Delay in Rafale Delivery : Problem
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India should take this opportunity of sourcing Titanium and Nickel alloys from Russia as we did with Russian Oil.
Ooooo😮😮😮😮😮
R they rich in minerals
Y@@sanjayhiremath9297
@@sanjayhiremath9297 yes Russia has many minerals at home..and NOW they have African countries from where they can get these for India
@@mayanktripathi8726
Won't they need it for their own fast depleting military?
Western Media : Russia doesn't have the metallurgical technology to make advenced engines.
also them : Russia has stopped supplying us Nickel-Titanium alloys ; we cant manufacture aircraft engines without them.
There's a difference between having resources like different metals but it's another thing to know how to utilise and use those in the best possible way
रूस पर प्रतिबंध 5-6 साल से पहले खत्म होने वाले नहीं हैं। इसलिए इन्जन के उत्पादन की समस्या एक साल में सुलझने वाली नहीं है; बल्कि रूस पर प्रतिबंध लगे रहने तक रहेगी। यहाँ भारत के पास Business Generate करने के 2 विकल्प हैं।
1- भारत रूस के साथ मिलकर भारत में Titanium Alloy का उत्पादन करे और इन्जन के पार्ट बनाने वालों को सप्लाई करें।
2- भारत इन्जन बनाने वालों से पार्ट बनाने का ऑर्डर ले और रूस से Titanium Alloy लेकर इन्जन के पार्ट बनाकर सप्लाई करे।
Only solution is make own engine , engine testing facility produce some more SU 30 MKI
This was the reason why Mig 35 with complete ToT under MRFA would be the most benificial to us despite it's lacklusture export performance. There would be almost no issues with it's mass production be it raw materials and engine and we could've easily integrated our indeginously developed technologies like AESA radar, RWR, Jamming pods, missiles, etc.
i think su57 will be a good choice
@@vishvajitkumar9497 Su57 in high numbers will be very costly to maintain. Plus the Geopolitical implications of having 100+ Russian 5th gen fighter is another issue we need to consider.
Instead, buying 24 to 36 Su 57s will be enough to suppress our enemies for 15 more years and these may also help us understand some of the advanced 5th gen tech for AMCA
Why Russia isn't acquiring Mig-35 ? There is nothing like Complete TOT in any Defense deal
Alright...so why is s400 delayed till 2029? Russia is bullshitting us into yet s500 deal.
- Same was the case with Rafale. They said if India gives 100 jets order, they can do tot. But with alloy parts sanctioned all these were making fool of us. So is GE's claim.
Mig 35 is just an upgraded version of mig29 and it have higher radar cross section compared to typhoon and rafale
Work on kaveri, slowly but steadily keep working on systems, processes...increase R&D budget...apney Ghar ki roti Pizza se hamesha better hoti hai....
India has the 3rd largest Titanium reserves in the world, about half that of China, and 11% of all global reserves. However India does not mine and produce it in enough quantity locally. DRDO already has developed tech to produce titanium sponge from ore in 2011, and there are a few companies that produce it in very small quantities. Its time to scale that up big time!
India industries can explore the opportunity to supply critical titanium parts by transfer of technology by French and supply of titanium and titanium alloy from Russy.
Problem is not few months delay of tejas mk1a delivery. Problem is can Tejas fight against J20? China will have 1000 J20 by 2024 and in next 3-5 years also 500+?? Problem is India has no concrete plan to buy Rafale or better than Rafale
Roz ek Naya bahana
This is not a problem at all. The moment you place order and release 30 percent advance your intended job is done. We may wait endlessly for delivery it hardly matters.
If problem with engine is global and choke point in Russia. Why not put kaveri in mission mode, Russia se titanium to India ko modiji dila he denge. Ye hojayegi 1 teer se 2 shikar wali bat
We should spent more money to develope indigenous technologies.
Relying on other countries for fighter jets and other defence equipments can create problem for India in upcoming times.
I think titanium Russia se achi quality ka ata hai sr 71 Mai bhi vahi use hua tha
kaveri kaveri kaveri jindabadh ❤️❤️
Kaveri will need the same material bro..
One of the biggest reasons we are struggling with engine making is our lack of technological capacity in manufacturing niche materials
@@JSINGH14192 bro abhi hume use mass produce nhi hai bss use bahtar bnana hai aanw wale 2,3 saal meh ki wo 90kn tak pohch sake ispe hamara focus hona chahia yeh sab news sunn ne k badh
Bharat. Sarkar ko hum sab pressure lagaana chahiye ,taaki M414 Engine dheere se HAL ko General Electric ne delivery.
Pehle, ye deal ke sambandh, Paper work, yaani offical document work jyaada speed mei hona chahiye.
Ek baar Government to Government vyavahar teji se hona chahiye.
We need our engine. No other options
मेरे ख्याल से तीर कमान खरीदने पर फोकस करना चाहिए...😂
Underrated comment 😂😂👍👍
😂😂😂😂 , gussa or hassi dono aa rahi hai mujhe
Ye bharwe usko khareedne me bhi 50 saal lagayenge.
this is why we need Aatmanirbhar Bharat
every foreign supplier, whether friendly like France or frenemy like US will do whatever they like and not bother to stick to contract...because kya ukhad loge. also, we have to understand, because of these supply chain issues and delays, any supplier will prioritize domestic orders and exports will not get priority, so this can become a major delay
not to ignore the china angle and sabotage attempt on Bharat by choking Titanium to Dassault
Whites are never friends of anybody.
Production shift karwado India pe, hum Russia se titanium alloy mangwa lengey
India me production line daldo hame Russia se alloys mangwa lenege😂.
Don't worry they will manage. 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 लगता हे नेता airforce को 15,16Sqadron पर लाक हि मानेंगे 😂😂😂😂😂
जितना कमजोर militery उतना मजबूत Power रहेगा नेता वोन के हाथ में
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India should buy more su30MKI and Tejas mk1 to maintain its depleting fleet till the other fighter jets mass production don't start and then we could sell or retire the extra su30MKI and Tejas mk1 to other countries which are willing to buy second hand fighter plane 😊😊😊
@RanjitDas: even to buy Tejas mk1 we need to get engines from US if US won't provide engines how are Tejas mk1 going to fly without engines?? And now a shortage of Titanium alloy...
@@anuragjyrwa6134
Hence the reason Kaveri is being moved ahead with urgency.
At a bare minimum, having Su-30MKI and Tejas MK1 operational will be sufficient for a defence in the event of war.
@@mtrest4 kaveri will take hell lots of time to get certified and then get tested so we are not seeing it fly within these 2 years...
Under this circumstance as Russia produce Titanium alloy,it will be better to go with SU 57(a fifth gen fighter - better than Rafale),also we will get it quickly as cuurently no country will buy this jet ,but there is a fear of US sanction !
Technically algeria 12 su57 are on order and malaysia and vietnam wants to sign deal but CAATSA sanctions
India should go with russia ,current situation ,and timeline adverse for india
Har chij me hum log delay he chal rhe hai😅
France ka delay hai, india ka nahi
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For the video, not for the delay.
The disclaimer put above is necessary here , else some morons may make my comment viral & start some unnecessary controversy that MSM media might debate on.
Increase Su30MKI
100 su57
In the era of stealth fighters and long-range BVR, it's quite a strategy to rely on the Su-30MKI-a flying lighthouse that practically announces its presence on radar the moment it takes off. It's like sending a marching band to a stealth mission.
@muhammadishaq561 we can manufacture Su30MKI in India and I don't think Russia would mind more business. We need numbers.
@@gajanan251175 Yes you can manufacture Su30mki but you need Russian permission, russian spare parts and Russian engines.
For navy bro, Rafael M.
When India chooses a Defence product, 10 other countries follow & choose the same product 😂 Mfg gets over booked
As a stop gap measure india should buy limited numbers of Su 35 fighters from Russia on emergency basis.
As a stop gap measure india should stop being dependent on other countries and instead look into fixing its own defence industry.
@@tejasvishwanath2028
Stopping dependence is an long term plan
In case of any deficiency in squadron strength
You will have to import
@@aliarham7158 yeah at some point import reliance needs to stop and self reliance needs to improve for us to be a major power. But instead, we bitch about one country and go beg from other. And the cycle continues.
@@tejasvishwanath2028
Slowly but steady
Don't expect self reliance untill you are able to make engine and avionics of world class quality
Your armed forces just won't accept anything of average quality
Govt. is responsible for this situation.....why they ordered only 36 rafale aircrafts at that time instead of 126 😢😢😢
Paisa kaun dega?
It's not trustworthy the depend on them
If Mig 35 gets Indian radar, sensors, electronics, mission computers and armaments it will be a good enough option not the best but will work well. At least we will have a workable solution.
Does your air force trusts Russian engines??
Only sensible option seems to be restarting Su30 MKI production but this time with super sukhoi upgrades. 126 (7 sqn) more su30 MKI at Super sukhoi standard will certainly go a long way.
Delay In Delivery, hamare liye tou ye mehaj ek bahana bhar hai, ab dassault ki problems se hame keya jab hamne apni IAF ke liye rafael ki koi deal hi nahin ki.😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
We dont have supply chain issues we can make engines in India. If we can get Kaveri engine ready quickly we would have no issues
Great explanation
MRFA- karte rahiye meeting meeting..
Why can’t we produce more Su-30 MKIs locally, incorporating the latest upgrades being done by HAL? This would help the Indian Air Force maintain its squadron strength without the need for the MRFA. Additionally, could we secure a deal for AL-41 engines at a reasonable price?
Atleast manage two squardons for 5th gen jets by 2030-2032 Till thn complete all work on Teja Mark2 and start delivery of jets on a war footing.
Keep calm, things are better in backstage
Quality video, bro.
To koi baat nhi bahut sare air difance system bana kar laga lo apna agar nahi jayega to dusre ka aayega wo bhi wapas nhi jayega
Jai Hind jai Hind ki Sena
+ Rafale delayed
+ Tejas delayed
+ Mk2 delayed
+ TEDBF delayed
+ AMCA delayed
+ MRFA delayed
+ MRTT delayed
+ Mig 29 delivery delayed
+ 12 Su30mki delayed
+ Super sukhoi DELAYED
+ 15 Sea Guardian delayed
+ 16 Sky Guardian DELAYED
+ P8i DELAYED
It's almost like delays have become India's national pastime. 😂😂😂
...Also infinite delay in HAL Tejas MK 2 delivery.
India should ask Russia to make an exception for India in supplying the necessary metals for engine construction of planes it has ordered from France.
We should start focusing on alpha wing man drones for now until till the engine problems get sorted.
Understood a lot
Yes we need more information in fact we need a podcast min 2hrs
Yehi sahi time russian side ke saath deal kar lete hai, Raw titanium ko do badale mein Brahmos Aerospace like JV banake hum india mein titanium alloys ka manufacturing start karenge isse dono ko faida hoga aur saath hi domestic & foreign needs ko cater bhi kar payenge, isse hume ek bargaining tool mill jayega jab hum negotiation ke liye baithenge. E.g (MRFA ko locally manufacturing, se leke GE ko TOT transfer tk)
भारत सरकार को अमेरिका के साथ रोल्स रॉयल्स , और उसके साथ जो दूसरी कंपनी अच्छे इंजन बनाती है उनके साथ मिलकर उनका एक एक प्रोटोटाइप लेना चाहिए और टेस्ट करना चाहिए फिर जिस कंपनी के इंजन अच्छे है उन कंपनियों से थोड़े थोड़े इंजन लेना चाहिए जिससे किसी एक कंपनी के इंजन लेट हो जाए तो प्रॉब्लम इतनी नही होगी
New research: alternative alloy for aircraft engines.
Would love for you to cover more such intricacies.
We should get Russia to sell us Titanium alloys through INSTC corridor & use it to further develop & enhance GTRE Kaveri , mate it with Tejas program again. No other option. Midhani & Godrej Aerospace need to be roped in for making afterburning section of GTRE Kaveri.
136 Su57
JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
If we will be able to maintain stable relation with China then we could delay the acquisition of new aircrafts. Good Diplomacy could reduce burden on our forces
Su 57 - apun abhi bhi idhar e khadela hai
Watch out for turkey klijma drone UAV which can take on fighter jets we should swiftly move in that direction with (swift) and aura we should convert tejas trainer into Unmanned air craft and testbed for kaveri fast track kaveri certification and kaveri 2.0 if there are certain accident in fast tracking absorb it and move forward with loyal wingman and unmanned stealth drone powered with kaveri atleast 150 in 10 years things will be sorted in future we can improve upgrade them 😊😊and MRFA can be completed with 8 gen in year 2124
Sir kya aap itna hi simplicity k saath explain kr skte hai k hum wo titanium alloy bana skte hai ya kitna banate hai ya kya status hai...n kya hume ismein b atmanirbharta ki aur badhna chahiye...taki ye market hume mile and bharat ka faida ho...jai hind...vaise awesome videos do din se aa rhe hai...dil khush hogaya
Gusse se ek baat ah Rahi hai juban par.sabakuch khatm hone ke bad hi khareed lo
Yani Desh
In the era of stealth fighters and long-range BVR, it's quite a strategy to rely on the Su-30MKI-a flying lighthouse that practically announces its presence on radar the moment it takes off. It's like sending a marching band to a stealth mission.
All 4th gen jet are easily visible on radars
@@Vartik-jr4qr All 4th generation fighter jets, including those from various manufacturers and countries, are detectable on radars, though their radar cross-sections (RCS) vary significantly.
The Su-30MKI, in particular, has a relatively larger RCS due to its size and design, making it more easily detectable compared to some other 4th generation fighters.
It’s almost as if the designers wanted it to show up on radar screens as a giant neon sign. You could practically track it with a pair of binoculars. While other 4th generation jets try to keep a low profile, the Su-30MKI seems to enjoy being the center of attention.
@@muhammadishaq561 you ever try to read the RCS of heavy 4th gen jets? Russian heavy 4th gen jets have least RCS in the world-
Su30 RCS is 4 sqm
F15e RCS is 15 sqm
Su35 RCS is 1 sqm
F15ex RCS is 25 sqm
@@Vartik-jr4qr Oh, absolutely, the Su-30MKI is practically a stealth fighter-if you consider "stealth" to mean "visible from space."
@@muhammadishaq561 madarsa chaap he na tu?
We don't have control on foreign manufacturers and suppliers.
But we had control on our own.
But we don't have heart to expand internal manufacturing units by allocating sufficient funds.
1st thing our defense minister shld resign and take any other portfolios.
Rop depends on order size and not vice versa, until iaf signs order, why would the production be ramped?
@@hiteshadhikari okay.
Yesterday when my son went to buy bread, i told him if bread is not available buy Bun. What is plan B?
MMRCA cancellation was the mistake. It would have fulfilled Indian needs now after a decade.
Hmm, India have good and balanced relation with Russia. If the f404 engine production line was there in India, then mk1a was not facing such issue as we can buy the required materials from Russia same as that of cruide oil. Seems like we will not face any such issue for f414.
Is there any ongoing research to seek replacement of said alloys
It is a weird opinion but along with Rafael, Tejas variants and AMCA Bharat should explore option of Super Sukhoi by adding its 2-3 squardons as a stop gap to fill up deficit due to retirement of Mig 21 and delay in Tejas, AMCA and GE issue and looking to extend services of Jaguar and Mirage 2000. I know the role of these aircrafts are different, can not be exactly match with Sukhoi and vis versa. One more positive is the production line of Sukhoi is hot so logistics should not be an issue.
should we go for more su35, so we can compensate our declining squadron strength, because it is obvious that responsibility of our existing su30mki will increase,
what is your opinion about it sir??😊
Order he nhi hai aur humlog yha production aur titanium ke liye tension le rhe, even acceptance of necessities ka document nhi aya hai.
Due to this delay how to maintain the air squadron strength. Can we see 2 or 3 squadron additional purchase of India made Su 30 MKI
Poor planning and laal salam naukarshaahi ne, naa ghar kaa rakha or naa ghaat ka.
Ha France me Naukarsahi hai
@@AlphaDefenseHindi france waale apna ghar baakhoobi chala rahe hai. Or wahan kii Naukarshaahi bhar bhar ke defence exports kar rahi hai puri duniya mai.
25 - 50 Bhartiye maansikta waale sarkari naukarshaahi chodh do france mai, 10 saal mai saffran or baaki industry ko ofb, hal jaisa bana denge.
Bahatar h missile pe dhyan do.
To counter aircraft, to counter enemy missiles, to hit others from own land.
Engine Company wale jyada he ghamand dikha raha h.
May be Indian air force should go with airforce varient of TEDBF...as they are not going to get MRFA fighter till 2030 at least...
Govt is fully responsible for this mesh. We start process of procurement of aircraft after commissioning of our aircraft carrier and expect it to be available as per our wish just like we go to market and purchase vegetables whenever we want. Problem is that we Indians consider ourselves as most intelligent on this planet, whereas we are the most corrupt creature on this planet. These projects require very long term planning and a wisdom to visualise the hurdels of future but we are the most intelligent on this planet so we can do anything
We have no other option left..india should go for staggered purchase..36+26 model with local assembly line and further we will go for another batch of 36 rafel fighter aircraft.. IAF should also consider f35 purchase from US as a j20 counter part..Trump administration will make this deal easier for indian govt
Thanks for the analysis sir, keepup good work. I have a question, HAL has manufactured 2 aircrafts of MK1A with existing engines, but why it's not delivered to IAF?
Because seeing the delay IAF and HAL decided to do some more software upgrades and some modifications in LRU resulting in recertifications that is going on
Why Indian government has not gone ahead with MRFA ?
Can't trust USA, UK & hence F15, F18, , Eurofighter are out.
Saab Gripen is only assembled in Sweden ; all its parts are foreign. It is a single engine fighter but still costs much more than many twin engine fighters. So
..Out.
Russian aircrafts are made & upgraded by HAL , whose employees have left spanners in the engine bay - Air force doesn't trust them & that's why also asked GE to supply the engine to Air force directly.
Dassault knows all this & sees Indian Air force as stuck & hence asking EXORBITANT price.
solution is Russian aircrafts made by private players in India, with complete ToT to not face any soare parts issues.
IAF should buy Russian Mig 31 and suk 35...thats the only option left...🙏🙏
Jaise humne oil refine kr kr k Europe ko bech diya waise e chaahe toh titanium bech denge 😊
Indian Air Force ko khud nahi pata ki unko chahiye kya hai😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If we had given order at 2018 it would have been different
aaj ki date mai kya hum 2 front war ke lie ready hain? Especially from Air force perspective..kya wo hara paenge ya haar jaenge? I never doubt on the abilities of our brave air force pilots but I do know that we will certainly be outnumbered!
What happened to 50% offset. Did they fulfill the requirements?
Since Bharat purchased Rafael fighter , production line has lit up like Christmas tree. Any future order by Bharat would be a long wait .
Is there any update on TEDBF……!!!!
We can turn adversity into opportunity by focusing even more on tejas mk2 and su30 upgrade problem is do we have not only technical (which we probably have) but professional managerial capacity to perform better than expectations on these projects. MRFA is not going to happen any time soon and even then no company in world will be able to deliver that order under 10 years after placing order. If we want to compete with china, we have to create miracles with our industry like they did. Just as you said imagine power of chinese industry that even partial sanctions on them can slow down advanced manufacturers like france.
प्रश्न यह है कि वायु सेना अभी तक राफेल की फाइल को क्यों दबाए। बैठी है। ? सीसीएस के पास अप्रूवल के लिए क्यों नहीं भेज रही ? दूसरा प्वाइंट यह है कि भारत और रूस के बीच तो व्यापार चल रहा है तो भारत सरकार रूस से टाइटेनियम खरीद सकती है । तीसरा प्वाइंट यह है कि टाइटेनियम का और ऐसे ही दूसरी rare मेटल्स का कोई lab विकल्प पर रिसर्च क्यों नहीं करते हमारे वैज्ञानिक ?
Just 1 year delay na...!
We don't have to worry about that....
MRFA is going to continue for the next 5+ years.... Dassault Aviation have more than enough time....
MRFA is like Birbal ki khichdi.
We will suffer hugely in case a war breaks out with China and Pakistan.
Pathetic state of important decision making in India.
We have good relationship with Russia, so we can purchase Titanium in bulk from Russia and shift French Rafael assembly line in India. So that we can produce Rafael under license from France. I hope if we conclude MRFA and ordered 114 Rafael, France should not have any hesitation with 100% TOT
Ab tak App kaha the gyani baba😅😅😅
India should import titanium from Russia and export to france
tejas mk2 under rated platform hai. Ye almost saari problems dur kar dega
what is plan B?
COMPARE INDIA VS CHINA AND PAKISTAN IN EVERY PART, MISSILES, JETS, ETC
There's whole Wikipedia pages on that
we should secure mines and rear earth reserves in africa and russia for over future manufacturing ( engine )
Only USA have productions and speedy delivery capabilities.
We have good trade terms with Russia. We should convince our foreign engine partner to start assembly line in india. And Indian vendors produce titanium alloy with russian raw material. Or we should change engine and ask Russia for local production of jet engines.
App ab tak kaha the gyani baba😅😅😅
@@freeclass2859 Gyan Dene ki tayari kar raha tha😀
India should try to get titanium from Russia. Dunno if someone is working on this angle... Surely hope they are!