Top Scholar Reveals HUGE Problem that Muslim Apologists Don't Want to Admit

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  • @danielanthony8373
    @danielanthony8373 Месяц назад +234

    Academics will never criticize Islam
    First they will be kicked out
    Second their life will be in danger because you know the Religion of Peace

    • @paulhallett1452
      @paulhallett1452 Месяц назад +16

      This is the thing

    • @Tdizzle7775
      @Tdizzle7775 Месяц назад +8

      Bart erhman and Richard Dawkins have openly criticized it

    • @pagedprawn3760
      @pagedprawn3760 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@Tdizzle7775they are brave

    • @ManuelPalaiologos-sf3ef
      @ManuelPalaiologos-sf3ef Месяц назад +24

      @@Tdizzle7775 They're not scholars of islam or of the quran: Dawkins is an atheist evolutionary biologist activist and Ehrman is a Bible critical scholar. No academic that dares study the quran or islam can criticize it, but in the tamest of ways, for fear for their life. Some German scholars, about a century to 50 years ago, started to critically study the quran and islam in the way that Christianity had been studied for the last 300 years, the results have been largely shoved under the rug and are only being rediscovered slowly...

    • @giftedtheos
      @giftedtheos Месяц назад +2

      Some academics do like Efraim Karsh in his book "Islamic Imperialism" published with Yale University

  • @danielanthony8373
    @danielanthony8373 Месяц назад +80

    The holes is the Standard Islamic Narrative have been perfectly preserved

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад +1

      You sound desperate to find a problem with another religion since Christianity is baseless and illogical.

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@danielanthony8373 My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him

    • @osmanniazi7888
      @osmanniazi7888 Месяц назад

      Seeking Refuge in the Lord: A Biblical Promise of Protection
      The concept of seeking refuge in God is a powerful theme that echoes through both the Old Testament and the Quran.
      The Old Testament contains explicit assurances from God about His protection for those who take refuge in Him.
      In Proverbs 30:5, it is written, "Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him." This verse explicitly states that God acts as a shield for those who seek His protection.
      Similarly, in 2 Samuel 22:31, the text affirms, "As for God, His way is perfect: The Lord’s word is flawless; He shields all who take refuge in Him."
      Psalm 18:30 echoes this sentiment: "As for God, His way is perfect: The Lord’s word is flawless; He shields all who take refuge in Him." These verses collectively reinforce the idea that God’s protection is assured for those who seek it earnestly.
      This is a promise of protection extended to those who sincerely seek the shelter of the Lord.
      For Muslims, the Quran and prophetic sayings explicitly order muslims to seek refuge in Allah, the same God worshiped by Abraham, Moses, and Noah.
      Muslims regularly seek refuge in God, particularly through their five daily prayers and various supplications.
      It is prescribed is to seek refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan before reading, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
      “So when you want to recite the Qur’aan, seek refuge with Allaah from Shaytaan (Satan), the outcast (the cursed one)”
      [al-Nahl 16:98]
      This is part of the 5 daily prayers too before reading surah fateha.
      The Quran emphasizes this need for divine protection in several verses:
      1. **Surah Al-Falaq (113:1-5)**:
      "Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn, from the evil of what He has created..."
      2. **Surah An-Naas (114:1-6)**:
      "Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, the Sovereign of mankind, the God of mankind..."
      3. **Surah Al-A’raf (7:200)**:
      "And if an evil whisper comes to you from Satan, then seek refuge with Allah..."
      4. **Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:97-98)**:
      "And say: My Lord, I seek refuge with You from the incitements of the devils..."
      5. **Surah Fussilat (41:36)**:
      "And if there comes to you from Satan an evil suggestion, then seek refuge in Allah..."
      In each of the 5 prayers the refuge of the Lord is sought.
      A very significant number of prayers of the prophet include seeking the refuge of the Lord.
      O Allah! To You I have submitted, In You I have believed, Upon You I have depended (in all of my affairs), To You I have turned (in obedience), and With You (i.e. Your Aid) I make my argument and defense. O Allāh! Indeed, I seek refuge in Your ‘Izzah (Might, Power) - There is nothing which deserves to be worshiped besides You - from You misguiding me. You are al-Hayy (the Ever-Living) Who does not die, while the Jinn (creatures created from fire) and Ins (humans) die.
      [Sahih Muslim 2717]
      O Allah, I seek refuge in You lest I misguide others , or I am misguided by others , lest I cause others to err or I am caused to err , lest I abuse others or be abused, and lest I behave foolishly or meet with the foolishness of others.
      Abu Dawud: 5094, Ibn Majah: 3884
      When Afflicted with Doubt a The Prophet ordered
      He should seek refuge in Allaah.
      أَعُوْذُ بِاللّٰهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيْمِ
      I seek refuge in Allah from Satan the outcast.
      These Quranic verses, like those in the Old Testament, highlight the importance of seeking refuge in God as a means of protection from harm and evil.
      If the Old Testament is indeed the word of God, as believed by Jews and Christians, then the divine promise of protection should extend to all those who sincerely seek refuge in the Lord of Abraham and Moses. Muslims, who worship the God of Abraham, Moses, and Noah, are entitled to this protection if they earnestly seek refuge in Him.
      Given that Muslims actively seek refuge in the same God through their prayers, they too would be shielded by the same divine protection promised in the scriptures. So muslims must be guided if the Old Testament is the word of God.

    • @Moss-Malo
      @Moss-Malo Месяц назад +4

      Yes, Uthman and the goat are gangsters one burnt it one ate it lol😅 😅

    • @georgeh8937
      @georgeh8937 Месяц назад +1

      @@thistle_boy oh thistle. if you lived in mecca in 610 AD and heard muhammad claim to a prophet like the jewish prophets what would have convinced you it was possible for an arab to be a jewish prophet?

  • @Ex-MuslimTestimonies
    @Ex-MuslimTestimonies Месяц назад +253

    If the Quran is true, then Islam is false. Why? Because the Quran says to trust the Gospel and the Gospel contradict the Quran. This means the Quran can't be true if it says the gospel message is also true.

    • @solidsnake4200
      @solidsnake4200 Месяц назад +6

      Oh you seem to be very clever..where does it say to thrust the gospel. Bring the evidence.

    • @Ex-MuslimTestimonies
      @Ex-MuslimTestimonies Месяц назад +44

      @@solidsnake4200
      Lets start with those two verses, please explain them !
      Let the followers of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein, and those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are the transgressors. S 5:47
      Say to them: 'People of the Book! You have no solid ground to stand on unless you establish the Torah and the Gospel and all that had been revealed to you from your Lord. Indeed the message revealed to you from your Lord will aggravate insurgence and unbelief in many of them. So do not grieve for those who disbelieve S 5:68

    • @Serenity5460
      @Serenity5460 Месяц назад +2

      As muslim you have to take the route, that the gosple mohammed refered to, was a different one, and that the original one he had got corupted somehow. So its not a logical contradiction, but opens many further question.

    • @danielgomessilva8966
      @danielgomessilva8966 Месяц назад +27

      ​@@Serenity5460 You can't use the Quran to point to an Injil that proves the Quran. Thats circular reasoning fallacy.
      Although i respect your grandparents being Muslim, all your family, at this point you at least should know better and do better

    • @roenna.a
      @roenna.a Месяц назад

      ​@@danielgomessilva8966 Exactly, and this is what no muslim that I've pointed this out to has been able to respond to. The Quran commands Christians to judge the validity of the Quran by using their own scriptures. But muslims argue the Injeel and the Gospels are different- the Injeel was an oral revelation given to Jesus, and the Gospels that the Christians had at the time of the Muhammad were supposedly corrupted. To discover the true Injeel within the Gospels, the Christians were to compare the two scriptures, and anything that aligns with the Quran in the Gospels is the true Injeel. And there comes the circular reasoning. Christians are asked to use their scriptures to validate the Quran, but at the same time, they're told to only accept the parts of their scriptures that already agree with the Quran. This means the Quran is assumed to be the ultimate authority even before the comparison begins, making the process inherently biased, and placing the Christians in an impossible situation.
      I've had muslims try to argue that the Christians were supposed to judge the validity of the Quran by other means as well as by their own scriptures, but that is not what the Quran says. Christians are not commanded in the Quran to judge its validity by any other means besides their own scriptures.
      Edit: Very simply outlining the circular reasoning and logical fallacy of the command for the muslims who don't want to read my comment or understand the Islamic dilemma:
      1. The Quran commands Christians to validate its truth by using their own scriptures (Surah 5:47).
      2. Muslims and Muslim scholars argue that the Christian scriptures (the Bible) are corrupted, and only parts of the true "Injeel" remain within.
      3. Muslims and Muslim scholars also claim that Christians should find the true parts of the Injeel by comparing their scriptures to the Quran, with only the parts that align with the Quran considered valid.
      4. This requires Christians to assume the Quran's authority from the start to identify what is true in their own scriptures- but Christians are supposed to be investigating whether the Quran is true in the first place.

  • @jma7600
    @jma7600 Месяц назад +46

    This video will go down as a “classic exposition” of the Islamic Quran dilemma. I have been following Professor G S Reynolds for years, it’s the first time he speaks with more ease about what he really thinks and believes. In other words, it’s refreshing to see him take one glove off and come out of his prudent shell. Bravo for the host ! Brilliant interview.

    • @georgeh8937
      @georgeh8937 Месяц назад +3

      agree. reynolds wasn't really interested in religion except that his grandfather was arab. if we know that islam was invented by muhammad and his companions then that would ruin the field of islamic studies except as a way studying how a cult is created.

    • @akkafietje137
      @akkafietje137 Месяц назад +1

      There isn't any body in the world who can defend islam without shouting and lying. Nevermind if they call themselves imams, muftis or scholars.
      I do listen already many years to muslim debates, they are all the same

    • @loveroflife1914
      @loveroflife1914 Месяц назад

      @@georgeh8937 Reynolds is a devout Catholic. What do you mean?

    • @georgeh8937
      @georgeh8937 Месяц назад

      @@loveroflife1914 he just told us that he wasn't interested in christianity or islam growing up. when did he become catholic? and what is the official stance of catholics on islam?

    • @brettspearman3706
      @brettspearman3706 Месяц назад +2

      There are many dilemmas in Islam such as their issue with Jesus being rescued from the cross or replaced and what it says about the followers/desciples of Jesus.

  • @MU-we8hz
    @MU-we8hz Месяц назад +239

    hahaha, it's funny to see people catching up when Sam was saying this, 15-20 years ago?

    • @dissatisfiedphilosophy
      @dissatisfiedphilosophy Месяц назад +20

      I promise you that “Sam,” a RUclipsr who is not a scholar, was not on the cutting edge of Qur’anic study. This has been recognized by critical Qur’anic studies for quite some time, and Muslim scholars recognized this long ago

    • @jma7600
      @jma7600 Месяц назад

      Sam who ?

    • @MU-we8hz
      @MU-we8hz Месяц назад +57

      @@dissatisfiedphilosophy i never said Sam was on the cutting edge. I said Sam was saying this waaaaaay before anybody on youtube ever heard of this. Sam was also saying and revealing that the quran wasn't perfectly preserved waaaay before, for example Jay Smith ever talked about it.
      And saying "Sam a RUclipsr" clearly you have no idea who Sam is. I am not his biggest fan but most of the current youtube channels against islam are using his blogs, and yes, even David Wood. So, either get your facts right or don't say anything.

    • @MU-we8hz
      @MU-we8hz Месяц назад +28

      @@jma7600 Sam Shamoun.

    • @dolphinitely_bro3944
      @dolphinitely_bro3944 Месяц назад +6

      I think people are trying to profit off of it tbh. Most these people hate sam and its truly sad

  • @Body-Of-Christ-70x7
    @Body-Of-Christ-70x7 Месяц назад +221

    Without lies, Islam dies.

    • @jonathanguyot624
      @jonathanguyot624 Месяц назад

      indeed, Isalm is lame, I slam Islam.

    • @uthman2281
      @uthman2281 Месяц назад +2

      what lies?

    • @dmam412
      @dmam412 Месяц назад +3

      Without list Islam is dust.

    • @dmam412
      @dmam412 Месяц назад +10

      @@uthman2281many including denying Jesus crucifixion

    • @bangbang-nb7gi
      @bangbang-nb7gi Месяц назад

      Funny how so called christians resort to completely lying, when they don't even know their own corrupted bible, which their own top scholars have proven to be corrupted. then using the old testament to try to justify their absurd beliefs when Jew refute them. this is a complete joke.

  • @josesantiago8666
    @josesantiago8666 Месяц назад +67

    Dr. Reynolds looks uncomfortable talking about this. I hope the lord protects him.

    • @CedanyTheAlaskan
      @CedanyTheAlaskan Месяц назад +11

      Knows, depending on where he is, his head could be at risk...

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@josesantiago8666 My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him alone

    • @kkunknownkk
      @kkunknownkk Месяц назад

      Stop acting weak. You guys fear islam more then you fear god, that's your issue. Vigilantism is forbidden in islam, yet you guys act like there's muslims hiding around in bushes ready to behead infidels.
      Or you could continue to fear us, I don't mind either.

    • @pjoat
      @pjoat 15 дней назад

      Come on, he is talking about the Religion of Peace.

  • @thoughtfultheology449
    @thoughtfultheology449 Месяц назад +13

    I really appreciate Gabriel, he seemed like a very knowledgeable and kind guy! He was very easy to listen to. Thanks to both of you!

  • @anulire
    @anulire Месяц назад +33

    I hope David Wood do a stream on this. He was among the first concerning islamic dilemma

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      People like David Wood are desperate to find an Islamic dilemma lol. He can't solve his own religion's dilemmas so its easier to make up some about others isn't it?

    • @englishtofrenchchristianap8314
      @englishtofrenchchristianap8314 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@thistle_boyWhat is the Injeel?

    • @donovan8747
      @donovan8747 Месяц назад

      @@thistle_boy Desperate to find Islamic dilemma like wife beating, child marriage, polygamy, misogyny, FGM, paganism/idolatry (eg. kissing black stone, praying to a building, circling kaaba, praying to Muhammad's grave)?
      Nobody is desperate. The proof is in front of our eyes, Muslims are just keep denying the obvious.

    • @malajamesaaaa
      @malajamesaaaa Месяц назад +1

      Thanks to Nabeel Qureshi

    • @malajamesaaaa
      @malajamesaaaa Месяц назад +1

      Muslims define god. What befits him according to their human mind. Actually the inability of Allah being an almighty makes him their god.

  • @MetroMan13
    @MetroMan13 Месяц назад +75

    Al-Ilah showed me the beauty and wonders of Islam. That's why i didn't become a Muslim. Inshallah.

    • @user-followyeshua
      @user-followyeshua Месяц назад +6

      That's a good one

    • @theresachilz
      @theresachilz Месяц назад +5

      You ate on this comment 😂😂😂😂

    • @FahadAyaz
      @FahadAyaz Месяц назад +8

      I think you mean MashaAllah, not inshaAllah

    • @dundadunda552
      @dundadunda552 Месяц назад +2

      U meant to say mashallah 😊😊

    • @MetroMan13
      @MetroMan13 Месяц назад +14

      My bad, Al-Ilah deceived the words from my head, I'll remember to use mashallah next time.

  • @malcolmlayton2050
    @malcolmlayton2050 Месяц назад +27

    If the earthly copies of Allah's previous revelations can be changed corrupted and lost then the earthly copy of the Quran is worthless because Allah's revelations can be changed corrupted and lost

    • @samarmakhoul8417
      @samarmakhoul8417 Месяц назад +4

      Allah has this kind of childish behaviour, only preserving Mohammad's book...how convenient😂

  • @mr.angelosonassis3069
    @mr.angelosonassis3069 Месяц назад +163

    If Allah gave a 'book' called Injeel to Jesus, and if Allah did not preserve his words perfectly, then Islam is false. Allah's words cannot be altered or destroyed according to the Koran. Allah preserves his words. If the Injeel disappeared then Islam is false.

    • @alwaysright5901
      @alwaysright5901 Месяц назад +29

      Exactly! The quran also says that if there is an error within it, then it's a false book NOT from God. Well, there are at least 3 verses that Umar said that made it in the quran (Sahih Bukhari 402). Allah is known as the best deceiver of all (quran 3:54 and 8:30) and he sure deceived over a billion around the world. So sad.

    • @proquow
      @proquow Месяц назад +2

      There is no 'injeel' in the way the Quran would love to have it be portrayed, it's just a poor ruse and argument. Obviously a remnant from 10th century polemics between Orthodox Christians and Muslims which can't be expounded upon because...it's just obviously misdirection lol.
      The problem is that if Muslims admit that the Bible is NOT corrupt, they have to admit that there is *no theological reason why God would hand down a written gospel to his Son who is the WORD OF GOD*
      They refuse to look stupid and in trying to avoid it, look even more dumb.

    • @shariengodfried4899
      @shariengodfried4899 Месяц назад +7

      allah IS NOT GOD ,WHEN MUSLIM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS. HOW SOONER BETTER FOR THE MUSLIMS PEOPLE ,,JESUS WAS THE GOSPEL,THE WORD SAID : THAT GOD THE FATHER HAS SEND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO THIS WORLD TO SAVE MANKIND ,JOHN 3 : 16 - 18 THAT GOD GIVE JESUS THE GOSPEL IS BIG LIAR OF MUSLIM RELIGIOUS ,,THERE IS NO BASE FOR MUSLIMS RELIGIOUS IN THE BIBLE . .

    • @YousipEnwiya
      @YousipEnwiya Месяц назад +1

      Islam is fake

    • @MrIgnorance
      @MrIgnorance Месяц назад

      ​@@shariengodfried4899when u hv brain and believe god bo need to hv child u gonna understand what is God

  • @HassanRadwan133
    @HassanRadwan133 Месяц назад +10

    Gabriel Said Reynolds is one of my favourite Qur'anic Studies scholars. Muhammad's references to the Injeel reminds me of the fuzzy thinking of New Age Perennialism. He wanted to embrace past religions, but only in a vague, nebulous way that suited his narrative.

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 Месяц назад

      One question since you've left islam and considers it to be false and believe that the quran is unreliable and filled with many discrepancies and you seem to feel the same way about all abrahamic religions
      But then why don't you consider dharmic religions for a change it won't hurt you to learn about different faiths plus the dharmic religions don't go around preaching that you have to covert to their religion just to be saved instead they teach live and let live
      also what's wrong with perennialism

    • @HassanRadwan133
      @HassanRadwan133 Месяц назад

      @@theguyver4934 I'm quite happy without any religion and since it doesn't matter whether or not I follow a dharmic religion then there's no need for me to follow one.
      As for Perennialism, while I agree there are many commonalities to be found in most religions, there are also fundamental aspects of many that are at odds and can't be reconciled. Take Islam and Christianity for example.

    • @GraceAbrhamsGa1970
      @GraceAbrhamsGa1970 20 дней назад

      ​@@HassanRadwan133if someone is a Quran studies scholar , does that mean he is muslim

  • @christiangadfly24
    @christiangadfly24 Месяц назад +6

    YES! I've seen this guy around in my suggestedes. I'm so glad you had him on! You rock Bertuzzi!

  • @danielgomessilva8966
    @danielgomessilva8966 Месяц назад +19

    I am happy that you are coming now deep into Islam.
    I've been watching their debates, specially the ones between christians and muslims, reading the Quran and making my collection of Sahih Hadiths for a while, trying to dive really deep into the arguments.
    2 top important things that pop up are:
    - who says Mohammad is a prophet? By which standar? Being a self proclaimed prophet counts?
    - the quran affirms the Bible. Ah alright, the bible isn't the Injil. Then where is the Injil?
    Basically Islam is a Polemic against Judeo-Christian principles and theology.
    And above all is based on CIRCULAR REASONING FALLACY:
    - Use the Quran to point to the Injil to prove the Quran. - Big brain move 🧠
    The Quran is the unit of measurement for everything else. Why? Because trust me bro.
    CIRCULAR REASONING FALLACY

    • @joehouston2833
      @joehouston2833 Месяц назад +5

      RUclips: Christian Prince ❤

    • @danielgomessilva8966
      @danielgomessilva8966 Месяц назад +3

      @@joehouston2833 i prefer Sam, Godlogic and David

    • @wakuwakuX
      @wakuwakuX Месяц назад +2

      Who says mohamad is a prophet? khadijah and waraqa b. naufal.😁- (sira nabawiyya by Ibn Hisham)
      By the standard that a fleshy-red mole was found between mohamad's shouIders, resembling the egg of a pigeon.😁- (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3644, Sahih Muslim 2346). Perhaps a tumor?
      The koran is true because the koran says that the koran is true. ROFL

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@danielgomessilva8966 My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him alone

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@danielgomessilva8966 As for the distortion of the Gospel, it can be said that it began when Paul showed his embrace of Christianity, to work on undermining it from within, and he began writing his fourteen pagan letters, which occupy a large part of the Bible - for Christians - and include principles in the doctrine, law, and foundations of the religion that he invented. In these letters, he states that he learned these principles and rulings from Christ - peace and blessings be upon him - and that he received the Gospel from him. It was stated in Paul's letter to the Galatians: Now I make known to you, brothers, that the gospel which I preached is not according to man, for I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
      Paul's letter to the Galatians, number 12011, chapter one.
      The influence of Paul and his role in the distortion. He says: This Paul is the one who took the religion of Jesus out of its natural garment and into a new garment. He is the one who changed the description of Jesus from the Son of Man, which the disciples used to call him, to the Son of God. He is the one who abolished the exclusivity of the religion of Jesus to his Jewish people, and allowed all polytheists to enter it. He abolished the law of Moses regarding circumcision, and many other laws, to please the new polytheists and the rest of Greek society... and he is the one who caused the scandal of the crucifixion and the Lord’s Supper... etc. O People of the Book, come, p. 106, quoted from Christianity.

  • @devanne3
    @devanne3 Месяц назад +143

    "The Standard narrative has holes in it."
    -Sheikh Yasir Qadhi😂

    • @MetroMan13
      @MetroMan13 Месяц назад +11

      @@devanne3
      More holes than swiss cheese 🧀.

    • @dmam412
      @dmam412 Месяц назад +6

      Forgot the date there bud June 8 2020

    • @Raverraver9999
      @Raverraver9999 Месяц назад

      RUclips video : “Mario Joseph, Muslim Imam convert to Christianity”
      Quran - 114 chapters , 6666 words in Quran
      Mentioned: Prop Mohd 4 place, Jesus 25 places
      No womens name in Quran. Only Mariam, mother of Jesus., one whole chapter
      Chap 3:19 - Family of Mariam, Mariam
      Qur 3:34 onwards - mary was born without original sin, sinless, ever virgin,
      Qur 50:23 - went to heaven with physical body
      Qur 3:45-55 - 10 points quran makes about Jesus
      Calls him kalimutullah (word of God), ruhhullah (spirit of God), Isil Masihi (jesus Christ - The Anointed)
      Jesus spoke when 2 days old, at 4 years old he breathed life into mud(bird) and created life, cured a blind man, man with leprosy, Jesus gave life to dead people. Jesus went to heaven, he is still alive and will come again.
      According to Quran - Prop Mohammad is not the word of God, not the spirit of God, never cured any sick people, never raised any dead people, never made any miracles (breathe life into mud > bird),
      he himself died and will not come back.
      Jesus is a prophet greater than Mohammad.
      How did God create the universe? Through the Word of God ( kalimatullah)
      Is the Word of God ( kalimatullah) - a Creator or Creation?
      Quran says Jesus is the word of God.
      Quran says Jesus is still alive, but Muhammad is no more.
      Who to accept?
      Qur 10:94 If you have any doubt in this quran which I give to you, go and read the bible or ask the people who read the bible. The truth is already revealed in that.
      The quran itself will make you Christian.
      ruclips.net/video/WjUXd4qW9mg/видео.html
      I found the best explanation of the trinity in Quran in Islam. The ritual aspect first 10 mins, the scriptural part is from the 10th minute onwards.
      ruclips.net/video/TdQcUvHl3Wo/видео.html

    • @ryuzaki5491
      @ryuzaki5491 Месяц назад +1

      @@devanne3 Yasir Qadhi isn't a Scholar. And nowhere will he claim himself to be a scholar either.

    • @devanne3
      @devanne3 Месяц назад +1

      @@ryuzaki5491 Go watch the original video with no Muslim bias to tell you what to think and then you will see for yourself

  • @THOTH-
    @THOTH- Месяц назад +21

    It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah observed:
    Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.

    • @babisbabinos8075
      @babisbabinos8075 Месяц назад

      That's interesting...

    • @CroatiaWien
      @CroatiaWien 19 дней назад

      Is this truth

    • @THOTH-
      @THOTH- 19 дней назад

      @@CroatiaWien Its very true my friend! Islam is evil, so stay far away from it!

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
    @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Месяц назад +22

    The only strategy I have seen Dawah members do is to confound, deflect, distract and deceive whenever they are confronted with the Quranic Dilemma.

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      "Quranic Dilemma" is a failed last ditch effort by Christians who wonder why churches are always converting into mosques and are frustrated with the holy spirit for creating 45,000 different denominations all of which are grossly wrong.

  • @durellteesdale7297
    @durellteesdale7297 Месяц назад +3

    Greetings Cam.
    I’m just gonna a say it. This session and your prelude some days back is really super content . A really great addition to the library of religious discourse. This is in your top 10 . Bless up .

  • @Ian-ue6tx
    @Ian-ue6tx Месяц назад +6

    Epic interview, thanks y'all

  • @Metarig
    @Metarig Месяц назад +70

    So now you’re telling me that only a seasoned Quran scholar can tackle and showcase this as a problem for Muslims? Look, I was raised Muslim and switched to Christianity in my 20s, and I’ve been scratching my head over the same thing. What’s this Injil you speak of? You mean to tell me Jesus had a book? Where’s the proof? Where did this book vanish to? It just doesn’t add up that Jesus would have a book and there’s not a trace of it left. Anyway, I guess I must’ve been a genius to question this in the first place, huh?

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising Месяц назад +9

      They just copied the Gospels by the sound of it. Jesus already had had a book written about him long before mohammed arrived on the scene, they didn't have a book (about mohammed) at that time, only oral tradition. So they had to create one which was subsequently added to/updated by various different scholars every so often. That's why there are so many different q'rans.

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +15

      Even in the name "injil", from Greek "euangelion" (good news) points directly to christian tradition of scripture, yet muslims don't believe Isa brought any news, only the same message as every other one of their alleged prophets.
      The evangelion is the good news _about_ Jesus Christ. His incarnation, His message, His fulfillment of messianic prophecy, His victory over death and the grave, and His ultimate revelation of God in the flesh to mankind.
      The arguments muslims have to come up with are always nonsensical because their prophet and their book already conceded.

    • @benrex7775
      @benrex7775 Месяц назад +3

      I don't think this is what Cameron intends to say.
      This is a very good question as it is easily understandable for lay people. Cameron tries to find out what scholars say to this question. Sometimes an easy to understand contradiction has a good solution when we listen to the scholars. And this interview shows that the strategy of Muslim scholars is to just avoid the contradiction.
      To bring in my point I will bring another example. Many Muslims think that the trinity is wrong because 1+1+1=1. This is actually quite the convincing argument against Christianity, until you hear how Christians solve it. And with the solution of the Christians it is suddenly not a problem anymore. It may still has some mysterious aspects to it, but it is not a logical contradiction anymore.
      Because of that, not all arguments which are intuitive are also rigorous. Once we hear that scholars also don't have a solution then we can continue using the intuitive argument with even more boldness.

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      You were Muslim but didn't know where the proof of Jesus having Injeel is? LoL, liar exposed. You also don't know why it isn't with us today? These are elementary questions with elementary answers. Read a book. Ask someone. Holy crap.

    • @sasa_sasa_sasa230
      @sasa_sasa_sasa230 Месяц назад +1

      Historical genses of quran is much much different from islamic narative and shiw that quran is man made book(from multiple man) and basically lectuanaris of apocrifa stories and fairy tales and Jewish Talmud and Misticizm to a different groups of people. + Gnostic Manacean

  • @Sarah-wt7pl
    @Sarah-wt7pl Месяц назад +4

    Very good discussion brother. We need as many apologists as possible to expose Islam. Keep the good work up!!

  • @ToursPoitiers732
    @ToursPoitiers732 Месяц назад +4

    Dr. Reynolds is one of the most renowned scholars of Islam of our times. I hope he one days connects to christian apologetics like DaWood and Sam Shamounian.
    It would be an honour to write my PhD Thesis under Dr. Reynolds

  • @proquow
    @proquow Месяц назад +9

    You actually had him so flustered that he couldn't say anything too critical on many of these questions. Props to Gabriel for toughing it out through the pain. 👏😭

  • @ImCarolB
    @ImCarolB Месяц назад +8

    That was excellent! I'd like to hear more from that guest.

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
    @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Месяц назад +50

    It is sad that academia and Islamic blowback does not allow Dr. Reynolds to speak freely. Hopefully, one day he will write an unfettered account after he retires.

    • @learningbyzcath
      @learningbyzcath Месяц назад +2

      He has a book lol

    • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
      @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Месяц назад +2

      @@learningbyzcath Do you think he wrote openly? He seems hesitant in this interview to state certain positions.

    • @learningbyzcath
      @learningbyzcath Месяц назад +2

      @@bringemyoungpbuh4123 yea. I think he's only hesitant because he wants to be charitable towards his fellow Muslim colleagues

  • @gabrielaprofetaphillips1740
    @gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 Месяц назад +14

    Islam. You are the People of the Book. You have no Book…. You have instead to follow a book that is in your hands but no one EVER held it in his hands

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 As for the distortion of the Gospel, it can be said that it began when Paul showed his embrace of Christianity, to work on undermining it from within, and he began writing his fourteen pagan letters, which occupy a large part of the Bible - for Christians - and include principles in the doctrine, law, and foundations of the religion that he invented. In these letters, he states that he learned these principles and rulings from Christ - peace and blessings be upon him - and that he received the Gospel from him. It was stated in Paul's letter to the Galatians: Now I make known to you, brothers, that the gospel which I preached is not according to man, for I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
      Paul's letter to the Galatians, number 12011, chapter one.
      The influence of Paul and his role in the distortion. He says: This Paul is the one who took the religion of Jesus out of its natural garment and into a new garment. He is the one who changed the description of Jesus from the Son of Man, which the disciples used to call him, to the Son of God. He is the one who abolished the exclusivity of the religion of Jesus to his Jewish people, and allowed all polytheists to enter it. He abolished the law of Moses regarding circumcision, and many other laws, to please the new polytheists and the rest of Greek society... and he is the one who caused the scandal of the crucifixion and the Lord’s Supper... etc. O People of the Book, come, p. 106, quoted from Christianity.

  • @Abrieb
    @Abrieb Месяц назад +11

    Interview starts at: 3:18

  • @LivingWateraide
    @LivingWateraide Месяц назад +49

    Dude doesn't want to lose his head

    • @tobyc8668
      @tobyc8668 Месяц назад +6

      Yeah, he seems afraid to speak his mind. And, trying too much to be politically correct

    • @c.w_
      @c.w_ Месяц назад +1

      Oops! I have said to much 😂😂😂😂

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@LivingWateraide My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him alone

    • @mlandenizwane3955
      @mlandenizwane3955 Месяц назад +1

      Religion of peace 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @kkunknownkk
      @kkunknownkk Месяц назад

      No he just knows you christians have no argument but he does't want to break cameron's heart. The section on whether the gospel or Quran is more preserved was hilarious.

  • @orangemanbad
    @orangemanbad Месяц назад +79

    As a former believer in the qur’an I can say first hand it’s the easiest of all holy books to prove false. It’s full of errors, almost nonstop. Historical and scientific inaccuracies. But worse, I believed it was the preserved word of God because this is what’s taught. However it turns out:
    1. There are over 36 original Qurans.
    2. The current version of the Quran (Hafs) wasn’t certified until 1924. Yes, the 20th century is when the Quran became what it is.
    3. The qirat and ahruf absolutely disprove it. Yaser Qadhi explains this well by saying “we simply cannot teach this to the masses because their faith will be at risk. We must not speak of it to normal Muslims only super advanced students.”
    4. The Quran didn’t even understand the Trinity. Literally teaches that Christians believe Mary is part of the Trinity. The Muslims will say this was because he was speaking about a small cult sect of Christians yet they say the Quran is preserved in heaven as eternal word of God. So God chose the smallest sect that nobody has ever known about as the example for all eternity? This alone disproves it.
    5. The satanic verses. Muhammad became demon possessed by Satan who gave words to him from God to worship other gods. Muhammad later apologized for giving evil teachings to his students.
    6. We now know Mecca was not the original place of Muhammad. It was likely Petra or potentially iraq. No historical evidence for Muslims in Mecca whatsoever in the early centuries.
    7. The Quran texted the gospel is true and from God. In the late 8th century when the Quran was produced, the gospel was already established for 5-6 centuries. So God approved of the current version of the gospel. New age Muslims now claim the word of god wasn’t what he actually meant.
    8. We now know from the historical record, “Muhammad” was actually a man named Quathem which in Arabic means “feces.”
    9. Muhammad/Quathem had terrible character. He not only slept with children, he stole wives from his followers, constantly abrogated his earlier words for new teachings of a supposed eternal law? Make that make sense.
    10. “By their fruits you shall know them.”show me good fruits of Islam?
    And lastly, the Quran is near perfect as the satanic Bible, how? Well, it teaches all the stories retold from the Bible. Which tricks people to think it’s the same God. He even preaches of Jesus, but changes just a couple of things: 1. Jesus is not divine. 2. Jesus did not die he tricked to people into crucifying an innocent man in his place. 3. Denies Jesus role for salvation. So it rejects our salvation by believing in it.
    Islam is most certainly from Satan. If you want proof, research their messiah the Mahdi and compare him to the antichrist of the Bible. 1. He will create a peace for 7 years. 2. He will murder all Christian and Jews. 3. He will have a prophet Jesus before him to point to him as the savior which directly shows the false prophet of the Bible who will come before the antichrist to point to him as the one.
    Evil.

    • @danielanthony8373
      @danielanthony8373 Месяц назад +5

      👍👍

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +4

      I agree on the last part certainly.
      There are two things that become clear the more familiar you become with the bible and quran:
      1. the PIVOTAL teaching at the core of islam is that Jesus is not God. Believers get all caught up in the laws and rituals but
      2. whomever wrote the quran was clueless about the bible while simultaneously insinuating islam with the bible as a scheme to give itself an appearance of legitimacy.
      It is tragic that the church was slow to spread to the people of that part of the world, because satan exploited that longing for truth to play with the ignorance in the region, causing it to become violent and spread against the arabs who had recieved the true gospel.

    • @jonathanguyot624
      @jonathanguyot624 Месяц назад +1

      Amen

    • @robertlee8519
      @robertlee8519 Месяц назад +2

      Beelzebub also = feces
      (Lord of the flies)

    • @MakaiJohnkenneth
      @MakaiJohnkenneth Месяц назад +1

      You said it much..true

  • @jojowallace8458
    @jojowallace8458 Месяц назад +5

    Cameron you're the man, and really glad you're diving into it 👍 💪

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips Месяц назад +3

    This guy also did a great interview over a Reason and Theology. I highly recommend it!

  • @ShowaGojira92
    @ShowaGojira92 Месяц назад +9

    Great interview! You shouid bring Raymond Ibrahim on next, talk about the history of the Christian Crusades in reaction to Islamic Jihad.

  • @benclark1482
    @benclark1482 Месяц назад +9

    This channel has stepped it's game up a lot in the past couple months.

    • @CapturingChristianity
      @CapturingChristianity  Месяц назад +5

      Thanks!!

    • @Kalypso24
      @Kalypso24 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@CapturingChristianityPlease invite either Dr Beau Branson or Dr Joshua Sijuwade (and maybe even Dr Rasmussen for feedback) to discuss their model of the Trinity and address the so-called 'Logical Problem of the Trinity.'

    • @sclsaktrc3311
      @sclsaktrc3311 Месяц назад

      ​@@CapturingChristianity
      Bukhari 4987
      `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then WRITE it in the DIALECT of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue."
      How to write in dialect of quraish when the vocalization havent invent yet.
      you can find the pdf on archive.
      JAM’ AL-QURAN
      Codification of the Quran Text
      John Gilchrist
      Initial Collection, Uthmanic Recension, Codices Of Ibn Mas'ud And Ubayy Ibn Ka'b, Missing Passages, Seven Different Readings, Compilation Of The Qr In Perspective, Early Surviving Qr Manuscripts.

    • @andys3035
      @andys3035 Месяц назад +2

      ​@CapturingChristianity this one was good Cameron. You have been doing some good work recently. God bless you ☦️

  • @BlackHoledood
    @BlackHoledood Месяц назад +76

    Former muslim here..

    • @deechonada
      @deechonada Месяц назад +3

      Former christian here...

    • @faigameati
      @faigameati Месяц назад +17

      @@deechonada😂😂 you mad bro

    • @SKY-yh5ey
      @SKY-yh5ey Месяц назад +8

      @@deechonadaImagine having truth but converting, truly praying for you

    • @RubyJeans943
      @RubyJeans943 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@deechonadaI pray you return to the Truth.

    • @deechonada
      @deechonada Месяц назад

      @@SKY-yh5ey thanks bro

  • @bilbobaggins9893
    @bilbobaggins9893 Месяц назад +8

    Good video Cam! I’d like to see you do scholarly dives into the problems with a number of religions. Mormonism seems to be trending on youtube amongst the religious channels of late, so that would be a fun one. Examining the historical problems with the Book of Mormon, especially considering some Mormons are trying to argue for its validity based on the assertion that the evidence and methodology is equal to that of the New Testament. Spoiler alert, it’s not, but I’d like to see a scholarly response to it.

  • @projectiledreamz
    @projectiledreamz Месяц назад +1

    Great video! Cameron loved your subtle smile to some of the claims of the muslim scholars

  • @TheOrthodoxAlbanian
    @TheOrthodoxAlbanian Месяц назад +4

    Great video!

  • @christiangadfly24
    @christiangadfly24 Месяц назад +6

    You could not have picked a better scholar and could not have asked better questions. I'm going to be using clips from this probably for years.

  • @Truth791
    @Truth791 Месяц назад +9

    Muslims need to embrace critical analysis when approaching preservation of their scripts.. informative podcast 👍

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      Spoken like a true ignoramus.

    • @Truth791
      @Truth791 Месяц назад +3

      @@thistle_boy is this a compliment or insult seeing that Muhammad was both illetrate and ignorant..

    • @proquow
      @proquow Месяц назад +6

      ​@@Truth791The preservation of Islamic texts has always been a challenge. Historically, multiple versions of the Qur'an existed, but Uthman, the third caliph, standardized the text by burning six other versions. While the Hafs qira'at (Egypt) is the most widely used in the Middle East today, it’s not universal-West Africa, for example, predominantly uses the Warsh qira'at.
      After Muhammad’s death, the early Islamic community resorted to warfare to spread and preserve their religion. The Rashidun Caliphate expanded rapidly, conquering the Byzantine Empire, uniting Arabia, and then setting its sights on Europe, particularly Spain and Italy.
      Islam is a nightmare, theologically. Secular scholars like Gabriel acknowledge these problems, but as you can tell from the video, they have to tread carefully to avoid backlash and death threats from the Islamic world and extremists!

    • @Amrishpoori
      @Amrishpoori 20 дней назад

      ​@@proquowit's misleading to say different Qiraaats are different versions. It's just a mode of recitation as Quran was predominantly passed on orally and then to ink. These modes of recitation were allowed during Prophet PBUH time. To help people understand it's like the difference between American and Scottish accents.

  • @FaithandReason79
    @FaithandReason79 Месяц назад +4

    This is timely discussion please do more on this topic it is real dilemma

    • @sethsuleiman4419
      @sethsuleiman4419 Месяц назад

      Where is the injil which was revealed to jesus? The same question csn be asked of the original gospels; where are the originals?

  • @TestifyApologetics
    @TestifyApologetics Месяц назад +11

    Great interview keep these coming. Jesus probably spoke at least some greek tho...

    • @danielgomessilva8966
      @danielgomessilva8966 Месяц назад +5

      If he grew up in Egypt he was fluent in Greek. That was the Lingua Franca of the time since Alexander and the Ptolemaic dynasty - the time we get the SEPTUAGINT

    • @MetroMan13
      @MetroMan13 Месяц назад +1

      🐐 channel.

  • @inkyfingers3447
    @inkyfingers3447 Месяц назад +41

    The original Koran was a Christian book. They tried to remove the deity of Christ and replace him with Mohammed. They even put Mohammed next to God and call him The Praised One. That title should belong to God alone.

    • @DenyUrSelf
      @DenyUrSelf Месяц назад +2

      yes are you an original quran believer too like GL and DW?

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад +1

      Try harder lol.

    • @cesardiezv
      @cesardiezv Месяц назад +1

      ​@@DenyUrSelf Or maybe Jay Smith.

    • @uthman2281
      @uthman2281 Месяц назад

      yeah according to you

    • @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo
      @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo Месяц назад

      The evidence is Islam started from an heretical antitrinitarian Christian sect and developed by Abd Malik.

  • @Prft.MohammadSmith
    @Prft.MohammadSmith Месяц назад +21

    I made it all up to get rich. Peace be upon me

    • @englishtofrenchchristianap8314
      @englishtofrenchchristianap8314 Месяц назад +3

      Putin Be Upon You 😅

    • @Prft.MohammadSmith
      @Prft.MohammadSmith Месяц назад +1

      @@englishtofrenchchristianap8314 maybey,he is almost as cute as Dihyah.

    • @ryuzaki5491
      @ryuzaki5491 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Prft.MohammadSmithHe would have been a lot rocher had he accepted the Christian paradigm though. Would get a lot more followers.

    • @Prft.MohammadSmith
      @Prft.MohammadSmith Месяц назад +1

      @@ryuzaki5491 No, I couldn't do the Christian thing. I would have to give my newfound riches to the poor. That's why I didn't do it like that.. Think,man.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan Месяц назад +1

      @@ryuzaki5491 yeah right. you should not call yourself ryuzaki because light yagami is Mohammed.
      1
      How rich was Paul compared to Mohammed? How many wives or slaves or whatever did Paul or Jesus have? See Philippians 2:11. Jesus was a slave to Jews & gentiles. Mohammed enslaved Jews & gentiles.
      2
      Btw why did light die the way Mohammed did while Lelouch died the way Moses & Jesus did? Because light and Mohammed are evil while Lelouch Moses Jesus are good?
      3
      Is Moeha Fujiwara gei for Kei Shirogane?

  • @johnnk3256
    @johnnk3256 Месяц назад +9

    There are like 28 versions of the Koran. Ms Hatun has collected them all and exposed it. She's been doing it for years now. Go check it out!

    • @murielpucoe9213
      @murielpucoe9213 Месяц назад +3

      There are 700 says Dr Shadi Nasser, islamic studies, at Harvard. He was interviewed on Mythvision.

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      list their Amazon links please.

    • @eddykimo71
      @eddykimo71 Месяц назад

      @@murielpucoe9213why don’t u show us two deferent Qurans… I dare u

  • @fedesetrtatio1
    @fedesetrtatio1 Месяц назад +4

    What an informative conversation.

  • @blokechain
    @blokechain Месяц назад +2

    As a Muslim I appreciate Gabriel’s efforts for trying to understand Islam may allah guide him to the truth.

    • @GraceAbrhamsGa1970
      @GraceAbrhamsGa1970 20 дней назад

      May God guide you to The Way, the Truth and the Life. Follow the lord Jesus and you find the True, the Good, and the beautiful

  • @joehouston2833
    @joehouston2833 Месяц назад +14

    Where is the proof a historical figure name Muhammad even existed?

    • @iamdigory
      @iamdigory Месяц назад

      While there is less evidence than for Jesus, almost everyone until recently, Muslim and anti Muslim alike has agreed he existed.

    • @EPICSOUNDTRAX
      @EPICSOUNDTRAX Месяц назад +7

      ​@@iamdigoryyes he existed
      Was predicted by Jesus
      False prophets will come and teach fraud
      There you go and we have Islam
      As false religion .

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@iamdigoryThere are many non-Christian references to Jesus from his time. And, the gospels describe actual places and people.

    • @collybever
      @collybever Месяц назад +1

      There were a few warlords using the name MHMD in the 7C, but in Northern areas, not down in Mecca. One attacked Jerusalem, and seemed to be have a coarse ill-informed version of Christianity, not Islam. MHMD was also used for the title of some Jewish exilarchs, and also Syrian christians were using it as a title for Jesus. But the Rashidun caliphs are not present, unless one equates Amr with Umar, as a coarse ill-educated fellow who attacked Egypt, but his motive was primarily to get the tax from a wealthy former Byzantine province. Muawiya is real and documented, but is using christian symbols, so not Islamic. Abd El Malik looks as if he was moving towards Islamic concepts in his coins and Dome of the Rock and Arabisation of administration, late 7C, so 60 years too late. [What I've garnered from various historical analyses on y/t - needs checking for accuracy).

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 Месяц назад

      @collybever I suspect the Arab conquest of Egypt was, rather than an invasion, Arab auxiliaries of the Persians who remained in control there after Emperor Heracules won the war.

  • @NLovejoy-c2f
    @NLovejoy-c2f Месяц назад +2

    I love and appreciate Gabriels attempt at unbiased scholarship, seeking to truly understand and properly represent all sides of an issue is absolutely the right way to do things. However, it seemed to me at points he was afraid to engage and answer questions that, based on the information he had already confirmed and admitted, had a clear answer. For example the last question "What do you think the Injeel is" and his answer is that "We don't have enough information from the Quran to answer that", Yet, we do know the majority of the Christians in the area were Nicene trinitarian Christians with the 27 book gospel, we do know that the word Injeel does intend the word "gospel", we do know what holy book was around in the hands of those orthodox Christians at the time of Muhammad, we do know a whole bunch of information about the context in which it was written, and the Christians it was attributed to. That seems to me to be wayyyyyy more than enough information to come to a conclusion about what exactly is being referred to. I just would encourage him that it is okay to come to conclusions based on the information you have in front of you. I understand the desire to not over extend on points, but the point seems to be pretty clearly solidified and he didn't seem aware of any counter arguments that held any genuine weight against it. You don't need to validate bad arguments.

  • @LionOf.Christ
    @LionOf.Christ Месяц назад +38

    The Internet is The worst thing happened to Islam

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      ‏For those who say that our master Muhammad is not a prophet. A good news from the Gospel of Matthew, in which Christ says: Verily, verily, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, this is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. (Matthew 11/11-15). * Dr. Munther said: The least in the kingdom of heaven is Elijah who is to come, whom the prophets prophesied, one prophet after another, and the last of them was John the Baptist. So who is the least Elijah in the kingdom of heaven? He is Muhammad, the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, who was made smaller by his later time than the other prophets, but he surpassed them all by the completion of his message and God’s satisfaction with his religion as a final religion until the Day of Judgment. If it is not Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, then who is it? A Christian cannot claim that Jesus is the last of the messengers and prophets because of their belief in the message of his disciples and others like Paul, and his message was not completed, peace be upon him, as evidenced by the modification and abrogation that the disciples made to it in the first Jerusalem Council, claiming to make it easier for the converts, so they abolished circumcision, and permitted some of the prohibitions of the Torah... This lesser one will come in the kingdom of heaven, which had not yet been established at that time, and he is about to come and has not yet come, he is Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace. End quote.
      ‏* This good news also came in the Gospel of Luke: But what did you go out to see, a prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet, this is he of whom it is written: Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you. For I say to you, Among those born of women there is no prophet greater than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. (Luke 7/26).
      ‏Dr. Munther Bishara from the Gospel of John said: John is unique in his Gospel in mentioning these successive glad tidings from Christ about this awaited prophet, where Christ says, advising his disciples: If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, that he may abide with you forever, the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you... If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me does not keep my word, and the word you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. These things I have spoken to you, and I am with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you... Now I have told you before it comes, so that when it does come to pass you may believe, I will no longer talk much with you, for the prince of this world is coming, and he has nothing in me. (John 14/15 - 30). In the next chapter, Christ, peace be upon him, preaches to his disciples, asking them to keep his commandments, then he says: When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will testify about me, and you also will bear witness because you were with me from the beginning. I have spoken these things to you so that you will not be offended. They will put you out of the synagogues, and the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he is offering service to God... Sorrow has filled your hearts, but I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment. Of sin, because they do not believe in me; of righteousness, because I go to the Father and you see me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears, that will he speak. And he will declare to you things to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. (John 15/26 - 16/14) He said: In these texts, Christ, peace be upon him, speaks about the characteristics of the one who comes after him. So who is this one who is coming? Muslims believe that what was mentioned in John about the Comforter, the ruler of this coming world, is in fact a good news from Christ about our Prophet - may God bless him and grant him peace - and this is evident from a number of things, including that the word "Comforter" is a modern word that was replaced by new translations of the New Testament, while the old Arabic translations (1820 AD, 1831 AD, 1844 AD) used the Greek word (Paraclete) as it is, which is what many international translations do. In explaining the Greek word "Paraclete" we say: This word, which is of Greek origin, is not devoid of one of two states, the first is "Paracleteos", so according to the Christians it means: Comforter, Helper, and Agent. The second is "Pyrokletos", so it is close in meaning to: Muhammad and Ahmad.

    • @abdladigun6436
      @abdladigun6436 Месяц назад

      Hmmm why?

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@LionOf.Christ My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him alone

    • @JuergenBertram-ps7sy
      @JuergenBertram-ps7sy Месяц назад

      So, the truth about Islam can no longer be hidden or avoided !
      Islam, from the beginning to the end is the work of Muhammad=Allah (Satan the devil, and his demonic minions, and their human henchmen [zombies]) !

    • @Prft.MohammadSmith
      @Prft.MohammadSmith Месяц назад

      @@LionOf.Christ Nuh-uh. allah made the internet. Jabril told me so. Peace be upon me.

  • @olafliflaf
    @olafliflaf Месяц назад +15

    To acquire more knowledge of Islam watch Christian Prince.

  • @MarkPatmos
    @MarkPatmos Месяц назад +35

    I think Muhammed didn't strawman Christianity, he probably thought he was teaching things that were correct. He just never read New Testament or Gospels and trusted whatever he heard in region he lived as well as revelation from Allah. So I think Christians should definitely be allowed to question Muhammed's understanding of Christianity.

    • @dolphinitely_bro3944
      @dolphinitely_bro3944 Месяц назад

      I think hes a cult leader in reality, he plagiarized pseudopigrapha biblical texts, greek philosophy, and paganism

    • @bikesrcool_1958
      @bikesrcool_1958 Месяц назад

      Mark, Arabia had a heretic Christian cult that said Mary was part of the Trinity and that appears in Muslim books somewhere. Muhumamd was definitely taught some goofy heresy

    • @nicktronson2977
      @nicktronson2977 Месяц назад

      rome

    • @owenspence1904
      @owenspence1904 Месяц назад +10

      From what I have read of Muhammad's teachings, I don't think he was genuine. In fact, given the things he did and said, six hundred years after Jesus, I'm inclined to believe that his goal was to perpetuate the Islamic religion, while undermining Christians, in order to protect and preserve his dishonestly obtained, holy title

    • @danielanthony8373
      @danielanthony8373 Месяц назад +10

      His Revelations were from an Angel of Darkness and that Darkness still covers the Islamic world blinding Muslims from seeing the Light of Christ

  • @guillermodeleon3547
    @guillermodeleon3547 Месяц назад +9

    As a Maronite Catholic. God bless you, my friend in Christ. In Christ, every man is a word in the mouth of God so that all humanity becomes a song of love. St. Charbel Makhlouf ✝️

  • @Boxer924
    @Boxer924 Месяц назад +3

    Keep up the good work

  • @woodyharrelson2624
    @woodyharrelson2624 Месяц назад +17

    Christian prince is a top youtube channel about islamic silliness

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      The princess was exposed a long time ago, smh.

    • @olafliflaf
      @olafliflaf Месяц назад +5

      @@thistle_boy Muslim talk is cheap.

    • @englishtofrenchchristianap8314
      @englishtofrenchchristianap8314 Месяц назад

      ​@@thistle_boyyeah he was "exposed" when Muhammad was telling you to have relationships with prepubescent children.

    • @purplerain2205
      @purplerain2205 Месяц назад

      Christian Prince is horrible misinformed dude on islam

  • @titikkoma8586
    @titikkoma8586 Месяц назад +5

    Surah/ Chapter Al Maidah 64 Allah Swt Has 2 hands ( Biyadayy) / Chapter Al Qalam 42 Allah Swt has only 1 Shin/ Chapter Ar Rahman 26-27 Allah Has beautiful face and His face will be Forever and so on.. so Who Is Allah swt ??????🤭🤭🤭🤫🤗

    • @TENGRI-101
      @TENGRI-101 Месяц назад +4

      He's a martian like me 😁

    • @MetroMan13
      @MetroMan13 Месяц назад +2

      Al-Ilah is Mr.Potato Head.

    • @titikkoma8586
      @titikkoma8586 Месяц назад

      @@TENGRI-101 Allah has 2 hands both of them in the right side ..Hadith Sunan An Nasai no 5379.💪💪💪💪💪💪💪👊

  • @fnuros429
    @fnuros429 Месяц назад +2

    Why are we even speaking to a “scholar” who is afraid to speak the truth because he fears muslim retribution? This is a joke!

    • @pjoat
      @pjoat 15 дней назад

      Religion of Peace.

  • @WusWrongWitUs
    @WusWrongWitUs Месяц назад +3

    He said "islam is about the Quran"..but its not. Its about hadiths. The Quran says pray 3 times but the hadith says pray FIVE times.
    They CLAIM its about the Quran but if u ask the right questions youxll see they are full of it

  • @jamesgoodchild856
    @jamesgoodchild856 Месяц назад +30

    I’ve always found it weird that all the prophets of God were Jewish, and all of a sudden a new prophet comes along and he is an Arab. Israel is Gods chosen nation not Arabia.

    • @bariqsiddiqui9631
      @bariqsiddiqui9631 Месяц назад +3

      Adam crying in the Corner 😂😂😂😂

    • @maroanel-saui1672
      @maroanel-saui1672 Месяц назад +1

      Sooo many Prophets of God weren’t from the Children of Israel including Noah and Idris and Lot and Abraham and Isaac.

    • @inhumanhyena
      @inhumanhyena Месяц назад +1

      Noah was a prophet and so were Adam, Saleh and Idris. Though we believe God in all Hir mercy and grace, sent messengers to every people, many of whom were rejected and some of whom may have been identified differently though for instance Ahmadis consider even Sidartha Gautama and Krishna to have been Prophets or Messengers of God.

    • @bariqsiddiqui9631
      @bariqsiddiqui9631 Месяц назад +1

      @@maroanel-saui1672 But the lineage should be from Abraham for the Jews

    • @maroanel-saui1672
      @maroanel-saui1672 Месяц назад

      @@bariqsiddiqui9631 And Ismael is not a son of Abraham?

  • @alwaysright5901
    @alwaysright5901 Месяц назад +3

    Any claim that is presented without evidence is dismissed without evidence.

  • @NanaAdu-i3p
    @NanaAdu-i3p Месяц назад +4

    Allah told Muhammed to compare the message given to him with the torah and the bible in order to belive what has been revealed to him.

  • @bluewhistleschannel6058
    @bluewhistleschannel6058 Месяц назад +4

    Great video.

  • @DevinWardMusic
    @DevinWardMusic Месяц назад +2

    Cameron, you probably know of Dr. David Wood since he’s been around on RUclips doing apologetics with Islam for over a decade. I’m not sure how well your audience would accept him, but he is very knowledgeable in Islam, being great friends with the late Nabeel Qureshi. You might want to consider bringing him on talk about unique and self-defeating statements within the Quran, Hadith, Sunnahs, and Sahih even in despite of the doctrine of abrogation, according to Islam attempts to remedy the apparent contradictions.

  • @seannews
    @seannews Месяц назад +5

    I've never been so disappointed by a supposed "book of wisdom" in my life. Who orders a book from longest chapter to shortest? Who names the chapters after random animals? The god of the Quran is the most insecure and uncreative deity imaginable. It reads like Genesis and Proverbs if you put them into a blender and dumbed it down to a first grade level.

  • @WoizertheGreat
    @WoizertheGreat Месяц назад +1

    Jesus came “preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God” (Mark 1:14) and said that “for this purpose I have been sent” (Luke 4:43)

  • @kardew973
    @kardew973 Месяц назад +16

    Allah calls to die for him, but Christ calls to live for him !

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +2

      Eh, muslims are allowed taqqiyah, to lie about their beliefs and denounce allah, if they feel like they or islam are under attack.
      Christians are known for going to their 💀 for refusing to deny Christ.
      "Whosoever will deny Me before man, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven."

    • @RubyJeans943
      @RubyJeans943 Месяц назад

      I call that blood sacrifices. I think their allah is baal.

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      ‏For those who say that our master Muhammad is not a prophet. A good news from the Gospel of Matthew, in which Christ says: Verily, verily, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, this is Elijah who is to come. He who has ears to hear, let him hear. (Matthew 11/11-15). * Dr. Munther said: The least in the kingdom of heaven is Elijah who is to come, whom the prophets prophesied, one prophet after another, and the last of them was John the Baptist. So who is the least Elijah in the kingdom of heaven? He is Muhammad, the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, who was made smaller by his later time than the other prophets, but he surpassed them all by the completion of his message and God’s satisfaction with his religion as a final religion until the Day of Judgment. If it is not Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, then who is it? A Christian cannot claim that Jesus is the last of the messengers and prophets because of their belief in the message of his disciples and others like Paul, and his message was not completed, peace be upon him, as evidenced by the modification and abrogation that the disciples made to it in the first Jerusalem Council, claiming to make it easier for the converts, so they abolished circumcision, and permitted some of the prohibitions of the Torah... This lesser one will come in the kingdom of heaven, which had not yet been established at that time, and he is about to come and has not yet come, he is Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace. End quote.
      ‏* This good news also came in the Gospel of Luke: But what did you go out to see, a prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet, this is he of whom it is written: Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you. For I say to you, Among those born of women there is no prophet greater than John the Baptist, but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. (Luke 7/26).
      ‏Dr. Munther Bishara from the Gospel of John said: John is unique in his Gospel in mentioning these successive glad tidings from Christ about this awaited prophet, where Christ says, advising his disciples: If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, that he may abide with you forever, the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you... If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me does not keep my word, and the word you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. These things I have spoken to you, and I am with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you... Now I have told you before it comes, so that when it does come to pass you may believe, I will no longer talk much with you, for the prince of this world is coming, and he has nothing in me. (John 14/15 - 30). In the next chapter, Christ, peace be upon him, preaches to his disciples, asking them to keep his commandments, then he says: When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will testify about me, and you also will bear witness because you were with me from the beginning. I have spoken these things to you so that you will not be offended. They will put you out of the synagogues, and the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he is offering service to God... Sorrow has filled your hearts, but I tell you the truth: It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment. Of sin, because they do not believe in me; of righteousness, because I go to the Father and you see me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears, that will he speak. And he will declare to you things to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. (John 15/26 - 16/14) He said: In these texts, Christ, peace be upon him, speaks about the characteristics of the one who comes after him. So who is this one who is coming? Muslims believe that what was mentioned in John about the Comforter, the ruler of this coming world, is in fact a good news from Christ about our Prophet - may God bless him and grant him peace - and this is evident from a number of things, including that the word "Comforter" is a modern word that was replaced by new translations of the New Testament, while the old Arabic translations (1820 AD, 1831 AD, 1844 AD) used the Greek word (Paraclete) as it is, which is what many international translations do. In explaining the Greek word "Paraclete" we say: This word, which is of Greek origin, is not devoid of one of two states, the first is "Paracleteos", so according to the Christians it means: Comforter, Helper, and Agent. The second is "Pyrokletos", so it is close in meaning to: Muhammad and Ahmad.

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад

      @@Hana-g4r
      Yapistan

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад +1

      @@bigol9223 I didn't understand the word

  • @nielsmikkelsen7312
    @nielsmikkelsen7312 Месяц назад +2

    It is incorrect that the mainstream Sunni position is that the injeel was a physical book

  • @FemFantastic2.0
    @FemFantastic2.0 Месяц назад +4

    When I think of the mysterious ingeel I put it next to Joseph Smith’s golden tablets that disappeared.

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +4

      I have them both on my shelf.

    • @Christusvinci
      @Christusvinci Месяц назад +3

      ​@@bigol9223bruh 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @newcrossflightz
    @newcrossflightz 24 дня назад

    "Surah 7:157: "Those who follow the Messenger (Mohammed), the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Injeel (which are) with them.. “ (The verbs are all present tense in Arabic) it is still during the time of Muhammad the presence of the books of the Christians to follow😮

  • @I-Am-He
    @I-Am-He Месяц назад +3

    😂 It’s a shame that he can’t speak freely, you can tell he wants to… although it was funny watching beating around the bush. 😂 These Muslims got these scholars walking around on eggshells. 😂

  • @donaldmcronald8989
    @donaldmcronald8989 Месяц назад +1

    Looking forward to WLC and Mojab tomorrow. Did you see Khalil Andani's pre debate video?

  • @paulhallett1452
    @paulhallett1452 Месяц назад +3

    Converts from Islam are some of the greatest Christians - but cradle Christian scholars who only know the danger intellectually - we must out this false faith - worst case scenario we get to fertilize the Church!

  • @gueyenono
    @gueyenono Месяц назад

    I'm 35 mins in and the only thing that comes to mind is let's pray for this brother so he gives his life to JESUS. I have never seen someone respond to difficult questions about Islam with such honesty.

  • @mkdre1643
    @mkdre1643 Месяц назад +13

    Finally a reputable scholar actually giving a critical analysis of the Quran

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +2

      The Anti-Ehrman lol

    • @tionarry
      @tionarry Месяц назад

      Have you been living under a rock?

    • @ihsanseeker3802
      @ihsanseeker3802 Месяц назад

      It is important to note that a lot of academic scholars of The New Testament believe that Jesus never claimed to be God. Many believe that Jesus saw himself as a Prophet and Messiah. Thus, he must have thought and preached he was receiving at times revelation from heaven. That is obviously what The Quran is likewise take to be the Injeel. So the Quranic position is quite coherent and quite aligned with academic implications if not academic findings. For a more in depth response I wrote, please see above. Peace.

    • @bigol9223
      @bigol9223 Месяц назад +1

      @@ihsanseeker3802
      It is important to note that those scholars are wrong.
      Peace be with you.

    • @tionarry
      @tionarry Месяц назад

      @@ihsanseeker3802 it is likewise important to not that;
      1. The academical scholars you (didn't even mention any) referred to are atheist or non-Christians and would therefore be biased against what is recorded in the gospel.
      2. Atheist scholars like Bart D. Ehrman disagrees with you (see his debate with Michael Bird)
      3. Many other Scholars like Richard Bauckham, Peter J Williams, Michael Heiser, NT Wright, Craig Blomberg, Craig Evans, Gary Habermas, Michael Bird, James D.G. Dunn, Luuk van de Weghe, Dr William Lane Craig, Bart D Ehrman (in a debate), Sean McDowell, Paul Copan, Tim Chester, James K.A. Smith, J.P. Moreland, Michael Licona and so many many many more disagrees. So it's the consensus view among most Christian scholars and not the consensus view among all scholars. It's just the view among most non believing scholars.
      4. All these scholars (you didn't mention) agrees with the Christians scholars that JESUS was crucified and that his followers believed he's somehow alive again and they (some at least) went around preaching he's resurrected, something the Qur'an disagrees with (according to most Muslims)
      5. The earliest writings about a person is the most trustworthy and most especially if it has a wide range of support. The early church fathers from different locations all around the world from the first century all affirm that the disciples of JESUS believed in his deity and resurrection. Some scholars have to try to "read between the lines". While some take the earliest records about JESUS as the authors wanted them to be understood. Many people till today claim to be GOD as far back as we can go, so why not someone from a very religious community in Jerusalem? He could have been delusional, but still claimed to be GOD
      6. All scholars would also dismiss the idea that Muhammad was speaking with an angel (which would agree with the Biblical view of Islam).
      7. The Qur'anic view of JESUS is ambiguous and difficult to defend. A fact many scholars would agree with

  • @ashekaili1
    @ashekaili1 15 дней назад

    You have a group of people come together and decide what the bible is because of so many books floating around, rejecting so many books, and they decided what your bible today .. even that something you can agree fully

  • @osmanbah-rw8mh
    @osmanbah-rw8mh Месяц назад +3

    May Allah guide u guys
    Islam is better and makes complete sense more than any religion in the world

    • @Blessed-ch8gq
      @Blessed-ch8gq Месяц назад

      Yeah, Islam makes complete sense!!! The truth about Islam has been one of the world's best-kept secrets. For centuries, anyone who dare raise objections against Islam would place his/her life in danger. But things have changed. With the internet, it is now impossible for Muslims to keep the dark teachings of Islam a secret.
      1. Allah will wipe those who do not commit sin and replace them with people who sin and then ask for forgiveness -Sahih Muslim Book 37, Number 6622. Holiness and striving for high moral values are dangerous with Allah!
      2. Allah allows prostitution (mutah) -Surah 24:33
      3. Allah spreads hatred among people-surah 5:14
      4. You can have sex with a child who is even too young to menstruate, and then divorce her-surah 65:4😢😢😢
      5. Satan made parts of the Quran -Surah 22:52
      6. After cutting off the heads of unbelievers, Muslims must cut off their finger tips-surah 8:12
      7. Allah allows you to sleep with your own daughter, provided she's a product of adultery, and continue sleeping with her mother at the same time-Tafsir al-Qurtubi on surah 25:54. Contrast Leviticus 18:17.
      8. Allah revealed that an adult male should be breastfed 10 times a day by any woman he meets. Yeah, your wife can give her breasts to total strangers! Everyday!
      9. Allah has fixed the number of adultery a man MUST commit-sahih Muslim 2657b book 46 Hadith 32.
      10. If a husband divorces his wife irrevocably (3 talaqs), she shall not be lawful for him after that, until she marries and have intercourse with another man who in turn have to divorce her again. Allah's law requires that the woman must actually engage in sexual intercourse with the second man before she can return to her former husband. Surah 2:230 is one of the most unethical religious decrees ever to be issued. How unjust to an innocent wife! How injurious to her innocent children! How painful to a husband desirous of undoing an utterance in a brief moment of anger!
      No, thanks. Keep your "better" and "complete sense" religion.

  • @julietabraham476
    @julietabraham476 Месяц назад

    God bless you brother Bertuzzi for bringing on Dr Gabriel, whom I like listening to but somehow I feel he like most scholars in Academia seem so Restrained & Constrained whenever they have to express the sordid truth of islam.I comprehend they have a chair to safeguard at academia which is supported by Islamic Petrodollars and thats a big deal indeed!!! but very Sad 😮However TRUTH will always PREVAIL...Ameen.

  • @francissimpson3904
    @francissimpson3904 Месяц назад +3

    Christianity is not a book religion. It is a Way of life in union with Christ with Sacred Scripture, Tradition and teaching authority of the Church. Noone in the early Church walked around with a Bible because the canon of Scripture wasn't finalised until the 5th century.

    • @srinugrohoprahastono7701
      @srinugrohoprahastono7701 Месяц назад

      What i get from this paragraph is.
      "Christians doctrine can be changed because they have no anchor to hold it".😑

    • @David-kz2im
      @David-kz2im Месяц назад +3

      Yes, the Church was the first witness, even before the scriptures. This is why 1 Timothy 3:15 calls the “Church” (ἐκκλησία) the “pillar” (στῦλος) and “foundation” (ἑδραίωμα) of the truth 👍

    • @nataliezarco
      @nataliezarco Месяц назад

      Not true.
      The early church most certainly had the Scriptures and it was the basis of their faith.
      2 Timothy 3:14-17
      But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the HOLY SCRIPTURES, which are able to make you wise for salvation, through faith which is in Jesus Christ. All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

    • @francissimpson3904
      @francissimpson3904 Месяц назад

      @@srinugrohoprahastono7701 The anchor was the teaching and preserving office of the church I.e. the bishops and elders. For example the bishops representing the many local churches present at the councils of Hippo and Carthage who finalised the canon of scripture. Their decisions were then ratified by the pope.

    • @francissimpson3904
      @francissimpson3904 Месяц назад

      @@nataliezarco The scriptures referred to that Timothy knew are the Old Testament scriptures.

  • @bluebible1199
    @bluebible1199 Месяц назад +2

    it's weird how you can have all the Islamic books in the back of ur bookshelf and have an ENTIRELY different perspective based on what you're reading

  • @SamHollidayV
    @SamHollidayV Месяц назад +3

    He is very careful with his language regarding Islam, and Mohammed… probably prudent. Bart could learn a thing or two.

  • @Anonimni7
    @Anonimni7 Месяц назад +2

    Facts.

  • @murielpucoe9213
    @murielpucoe9213 Месяц назад +4

    Reynolds you can give a straight answer... thr gospel was written in greek because it was the language spoken by academia , economists , even jews spoke greek. So, be honest.

  • @Sophia1112-p1x
    @Sophia1112-p1x Месяц назад +28

    There is no coherent position in islam

  • @BossMan-fn5cl
    @BossMan-fn5cl 25 дней назад +2

    They are many glory holes in the Standard Narrative lol

  • @b.simmons1011
    @b.simmons1011 Месяц назад +4

    The like button doesn't work. Starting to notice this happens on channels & topics discussing Christianity vs Islam.

  • @gabrielaprofetaphillips1740
    @gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 Месяц назад +1

    We are the Ahl Al Injil… yet we don’t know what’s the Injil. Seriously ?

  • @francissimpson3904
    @francissimpson3904 Месяц назад +4

    Isn't it recorded somewhere that Mohammed set the Torah on a cushion and said that he believed in it and what it contained? Thus negating claims of corruption.

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      Amazing research on your part.

    • @proquow
      @proquow Месяц назад +4

      Sunan Abi Dawud 4449 (Grade: Hasan)

    • @francissimpson3904
      @francissimpson3904 Месяц назад

      @@proquow Thank you

  • @theignorantcatholic
    @theignorantcatholic Месяц назад

    Thanks bro. Amazing.

  • @Cesar82nd
    @Cesar82nd Месяц назад +6

    Mecca did not exist in the 6th century.

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      Amazing research you did, thank you.

    • @riplugo
      @riplugo Месяц назад

      Proof?

    • @Cesar82nd
      @Cesar82nd Месяц назад

      The proof is the lack of proof for its existence. All those big new buildings need deep foundations. What happens when you dig in ancient cities? You find ancient artifacts. NONE found in Mecca. Mecca is not found on a single map until the 9th century. The mother of all cities? The description in the Koran is nothing like Mecca, it's very much like Petra. ❤️

    • @i.hopeinJesus
      @i.hopeinJesus Месяц назад

      @@riplugoearliest record of Mecca is dated 741AD

    • @riplugo
      @riplugo Месяц назад

      @@i.hopeinJesus source?

  • @Stardust475
    @Stardust475 Месяц назад +1

    The doctrine of tahrif was promoted by Ibn Hazm in the 11th C.
    There are many mufassirun who refer to Paul/ Saul/Bulus as a righteous follower of Christ.
    This shows that the SIN took centuries to develop.

    • @omarisfet6337
      @omarisfet6337 18 дней назад

      What is SIN?

    • @Stardust475
      @Stardust475 18 дней назад

      @@omarisfet6337 Standard Islamic narrative
      Coined by Yasir Qadhi when he said ' the standard narrative has holes in it"

  • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
    @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Месяц назад +4

    When Jesus quoted Isaiah from the scroll, he was using the LXX. Jesus read and spoke Greek.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 Месяц назад +1

      The LXX contains the deuterocanonical books, accepted by Jesus but rejected by Protestants.

    • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
      @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Месяц назад +1

      @@fantasia55 Off topic, but Jesus never quoted from the deuterocanonical books. We don't know his thoughts on them.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 Месяц назад

      @bringemyoungpbuh4123 Jesus quoting from a biblical canon that has the deuterocanonical books means he accepted them as Scripture. Also, he celebrated Hannukah, which is from Maccabbes, a deuterocanonical book.

    • @collybever
      @collybever Месяц назад +1

      @@fantasia55 Protestants don't reject those extra books in an absolute sense, as one can see them in some protestant bibles. But the Jewish rabbis ultimately rejected them as non-canonical, and many had no Hebrew originals, but were in Greek only. (Some of the thinking is not quite right, e.g one of them is embarrassingly anti-women, an influence probably from Greek culture, of that time in Alexandria. So one can understand it not being rated quite so highly.)

    • @collybever
      @collybever Месяц назад

      @@fantasia55 If we rejected the OT apocrypha heartily, one would not see many gravestones with RIP on, or WW1 memorials citing from it, "their name lives forever more". "RIP" though is not entirely accurate after the New Testament revelation.

  • @yandex0102
    @yandex0102 Месяц назад

    He is avoiding controversial arguments.He knows there are holes in Islam but couldn't say.
    Evidence is not the problem It's the heart

  • @FlakoBarrios
    @FlakoBarrios Месяц назад +6

    God bless you brother

  • @Maria-bl8py
    @Maria-bl8py Месяц назад +1

    So if the Bible was corrupted before the time of Muhammad, why would Allah, who's supposed to be all knowing, confirm corrupted scriptures???🤔

  • @sonusancti
    @sonusancti Месяц назад +3

    Well, first of all, Imran or Amran was NOT the father of the Virgin Mary. Quran mistook her for the sister of Moses Mariam who came 500 yrs before!
    The father of our Blessed Mother is Joachim. Just one of many horrible mistakes of man made Quran.

    • @sasa_sasa_sasa230
      @sasa_sasa_sasa230 Месяц назад

      It's by the way Gnostic story generated from blending 2 Gnostic stories that was accepted by Siriac Christians and depicted in Catisma church in Siria. So from there muslims take it and put in quran

    • @sasa_sasa_sasa230
      @sasa_sasa_sasa230 Месяц назад

      Its in Shoemaker book

    • @sonusancti
      @sonusancti Месяц назад

      @@sasa_sasa_sasa230 That's another fairy tale.

    • @sasa_sasa_sasa230
      @sasa_sasa_sasa230 Месяц назад

      @@sonusancti nope, it's proven, yes it's fairly tale that quran copied

  • @Daawah_Warrior
    @Daawah_Warrior Месяц назад +1

    The Ark of the Covenant was never preserved by Yahweh. Does that make Christianity false then?

  • @christislord9351
    @christislord9351 Месяц назад +23

    Free Aisha 👧

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@christislord9351 My brother, if you want to know God, you must worship Him, the One, the Eternal Refuge... The Christians of old believed in monotheism and were followers of our master Jesus, peace be upon him. Despite these clear texts that favor monotheism, the Christians say a third, even though Jesus, peace be upon him, did not limit himself to it and did not call for it, but rather those who called for monotheism said so, considering that this belief is foreign to what Jesus, peace be upon him, brought and called for. The first to call for the Trinity and its doctrine was: Saul Paul, through his saying: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all... The Trinity is an innovation of a person and not of the Prophet Jesus, they were calling to God and not to worship himself... This channel distorts the Quran and Islam and the biography of our Master Muhammad and they do not know the truth... If you want to discuss something, search in reliable places... And if you want to ask me about something, tell me... Are you like if you invented an invention that no one else could invent like you and someone came and said about another person that this is a partner with him, so thank him and attribute the credit to him, would you be satisfied and you are the one who deserves that credit alone? And God is the highest example, God who created us and sent his prophets so that we may worship Him alone

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@christislord9351 At that age, the Arabs used to marry their daughters at that age because it was a normal thing because at that time, with the harsh environmental conditions in the desert, the girl was an adult at that time. Even the infidels of Quraish, who were the most hostile to our master Muhammad, did not say anything about the Prophet’s marriage to Lady Aisha because it was a common thing. Do not measure age by that time. The Prophet respected her and treated her kindly. Read about the biography from reliable places because this channel does not know anything about our master Muhammad and everything they say is lies. If you want to know God who created you, be determined in your intention and ask God to enlighten your insight into the true religion, and He, the Almighty, will help you in knowing His true religion.

    • @christislord9351
      @christislord9351 Месяц назад

      @@Hana-g4r what would a 54 year old prophet want from a 6 year old especially when he had 12 wives?? He was suppose to spread the message not the legs

    • @christislord9351
      @christislord9351 Месяц назад

      @@Hana-g4r by the way it’s from sahih Al bukhari. Your own sources

    • @Hana-g4r
      @Hana-g4r Месяц назад

      @@christislord9351 If you don’t believe what I say, search in history to see if it was normal for a girl to marry at the age of nine or not, and whether a girl at that age was physically and psychologically prepared or not. Search from reliable sources… The Prophet did not marry out of his own will. All of the Prophet’s wives were inspired by God to marry them. By the way, Lady Aisha did not have children for a reason, and the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, directed her to knowledge and learning to release part of her energy, so she became the most knowledgeable of women, and narrated 2,500 hadiths, and Aisha became the mother of all believers, teaching them and making them understand, and guiding everyone to learning. They said about her, “If a matter of Islam becomes difficult for us, we refer to Lady Aisha...

  • @valerieprice1745
    @valerieprice1745 Месяц назад +5

    The Injile is the book of the Gospels. The Torah and the Injile are what the Quran refers to. That's why the Muslims try to claim the Bible is corrupted, so they can abrogate the Quran's command for Muslims to read the Bible. The problem with this argument is that the Dead Sea Scrolls, and other manuscripts prove that the Biblical has remained stable over thousands of years.

    • @ryuzaki5491
      @ryuzaki5491 Месяц назад

      The Quran doesn't talk about the Bible bruh.

    • @valerieprice1745
      @valerieprice1745 Месяц назад

      @@ryuzaki5491 obviously, you've never read the Quran, or the hadiths. The Torah and Gospels are required reading for every Muslim, according to the Quran. The Torah is the Old Testament, the Jewish Bible. The Injile is the New Testament (the Gospels). Read the book. It's in there.

    • @ryuzaki5491
      @ryuzaki5491 Месяц назад

      @@valerieprice1745 Where is it there? Where does the Quran claim the Torah is the old testament and the Injil is the new testament? I'm really curious to see where you will produce those verses considering I have read the Quran from cover to cover at least 7 times in one month.

  • @unwesen6485
    @unwesen6485 Месяц назад

    "But even if we, or an ANGEL FROM HEAVEN ,
    preach any OTHER gospel to you than what we have preached to you,
    let him be ACCURSED." Galatians 1:6-9
    Doesn't it fit the islamic doctrine by 100%?

  • @kostaskladakis8938
    @kostaskladakis8938 Месяц назад +4

    This religion is about to burst like a huge balloon

    • @thistle_boy
      @thistle_boy Месяц назад

      Christianity already did that, into 45,000 denominations. Islam is already the largest and keeps growing. Interesting to see what God wills, huh?