Sony FX30 vs 8K Cinema Camera! Can you see the difference?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- In this video, Kraig compares the Sony FX30 vs the Sony Burano. Can you tell the difference?
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0:00 - Sony FX30 VS Burano
0:32 - Blind Tests
1:05 - Spec Overview
2:04 - Resolutions & Frame Rates
3:27 - Noise Performance
4:05 - Dynamic range
4:45 - Image Stabilization
5:20 - Lens Compatibility
6:27 - Practicality
8:36 - Blind Test Reveal!
9:10 - The Power of The FX30
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I think I’ll take 13 Sony FX30’s for the same price as the Burano!
FX30 is low-key a beast, only problems is iso and shutter angle
@@1panomotion847 Shutter angle coming in September
@@1panomotion847 The good news is it's getting a shutter angle update in September.
Right??
My thoughts Exactly, I Love my FX30 even over my more expensive full frame cameras! This camera was a gift from Sony at this price range.
FX30 owner here. The Burnano seems to have a much nicer highlight roll off, but to be honest, I prefer the skin tones on the FX30. They don't look as "pink/red."
Skin tones on Burano and FX3/30 footage can match exactly, so the “pink/red” has been created by them in some capacity. Whether it be not being able to create a consistent grade, or adding the same LUT to both and thinking it’s an equal comparison.
But like u can change that in any post production program anyways.
Been a long time viewer and even met Sean when I was working for Grant Cardone, love your guys content and you help a bunch of people. So please understand I say this with love. This video is great and Kraig seems awesome, where Im confused is it seems pretty clear Omar and Nolan are gone and there's no real explanation aside from a video Nolan made from his channel. You guys featured them SO much that not even a mention that you've kind of changed staff to shake things up or really just any statement is looks really weird. Sometimes bad things happen and the impulse is to just not say anything (not saying this is the case) but just some kind of acknowledgment that they are gone in the community page would be really kind as they are still featured heavily even on the home page. Saying this as I run my own media company aside from my filmmaking career and youtube channels. When someone prominent leaves (even if it's a weird situation) we always at least acknowledge it and thank them for their service.
The loupe and grip placement at 1:49 and 2:28 are wild. Tell me you've never used a cinema or ENG camera, without telling me....Reminds me of someone flying FPV for the first time. I'd also be really curious to see the grades on the A and B footage. Probably just dropped a LUT and naively thought "it's all Slog3 anyway". No mention of XOCN seems like a pretty blatant omission as well, or another example of lack of understanding the use case for the Burano. At the end of the day, the comparison is within the context of using either camera for RUclipsrs. In that same vein, your next video might as well compare the storage space of the Toyota RAV4 and a Porsche 911. Well done boys!
These guys are youtubers. What do you expect? I hope they compare elephants to purple next.
@@_FrontFootFilms_ I guess I expected the people at Think Media to put some actual thought into their video. I didn't even mention the wildest thing he said, which is not recommending the Burano, FX9 or Venice to small production company. The FX9 is literally THE STAPLE for small production companies. But bro, the elephants and purple comparison.....I'm so down, I've already got my safari hat on and paint brush in hand.
@@vhauser416 it is wild to not even mention the FX6 for goodness sake! That's such an affordable camera itself
The Sony FX30 is great because it comes so close to the Burano’s specs but at a more aproachable price! Thanks for the comparison video! 🎉
For making videos, would it be a good idea to just use my a6400 or my iPhone 15 Pro Max. I have a MacBook and separate audio equipment.
What lens did you use with the caneras again?
I want to know how the latest firmware Sony A1 8K mirrorless compares to the 8K video of the Burano and Venice 2. Perhaps they’re not so far apart especially when recording in RAW?
That would be a really interesting test!
Will consider this model. Thank you so much!
lol I thought the videos by the FX30 looked better
Same
You reckon ?
FX30 has sharpening, you have to add sharpening in post with the other…
Get your eyes checked. More color data and dynamic range with the Burano.
@@contentm3893 hard to know the depth of color data without the raw file, up to the Colour Grader
Great choice with a Kraig vid! I hope you guys keep having him on.
Great to hear!!
The FX30 sounds like a great camera to work with young people. Thanks for sharing!
Great option for beginners and pros alike!
Wow. I actually thought the FX30 was the better image when looking at the A/B comparison. I feel better about owning an FX30 already!! Although, there will obviously be situations where the Burano will provide more flexibility in post. But, it's nice to see a camera I already have compares quite nicely,. Cheers.
You reckon ?
The FX30 is more contrasty than the Burano and the Burano produces better skin tones and overall image. The difference in quality isn’t significantly greater to justify the 10x price difference tho. Did you mention the color sampling of each camera?
In terms of redundancy and on-board features, you can see why the Burano costs what it does. After being on hue productions, I can tell you instantly why nobody takes the fx30 toys for large production. Maybe Indie movies at best.
Had he shot in X-ONC LT on the Burano you would have seen a massive difference.
5:20 - What''s the problem to put PL or EF adapter to FX-30?
100% you can use any PL lens on FX-30.
Just speaking to what is native to the camera. Any time you use adapters there are trade offs 👍
@kraigpruett Are you sure, you mean that? 😅
Quote: "FX-30 just limited on E-mount lenses..." 😏
P.S. Any PL lens without electronic contacts will be native with adapter. Physically and mechanically.
Well, if you're not going to use Burano 8k image, and Burano X-OCN codec for the 16bit images, than yes, any other little Sony camera will have similar looks. And if you're not even going to use the X-OCN codec, you could save some 20k dollars by going with the FX6 which also have the eVND.
To be honest, I preferred many of the FX30 images over the Burano images.
Agree
I wish you'd have said which one is A or B after 1:05?
We revisit this test at the end of the video...
@@ThinkMediaTV The problem is my memory would've mix the 2 up by the end of the video. So, I'd had to repeat.
I've got the FX30 and it's a great camera. However, the comparison between the FX30 and Burano seems odd since they are two different cameras designed for two different workflows and totally different needs. Working a crewed documentary or feature narrative with a Camera Department and crew? The Burano is geared for that.
I was leaning slightly towards B, but to be honest, I wanted the camera that sits right in-between both! There were aspects of both that I liked.
Totally fair!
I LOVE my FX30. It's light, powerful, and affordable. Also gimbal friendly.
Why didn't you shoot in X-ONC LT on the Burano? You would have seen a massive difference.
Is it just my old eyes but I thought the FX30 video clips looked WAY better. To be honest though... I really need to take a class about photography and video. I bought an okay camera but it's ME that's the problem. I don't know all the features or what they mean. Some of the things you said in this video... you could have been speaking Chinese and I'd better understand. I have a lot to learn!
You have old eyes then.
@@contentm3893 I see you've gone on to take the time to disagree with others here. Kinda odd to assert your opinion so many times but it's okay to have a difference of opinion and many others share my same thoughts.
@@WorldwideDarts What does me making comments to other people have to do with your comment? Your old eyes should be able to tell the difference because it's visual. It's what we do. And the WAY Better comments is based on the image looking video-ish?
Yep, I spotted the FX30 right away. I’ll take that any day anytime over almost anything. Is just a no brainer.
I think 13 Sony FX30's Because I like its Features And It Has The Same Price Range.
Operators of cinema camera's don't always use them for their 'look' but for the ability to use the I/O they offer as well as better software features like shutter angle.
I really think I will get the FX30. I always wanted full frame and to be able to have higher than 4K for future proofing. BUT FX30 seems so close to the more expensive Sony cameras. It's lean and mean. I like it.
Hey just to clarify - the FX30 is not full frame. If you want Full Frame, you need to get the FX3.
i gotta be honest and I don't care what anybody say... The FX30 obliterated that overly expensive burano completely away in both price AND quality. Watch this vid I don't feel nowhere bad about owning my Sony A7Rii and soon a A7Riii. Both shares the same sensor but given the R's are slightly less stops, you wouldn't see that much of a difference and for a scab of a price vs that buckshot of a price Burano. Awesome vid man thank you. I like the FX30 all day long!
I'll stick with the FX6. Capture HD at full frame. No crop. FX3 as a B cam to match the full frame look. Rent a FX9 if you need higher resolution. I've used this setup for several years now and it's perfect. I do like the FX30 though. And I don't see a place for the Burano. Can't figure out what Sony was thinking.
Great.
I think the A7IV in slog3 compares more favorably
in 2024 it just depends what your final delivery is, if its social media, youtube, ect any camera that has log profile, good dynamic range and 422 video can look professional and "cinema like".
Cameras like the Burano, the fx6, RED's, Alexxa, are for proyects that you know from the start are going to be heading towards film festivals, short films, big artist music videos that later might or not be going to an awards winning show.
What im trying to say is that "the average joe" doesnt tell apart a $1800 camera and a $25k camera, and their not supposed to
Fx 30 base iso is 2500. to low. a7s3 12800 (referring to 4:01) . much better to just get that. maybe have video with Burano and s3 but since the fx30 is damn near the same for half cost no point. good video regardless.
Here watching
I did love this video, but gotta say that the part about lenses just didn't make any sense at all. I use an E-mount A7S3 as B-camera and that has a literary $40 adapter to PL to use my cine lenses. Saying that the FX30 is limited to only Sony or third party lenses just don't make any sense as comparison.
Just speaking as to what is native to the camera. You can of course adapt all sorts of lenses, but you lose certain functions when you do so. Thanks for the comment 🙌
I run the FX30 along with the A7SIII, A7IV and Nikon Z8. Out of the Sony cameras, I like the IQ of the A7IV the best, but it doesn't stay on, lol. The FX30 actually is so close it's not really a contest though if there's ample light. Now lets say I shoot with the Z8 at any resolution/codec. It's as if it comes from a different world in which cameras have a super natural look and it's easily discernable from the Sony footage because it's already beatiful with just a log transform and no grading. The Z8 only stays recording with pricey memory cards, so it doesn't get too much action unfortunately. The Sony's all look alike, which is good for matching.
BURANO’s a beast
Very cool camera!
good topic, shows the scale of sony cameras involved 8K (4320 x 7680) informative content
I can see the difference watching this in 480p on my smartphone.
Gotta be honest, for the price i'm not impressed with the image of the Burano. It's cool that it has AF and IBIS but i think at that price range productions probably prefer image quality over those more consumer friendly features. It's no coincidence feature cinema cameras don't have IBIS and AF when control is everything. I think the new BM URSA Cine is much better in this regard and is actually slightly cheaper despite omitting AF, IBIS.
I seriously doubt the Burano has 16 stops of dynamic range when you'd normally have to get an Alexa 35. CineD tested the Burano DR and it's more like 14 stops not the huge 16 they advertised.
To me it was obvious that camera a was the burano. The image does look much much better than the fx30 . After all you get what you pay for
Most shooters will be perfectly happy with the FX30. Though I’d imagine everyone who owns a Burano would have an FX30 on the side. 😅
So why compare an 8K full frame cinema camera against an aps-c camera? Makes no sense. Look i own the fx30 and i love it but why does this video exist?
Honestly I think the point of these videos is for people who don’t know or what to know what the point of 25k cameras are. Within the first 7 minutes you know that they have the same color science and recording in less that 8k or 6k basically brings you down to fx30 sensor size, and that they have similar dual base ISO. Yeah these are things you could read on a comparison chart but hey most camera reviews could just as well be read.
For the price. Ill take 2 FX30’s and 20k worth of Cine lenses and accessories.
smart!
(B) Burano? I know Sony shooters that left Canon complained about NO Clog2 across all cameras. People had a hard time matching the images from C2 to C3. This is another video that shows a difference in look/color from a Sony to Sony. I saw a video of an experienced shooter trying to match FX9 to Burano. Not an easy task. I see plenty of Burano disappointment.
Damn! For me I thought camera B was the clear “winner” and therefore must be the Burano…. Shook!
You can't compare the two cameras in the way you do it now. You pay that 25k for an 8k camera on a full frame sensor and a whole lot of other options. This is like comparing a multimillion-dollar Formula 1 car against a Fiat Panda. If you test it only at a constant speed of 50 km/h in a straight line. What is the point that you are trying to make? I would be surprised if anybody would be in doubt what camera to buy, a Burano or a FX-30.
Yup, not real world text and no way to see how far each camera will handle extreme real world content. If he tried to pull a deep image out of the FX30 it would fall apart.
These comparisons are kind of silly when you don't take into account lenses and lighting
Cameras don't matter .. composition and lighting matter...cameras have all reached peak quality
Blah blah blah. Don't beat that dead horse. People need to know what image a camera can produce. But you keep rocking with a Lumix and say the camera doesn't matter. Cameras do matter. Agency's and others can see the difference. And no one is saying don't produce a good story or lighting, etc. It's not like someone is saying they have to shoot with a cine camera and not do a good job.
@contentm3893 I own a Sony Venice 1 and an fx6... Not a Lumix
@@contentm3893 oh and btw if anyone CAN NOT tell the difference between cameras its the agencies
@@dp_zeedon’t feed the troll brother
@@dp_zee Haha. But they do know camera brands and models. Your take is just old and overused. Someone has to fight for the better image from the better camera. Lol.
"How will it be viewed?" That question should be asked before adjusting settings for any video, or for buying a camera. I have zero means of watching anything over 1080p.
FX30, to my eye, has better clarity and skin tones
You have managed to make a 25K camera look like a 2K camera, this is another example that it doesn't matter what camera you have if you don't know how to work with it.
Definitely the Sony FX30
Bro I don't have 500.00 to spend on a camera let alone 1300.00 or 25000.00
Canon M50
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Yes you can 😂
One dislike for mean tactic of dragging viewers in suspense.
I could see the difference in the bank account
same... 😅
That’s it I’m buying another fx30 😂
Burano is way clearer in my opinion
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The burano is quite underwhelming, it would be a hard purchase to make at any price
In 2024 there is no reason to buy a camera for over 10.000 €.
Sony FX30 or FX3 and the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4K and 6K will work for 99% of needs.
The 1% are there for Blockbuster Movies and expensive commercials, there you should better use an ARRI or a RED
And the FX3???????????????????????
Sony bout to drop Burano by about tree fiddy to 10k
As an owner of the fx9, fx3 and fx30 i think your conclusion is completely wrong. In order to get the fx3/30 anywjere near the usability and convenience of the fx9 you have to apend a lot of money. Amd you wont get the same image quality as the FX9. If all you do is run and gun youtube content then sure the fx3/30 is a better choice but if you start doing anything else the the fx6/9 is a much more solid option.
Also the fx30's 1080p is absolute hot garbage.
fx30 looked better
This is a lame comparison, FX 30 does not hold any weight against Burano..... I have extensive testing with both cameras.
Man, i can hear so many "SSSSSSSSSS" i hurts my ears :(
I looked at it in rewind and realized that the author absolutely does not know why 8K is needed. You'll have to explain it to me.
Human visual acuity is about 60 pixels per degree.
So, 8K is needed to increase the field of view, and this is needed to enhance the effect of presence, because we look at the world with a field of view of about 180°. 7640 (8K) pixels horizontally, divided by visual acuity of 60 pixels per degree and we get a field of view that provides 8K at 128° degrees.
Yes, 128 is not 180 as we see the world, but it’s already enough to get a powerful effect of presence.
However, even these 128° are very difficult to achieve, you need to have a large screen and be close to it - a 75" screen is about a meter away from it. Therefore, few people can really see 8K and its advantages.
The author should delete the channel.
We shoot in resolutions higher than necessary for purposes of vision in order to be able to reframe or crop as needed in post. Some cameras need 8k just to have enough resolution for stereoscopic VR lenes, ect.
@@emilhach6264,
I don’t care what you mean by 8K.
But I wrote you the ONLY correct purpose, and the fact that you are repairing the engine through the muffler is solely your problem
@@bzdishekzapadlovsky 8k is the resolution you seem to care about. Obviously, you don't shoot video. We aren't delivering in 8k. Mostly we deliver for 1080p and 4k. There are 12K and higer cameras for video, but no one delivers in 12k,ect. If you are meaning to comment on the delivery resolution, then you are simply commenting on the wrong video. This is about image quality between cameras, not resolution vs. human eyesight.
@@emilhach6264 ,
I think I made it clear to you that I am not interested in knowing that you are repairing the engine through the exhaust pipe.
There is ONLY ONE purpose of 8K video - to provide a large field of view for a more immersive effect in the atmosphere of what is being displayed. The rest is PERVERTION!
Yeah, all Sony cameras have the same unnatural digital image, and that's why it doesn't matter if they come up with a 16k $150k camera, even Canon C70 will always have better image than that. Sony is a technology company, they always prioritize specs over what's important in a camera, feels like they will never understand they are doing it wrong. But the fact that most buyers are noobs is not helping, they are selling their cameras anyways, most people are just buying spec sheets.
"use cases" "price points" You could be less cringe and just say "uses" and "prices"
Just means Burano is really bad.
what a meaningless comparison. He knows that comparing a cheap camera against a $$$ one will get views. What next? McLaren vs Honda CIvic?
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