movie was an orphan. The (clueless) owner who brought the horse to Buck's clinic said that when the horse was a foal he had been in the house with her in diapers. Worse still, the horse was a stud and not gelded. Unsurprisingly, Buck couldn't help her
I am very familiar with that horse in that movie. He was a stallion with made everything worse.
@@timandersonhorsetraining Yeah, I think she had 17 stallions for some reason... some people definitely shouldn't own any horses
@@kidstuff4455517 stallions?? 🤨🧐😵💫🫨🥵
I want the truth.
Is that Trigger? He always looks curious, not paying attention, maybe bored. I bet the more challenges he has the better he will be.
No that's not Trigger.
I don’t see anything that is out of bounds. A dangerous horse will be a dead horse unless someone like you shows him the light.
I have seen this before with hand raised horses. Takes special handling to get their mind to click and get a different understanding of a human being in charge. Tge owner brought him to the right trainer. Thumping on him would only make him mean. I like the way you are working with him. If he does not improve and his mind get better under your training I think he may never improve.