I don't understand why that exists. I've seen this twice, and that scene just doesn't make any sense. Vic had 0 redeeming qualities. Why does he get a redemption monologue?
The unmitigated joy in Woolie's voice when the parents got the house keys is truly something. "Oh! The keys to that car that Vic crashed! Oh and it still smells like Vic's corpse, thank you son!"
I remember seeing this compilation years ago, and i'll say it again, Liam was absolutely on fire in this LP, it has some of his funniest lines i've ever heard him drop
the car scene is legitimately FANTASTIC, it's exactly how that sort of psychopath would act and it's so cool to see rage finally put that pos in his place. it's baffling that a scene that so clearly exposes how downright evil this character is exists in a story that tries to make the audience feel any sort of empathy or remorse for said character.
My favorite part of this LP, aside from Rage somehow advancing in the story despite playing an absolutely lukewarm b-ball, will forever be all three of them just refusing to understand how the NBA draft works
@@WTFisTingispingis Not really, unless you are a big basketball nerd. I think it is one of the more complicated draft systems in all sports. NFL at least more straight forward.
the ending always makes me wonder if Spike Lee was *actually* being blackmailed by his own real life Vic, presumably some guy called Dick Man Liar, into giving him a tragic self-insert character and begrudgingly rewriting his basketball story around them. it would unironically explain a lot
"How many B-Balls can you dunk in thr frozen time?" So this is my first exposure to Rage, though I know he canonically appeared earlier than this LP. There is something about this 7'3, 340lbs, bald-with-sideburns guy does *not* look like a fresh out of Highschool 18 year old. He *does*, however, look like he came out of his mother fully grown like this and *thats* why they called him Freak, uh, Freq. And holy shit I love the Team Coach, who is actually correct, but rambles like a crazy villain at all times.
Oh my god, the ending. What was even the point of the whole Vic thing? Why would you make a plot about having to deal with a bad friend and then just have an external force solve the friend for you? Your character didn't have to do *anything!* why was vics ghost reading off a notepad? Was there even gameplay in this story mode?
Honestly Liam was my favorite of the Best Friends. I always felt that some of the secret sauce was lost when Liam left. He was such an anti Pat in terms of his views on stuff that it was perfect.
Coming back to this after a while, and I honestly think, that in this docu-movie he called a game, that if Spike Lee had thrown in a few scenes of Vic actively getting f*cked over by life, that would actually justify his assholery. Because if he was having the shortest of short sticks, and I mean multiple failed businesses, a rap career that went no where, women treating him like dirt and walking all over him, him lashing out and being destructive like that makes sense. And playing the murder card, is his ace in maintaining what little control over his life that he has. All of that, would give his letter some WEIGHT, instead of being a joke.
Watching this some years removed and I STILL don't understand what Spike was trying to do with Vic. Is there an audience to whom he is not the most irredeemable and viciously evil piece of shit ever? This is the best instance of when a story and the audience have two entirely different ideas about who a character is
Go check out the comment sections on Chris Smoove's playthrough of 2K16, plenty of kool-aid drinkers think that story was great. Tbf I didn't really think much of this plot and didn't pay much attention to the cutscenes until I saw this montage pointing out that Vic fucking sucks.
I remember playing this when it came out. I hated the whole story. It felt like it was written by a black guy who hates white people for white people that wanted to be black. I just wanted a nice normal basketball career mode not a fantasy land where I was a 7 foot white kid raised by black hippies with a mooch friend and a whole posse of morons I wanted nothing to do with. The agent/manager guy was useless too and the girlfriend/sister I don't remember if they were different characters honestly added nothing. In conclusion Spike Lee is a hack. Truly the black American David Cage.
See, now I want to see an adaptation of Journey to the West where Michael Jordan is voicing the Demon Bull King. Just for the bit. Like how they had the voice actor of Goku voicing Sun Wukong in Monkie Kid.
It's continued to haunt me ever since- when Rage is ruminating in the little transition scene and Pat goes "Hey Chris", does anyone know the reference?
I think I read in a different comment section that it was a reference to The Wire, which has a character named Chris in it who's basically a sociopathic murderer and is the number 2 to a rising player in the drug game. I don't remember what the connection or joke was so I'll find the exact clip he says it and get back to you on it. EDIT: alright so firstly after the scene where Vic and Freq are driving Woolie says "oh what's this place we're turning onto- Hamsterdam??" which is from The Wire and for context it's basically a decriminalized drug zone that the police push all the dealers and junkies over to so the rest of the city has less crime and therefore the crime rate would go down. Then Pat says "Hey Chris" and they bust up laughing What the fuck does this have to do with anything? I have no idea! I guess the joke they were making is that they were gonna leave Vic in the shittiest part of town to get murdered (even though Chris was introduced like a season after Hamsterdam but whatever shut up) I get the vibe that Woolie and Pat just happened to be watching The Wire that day or something and it was fresh on their minds
@@jacobhernandez323 Wow dude, thank you. This is the most courteous comment reply ive ever received. But yeah like, now I'm double baffled, because I've seen The Wire, and remember Hamsterdam. I guess the sanctity will always be maintained to some degree of not getting every joke. Which oddly improved my viewing experience of their content when I was a kid, because it felt like hanging out with versions of my big brothers who wouldn't bomb on me every time I didn't get a joke.
I know how to fix this game: You switch Vic with Anakin Skywalker Anakin: I know you're mad that I killed those Younglings but Obi-wan, I had to. You, the Jedi, took these children from their homes and family to turn them into unemotional weapons that you, your cult, use to fight for a non-existing peace. I love kids, that's why I had to kill them because they would grow up into becoming into vengeful weapons of destruction. Do you understand? Obi-Wan: ... Y-You also killed Padme. Anakin: ... I will kill you. I SWEAR IT! SIGH... I hate how these people were so close and then they broke up and now we have nothing and no one. IT SUCKS.
Rewatching this i have to ask, did they ever actually play basketball? Im realizing there is only gameplay at the start did they even show more game during the lp?
I can't believe this -- I've been watching Spike Lee films for a while, but I had never seen He Got Game before. APPARENTLY... this game is something of a spiritual sequel? Dom Pagnotti is straight up a character in the film. And even in the film, the main character Jesus calls him out for possibly being in the mafia! EVEN SPIKE WAS AWARE AT THE TIME!
The guy who made these compilations got sick of youtube's bullshit, and decided to stop making them. He took them down and made this channel to put them on instead. The original lp hasn't gone anywhere.
@@enamelpajamel8374 I was worried because Wakka’s Final Solution was was taken down by some hacker not to long ago before some one reuploaded it. Then I saw this and other SBFP comps being taken down and got worried.
It's funny to me that Vic is a problem not because he's leeching off FreqRage, because his entire entourage is doing that, but Vic is doing so stupidly
Only indy studios have the balls to make weird cool games like that. A character action game where all your attacks and mechanics centers around basketball would be super novel and probably fun to play, which is antithetical to the slopfest AAA studios make.
@@BigFingerRo You have me imagining actual game mechanics. _NBA Street_ but you encourage a fast pace and head off shot clock stalling with a character action game-style combo and scoring system. What you want to do is build up momentum with these trick combos either on the offense (drives, dunks, passes) or defense (crossovers, steals, fakes), which gives you a power gauge resource which makes you more likely to score by getting through the opposing team. Even introduce sort of a fighting game mechanic because this is a sports game and has to be good as a multiplayer experience, where different teams overall build more with offense or defense moves, and you have your individual players who skew it one way or the other and have different tricks and moves you have to learn to string together. You have to keep all that stuff in mind - frames, hitboxes, concepts like rushdown, zoning, footsies - but it's all in the context of playing basketball.
@@RRVCrinale THIS is the kind of thought that game devs need to be putting back into sports games. Somewhere along the way a bunch of suits got involved and decided that what people REALLY wanted was "realism" in their sports games which like...okay that's A niche but they decided it was the ONLY one besides. Like on defense I can totally see a system where you can taunt or get in the head of your offensive opponents to trip them up and make it easier to steal back the ball. And if you're on offense you have to choose between continuing your trick combo for gauge and points or taunt back to keep the defense out of your head so they can't steal the ball back as easily.
@@MrFox-ox2ze It's a thing I learned when I learned about gameplay loops. I get why realism is so attractive, since you can think the real world makes your "loop" for you, but there's a right and wrong way to do that. Like, your taunt fits right into this and answers how to make defensive play feel active, by having it mirror the Combo Breaker mechanic in Killer Instinct. Stops flow, shifts momentum immediately and forces good players to get on with their plan, especially in a game where a guy doesn't have to eat your HP bar to get on the board. Hey, we found a meta Dillon Brooks fits onto!
Don't know why they're surprised there's hack shit in this it's Spike Lee. For every masterpiece there's five movies that make you want to see him blacklisted from Hollywood.
at this point I treat this as my feel-good film because it never fails to make me laugh no matter how many times I see Vic read from that notepad
I don't understand why that exists.
I've seen this twice, and that scene just doesn't make any sense. Vic had 0 redeeming qualities. Why does he get a redemption monologue?
@@wrestlerwannabe Because nah, feel bad though
and before that, AYYYY FETTUCINI REVOLUTION
@@wrestlerwannabeand why did he need a notepad to read off his apology as a ghost? Did his ghost lawyer prepare a statement for him?
i come back for yvette's face and liams reactions to it, still makes me crack up years later and their reaction to the car scene is awesome too
It's kind of crazy that the most despicable, most irredeemable, most morally bankrupt villain in video game history is in a 2K Basketball game.
I didn’t know Eric Sparrow played basketball
Vic should have been played by Drake.
@@z-mac664"Say Vic, I hear you like em young."
The unmitigated joy in Woolie's voice when the parents got the house keys is truly something.
"Oh! The keys to that car that Vic crashed! Oh and it still smells like Vic's corpse, thank you son!"
I remember seeing this compilation years ago, and i'll say it again, Liam was absolutely on fire in this LP, it has some of his funniest lines i've ever heard him drop
32:38 "Fucking Yvette is such a bitch" With such vitriol and hate behind it
Liam saying "Johnny Pepperoni" lives in my head rent free
Fettuccini revolution
Cancer up!! CAPEESH!!!
Booty-like groceries
Rage of Africa’s voice acting during the car scene was kinda great when he was actually mad
the car scene is legitimately FANTASTIC, it's exactly how that sort of psychopath would act and it's so cool to see rage finally put that pos in his place. it's baffling that a scene that so clearly exposes how downright evil this character is exists in a story that tries to make the audience feel any sort of empathy or remorse for said character.
My favorite part of this LP, aside from Rage somehow advancing in the story despite playing an absolutely lukewarm b-ball, will forever be all three of them just refusing to understand how the NBA draft works
Does _anybody_ know how the draft works?
@@WTFisTingispingis Not really, unless you are a big basketball nerd. I think it is one of the more complicated draft systems in all sports. NFL at least more straight forward.
@@WTFisTingispingisyeah, it’s called nepotism.
the ending always makes me wonder if Spike Lee was *actually* being blackmailed by his own real life Vic, presumably some guy called Dick Man Liar, into giving him a tragic self-insert character and begrudgingly rewriting his basketball story around them. it would unironically explain a lot
I think Spike Lee is just a hack
“Ohhhhhhhh, Kicks means Shoes!”
-Pat Boivin, 2016
I love that any conversation they had stopped dead in it’s tracks the moment the White Ghost Vic showed up 1:11:23
I still want to know who that Noise of someone freaking out in the back flailing was 😂
@@SIMIFUI'm pretty sure it's woolie and he is either saying "YEEEEESSSSS" OR "HIIIIIIISSSSS" I think it's hiss as in he is booing and hissing vic.
This game’s story could literally only be redeemed by dueling the corrupt of soul of Vic in the ruins of their childhood court
wait seriously why don't you get to 1v1 Vic, that shit would be awesome
"How many B-Balls can you dunk in thr frozen time?"
So this is my first exposure to Rage, though I know he canonically appeared earlier than this LP. There is something about this 7'3, 340lbs, bald-with-sideburns guy does *not* look like a fresh out of Highschool 18 year old. He *does*, however, look like he came out of his mother fully grown like this and *thats* why they called him Freak, uh, Freq.
And holy shit I love the Team Coach, who is actually correct, but rambles like a crazy villain at all times.
"Good pussy is the true genjutsu"- Woolie "Of Africa" Madden
Oh my god, the ending. What was even the point of the whole Vic thing? Why would you make a plot about having to deal with a bad friend and then just have an external force solve the friend for you? Your character didn't have to do *anything!* why was vics ghost reading off a notepad? Was there even gameplay in this story mode?
The yt comments over Vics monologue is priceless lmfaooo
Liam was on fire this LP.
Honestly Liam was my favorite of the Best Friends. I always felt that some of the secret sauce was lost when Liam left. He was such an anti Pat in terms of his views on stuff that it was perfect.
The intro cinematic was way better than anything in the actual game
That intro deserved to be in another game, like a fun arcade basketball game a la NBA Jam.
29:17 will be playing in my head on my deathbed, so fucking iconic.
It's so fucking funny.
“He still owns slaves”
-Liam, 2016
excuse me I believe he prefers the term "Emerald Mine Workers" (employee implies wages)
37:16 personal timestamp for when they talk about how obscene Curry is
6:44 to 6:47
Woolies tone and words fit with Vic's movements
Coming back to this after a while, and I honestly think, that in this docu-movie he called a game, that if Spike Lee had thrown in a few scenes of Vic actively getting f*cked over by life, that would actually justify his assholery.
Because if he was having the shortest of short sticks, and I mean multiple failed businesses, a rap career that went no where, women treating him like dirt and walking all over him, him lashing out and being destructive like that makes sense.
And playing the murder card, is his ace in maintaining what little control over his life that he has.
All of that, would give his letter some WEIGHT, instead of being a joke.
Watching this some years removed and I STILL don't understand what Spike was trying to do with Vic. Is there an audience to whom he is not the most irredeemable and viciously evil piece of shit ever? This is the best instance of when a story and the audience have two entirely different ideas about who a character is
Go check out the comment sections on Chris Smoove's playthrough of 2K16, plenty of kool-aid drinkers think that story was great. Tbf I didn't really think much of this plot and didn't pay much attention to the cutscenes until I saw this montage pointing out that Vic fucking sucks.
I remember playing this when it came out. I hated the whole story. It felt like it was written by a black guy who hates white people for white people that wanted to be black. I just wanted a nice normal basketball career mode not a fantasy land where I was a 7 foot white kid raised by black hippies with a mooch friend and a whole posse of morons I wanted nothing to do with. The agent/manager guy was useless too and the girlfriend/sister I don't remember if they were different characters honestly added nothing. In conclusion Spike Lee is a hack. Truly the black American David Cage.
If there's any good thing about this game its:
-This playthrough
-Demon Bull King Michael Jordan
See, now I want to see an adaptation of Journey to the West where Michael Jordan is voicing the Demon Bull King. Just for the bit. Like how they had the voice actor of Goku voicing Sun Wukong in Monkie Kid.
1:23:56 Me when i go back and watch sbfp compilations
Is it just me, or did this comp get better after the transfer?
It was updated before the transfer, this is the updated version.
Top tier LP
it cracks me up so much how Yvettes actress is actually super gorgeous
how and why did they fuck that pretty lady up
They had to TRY and fuck up that bad I refuse to believe any good faith human being falls dick first into absolutely insulting someone like that
I just wanna say, thank GOD Spike Lee made his comeback cause oh boy was this a career low.
He's still a hack
13:16 "Cancer up, capeesh?" just so I can find it easily in the future.
It's continued to haunt me ever since- when Rage is ruminating in the little transition scene and Pat goes "Hey Chris", does anyone know the reference?
I think I read in a different comment section that it was a reference to The Wire, which has a character named Chris in it who's basically a sociopathic murderer and is the number 2 to a rising player in the drug game. I don't remember what the connection or joke was so I'll find the exact clip he says it and get back to you on it.
EDIT: alright so firstly after the scene where Vic and Freq are driving Woolie says "oh what's this place we're turning onto- Hamsterdam??" which is from The Wire and for context it's basically a decriminalized drug zone that the police push all the dealers and junkies over to so the rest of the city has less crime and therefore the crime rate would go down. Then Pat says "Hey Chris" and they bust up laughing
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? I have no idea! I guess the joke they were making is that they were gonna leave Vic in the shittiest part of town to get murdered (even though Chris was introduced like a season after Hamsterdam but whatever shut up) I get the vibe that Woolie and Pat just happened to be watching The Wire that day or something and it was fresh on their minds
@@jacobhernandez323 Wow dude, thank you. This is the most courteous comment reply ive ever received. But yeah like, now I'm double baffled, because I've seen The Wire, and remember Hamsterdam. I guess the sanctity will always be maintained to some degree of not getting every joke. Which oddly improved my viewing experience of their content when I was a kid, because it felt like hanging out with versions of my big brothers who wouldn't bomb on me every time I didn't get a joke.
I thought it was a Chris Hansen dateline NBC reference
The cut to black afterwords seems like a reference to the ending of Sopranos
Reference to the sopranos, where a character called Chris is murdered in the car crash Pat describes.
I know how to fix this game: You switch Vic with Anakin Skywalker
Anakin: I know you're mad that I killed those Younglings but Obi-wan, I had to. You, the Jedi, took these children from their homes and family to turn them into unemotional weapons that you, your cult, use to fight for a non-existing peace. I love kids, that's why I had to kill them because they would grow up into becoming into vengeful weapons of destruction. Do you understand?
Obi-Wan: ... Y-You also killed Padme.
Anakin: ... I will kill you. I SWEAR IT!
SIGH... I hate how these people were so close and then they broke up and now we have nothing and no one. IT SUCKS.
Rewatching this i have to ask, did they ever actually play basketball? Im realizing there is only gameplay at the start did they even show more game during the lp?
They played the games they had to but cut them out of the video, kinda like their mk9 let's watch
all hail the God King of Basketball!
baskets for the basket throne
There’s so little basketball in this
Who put a basketball game in my soap opera!?
Wish there was a track list of the song used here. Shazam can only do some much over the commentary
I noticed this ghost gimmick before-on an episode of Fresh Prince, i wanna say.
I'm amazed that's not been talked about more honestly. Given what a cultural touchstone that show has been
I can't believe this -- I've been watching Spike Lee films for a while, but I had never seen He Got Game before. APPARENTLY... this game is something of a spiritual sequel? Dom Pagnotti is straight up a character in the film. And even in the film, the main character Jesus calls him out for possibly being in the mafia! EVEN SPIKE WAS AWARE AT THE TIME!
Oh my god did the original get taken down too?
The guy who made these compilations got sick of youtube's bullshit, and decided to stop making them. He took them down and made this channel to put them on instead. The original lp hasn't gone anywhere.
@@enamelpajamel8374 I was worried because Wakka’s Final Solution was was taken down by some hacker not to long ago before some one reuploaded it. Then I saw this and other SBFP comps being taken down and got worried.
@@TheG119YT hacker? That's a weird word for an al bhed
@@MonsieurBig but how would they hack if they're in bed all day
55:18 "Hey Chris"?
@The Confusion of Africa, where you at boio? You're missing out, son!
29:07 Jon Gruden has entered the chat
It's funny to me that Vic is a problem not because he's leeching off FreqRage, because his entire entourage is doing that, but Vic is doing so stupidly
Thank you
Anyone know the song at 3:04
I wish we'd gotten the game advertised by the intro and not whatever the hell the actual story mode was
Only indy studios have the balls to make weird cool games like that. A character action game where all your attacks and mechanics centers around basketball would be super novel and probably fun to play, which is antithetical to the slopfest AAA studios make.
@@BigFingerRothe studios forgot that games are meant to be fun AND are allowed to be quirky and wild because... they're GAMES
@@BigFingerRo You have me imagining actual game mechanics. _NBA Street_ but you encourage a fast pace and head off shot clock stalling with a character action game-style combo and scoring system. What you want to do is build up momentum with these trick combos either on the offense (drives, dunks, passes) or defense (crossovers, steals, fakes), which gives you a power gauge resource which makes you more likely to score by getting through the opposing team.
Even introduce sort of a fighting game mechanic because this is a sports game and has to be good as a multiplayer experience, where different teams overall build more with offense or defense moves, and you have your individual players who skew it one way or the other and have different tricks and moves you have to learn to string together. You have to keep all that stuff in mind - frames, hitboxes, concepts like rushdown, zoning, footsies - but it's all in the context of playing basketball.
@@RRVCrinale THIS is the kind of thought that game devs need to be putting back into sports games. Somewhere along the way a bunch of suits got involved and decided that what people REALLY wanted was "realism" in their sports games which like...okay that's A niche but they decided it was the ONLY one besides.
Like on defense I can totally see a system where you can taunt or get in the head of your offensive opponents to trip them up and make it easier to steal back the ball. And if you're on offense you have to choose between continuing your trick combo for gauge and points or taunt back to keep the defense out of your head so they can't steal the ball back as easily.
@@MrFox-ox2ze It's a thing I learned when I learned about gameplay loops. I get why realism is so attractive, since you can think the real world makes your "loop" for you, but there's a right and wrong way to do that.
Like, your taunt fits right into this and answers how to make defensive play feel active, by having it mirror the Combo Breaker mechanic in Killer Instinct. Stops flow, shifts momentum immediately and forces good players to get on with their plan, especially in a game where a guy doesn't have to eat your HP bar to get on the board.
Hey, we found a meta Dillon Brooks fits onto!
Does spike lee know how people talk? People don't talk like this
Man the auto caption on this video is great
Don't know why they're surprised there's hack shit in this it's Spike Lee. For every masterpiece there's five movies that make you want to see him blacklisted from Hollywood.
Are you implying he's had a masterpiece?
@@richieowens98Malcolm X certainly is, others I'd say are more subjectively good but I really like a bunch of them
only movie of his i have seen is oldboy so i do sometimes wonder if he actually has done good movies
Second
First
Vic did nothing wrong.
Good bait.
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