Milwaukee Might Be Lying About Their Batteries! Maybe Dewalt and Hercules are?

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  • @dominicdymond
    @dominicdymond Год назад +11

    Actual 18 is the nominal voltage, 20v is the MAX voltage. It is marketing, milwaukee has a trademark on 18v so the others call them 20v to get around it. And it also makes the others look higher voltage. Marketing plus loopholes

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад +1

      Well said

    • @cayenmaling3056
      @cayenmaling3056 Год назад +1

      Yeah, if you look at the Dewalt batteries they say 20V max. at least on my batteries

    • @dominicdymond
      @dominicdymond Год назад

      @cayenmaling3056 in USA they say 20v max. In Europe they are more strict. They state 18v, also their usa 60v flexvolt is like 56v in Europe ...
      I'm surprised they don't call the 12v like 13v In Usa lol

  • @BRMCaptChaos
    @BRMCaptChaos Год назад +11

    Kudos to Milwaukee. Better to under promise and over deliver.

    • @unclefester4626
      @unclefester4626 Год назад +2

      More like under perform and over hyped...

    • @unclefester4626
      @unclefester4626 Год назад +1

      @mrbunnylamakins slightly less than 1/2 of my m18 batteries are defective. Non of them have been used more than a dozen cycles. 3 of my 4 m18 12ah batteries are unchargeable because of red/green flash the charger. Its defective cell(s). The remaining 12ah works but something is not right with it also. I ran the string trimmer yesterday. The 12ah worked but when i changed out to an 8ah the tool really came to life.
      And i won't even get into the 3 1/2 months repair time on a m12 multi tool....
      Milwaukee is not the brand they were 10 to 12 years ago. They're cutting corners and I've had enough. No new purchases and i am debating the idea of a fire sale or just getting rid of most of it. The rear handle circ saw is supposed to have 12ah batteries. All of mine are either defective or wonky. You can make whatever argument you like but my experience is they are not a better brand. Period.

    • @thedailyruns6046
      @thedailyruns6046 6 месяцев назад

      Bro the video literally proved its the same. Do you not know whats inside these packs. Pro Tip its samsung 18650 batts.

    • @thedailyruns6046
      @thedailyruns6046 6 месяцев назад

      ​@mrbunnylamakins518not in cordless ratchets lol.

  • @user-sl6bk7uv8m
    @user-sl6bk7uv8m 2 месяца назад +2

    I guess people don't know how 18650 have a different voltage when charged and discharged...

  • @Nuclear-Kenny
    @Nuclear-Kenny Год назад +9

    It's not even load the 20 volt is beginning readings then it instantly drops to 18 volt. Which is why Milwaukee wasnt gonna lie it's really 18 volt after first minute of use

  • @hammyzgod
    @hammyzgod Год назад +2

    Dewalt is marketed 18v/54v everywhere else in the world only in the US is it advertised as 20v/60v

  • @IMPACT-NATION
    @IMPACT-NATION Год назад +3

    I’m actually interested in that piece of wood the batteries are sitting on. Nice work on that brother. Turned out nice buddy👌👌

  • @StevenAlisonFiedorczyk
    @StevenAlisonFiedorczyk Месяц назад

    Any 18660 tool run in a series of 5 has a nominal voltage of 18 and possibly a rated voltage of 20. It's always been marketing Dewalt does it too

  • @athannaelanderson3806
    @athannaelanderson3806 Год назад +3

    Flex, actually changed the game without dumb workarounds…

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад +1

      I have loved every single tool I've gotten from them

    • @athannaelanderson3806
      @athannaelanderson3806 Год назад +3

      @@ToolswithSoAlz Me too, I’ve had to use them in many crappy situations… from power outages to my house almost flooding… Flex has been there and provided the power and tools for me to solve these problems.. even in my daily life, making clay, making bricks and even in my farm… my dirt sifting screens are powered by my 1” Flex Sds. Secondly their chargers works great for solar charging, anytime I’m in the bush I use my Flex equipment.

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 Год назад +1

      Flex tools are the best. Flex and Kobalt, 6S batteries will always be better, just a bit more weight to deal with but in a tool I don’t think it would make that much of a difference. Wish they sold 24V Flex tools here in the UK.

  • @josephjames6603
    @josephjames6603 Год назад +1

    It's a marketing plot. There are 5 3.6v cells inside the casing (18v) rated at 4v max rating (20v). It's the same battery.

  • @J_ismyname48
    @J_ismyname48 Год назад +1

    He is 100% right. I've done this same test before myself out of curiosity.

  • @e1made
    @e1made Год назад +2

    Your polarity is mixed. Thats why you getting - and then the reading 😊

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      No, because these are DC batteries, the polarity doesn't matter.

    • @e1made
      @e1made Год назад

      @@ToolswithSoAlz weird. Why does it display as negative? 🤔

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      Because it's easier to watch than do, but if you actually know how these batteries work, you know it doesn't matter.

    • @e1made
      @e1made Год назад +1

      @@ToolswithSoAlz oh no. Its not about that. Just wanted to give you a tip for future vids. 👍👍💪

  • @brethilnen
    @brethilnen Год назад +1

    That was one of the first thing I learned about power tool batteries

  • @JWhite-of4fk
    @JWhite-of4fk Год назад

    The biggest difference is the battery case,that rubber bottom will save it from a fall

  • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
    @imperialsecuritybureau6037 Год назад +1

    Are they both fully charged? They’re both 5S batteries, so nominal voltage 18.5V, charged voltage 21V. You’ll see variations if they’re not charged to the same level

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      Yes they are fully charged and you're really busy looking for excuses to explain why you fell for marketing

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 Год назад

      @@ToolswithSoAlz lol, I put zero stock in the marketing - it’s just not possible for a lithium ion tool pack to be 19V fully charged unless it’s like 90% degraded. That would be 3.8V per cell, which would be ok (a little over voltage) if it’s LiFePO4 but there aren’t any power tools using that yet, and it would be 40% heavier so you’d be able to tell.
      I’m just saying, there is something wrong with this picture… they’re both packs with 5 cell groups in series, they have the same voltage from the factory - the marketing is just noise. If you’re able to increase the displayed decimal points on the multimeter that might bring the 19V closer to 20V?
      Am I correct in thinking these blocks have had quite a lot of use?

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 Год назад +1

      @@ToolswithSoAlz but yeah I wasn’t clear in my original comment, you are right on the money that it’s just marketing and there’s no functional difference in the batteries but there’s something up with the voltages is all I’m saying. Also you may have the positive and negative switched with the multimeter leads, the voltages were reading -19 and -20, I guess that could be causing the battery to give an inaccurate reading?

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      Thank you for your instant, incorrect, expertise

    • @imperialsecuritybureau6037
      @imperialsecuritybureau6037 Год назад

      @@ToolswithSoAlz how am I incorrect? Why are you arguing with a subscriber who gave some input? I wasn’t being argumentative in my original comment just expanding.
      I have designed several battery packs so not sure where I’m going wrong.

  • @abeodez751
    @abeodez751 Год назад +1

    I believe Milwaukee owns the 18v name and patent, i believe makita and probably all the rest have to pay 😵 wich in turn we have to pay more for brands and names 😒 but yeah maybe call em 19v or something 😅

  • @tatecraft1361
    @tatecraft1361 Год назад

    Nope. It’s all simply because Milwaukee OWNS the 18v name/licensing.

  • @toshn4151
    @toshn4151 Год назад

    The difference is that the hercules isn't fully charged?

  • @mulimuli9844
    @mulimuli9844 Год назад +2

    👍sad but true

  • @technicalitems731
    @technicalitems731 22 дня назад

    So I can buy a Hercules battery, steal the cells out of it to rebuild my Milwaukee and save money? I have the little spot welder for nickel battery plates. - but...will the Hercules power a Milwaukee and a Milwaukee power a Hercules with some jumper wires? Or adapter? Which? Or, does Milwaukee buy the fresher Samsung 1850 cells and Hercules gets the expired ones? Why do the Hercules seems to not charge as fast or last as long?

  • @sistercalhoun4444
    @sistercalhoun4444 Год назад

    Milwaukee fuel battery holds a longer charge.... And charge faster.

  • @billb744
    @billb744 Год назад +1

    To be clear, there liars!😮

  • @elbling9322
    @elbling9322 Год назад

    Did this guys just find out about this? Hasn’t this been news like 10 plus years ago

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      Oh look it's an internet expert that thinks he knows everything. Thanks clown

  • @marksatterfield
    @marksatterfield Год назад

    Lol 18650 aren't 20v batteries. The difference is called electronics

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      No Skippy but thank you for your instant, incorrect, expertise

    • @marksatterfield
      @marksatterfield Год назад

      @@ToolswithSoAlz haha so now we know who you voted for too. You keep believing 18650 are 20v for the rest of us. 😉

    • @ToolswithSoAlz
      @ToolswithSoAlz  Год назад

      Ma'am, I know you want to believe you're right. All idiots believe they're right. But you don't even have the basics down. You're a moron and the only one who doesn't know it is that paint chip eating, short bus riding, inbred daughter on an unnamed goat you have the misfortune of seeing in the mirror every day.

  • @toolsandtactics
    @toolsandtactics Год назад +1

    Liars!!😂

  • @ericnichols9275
    @ericnichols9275 Год назад

    PRICE

  • @cismoautorepair7061
    @cismoautorepair7061 Год назад

    Milwaukee 6 amps Hercules 5amps maybe that's the reason