There are upgrade springs available, some examples are AK Blaster Mods 18kg spring (this can reach 250fps) or a hardware store K25 spring which can hit 220fps, providing you have a good air seal for both of these.
No, the catch is good on the Ak spring and a cut to length K25 spring. The Ak spring is a K25 with squared off ends. The plunger with handle these springs as long as you disassemble it correctly, by removing the silicon pad off the top of the plunger head and drill a hole through the center of it so you can access the hidden screw. If you do it like this you should have no problems at all.
i've also noticed lower FPS from the bamboozles. the heads are nicer than workers, but the worker gen 3 foam is perfect for high pressure barrels like brass. maybe the bamboos were tested in and work the best in anodized aluminum with a little bit of tolerance slop.
No one ever mentioned the priming handle goes back, like a cycloneshock does or summat! That aside, the whole project is phenomenal, considering it's a stock spring and all!
I would personally avoid the AK 18kg spring for the Knockout because it does not fit the plunger system as they send you a Kronos spring, and if you do manage to shoehorn it in there, it will be ridiculous to prime and very hard to get it to catch. My suggestion would be to get a K25 spring and cut it half a coil shorter than the original spring, on a 8-9" barrel, this is achieving 200+ fps, but is a very solid prime. Also note that drilling the top of the plunger system to get to the screw that holds the plunger together so you can fit the spring in, will take away any of the last remaining plunger seal...
Jayson Smith I just received the kit and installed it. I give it a 6/10 in terms of fitment and quality. Not worth the price . Am going to re do it with my own parts. Thanks for the heads up on the spring ! Yes they sent me a Kronos spring ...
I just bought two of these today at Best buy and plan to leave one stock that my seven-year-old will have and also use as a reference but with mine I think I'm going to converted to shoot .177 BBs . I am also going to be taking a ton of stuff off of it and molding things using a plastic welder, CA glue, Kitty hair and stippling. I am going to be removing the trigger lock, the entire area that holds the two extra rival balls, removing the entire Picatinny rail on top but mounting an extra set of Ameriglow night sites that I have . I may even try and reduce the grip, but won't know until I open it all up this weekend. Then will paint it all Black Duracoat with very small red highlights. I am very OCD and detail oriented plus. Something custom,cheap,fun and satisfying for a 45 year old to do on cold winter days inside.
If I did that here I'd get arrested lol. Should be able to send them pretty damn fast, google says 0.35g and what I'm shooting here is 1.0g with the stock spring. Given similar conditions you could expect in excess of 500fps with those...
I like this IDEA... I have a tone of bb's still, I never concidered modding a Nerf blaster to do bb's... Though like Bradley, I am in the same situation, because Airsoft is illegal where I am... Should I make one for shits and giggles????
Sounds like you two need to move to a free state that allows their citizens to do these things. Here in Idaho I could legally turn any nerf gun into a semi auto .50 BMG with a 100 round magazine and it would be legal.
goddamn the knockout is just such a beast, i look forward to brassing mine here in the near future, hopefully i can find a cool faux suppressor for the front amazing video as always Bradley
@@BradleyPhillipsYT yeah i was looking into that, definitely a lot more options if i take it upon myself to make my own suppressor, i think i might scrounge up a hybrid between a fake silencer and a scar barrel, hopefully it works out :)
I am going to attempt to use the ball storage as a spot to make a mag fed version, I think I know how to get it so it will work, but have to wait on more stock to arrive. So I hope this works, wish me luck.
Ehhhh, maybe Rival does have some inherent limitations, but you have to admit that stock Elite sucks compared to stock Rival. It’s far more practical and satisfying to take most Rival blasters out of the box and have a CQB or mid-range office frenzy.
If we're going to include stock blasters though you have to include the Dart Zone Pro. But we all mod our blasters so comparing stock isn't really important in my opinion.
Bradley Phillips : Do you bring your DZP to your office? There’s regular stock and pro stock. My main point is that you could have said “Rival doesn’t meet our standards for this situation” or something similar. This would have helped maintain your professionalism.
I enjoy your content, why you don't have more subs is a shame. I just made one of these, but I don't have any proper half darts, I'm using cut down rebelle darts but they do not work good.what are some good substitutes, I have some workers on the way
Why do you hate Rival so much? I know it doesn't do good outside but for CQB I think it dominates. For me, rule of thumb is, if you are playing CQB use Rival if you are playing outside use half darts. What is your opinion?
@@BradleyPhillipsYT ok. I was just wondering what your opinion was. I agree that half darts are much more accurate than rival. And I also really like nerf Snipers that shoot half darts. Your channel is amazing BTW! You deserve way more subs! Keep up the good work!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I had a look at -kit, -mod and *strike to no avail. Am I just missunderstanding it and the adapters for the standard nerf tactical rail fit just as well? If you could point me to a website, that would be great.
Hi there Mr Normal, the brass length used in this build was 9" for the 17/32, 8.5" for 9/16 & the 19/32, with the 5/8 being just a fraction longer then what the rifling needed for a more secure fit when some very gentle compression rings to make it stead fast.
How long is brass however? I used the AKBlasterMod mods and I'm getting round 160fps, but I feel like a longer 17/32 brass would do the trick. Or would making the 9/16 longer give the same effect? I already had to use a longer piece for the faux scar I own
9" 17/32 works really well on the stock spring. I am getting some more in so I will do some with longer barrels to see how much more it has in it with a larger spring.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT love the build and work you put into your video and looked through most of the comments and didn’t see it here, but was wondering if you knew what size pipe, and what size the threaded fitting is for the silencer add on. If you are unsure I can always just do some measuring, but figured I’d ask first. Thanks again!
Please Read Comments, I have made ammendments... So I finally got the AK Blaster Mods Springs. The correct ones, and I can ssay that they are a K25 like spring with squared of ends. The diameter is the same, but the frequency of the coils is slightly different to the K25 lengths I have here.. They are the same length as the original spring, with the frequency of the coils being the same as well, but the diameter of the wire is .2mm thicker. It is seriously ridiculous to prime, and you really gotta yank the blaster hard in two directions to get it to catch, and I am no slouch, I like heavy springs, so be warned. LOL... My suggestion would be to get a K25 spring and cut it half a coil shorter than the original spring, on a 8-9" barrel, this is achieving 200+ fps with a Worker Scar, this is also a very solid prime, and will catch easier.. Also note that drilling the top of the plunger system to get to the screw that holds the plunger together so you can fit the spring in, will take away any of the last remaining plunger seal...
Only if your putting on a cut spring, as the priming bar is so thick... I dont know how much damage you might get twisting the spring on and off... Turns Out AK Blaster Mods have been sending out the wrong spring to their customers if ordered seperately from their kits. The are sending me the correct springs today, so hopefully I will be able to try this again with the correct Worker Spring. Will keep everyone posted!
Jayson Smith which spring did you order from them? They apparently sent me an 18kg spring meant for the knockout but I’m not sure if it’s the correct one
@@dextertan5178 Hi Dexter! I ordered specifically the Knockout 18kg Spring off AK Blaster, but they sent me Kronos Springs which are to small in their diameter to fit inside the plunger head like the original spring. If it dont fit, they have made a boo boo in what they sent, so chase them up and they will send the correct one if it is wrong. It would be helpful if it wasnt just Chinese and a kg rating on the packet too... LOL!
Jayson Smith hi! Oh, I see. Ok I ordered the 18kg Knockout and an 18kg Kronos from them. Not installed anything yet but on comparison one spring is longer and wider and the other. I assume the larger spring is the Knockout!
Are you tired of inaccurate guns like the deagle? Are you shit with rifles? Do you always know what time it is? Then fear not! The pocket AWP is for you!
There are upgrade springs available, some examples are AK Blaster Mods 18kg spring (this can reach 250fps) or a hardware store K25 spring which can hit 220fps, providing you have a good air seal for both of these.
What about k26?
@@southpawairsofter K26 unfortunately does not fit inside the plunger head, so its a no no on that spring.
You should cut off the Stock of another blaster so you Can sholder the knockout
Bradley Phillips do you need to otherwise upgrade the blaster with these powerful springs? Will the plunger head or catch risk breaking?
No, the catch is good on the Ak spring and a cut to length K25 spring. The Ak spring is a K25 with squared off ends. The plunger with handle these springs as long as you disassemble it correctly, by removing the silicon pad off the top of the plunger head and drill a hole through the center of it so you can access the hidden screw. If you do it like this you should have no problems at all.
This is my favorite kind of thing to watch whenever I'm supposed to be asleep
Omg it’s you that friend I forgot about
Crocogile I was about to make that joke -_-
I DO THE SAME THING!!!
Same
I was wondering when the top Nerf sniper was going to get his hands on a knockout. And a snazzy one no less!
Bradley, thanks for the awesome video, so happy you like this blaster, hoping to see it in a battle one day. Keep up the good work.
too much pain for battle
Hi Jayson, I would be interested in purchasing a commission exactly like this if you are available.
Bogusz Mąkowski nah, totally worth it for its power and compact size imo
Hello m8
severely underrated channel hope You see huge increase in sub count really soon.
this is a cool pistol, I love the "suppressor" you made
Barrel shroud looks great. Awesome video keep it up!
i've also noticed lower FPS from the bamboozles. the heads are nicer than workers, but the worker gen 3 foam is perfect for high pressure barrels like brass. maybe the bamboos were tested in and work the best in anodized aluminum with a little bit of tolerance slop.
Congrats on 5k subs! Keep it up bro 😁
Thanks!
I did one of these recently, really fun gun.
I have heard of the term "armchair general" but this is the 1st time i saw an "armchair nerfer" 😆
Chairbourne Ranger
No one ever mentioned the priming handle goes back, like a cycloneshock does or summat!
That aside, the whole project is phenomenal, considering it's a stock spring and all!
I ordered the AK blaster kit with the 18kg spring. We’ll see what happens!
What scope are you using ?
I would personally avoid the AK 18kg spring for the Knockout because it does not fit the plunger system as they send you a Kronos spring, and if you do manage to shoehorn it in there, it will be ridiculous to prime and very hard to get it to catch. My suggestion would be to get a K25 spring and cut it half a coil shorter than the original spring, on a 8-9" barrel, this is achieving 200+ fps, but is a very solid prime.
Also note that drilling the top of the plunger system to get to the screw that holds the plunger together so you can fit the spring in, will take away any of the last remaining plunger seal...
Jayson Smith I just received the kit and installed it. I give it a 6/10 in terms of fitment and quality. Not worth the price . Am going to re do it with my own parts. Thanks for the heads up on the spring ! Yes they sent me a Kronos spring ...
Just found you today man. great viddys, subbed straight away.
Thank you, hope you enjoy
"you could end up core sampling yourself" hahahahahaha
Another great video, thankyou for the work you do for the hobby
Australian man give high powered pistol. Cant wait to see how this goes
I knew I should have put a longer barrel on my knockout. Welp, time to buy another!
You could join some brass using the next size up as a coupler.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT nothing like a new project, though. Gives me a reason to paint one up, too
I just bought two of these today at Best buy and plan to leave one stock that my seven-year-old will have and also use as a reference but with mine I think I'm going to converted to shoot .177 BBs . I am also going to be taking a ton of stuff off of it and molding things using a plastic welder, CA glue, Kitty hair and stippling. I am going to be removing the trigger lock, the entire area that holds the two extra rival balls, removing the entire Picatinny rail on top but mounting an extra set of Ameriglow night sites that I have . I may even try and reduce the grip, but won't know until I open it all up this weekend.
Then will paint it all Black Duracoat with very small red highlights. I am very OCD and detail oriented plus.
Something custom,cheap,fun and satisfying for a 45 year old to do on cold winter days inside.
If I did that here I'd get arrested lol. Should be able to send them pretty damn fast, google says 0.35g and what I'm shooting here is 1.0g with the stock spring. Given similar conditions you could expect in excess of 500fps with those...
Damn Bradley you must live in California.
I have a chronograph for the real stuff so I suppose it will work fine for this project.
I like this IDEA... I have a tone of bb's still, I never concidered modding a Nerf blaster to do bb's... Though like Bradley, I am in the same situation, because Airsoft is illegal where I am... Should I make one for shits and giggles????
Sounds like you two need to move to a free state that allows their citizens to do these things.
Here in Idaho I could legally turn any nerf gun into a semi auto .50 BMG with a 100 round magazine and it would be legal.
@@montanaplease we both live in Australia, not a state of the US. Our whole country is like this.
Mans ready to assasinate nerf JFK
This made me search up nerf protect the president game mode... :)
"Normally it shoots rival rounds like this, but since those SUCK.." ahhhahahha
goddamn the knockout is just such a beast, i look forward to brassing mine here in the near future, hopefully i can find a cool faux suppressor for the front
amazing video as always Bradley
There's a bunch of 3D printed suppressors or you could make one yourself like I did
@@BradleyPhillipsYT yeah i was looking into that, definitely a lot more options if i take it upon myself to make my own suppressor, i think i might scrounge up a hybrid between a fake silencer and a scar barrel, hopefully it works out :)
For the o ring in the plunger, did u add some Teflon tape. Will that make it better ?
I did not but it might help
You could replace the ball storage with a low profile bipod
True, or a flashlight or something
I am going to attempt to use the ball storage as a spot to make a mag fed version, I think I know how to get it so it will work, but have to wait on more stock to arrive. So I hope this works, wish me luck.
@@jaysonsmith9971 , 5 months later , what's the verdict?
Nice!
I dig those pants man , what Brand or what kind are they ? Also loved the vid
Just called motorcycle jeans online shopping like eBay. Come with insertable knee pads.
use this at the next gel ball game :P....
Might need that spring upgrade first :P
Ehhhh, maybe Rival does have some inherent limitations, but you have to admit that stock Elite sucks compared to stock Rival. It’s far more practical and satisfying to take most Rival blasters out of the box and have a CQB or mid-range office frenzy.
If we're going to include stock blasters though you have to include the Dart Zone Pro. But we all mod our blasters so comparing stock isn't really important in my opinion.
Bradley Phillips : Do you bring your DZP to your office? There’s regular stock and pro stock.
My main point is that you could have said “Rival doesn’t meet our standards for this situation” or something similar. This would have helped maintain your professionalism.
totophi do you bring a rival blasters to the office?
Jaret Turner : Yep! Have you not experienced this pleasure?
totophi nope, in my opinion they shoot a little too hard and bounce too much to be used in an office with computers and stuff.
Very nice.
Can it load more than one dart at a time?
I enjoy your content, why you don't have more subs is a shame. I just made one of these, but I don't have any proper half darts, I'm using cut down rebelle darts but they do not work good.what are some good substitutes, I have some workers on the way
Why do you hate Rival so much? I know it doesn't do good outside but for CQB I think it dominates. For me, rule of thumb is, if you are playing CQB use Rival if you are playing outside use half darts. What is your opinion?
Because they are no where near as accurate as half length darts. Accuracy by volume doesn't appeal to me at all.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT ok. I was just wondering what your opinion was. I agree that half darts are much more accurate than rival. And I also really like nerf Snipers that shoot half darts. Your channel is amazing BTW! You deserve way more subs! Keep up the good work!
Adelaide always looks windy as hell in your videos lol
With the scope and suppressor, it looks like Han Solo’s DL-44 blaster pistol.
Yeah no, it really doesn’t
Which Rival rail to picatinny Adapter did you use?
Cool video!
One of the Worker ones. Though almost any 3D print seller will make one.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I had a look at -kit, -mod and *strike to no avail. Am I just missunderstanding it and the adapters for the standard nerf tactical rail fit just as well? If you could point me to a website, that would be great.
My guy put a 6x vcog on it 😂
Hi Bradley - Did you try a BT Scar on this?
wow thats loud, just 3d print and super glue a vertical grip onto the barrel shroud
Your ammo crate looks the right way up to me
This is with the stock spring?
what size pvc is the suppressor ?
How long is the 17/32 and how long is the 9/16?
Hi there Mr Normal, the brass length used in this build was 9" for the 17/32, 8.5" for 9/16 & the 19/32, with the 5/8 being just a fraction longer then what the rifling needed for a more secure fit when some very gentle compression rings to make it stead fast.
@@jaysonsmith9971 - Is the air restrictor removed for the brass mod ?
@@albey1816 yes the air restrictor gets removed.
Looks like Megatron
How long is brass however? I used the AKBlasterMod mods and I'm getting round 160fps, but I feel like a longer 17/32 brass would do the trick. Or would making the 9/16 longer give the same effect? I already had to use a longer piece for the faux scar I own
Could be worth making the 17/32" longer. Also someone got 250fps out of theirs with an upgraded spring.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT in that case, would 8 inches be a good spot to start? The one from AKBlasterMod is round 4-5 inches
The 250fps one uses 12", lower spring needs less though.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I'm stock with a o ring swap to a thicker one. It holds air, but I think 8 inches will work
9" 17/32 works really well on the stock spring. I am getting some more in so I will do some with longer barrels to see how much more it has in it with a larger spring.
How does this stack up against the kronofire?
The Kronos is capable of higher velocities
I'm- I'm- I'm- 😳😶 How is that stock?!?!?
If I put a k14 and a 22 kg in at the same time in my omega longshot, do you think it would break?
By break do you mean your arm or the blaster?
@@BradleyPhillipsYT both
Lizard Lover why would you wanna do that
I wanna see how strong it would be with both
Lizard Lover just get an air blaster at that point
Han Solo is that you?
With the sight it reminds me of the Han Solo Blaster
Not the first to tell me that one so I think you're right
* 8 year old kids be like * nO ThATS tHE foRtNIte SupPrEssEd PisToL
180fps with stock spring!?! wooow
I Need It!
How did you attach the PVC barrel cover?
Just friction fits over
@@BradleyPhillipsYT thx Dude!! 🙏
Love your vids!!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT love the build and work you put into your video and looked through most of the comments and didn’t see it here, but was wondering if you knew what size pipe, and what size the threaded fitting is for the silencer add on. If you are unsure I can always just do some measuring, but figured I’d ask first. Thanks again!
Does it shoot rival rounds?
Not anymore
This reminds me of a gsr1911
Please Read Comments, I have made ammendments...
So I finally got the AK Blaster Mods Springs. The correct ones, and I can ssay that they are a K25 like spring with squared of ends. The diameter is the same, but the frequency of the coils is slightly different to the K25 lengths I have here.. They are the same length as the original spring, with the frequency of the coils being the same as well, but the diameter of the wire is .2mm thicker. It is seriously ridiculous to prime, and you really gotta yank the blaster hard in two directions to get it to catch, and I am no slouch, I like heavy springs, so be warned. LOL... My suggestion would be to get a K25 spring and cut it half a coil shorter than the original spring, on a 8-9" barrel, this is achieving 200+ fps with a Worker Scar, this is also a very solid prime, and will catch easier..
Also note that drilling the top of the plunger system to get to the screw that holds the plunger together so you can fit the spring in, will take away any of the last remaining plunger seal...
So it's probably better to twist the spring off and the new one on
Only if your putting on a cut spring, as the priming bar is so thick... I dont know how much damage you might get twisting the spring on and off... Turns Out AK Blaster Mods have been sending out the wrong spring to their customers if ordered seperately from their kits.
The are sending me the correct springs today, so hopefully I will be able to try this again with the correct Worker Spring. Will keep everyone posted!
Jayson Smith which spring did you order from them? They apparently sent me an 18kg spring meant for the knockout but I’m not sure if it’s the correct one
@@dextertan5178 Hi Dexter!
I ordered specifically the Knockout 18kg Spring off AK Blaster, but they sent me Kronos Springs which are to small in their diameter to fit inside the plunger head like the original spring. If it dont fit, they have made a boo boo in what they sent, so chase them up and they will send the correct one if it is wrong. It would be helpful if it wasnt just Chinese and a kg rating on the packet too... LOL!
Jayson Smith hi! Oh, I see. Ok I ordered the 18kg Knockout and an 18kg Kronos from them. Not installed anything yet but on comparison one spring is longer and wider and the other. I assume the larger spring is the Knockout!
Nerf rival hir rounds dont suck
Compared to half darts They do
@@Cat-fp7jw no they dont, not everyone mods. But the nexus pro is cool!
His videos started with nerf than gel ball and again nerf
Are you tired of inaccurate guns like the deagle?
Are you shit with rifles?
Do you always know what time it is?
Then fear not!
The pocket AWP is for you!
Uuuhhhhh
First
Noice
Oh damm you actually are
Am I the only one who likes the rival balls way better than darts ??!?!?
Probably
@@BradleyPhillipsYT lol