Matt Rempe is a BIG PROBLEM for the NHL
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Is fighting on the way out of the NHL? If so, will it make the game worse?
I mean that dude got his throat cut. Could be an accident or could not be. I don't want see people die. From not fighting. I rather see fighting.
Keep fighting
Fighting has not killed a single NHL player and has only killed one player from what I’ve seen throughout 150 years of hockey history. Keep it in.
Fighting is a big part of what make hockey hockey. Keep
Better not be. Get a grip.
Any league that bans hits or fighting is killing the game
At the adult level, yes!
I do not want 7 year old kids getting bare knuckle fights that could lead to years of potential issues. Save that for the grown ups. When you’re fully developed, you can do whatever you want.
@@simoncaton1226 It’s not a problem until the boys are 10-11ish. Prior to that the fights are just funny. Gloves never come off, they all bunch up and shove each other like a mosh pit 😂
@simoncaton1226 I agree. But here's the thing
The game is physical, there are physical players at all ages and that's just part of the game. The kids just like me grew up watching players engage in fights (some of which were completely staged) and loved it.
Now no kids shouldn't be fighting without gloves and a helmet on nor would I encourage it but it does happen. It's part of the game.
Parents know the risks of signing their kids up, players learn to understand the risks as they get older. If you don't want to fight you don't have to. But if you do it's a choice. Just like drinking alcohol or smoking. There's consequences.
I don't think fighting is that serious, nor is frequently doing it. Hits to the head cause the most issues and all leagues have cracked down on that.
So no I don't support kids fighting, but if they choose its their decision and up to them and their families. I would prefer they settle it that way than to kick someone with a skate, slash them in the face, or run someone from behind or deliver a head shot. Those can cause far more damage.
I'd say there is a huge difference between banning hits generally (bad idea) and fights (perfectly fine to ban for me but I understand ppl wanting it to stay)
@@simoncaton1226 if you ban checking the kids will have a really bad wake up, when the hit the leagues with allowed body checks.
The fact that the UFC is broadcasted to the masses makes it mind boggling to me that people make such a big deal about fighting in hockey. It’s always been there, always will be. There are plenty of other sports with no fighting people can go watch if they can’t handle it
yea i dont get it nobody complains about mma or boxing because "theyre fighters its what they do" or somethin like that. but why cant hockey players be seen in the same type of light yk? theyre fighters its what they do
Exactly they’ll never remove fighting from the NHL it would destroy the league. They removed fighting from the QMJHL which just makes it more dangerous for players who want to take on an enforcer role in the NHL because there fighting skill won’t be as well developed compared to players from junior leagues that still allow fighting. Plus if you’re a super star player nobody’s just gonna beat the shit out of you, no player wants to be the reason Connor McDavids career ended early.
Problem is the canvas isn’t as hard as concrete and they aren’t wearing knives on their feet.
I’m a big fan of both sports but it’s definitely not the same. Hockey is probably more dangerous in terms of acute injury potential. And I’m sure hockey players also get CTE so idk man
A sanctioned bout, is a legal contract that a fight will take place under state rules and both parties agree. This is why its a crime to hit someone after the fight is over, as it is no longer part of the sanctioned bout and both fighters are beholden to the law of the land.
I don’t think this is a good comparison, hockey and UFC. I’m not against fighting in hockey, but its all a legal gray area. Mostly its a handful of jersey and whiffed haymakers so people don’t care. Whenever someone is genuinely hurt, is when these discussions take place again.
@Deeplycloseted435 yea but when was the last time someone was genuinely hurt during a fight? like serious serious injury? rick dipietro like 10 years ago or ray emery?? those are the 2 that come to mind and theyre both goalies.. and besides ray emery and jay beagle idt theres been many law suits due to a fight in the nhl in the last 20 years
The problem is people who don't understand hockey trying to change hockey.
Most of those who want to remove fighting understand hockey very well, they just don't have an emotional attachment to the fighting aspect of the game.
I know right, it's just an inherently dangerous gane. That's like taking head kicks away from ufc.
@@neeltheother2342Yeah, the ones who needed someone else to stand up for them to enforce the code.
@@neeltheother2342they might understand hockey but they don't know hockey. They likelynjust watch and have never played. At least not at a higher level
@@DavidRogers-by9swBut the UFC bans knees to a grounded opponent, soccer kicks, downward elbows, etc. Specifically for fighter safety and fair competition. All stuff other organizations allow still or have allowed at one point. Not really a great comparison.
I don’t want to remove fighting but we have to be honest about the dynamics and culture of it all as well. Not just the obvious stuff.
The Rempire State Building scored the 1st Ranger Playoff Goal in Game 1!
And we don't see enough fighting anymore!
Rempe has more goals in '24 playoffs then Matthews😮
Now that's comedy gold
@TheHat--Man it isnt true anymore though.....
@@Gl-my8fw, its a tie now but what team goes to next round ? Leafs or Rangers
Finished out the series with more than Ovi
Thank you for finding your ad revenues elsewhere than gambling
Lost your house on gambling?
@@_JamesBrownall you gotta know is how many people actually do lose everything gambling to realize it should not be advertised to the public
@@noahj.1232 The very first time I ever went into a casino, I won a thousand bucks. That set me up for about 2 years of gambling addiction. I managed to stop and don't gamble in any form now. Except of course, crossing the streets in a big city, that's always a gamble.
Honestly I’ve been at a cross roads. RUclips ad rates have dropped substantially since the pandemic, and if I want to keep doing RUclips full time at this point in my life (wedding, house, kids) I need to be an earner. I had a big sports betting deal offered to me which would do that. I personally sports bet responsibly, and my only thing is if I were to do a deal, it would be about being responsible.
I second this, Rob you’re a good human for not taking the gambling revenue. ❤
I used to have seasons tickets for the New Westminster Bruins in the '70's. In 4 years, I probably saw at least 500 1 on 1 fights, dozens of line brawls and probably a dozen bench clearing brawls. I find it Strange though how so many people claim they hate fighting in hockey yet when a fight starts they're standing up watching too.
several thoughts:
what kept hockey somewhat save despite its speed is the threat of being wrecked by a 2 m+ guy if you do something shitty
similar to the issue with boardchecks from behind becoming an issue, because players arent used to being chased and hit anymore compared to 90's 2000's and therefore not being ready on the boards
I think banning checking and fighting too early will lead to bigger injuries later on
I'd rather learn how to take a check when everyone weighs 50kg than 110kg :D
Should tell this to Ontarios hockey leagues. They might ban hitting in U14
The New York Rempes are my favorite hockey team...
Same
I think this video makes a solid point that if they were disallowed completely it would lead to nastier hits, and the reality is the dangers of a moving hit outweigh those of a 15 second severely encumbered goofy boxing match a hundred to one. I'd rather be punched in the face by a guy struggling to stay balanced than pushed into the boards from behind any day
I know it’s very rare, but the chance of getting knocked unconscious and hitting your head against the ice while totally limp *is* a legitimate health and safety concern.
At the end of the day nobody has to fight anybody, so maybe we just sort of shift the culture a bit so people don’t feel the need to take people on for pride or honor. Idk
@@AgxntOrange You will not eliminate bad guys that need to be fought, so you have to make sure your good guys are ready to step in. Sport has traditionally been used for exactly that, so that men have some form of combat so they don't take it to the street, as much.
Do you want some thug to just be able to rob a woman in broad daylight and have no man step in and fight out of honor for the woman? Well you have to reward his bravery, or else that woman is very likely to be killed if she resists, or robbed at the very least and possibly killed anyway. There have already been incidents of men not protecting women being attacked, and it's because your culture of no honor punishes men for defending innocent lives.
A culture without honor, means a culture with no good men, and no one who will fight for their fellow man. Sport engrains this in us as young lads, he hit my friend, I'll beat him up. Later a woman is attacked in the street, "that man is attacking a woman, I will go to protect her."
I do not enjoy going on such a long diatribe in regard to sport, but you brought up the asinine idea of eliminating honor.
@@AgxntOrangego watch soccer
Been apart of this debate since the hockey fight forums back in the day. Eliminate fighting and open the cracks for Matt Cookes to weasel in
With what we know about brain damage from sports, allowing people like Cooke to injure someone for life and continue to play is criminal. While I don’t condone fighting, at least the two guys choose to do it.
@@MassReelFishing correct and a hit to the body is just as bad for your brain as a potential punch, esc dirty hits you’re not prepared for. The main reason fighting is still around isn’t because of the fans, or they would remove the instigator rule, it’s because the fighters want it. Watching the Rangers play with Rempe seemed to just nullify Wilson and they seemed to play fearless.
Matt Cooke has weaseled in anyways (which I agree he should never have been able to)
If you consider Rempe did not make his full salary this year, he was closer to $30,000 a fight. Still a lot, but not $240,000.
This. And is he really going to be staying in the lineup all the time if he can't produce offensively (which admittedly he currently is doing)? Isn't the whole reason enforcers have become rare because there's no room on rosters for players whose only skills are violence-based? Also, he's not getting paid for the playoffs.
As veteran that got a lot of head trauma I respect the CTE argument but I think investing in better helmets and working on taking out hits to the head are more effective than taking out fighting but at the end of the day it will come down to owners and players Union
hits to the head are inevitable there will always be headshots even unintentionally. size and body position is very crucial and the game is so fast some players dont have the time to adjust their bodies according to a hit
Helmets could I only do so much I feel.
@@zoopie9935 yeah obviously like most things in life it will take multiple steps to improve but will never not be without some risk
@@janzkee obviously there’s no way to remove all risk but that doesn’t mean they can’t work to improve, also the players can adjust they are the best players in the world they will and do adapt every year
You can get a concussion without getting hit in the head anyways, the whiplash from a clean open ice hit can do just as much damage
Fighting makes the game BETTER! Helps keep your guys safe if the don't follow, "The Code."
Could "The Code" not be... codified (written down). And enforced by a power structure (example: a referee) rather than a vigilante opponent taking immediate and potentially unjust revenge?
@@joelsteve94no
Fighting on skates is not the same as real fist fighting. It's the speed on checks and high hits. Gordie Howe lived to 88. Nuff said.
I mostly agree with this, but with a few caveats:
- Individual cases probably aren't a good metric, but in general way back then the game was slower and average player size was smaller. So that would result in fewer chronic brain injuries on the whole.
- Howe took some nasty hits in his time and his son says there was a lot of cognitive impairment in Gordie's last decade and a half that would be consistent with repeated concussions.
- Even on skates a lot of this window of CTE cases comes from the days when enforcers were taking their helmets off an engaging in lengthy cocaine fueled hammer fests on each other's heads.
It's as if Rempe asked a coach "what do I have to do to make the NHL, and stay there?" and was told "you're a big guy, you've got to use that big body and play a physical game...make your opponents miserable." And, he listened.
I would double down and state the enforcer is needed in the NHL again. Paul Karyia and many more careers would have been much longer if they had an Semenko protecting them. Hits not fights are causing most of the head damage. Enforcers remove the cheap shots, especially on the star players.
If both hits AND fights are causing head injuries, why not remove both?
If cheap shots are a problem, why not remove the offenders non-violently (via a ref, suspension, etc.)?
@@joelsteve94because no one wants to turn hockey into another soft sport like soccer or basketball and no one would watch.
@@joelsteve94Remove hits? Go watch basketball dude 😂
@joelsteve94 why not embellish and flop around like you've been shot? Roll around holding your shin until the ref blows a whistle? Contact in an enclosed space at high speeds with men in excess of 180 lbs minimum with sticks will result in contact. What you are proposing is a different sport entirely
Let's be honest; people like hockey fights, and true fans of hockey know that there's an unwritten honorable Code of being an enforcer. Rempe, probably grew up watching and enjoying that aspect of the game and now he's trying to recreate it
this video solidified my love for hockey.
Exactly! Take out fighting & then players can’t police the game. More hits from behind & more boarding.. More dangerous!
PREACH!!! Hockey has more of what makes athletic competition compelling than ANY other sport. Therefore, and this is not hyperbole, hockey is objectively the MOST COMPELLING sport EVER CREATED by humankind.
The fight we want the most is Olivier-Rempe II. Olivier beat the ever living snot out of the kid. I expect him to deliver a bit of getback next season because both players will be on their respective rosters in 24-25.
Olivier is golfing and Rempe is scoring goals 😅
I really appreciate your insight and perspective on this topic!
Thank you for video!
Best hockey vids on the platform hands down, keep it up!
Very well elaborated, and good points. Thanks
What an excellent video. Well spliced, hilarious, thought-provoking, and pretty fun. Best hockey video essay of the year!
One solution could be, you get into a fight, you go through concussion protocol. If you have a concussion you sit out, if you don’t you keep playing
great video Rob!
Seeing McDavid in person is so true. I always heard and knew he was good and had seen it on video but i was fortunate enough to go to one of Vegas' playoff games last year vs edmonton and seeing him in person, just outskating everyone on the ice was remarkable.
The half Matt Rempe/Diego Lopes picture is amazing
i mean i think rempe needs to tone it down a bit but we cant remove fighting, its part of hockey.
No one is saying they need to remove it. He is a dirty player. The hits and injured players with illegal hits.
@@brittrugg2676 people are litterally saying to remove it and it has been banned at major junior levels of play
As someone who has played hockey for 10 years of my life it annoys me a bit that some people just watch hockey for the fighting
When you watch hockey , you see core life lessons . At the very core of it , don't be an asshole and you won't get punched in the chicklets .
Thing is, A) Fighting is part of the spectacle and B) The players, while comparatively broke college dudes in the world of premier league athletes, are still paid effectively retirement money on their first contract. A standard ELC is like 750/yr for 3 years plus preferential access to world-class medical personnel paid for by NHLPA insurance. You gotta take the big risks to get the big bucks, and bad hits are one of those risks (unintentional bad hits are a thing that happens when you're doing 25mph down the ice)
It's almost necessary, refs can't see everything you need the enforcers for when things are getting chippy with your stars.
As a hockey player fighting is simply part of the sport, its traditional lol not encouraged but once it goes down it goes down and that’s that. Feels like those against it probably haven’t played the sport. Checks are way more lethal than any fight if we’re discussing potential injuries, CTE, etc etc
i don't think the CTE danger in hockey is anywhere close to something like the NFL where linemen are taking hits to the head on every play
As someone who is a hockey fan/player from the UK, I’d say about 60% of people only watch hockey for the fights especially NHL
It fuels many leagues
Meh, Canadian fan here. I’ve never watched a game for the fights. I’ve always loved the good fights, but I’ve never watched the game for them. As a child, I found them exciting, yet having lived through the post-enforcer era, I didn’t find the game less exciting. Especially through the anti-fight era, it’s clear fighting has its place, but it doesn’t define the game. We used to expect 1 or 2 fights per game, and now it’s not uncommon to have a couple games without a fight. The fight still happens, and it still matters, but the game has become faster and more focused on skill than ever before. I love it. Break the code, get broken; but the focus is more on the talent, imo. The game is faster than it’s ever been, and the brief period of zero physical consequences seems to have departed as well. I really think this particular time is some of the best hockey we’ve ever seen. It’s seems the balance has been found, for the time being.
Dude.... this is hockey.. hes an enforcer that loves fighting. Hes bringing the role back
If you remove fighting, you’re going to increase the amount of cheap shots and dirty hits that happen in a game, which is going to lead to even more concussions and serious injuries. Fighting keeps that crap in check
1:56 The NBA has whistle stoppage that negates any, "Pace"...
It’s refreshing to hear/read positive opinions on fighting and not see people get torn apart by people who are “anti-fighting.” Coming out as pro-fighting in a lot of places online gets you ripped to shreds.
So what your saying based on fights÷salary's= bank .. so the goons have been playing us since the beginning. You are a hockey philosopher Rob bravo 👏 🙌
SOOOOOOO happy to see someone intimidate WILSON!
Fighting is the self policing. From cheap shot artist. To protecting teammates. Or just good ol fashioned fist of cuffs.
Just so you know, CTE can only be diagnosed after death - you have to take a biopsy of the brain. Majority of these cognitive issues are diagnosed as concussions
For sure, but it’s no secret that having many concussions throughout a career will lead to CTE
Rempe isn't a problem he's an echo of the past that a lot of us wish was still around - CTE is from CONSTANT hits, football players get hit all day everyday during football season, UFC fighters spar all day. Even rempe fighting 'a lot' isn't anywhere near other sports head hits.
Let's the men Duke it out, it's the most exciting part of hockey.
When someone tries to argue gridiron football is the hardest hitting, tough guy sport, one of my go-to mic drops is to point out that this league sanctions bare knuckle fist fighting... [pause] ...in the name of player safety. I've never once heard a comeback.
Side note i wonder if removing hitting will uptick of younger generation of player who cant brace for impact. Which in turn could lead to more injuries.
Yes
grown men carrying sticks and hitting each other with said stick you need some way to police that on the ice.
remove fighting and you remove the fun in hockey
man i wanna see rempe vs xhekaj
also yeah rivalries create some of the best moments in hockey cough cough Habs-nordiques cough cough
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I’ve thought about this a lot, and what I think it comes down to is awareness and innovation. Before, players were not aware of cte, and did not know the risk. I think players need to be educated on the dangers, and if they choose to continue, that is their choice. However, there still needs to be equipment innovation and rules to try and minimize unnecessary trauma. Fighting and hitting is part of hockey, it’s the sport, and the risk that comes with it.
It’s the hits that causes concussions!! Not just the fights
when you talked about going to the fox game i was surprised thinking how is this guy also a nucks fan who lives in calgary
This certainly makes an argument for a video idea to explore the culture and history of fighting in the NHL. When was the first recorded fight? Why did it wind up becoming common place? Why did it flourish where anywhere outside of the rink it would be an assault charge? Interesting questions that would be intriguing to delve into.
Without fighting do you think that the game will suddenly become like a ballet with brilliant moves and fabulous goals? No, it will turn into a dirty back stabbing game that no one wants to watch. The leagues that don't allow fighting are usually like that.
Bring on the Brotato music!
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My problem with Rempe is not the fighting, its that he doesnt seem to know how to make a normal, safe hit. Charging, leaving his feet, elbows, head contact.
Also they're not allowed to take their helmets off when they fight anymore. The helmet has to get punched off.
400 penalty minutes would break the single season record set by Bob Probert (398)
I appreciate how you brought up ufc pay, its such a joke when starting out, guys would get like 6 g to fight on the bog stage
As long as cheapshot hacks are accepted, or just overlooked, there is a need for enforcers. At the same time I'm tired of hearing of my hockey heros dying or crippled.
If players don't want to fight, they don't have to. Fights in hockey are mutual, both parties agree to fight. So if the players want to fight knowing the risk, let them fight. UFC hasn't become a wrestling league just because of CTE, they know the risk when they sign up for it. And in hockey they can opt out of fighting in games if they so choose.
Rob Ray is doing just fine…….actually pretty funny as CC
Nah it made more popular in recent years
Nazem Kadri was a loose canon too... more so than Rempe. Almost ended his career as he really hurt a couple guys. Rempe is just huge, and not really tryin' to hurt people. Those match penalties were pretty soft, to be hones. I'm an AVs fan, so no real skin in this game, but I like seeing young guys keeping the game physical.
born in 99' a fan since a child in 2004, im so proud of what this league has become, its only a matter of time before the Stanley Cup is bigger than the superbowl.
This rempe kid reminds me of the pitcher from the Dodgers...you know that one dude that will sit there and tell the person at bat what the catcher wants him to throw. Rempe is tall, goofy looking, and is 1 ft 1/2 taller than the majority of enforcers...even towered over Ryan reaves. Now time to fight Wilson Rempe.
It’s not impact the head that causes the problem it’s the fact that your brain swash is inside your skull and when it bangs against the side of your skull apparently that’s not good for it so frankly fighting a lot safer than when they have a collision at 35 miles an hour and your body just stops immediately and your brain keeps going forward and guess what it’s going to be no way to ever take that out of the game unless you just don’t play hockey anymore so why don’t we just all recognize that in life there’s risks and dangerous and if you try to illuminate that then there would be no such thing as race car driving football players hockey players etc.
Lmao . They only got 5 minutes for fighting back in the 70 s or 80s . It’s hysterical guys would fight 20 to 30 times a year . It’s ridiculous he really hasn’t fought that much .and he can play
I feel like the NHL either needs to get rid of it completely or ramp it way up. This weird limbo thing we're in where the player safety is super inconsistent with what they call but also restricting fighting doesn't work. They either need to hand out more punishment or let the players police the game
Only 5 fights? Times have changed
Players like rempe need to exist. It's because of them being phased out that we have rookies taking pot shots off the goalies head to deflect it into the goal. There's no such thing as deterrence. Just today Coyle on the bruins did the same exact thing. Tried to bounce it in off samsonovs face. Too bad reaves is a washed up dirty bum. Doesn't fight just throws elbows.
I think that fighting for the sake of fighting is not the case anymore. Players are not employed strictly to fight people on a roster.
One thing I do support is punishing fighting in youth sports. There are millions of kids that won’t play in the NHL, so not having that developmental issues and trauma for hockey players would be great. Also forcing kids to use smarts and skill instead of size, toughness will lead to better players of hockey.
But hockey has an aura that no other sport has. When it comes to fighting I think it should be heavily penalized but controlled. The system we have in place is great.
I think a big problem with some of the arguments for pro fights in the NHL, forgets that it's not allowed and thus there are no rules in place for what's allowed and what's not. Take MMA, There are strict rules which has to be allowed and they're (to my knowlegde) enforced.
It can become a slippery slope if it's not enforced more strictly, either for or against fights. IMO.
Box lacrosse. Closest thing to hockey.
Rempe doesn't get $855,000 - that's for 82 games. If he's in the minors, he gets much less. When he's suspended, he loses the salary he would have had for those games. His earning according to Capfriendly are about $230,000. Still more per fight than professional fighters.
As long as we dont have another Derek Boogaard situation, I think it'll be okay.
$126 in fees is wild.
Swear to god. Can they force enforcers to wear ufc gloves under the hockey gloves to reduce the dmg.
Hockey fights are bare knuckled fighting. Which is even more dangerous than boxing or MMA.
Except you have shoulder pads and a helmet/visor on, so not really an accurate comparison
I dont think fighting in the nhl is going to cause cte nearly as much as compared to boxing or ufc where guys can hit harder since they have their feet planted on the ground instead of balancing on skates and go on for much longer landing 100s of blows over the course of rounds compared to a hockey fight where it lasts not even a minute and most of the punches land on the back of the guys helmet. Rarely is there ever an actual knockout either, if guys were going out left and right like nick kypreos I would be concerned, that doesn't seem to happen though.
Would absolutely make the game worse
The NHL does a bad job protecting players a lot of the time from dirty plays, slewfoots or checks. Fighting helps respond and/or police it.
Dont forget the lacrosse factor now to
the game of hockey is NOT entertaining with out fighting or hitting. this kids a breath a fresh air in a league thats fallen victim of Americanism destruction of defensive and physical game types. the game needed the red line the two line pass which both regulated the speed to prevent garbage no touch icing. as some one who grew up watching hockey in the 80s and 90s the league is pretty boring, i cant tell you the last time i gave the slightest shit about watching a game.
We Stan Rempe 🙌🏻
Lol Did not expect to see you here Marc
4:10 I'd argue that Panarin is the best undrafted player of all time since the draft began.
Uneducated people would tell you it's Gretzky
Gretzky and MSL are two undrafted players that are better. That being said, there’s a chance that Panarin can pass Martin St.Louis. There isn’t a bigger Ranger fan than me but I think it’s going to take a cup and a few more season putting up similar numbers to this year.
@@stevenbrodeur3023 Gretzky certainly never got drafted since he was offered a contract at 16 years old. He doesn't even count as undrafted in my book.
Resources to keep people safe, and healthy are good things.. but come on, you sign a multimillion-dollar contract, to play a game for tough guys. It's like saying you're a boxer who doesn't want to get punched
As a huge MMA fan I’d be a hypocrite to say that two willing partners shouldn’t be allowed to have a go at each other. CTE is definitely a concern but these guys know that well. And I’d rather take few punches from a guy on wobbly legs than a check to the head at 30kmh, that’s for sure.
I just think a lot of these guys take on fights they have no chance of winning for the sake of pride or team honor or whatever. That’s when it gets dangerous.
If I tried to fight a professional boxer on the street I’d be more concerned about hitting my head on the pavement when he inevitably sleeps me. I feel the same way about massive mismatches in hockey fights. If the sport is already dangerous why take unnecessary damage over ego?
"Up to $25: have a couple of beers on me" - you haven't been to the Bell Centre eh? :)
That’s why I said sodies hahaha
Ban fighting altogether in the playoffs.
He is not a goon. He's young wait until he fills out his body look out he can be a wrecking machine
He’s a loser and a dirty player.
If he helps a team win a cup is it still worth the inevitable brain damage it is to him I feel he needs to move away from instant fighter keep it dialed back enough to be considered a presence on the ice but don't have to drop the gloves all the time might be tough to do in this specific sport