If I remember correctly, Ironclaw Orcs was an important element of OG Sleight/Red Deck Wins deck. Idea is that while it is just a bear with a downside, most of the times this downside is not relevant because there's so many tools to remove enemy creature out of battle.
This is correct and as you say OG, it was even before the terms "Sligh" and RDW. The best thing about Orcs, other than dropping as a 2-drop? When you hit a poor guy with an orc 3 times, forcing the opponent to Swords/Bolt it. Then next turn the Ball Lightning comes out...OUCH.
It was important to OG Sligh because it was a 2 drop. The concept for Sligh was using all its mana each turn and curving out; previously, people just played "the best cards" and didn't worry about casting them on curve as much. Sligh's philosophy was that even if you played worse cards, putting out threat after threat after threat made those cards a lot better than they'd be otherwise.
@@TimmytheSorcererI'm also a fan of Electric Eel. Flying Men is too risky; it means your entire creature base gets blown out by City in a Bottle and that's no good. It doesn't offer a lot of upside for that either, just being able to hit for 1.
Always worth. But I'm obsessed with flippy cards, so I may not be the right person to ask. However, objectively speaking, you can hit multiple targets with it for less mana than something like Fireball or Pyrotechnics. [edit] Forgot to add that Falling Star also taps everything it hits -- so even if you don't kill your opponent's creatures, you can tap them with a well-placed Falling Star and then swing for damage.
@@WarhavenSC yes, but, it’s a 2R Sorcery that can only hit creatures, making it a potentially useless card in your hand, and then the gamble on the flip, which could cause a huge tempo loss. I would rather run more disintegrates and fireballs :)
As the player of the deck (Henk) I can say the card has been great for me. FS have killed multiple creates against mono green and I’ve used often to tap down creatures so I can get in another attack.
@@ibanezleftyclub Yes, but that's what sideboards are for. And you'll be happy to have a Falling Star in your hand over a Disintegrate when facing your average white weeny or green aggro.
So everyone knows the timeline, Paul Sligh was running mono red curve in 1996. But mono red curve actually came out in 1995. Somehow in history, he got interviewed for this deck and got the unwarranted credit for this deck. In 1996, you couldn’t play Chain Lightning in Type 2. But the card that made mono red a viable concept as a mana curve deck occurs because of one card…Ball Lightning. Before that, there were plenty of red decks that hoped to eventually kill you with Fireball/Disintegrate but they were both mid-range and mid-level because they had no defense and at the same time were slow. (You can’t play a slow red deck with people commonly running COP Red). Back then, common Fireballs and Disintegrates sold for over a dollar, Lightning Bolts were a couple of dollars while Chain Lightning was a double digit card despite all those cards being commons.
Maybe not the right place to ask but is it allowed to run Collectors Edition cards in these events? And would it help if all cards were CE in that case (and sleeved of course), so they could not be identified easily? I know that’s a deckbuilding restriction but it’s what I happen to have (and I could build a fully powered deck this way so that should help the deck). I’m Dutch by the way so I guess these events would be in reach for me.
I believe this event does allow them, but most Dutch tournaments do not, so it's a good thing to always check prior. You can find more info about UTC at uthdentrollcup.com
Woah we changed the end scroll song. I'll watch the matches while I'm getting ready for sleep, some times I fall asleep and the end scroll song would wake me. I feel like this new song is going be in some dreams.
Love that UG deck (I would prefer to see a more fair version without p9 and mind twist but whatever 🤷🏻♂️) That black bordered air elemental is truly a thing of beauty 😍 I want it 😅
We play with the, "Don't be a D*ck" rule. Most players know each other and we can just ask our opponent if we want him/her to change something on the board. No biggie
You can find all the matches of this tournament in the UTC V playlist, ruclips.net/p/PLsGeV_wxUkUbE_Xf7zh7Iw-tP5tPuvkin&si=aJ0IHF_VZ7N8NFVo
If I remember correctly, Ironclaw Orcs was an important element of OG Sleight/Red Deck Wins deck. Idea is that while it is just a bear with a downside, most of the times this downside is not relevant because there's so many tools to remove enemy creature out of battle.
I also like the versions that run Electric Eel. Flying men is a good other option, but only a 1/1.
That’s so correct Mix, if they do 4 damage they have been great
This is correct and as you say OG, it was even before the terms "Sligh" and RDW. The best thing about Orcs, other than dropping as a 2-drop? When you hit a poor guy with an orc 3 times, forcing the opponent to Swords/Bolt it. Then next turn the Ball Lightning comes out...OUCH.
It was important to OG Sligh because it was a 2 drop. The concept for Sligh was using all its mana each turn and curving out; previously, people just played "the best cards" and didn't worry about casting them on curve as much. Sligh's philosophy was that even if you played worse cards, putting out threat after threat after threat made those cards a lot better than they'd be otherwise.
@@TimmytheSorcererI'm also a fan of Electric Eel. Flying Men is too risky; it means your entire creature base gets blown out by City in a Bottle and that's no good. It doesn't offer a lot of upside for that either, just being able to hit for 1.
Time walking Ironclaw Orcs was big damage! Vs. Mishra's Factories blood moon and bolt clears the way.
Orc army 🔥🔥🔥
Is it even worth running falling star? Seems so expensive for a lightning bolt that can fail.
Always worth. But I'm obsessed with flippy cards, so I may not be the right person to ask. However, objectively speaking, you can hit multiple targets with it for less mana than something like Fireball or Pyrotechnics. [edit] Forgot to add that Falling Star also taps everything it hits -- so even if you don't kill your opponent's creatures, you can tap them with a well-placed Falling Star and then swing for damage.
@@WarhavenSC yes, but, it’s a 2R Sorcery that can only hit creatures, making it a potentially useless card in your hand, and then the gamble on the flip, which could cause a huge tempo loss. I would rather run more disintegrates and fireballs :)
Nope
As the player of the deck (Henk) I can say the card has been great for me. FS have killed multiple creates against mono green and I’ve used often to tap down creatures so I can get in another attack.
@@ibanezleftyclub Yes, but that's what sideboards are for. And you'll be happy to have a Falling Star in your hand over a Disintegrate when facing your average white weeny or green aggro.
So everyone knows the timeline, Paul Sligh was running mono red curve in 1996. But mono red curve actually came out in 1995. Somehow in history, he got interviewed for this deck and got the unwarranted credit for this deck. In 1996, you couldn’t play Chain Lightning in Type 2. But the card that made mono red a viable concept as a mana curve deck occurs because of one card…Ball Lightning. Before that, there were plenty of red decks that hoped to eventually kill you with Fireball/Disintegrate but they were both mid-range and mid-level because they had no defense and at the same time were slow. (You can’t play a slow red deck with people commonly running COP Red). Back then, common Fireballs and Disintegrates sold for over a dollar, Lightning Bolts were a couple of dollars while Chain Lightning was a double digit card despite all those cards being commons.
Maybe not the right place to ask but is it allowed to run Collectors Edition cards in these events? And would it help if all cards were CE in that case (and sleeved of course), so they could not be identified easily? I know that’s a deckbuilding restriction but it’s what I happen to have (and I could build a fully powered deck this way so that should help the deck). I’m Dutch by the way so I guess these events would be in reach for me.
I believe this event does allow them, but most Dutch tournaments do not, so it's a good thing to always check prior. You can find more info about UTC at uthdentrollcup.com
Woah we changed the end scroll song. I'll watch the matches while I'm getting ready for sleep, some times I fall asleep and the end scroll song would wake me. I feel like this new song is going be in some dreams.
Thanks for noticing :)) I do that sometimes when I make a tournament series. This song is only used for the UTC V vids.
Love that UG deck (I would prefer to see a more fair version without p9 and mind twist but whatever 🤷🏻♂️)
That black bordered air elemental is truly a thing of beauty 😍 I want it 😅
The deck’s super nice 🔥 You can brew a pretty good underpowered UG deck with just reprints imo.
Shouldn't there be some ruling for the player on the left to put his BOP with his creatures? It seems like he's trying to hide it.
We play with the, "Don't be a D*ck" rule. Most players know each other and we can just ask our opponent if we want him/her to change something on the board. No biggie
Always uncomfortable when people bring their glasses above the board.
When REB hits like that, oof! That was brutal!
Yeah oof hey
keeping a 1 land hand. REALLY?
Uhhhhhh unless you’re playing against Brian weissman 😂