Was the 2002 FIFA World Cup Fixed?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- It has often been speculated particularly within the Italian press that there was foul play involved with their elimination from the 2002 FIFA World Cup at the hands of the co-hosts South Korea.
Weighing up a very disreputable referee against the typical home overachievement that we are used to seeing at major international football tournaments, in another mini-documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look back at South Korea's success at the 2002 World Cup and evaluates the evidence in both directions.
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Can't wait till Qatar beat France 11-0 in the next World Cup final
@Kuromori Explain, please.
@Kuromori Great Analysis, I agree 100%. Round of 16 then out for France.
You will be missed
Crazy Person aged like milk
@@jeffcatgreeb7262 >:(
I was 13 yo at the time of the finals
I remember the media here in brazil joked that South Korea played with 4-3-3-3 formation, with the addition of the 3 referees.
LOL
Savage
It was true.
@김두영 hahahaha
@김두영 Lmao you're the one that's crying.
@김두영 Nope, Koreans should be ashamed and all other footballing nations look down on South Korea for their match fixing.
The history of the referee was hilarious - definitely suspect
Word! He was involved with drug smuggling or something?
@@AFCAglory The investigation should have been whether he was smuggling drugs in 2002. As then he would be susceptible to persuasion
A team was winning 1 - 0 and he played 20 extra minutes so the other team won 2 - 1.
Edit he mentioned it later in the video
@@archstanton6102 i think that's wrong news
Bryon Moreno normall when world cup 2002
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
That story from back in Ecuador is truth. He called for 6 extra minutes and played 13 extra. All after red carding two players from the other team. So liga de Quito could make a 4-3 come back. That game was very significant since both teams were playing for first place.
Then he got caught in the US smuggling drugs.
Stories say that he's a persona non grata in Italy. After almost 20 years
2022: Qatar reaches quarterfinals
2026: Canada reaches Round of 16, USA reaches semis, and Mexico breaks Round of 16 curse and goes to the Quarter Finals
Imagine the US gaining from corruption, y'know, the country whose people love calling out everyone BUT themselves for corruption
@@reintaler6355 You obviously don't live in America
@@LewAka I do. Just not the "America" that you think it represents
I believe you are coming from the future, lemme just grab a pen... *then nervously going to the closest betting station*.
Future me: Thank you for making me rich, good sir!
Maybe the first 2, but Mexico’s never breaking that curse.
"All sports are fixed, it's just that pro wrestlers are the worst actors." - can't remember who said it found it quite funny.
Are you seriously? Next you'll be saying the world is flat!
Just pathetic and sad.
@@jameshuggett im guessing you didn't actually read my comment. I said i can't remember who said it but I found it funny. I never said I agreed. Get to specsavers son.
@@rashidbinzamanshaan5841 maybe, it seems a lot of crazy bastards are getting triggered by a bit of humour though.
@@lordfawkesvonproudhon9656 haha, slow down. You seems soooooo full of yourself, cute. You remind me of one of my sons... x
Byron Moreno was not given a heroe's welcome, Ecuador despites him because of the horrible performances on the 2002 World cup. As a matter of fact, the ecuadorian football culture still hates him. He left a bad reputation for ecuadorian referees. And, as of this moment, Conmebol (the intitution of football in latinamerica) still prefers other nations to represent them in official tournaments. We are trying to erase him from our footballing history, but we will not able to.
Andrew Lopez Not to mention the fact that he was caught smuggling drugs
@Kuromori not only equalize, make a come back. He also sent off two players from the other team under dubious circumstances
Thank you for pointing this out for us. It seems as if the creator of this video needs to do research before tackling lofty subject matters like this.
In name of may Italians, we thank you.
good
Can you make a video on how Kaiserslautern won the Bundesliga as a newly promoted club 1997/98 and how they fell apart. Coz they're now in the third division of German football.
What a great team it was, although I think Karlsruhe was a good team as well.
Didn't Ballack start his career for them
Perry The Platypus and they hosted wc matches
@@doomerang3133 He played for them, but he started his career with Chemnitzer FC
So they went back to the league they started their march to promotions from
Jesus, how is 9:10 Joaquin still casually captaining for Real Betis almost two decades later
He just 20’s in 2002, and now at 39 he still playing
Too op
Goes to show how little professional footballers look after themselves. Maldini, Donato, Giggs, Joaquín, Cristiano, show that professional footballers could play regularly at the top flight into their late 30s injuries permitting.
@Boyd most of the players mentioned played in seria A, where the pace of the game is kinder to older players
@@ayenazz3116 Claudio Pizzaro from the Bundesliga would have been a great mention but well he retired in 2020.
Phillip Lahm's Final Starting XI - Where are they now?
1:00 thats you
Owen Uldal yes, yes it is
Probably in lockdown mate
Dessienewshoes you're very funny
Tom Starke - retired
Philipp Lahm - retired
Jerome Boateng - Bayern
David Alaba - Bayern
Juan Bernat - PSG
Xabi Alonso - retired
Arturo Vidal - Barcelona
Arjen Robben - retired
Thomas Müller - Bayern
Kingsley Coman - Bayern
Robert Lewandowski - Bayern
One minor correction: With proper officiating, Italy would have won, not drawn. The disallowed valid goal was a golden goal under the rules at the time, meaning KOR's 2nd goal never happens.
Not true. Also watch - Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
@@pkim5992 not true "watch highly recommended bullshit from the federation of bullshiters"
where it's OK for refs to Rob people at gun point and try smuggling drugs. You should watch it and sign up.
@@MikeDchy25 no it was NOT fixed, italy and spain got their ass kicked fair
@@yonggeun4222 did you watch the video
@@korda2135 yes, italy WAS offside, stop cheating by saying he wasnt offside
I was 13 at the time, we were even allowed to watch some of the big games in school. Good times.
I'm Irish & in my opinion the Ireland v Spain last 16 game was also fixed but Ireland was too incompetent to win.
In that game Ireland was awarded 2 penalties. We scored the 2nd to take the game to ET.
Spain also had 3 or 4 goals disallowed in 90mins. IIRC the 1st goal was disallowed goal was offside. The 2nd goal disallowed for offside was not offside. I think there was a 3rd goal disallowed for offside that was not offside.
At the start of the 2nd half another Spainish goal was dissllowed. Even the Irish tv commentary team couldn't understand why that goal was disallowed.
I think FIFA wanted Ireland to progress to play S. Korea as they would need less help v Ireland than they needed against Spain.
I was watching that game in a bar in killkenny.
That was the best looking referee was handsome
Idea: top 7 years that produced the best players
1.Benfica win
Haha that's a nice one actually. I often think of 1972 (Nedved, Figo, Zidane, Rui Costa, Thuram), 1976 (Totti, Recoba, Camoranesi, Kluivert, Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy, Morientes, Gilberto Silva, Frings, Ballack, Kanu, Vieira, Giuly, Nesta, Edmilson), 1984 (Robben, Sneijder, Iniesta, Mascherano, Handanovic, Torres, Schweinsteiger, Tevez, Chiellini), 1987 (Messi, Suarez, Cavani, Vidal, Benzema, Bonucci, Nasri, Higuain, Khedira) and 1988 (Boateng, Aguero, di Maria, Hummels, Marcelo) as some of the most impressive generations.
The Spain match was the bigger robbery of the two, and possibly one of the biggest in WC history. Those disallowed goals have been proven to have been incorrectly disallowed. But Spain would have lost the semis, but still
i disagree, the german side was mediocre, carried by khan and ballack. they beat south korea 1-0, usa 1-0, hell paraguay 1-0. spains side had raul, fernando hierro, iker casillas, and charles puyol, so you’re incorrect
@@alexsayshi6782 you KNOW I am wrong. Factually.
@@alexsayshi6782 nah they might’ve lost that’s just usually how games went and scored back then look at the final it took r9 almost the whole game to put away 2 goals and he was arguably the best player in the world at the time with the best team surrounding him
You’re both right, I think. Germany is Germany, always a tough team to beat, but they were definitely a team greater than the sum of their parts, and it showed against Brazil. Meanwhile, Spain always seemed to be the opposite in the pre-2010 era, a team with so many talented players that always seemed to underperform at the critical moment. It’s hard to say who would win but I think Spain would have a chance, just by reaching the semis, they would have a massive confidence boost, doing something no Spanish side had ever done before.
All you need is a pair of eyes to see how ridiculous both those games were. The Italians spent the whole of the game getting the crap kicked out of them and SK barely got a slap wrist but Italy were being punished for retaliation.
Spain wasn't as brutal but they just got goal after goal denied and one offside decision was a gg opportunity. I couldn't believe what was going on in this joke of a word cup. Spain and Italy had the ability to go all the way and Italy were hounded by the refs for the whole tournament.
By the sound of your voice I would have imagined you being way older than me and we’re the same age it appears.
Take a look at his Q&A's. Dude sounds like a 40 year old CEO of a huge company but looks like a surfer/stoner
His balls have dropped that's why 😂😂
@@lovefan7694 no he doesn't looool
Italy was in great shape, we (México) barely managed to tie with them thanks to a formidable header by Borgetti, only to later lose to the US. I remember our school switched the entrance time so we could watch the games, I got up in the wee hours to watch the games. Good times
Mexico actually played very well in that WC. The wingers Arellano and Morales were on fire, they tormented Italy's defence. I was disgusted to see them lose against the USA, it was like they just didn't turn up for that game.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yeeeeeeesssssssssss
Seriously , you dont know if it was just human error? You obviously haven't seen much football. The Italy and spain matches were so sad to watch, I didnt see another match for years. The biggest football scandal I have ever seen
short answer: yes
Well yes but actually (I don't k) no (w)
@@jamiegrimes6681 s(he) be(lie)ve(d)
@@Realfan14 s(he's) (in) S(pain)
@@Realfan14 Sbeve 😂
longer answer:
YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Every World Cup since 1998 has been a bit suspect. The corruption with FIFA became much more obvious from the bidding stages all the way through.
Suspect? OK. But watch the following also. Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Just think, Italy and Spain were done dirty here... who won the next twocworld Cups 👀.
Also, conspiracy theories say Brazil were fixed to win the 2002 world cup due to 98 drama with Ronaldo and forcing him to play
@@Munchman1 nah Brazillian are in their prime, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos except the GK
That Italy squad was phenomenal. I remember feeling they would win it before the tournament.
@김두영 ok mate
They should have beaten South Korea, I remember watching the game and it was a pen on Totti and if Italy had gone through that's when they go into a different gear into these sorts of tournaments. I know home nations get a few decisions but South Korea got so many it was pretty obvious they were being pushed to keep the atmosphere going on home soil to promote the game in Asia. That's the problem with people who were either not born or were too young to remember, they don't see what others saw it was about an investment in the game to grow it so FIFA could develop these continents and create more wealth.
@김두영 you're thrash
@김두영 having four titles isn't the sign of being over-rated (even if one, 1934, was controversial)
@@NLT31 Not the way I saw it. Italy struggled to get out of the group only winning their opening game. Italy couldn't cope with South Korea's pressing and like a lot of Italian national teams when it's not going their way they started diving, whining and playing with the air of victimization. Although the team looked good on paper only it's defence was effective. Totti and Del Piero were too similar so Del Piero was pushed forward where he was ineffective the midfield had zero creativity leaving it all to Totti and the Koreans knew that and acted accordingly.
Look at this line up:
www.transfermarkt.com/south-korea_italy/index/spielbericht/987570
Only Totti, Del Piero and Vieri are attacking players. Two defensive midfielders and everyone else is a defender by trade, They got everything they deserved in that game. And but for Materazzi getting Zidane sent off they wouldn't have won the competition 4 year later either.
That was the first World Cup I've watched in full. I was a baby in 1994 and I wasn't yet into football in 1998. My mother is Brazilian, so naturally I supported Brazil. I have fond memories of that World Cup:)
I didn't know Alfie was just six in 2002.
My first WC was 98. But as a German, and being a little older, 02 was the one that really stuck to me. Brazil really deserved it, with this legendary team: Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Cafú, Rivaldo and even young Kaká, just to name a few. The final although was close and with Ballack not being banned and Kahn _(still the winner of the Golden Ball/best player)_ without his slips, if, if , if...
Along 06 there was probably no WC I followed that close. Even though of the weird kick-on time's. Our game against Paraguay, for example, started at 8:00 AM, if I remember correctly.
It also made the foundation of our WC successes. 02=2nd, 06=3rd, 10=3rd and finally the title in 2014! 2018 came as a little shock to me _(remember the Confederation Cup and the European Under-21 Championship one year before)_ but I can live with it because in 2014 I could finally experience the great feeling of being the champions of the world!
I also just missed one of Klose's 16 WC goals, against Cameroon _(don't know why)._
Aaahhhh, I just love the World Cup!
@@yannick245 I'm pretty sure Rivaldo faked an injury to get a Turkish player sent off in 2002. That's my memory of that Brazil team, amazing against England, cheated against Turkey!
@@ConnbineHarvester he fake it but the player from Turkey still wrong
Its ugly but still a red, you cant kick a ball at another player when play is stopped, no mather where it hits @@ConnbineHarvester
Italy vs Spain would've been a good game man ffs and the winner vs Germany
And probably Italy would've make it
@@frafrafrafrafra Alike
I didn't know 442oons characters watched HITC Sevens
Ole Gollum Solskjaer you mean brazil vs spain or brazil vs italy, that should have been the real final
@@honestpenaldo yh maybe
Annoyed Irish fan here, if it wasn’t for the shocking conditions the Irish had during this World Cup we would have definitely got past the round of 16 stage with the captain Roy Keane still being there
Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Quick correction: Japan actually qualified for the 1998 World Cup.
ssvoogel they got selected as hosts before the 1998 World Cup.
@Rayan Rizwan 31st May 1996 was when the 2002 hosts were selected.
@Rayan Rizwan Actually they werw selected in 1996.
Japan became football powerhouse in Asia after mid 80s
After mid 80s? Powerhouse?
They were consistently losing to their neighbour South Korea until the 2010s.
13:03 And people still argues against VAR. There can be no honest argument against VAR.
Except that referees should be part of the VAR system and not just be affiliates of it's actual members
7 dodgy decisions made by referees at World Cups.
Mexico vs Netherlands
all of them are going to be from 2002
Frank Lampard's goal against Germany and Nigel De Jong's karate kick, both in 2010
Five of them from 2002
The English referee who gave 3 yellow cards to same Croatian player
Can you make a vid on the 1982 World Cup match Austria vs West Germany and the match fixing complaints the Algerians and pretty much anyone gave lol
That was a completely dick move
just walking around the middle of the park. Scandalous
Argentina had to beat Peru 6-0 in 1978 and it happened. 62 & 66 & 78 & 98 & 2002 WC's were fixed to help the hosts. Plus individual game like Battle of Santiago in 62 & HAND OF GOD in 86 etc
@@antoniosilvestro2494 The 98 WC was fixed for France? You must be kidding. Zidane got a red card (deservedly) against Saudi Arabia and missed the next two games... Blanc got a ludicrous red card against Croatia and missed the final... and in the final, Dessailly got red-carded too. Penalties for France? Zero. The refs definitely didn't make it easy for France to win.
That match wasn't fixed as such it was just an obvious agreement between the two teams, and it was disgusting, 80 minutes of nothing. After that most matches had to be played simultaneously especially the final deciding group matches.
idea: 7 players who won topscorers in their league even though their club was relegated (like igor protti in serie a 1995/96 or quini 1975/76 in la liga)
Brilliant presentation. I love the way how your views are well balanced and unbiased.
Man, 2002 was just the year for awful officiating, wasn’t it?
That was also the year of the tuck rule game in the NFL and the infamous 2002 WCF in the NBA.
I had tickets to all the England games but it clashed with my final university final exams.
I chose not to go, got a 1st but still think I should have gone.
Which tournament? I assume 2002
@@jamiegrimes6681 Sorry, yes 2002. Went to all England games in 06, 10 and 14 though.
Nik Turk how bout 2018?
@@trollpotatoe After the Roy Hodgson farce of 2016, I gave up on England. Has beenn watching them home and away so he 1998. So had enough - great timing!
Nik Turk ahhh i see.. are you gonna give it a second chance now that gareth southgate is at the helm?
I am an Italy fan and the manner of the elimination left me incredibly embittered. A few days later I was even more incensed when yet again the referee sided with South Korea against Spain. As soon as the referees stopped doing their "job", South Korea were easily set aside by Germany and Turkey.
That said, it is unhelpful to focus solely on South Korea/Italy/Spain. The whole tournament was riddled with ridiculous officiating mistakes, below just some which I can recall.
-Turkey v/s Brazil: Rivaldo's drama to get opponents sent off.
-Argentina v/s England: Owen dives for a penalty, Collina pretends not to see the dive and gives it. To be fair Batistuta should probably have received a second yellow earlier in that game.
-Italy v/s Croatia: two valid goals by Italy (Vieri and Inzaghi) disallowed by the lord of bad referees, Graham Poll.
-South Korea v/s Portugal: some pretty contentious decisions there, all directed against the Portuguese. Joao Pinto sent off after just 27 minutes in a must-win game for the Portuguese.
-Italy v/s Mexico: another non-existent offside found against Italy as they scored.
-Belgium v/s Brazil: the Belgians take the lead with a superb acrobatic goal, only for it to be disallowed for a foul nobody had seen. Brazil go on to win 2-0.
-South Korea v/s Italy: Moreno messed up this game so badly that his most glaring error went unnoticed. Gattuso scored what should have been a winner, only for a non-existent offside to be given yet again.
-Germany v/s USA: USA almost score on a corner as one of their players heads the ball. A German on the line saves with his hand... officials rule there's nothing to see!
As a Korean, Korea should absolutely have lost to Spain, no question.
Korea vs Italy was a toss up if you look at the statistics of the game, but Italy should have edged Korea. Even with bad refereeing, Italy could have won but the goal was disallowed.
Korea got to the round of 16 FAIR and SQUARE and the campaign should have ended there. Portugal was poor, even lost to the USA, who got demolished by Poland and should have lost 4-1 to korea (19 shots to 5-6).
Germany and Turkey did not set aside Korea. The loss was a margin of one goal for each match.
I think the referee has all the reason to guve joao pinto that red card for his horrible tackle. (For context: he charged at south korean player's leg with excessive force, from the back)
I'm an Italy fan but there is one thing I disagree. Looking back, while it true that Italy had a few goals disallowed, the Pippo Inzaghi goal called back versus Croatia was correct. Inzaghi always did have a habit of grabbing the Defenders shirt and it happened here as well.
I agree with the rest though.
Thumbs up for remembering how Belgium/Wilmots was robbed vs Brazil.
Roy Jones Jr. could give you a few tips about South Korean host nation "influence"
That was a shocking decision
Wait a sec.. about the host nation always performing better, it is true. Valid point. But lets not forget this WC was co-hosted. Take a look at the other host's performance in 2002, it was much more realistic. In a group against Belgium, Russia and Tunisia, at that time, it was clearly very even and being a host could make a significant difference, which it did. Japan topped the group, but were then knocked out by Turkey on round of 16. Similar to USA (who then had a semi-professional team) in 94.
But South Korea's case was simply scandalous. Of course, I am not a detective assigned to investigate into that, and I think this was NEVER investigated at all, hence we don't have any substantial proof. But in this case the lack of proof only adds to the suspiciousness. It is pretty clear these results were fixed. I don't even think SK had a good team that year, they were clearly outplayed, especially against Portugal and Spain. And Sepp Blatter blames it on Italy's mistakes? Come on..
Also, I'm from Brazil, and I think this scandal benefited Brazil more than even South Korea. There was ref. help against Belgium and Turkey. Also, Italy was likely the strongest team on paper that WC, and that "loss" to SK opened the way to one of the weakest Germany team's ever to make it to the final against Brazil. It is like the manipulation went beyond guaranteeing a spectacular run for SK, but also wanted a Brazil x Big European match at the final.
Oh yes. Argentina and France were the favourites heading into the tournament, out at the group stage.
Of the teams remaining, Germany are in a bad period, England are... well, England. Brazil toyed with England even after going 1-0 down and one man down later. Realistically only Italy and Spain could hope to prevent Brazil's dominance. I still believe Brazil were better than them that year, Scolari built a solid team, got his selection and tactics spot on. It's just a shame we couldn't watch them take on Spain or Italy.
Japan also had bribery issue on the game against Russia which made them into R16.
What I remember about 02 was Germany handball on the line vs the USA
Sut up murican is not your game BTW basketball is your game? Because since 02 you began loosing as a Greek I know what I am talking about
Exactly, blatant handball, refs were/are corrupt
Fifa wouldn't looked into match fixing of the 2002 world cup if they weren't totally corrupt themselves.
Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Other than a series of outrageous one-sided calls I see no evidence of foul play.
Nope, none:
Really.
Uuuuuffffff I don't know
This is what tough honest no holes barred documentary videos are these days. I miss the days of Jeremy Paxman and Vincent Brown, now in it's place we have puffters making videos like this.
Italy could of won the entire thing IMO
I think that they would made the final by knocking out Spain and Germany and given Brazil a much better test than Germany did.
2002 is still the poorest WC knockout stage of my lifetime by a considerable distance. When you compare Italy vs Germany in 2006 or Holland vs Uruguay in 2010, then 2002 was shockingly bad. 2002 never had even one classic. The closest game Brazil had in 2002 was a 2-1 win vs a very average England team. Just awful.
I could just imagine the hype of Italy vs Brazil III. What a final that would’ve been. Star studded lineups on both sides, a rematch of 1970 and 1994. Of course, Spain had a great team too, and they could’ve just as easily advanced to the final. Germany was very lucky that both Italy and Spain were taken out ahead of them.
Trap was not playing with a great formation. Italy had talent, defense and forward and GK were loaded but the midfield lacked creativity (Zambro, Doni, di Livio, Tomassi and Gattuso I think got most of the playing time). Zambro had not yet been converted to a FB yet. Pirlo hadn’t broken into the squad yet.
Italy was really reliant on Totti being the “link” and was struggling (arguably had one good goal disallowed against Croatia). They were scraping by. The squad was just missing something.
Disagree the 2002 squad was stronger than 2006 squad. 2002 squad had bite in midfield. 2006 squad had creativity and bite in midfield.
I don't think so, but still what happened during the Round of 16 and (probably even more) the Quarter-Finals still is very suspect and morally questionable.
I think Italy would have been comfortably defeated by Spain, but still what it happened during the Round of 16 is something very bad.
The history of Jorge “El Magico” Gonzalez.
Wow. I admire the attempt at objectivity. However, Moreno is a criminal, and hardly decided to referee against Italy out of his own volition. He was banned from international refereeing which leads to at the very least suspicions of corruption. But more to the football point: half of the fouls shown in these "misleading" videos were awarded a foul, but not the yellow or even red cards they deserved. SK would never have won given by the end of half time there would have been 5 of them left on the pitch. This sitting on the fence is annoying given the standard of yellow cards displayed was Totti's "simulation". You'd have saved everyone 16 minutes of their time by saying "I can't find proof of corruption, but by god it looked fixed."
From World Cup referee to hardcore heroin smuggler.
Sounds like a movie.
Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Spain's 2nd disallowed goal (the one where the ball supposedly went off the boundary line) was a Golden Goal in extra time, meaning as soon as the goal was scored the game would finish. So there was no doubt spain would have gone thru as it wouldve been the last play of the game. Fucking disgraceful.
idea 7 players that picked their club over money. E.g Gerrard, Totti, etc
Gerrard, Totti, Lampard, Terry, Del Piero, Buffon and Giggs. There you go
@@LThaPunisha Tony Adams, David Silva and
Vardy?
Batistuta
@@LThaPunisha Lampard🤔
R2 Giggs was at the best club in the world for a lot of his career though..
I am old enough, and I was watching all matches of the 2002 World Cup. Four takeaways from me:
1) Some referees were horrible indeed.
2) Italy wasn't that good as people here think.
3) Spain still could've won on penalties and no one would say a word.
4) Koreans were actually quite decent. Plenty of them got contracts in good European leagues (including Serie A) after the World Cup.
"Plenty of them": who exactly? Seol Ki-hyeon, Lee Young-pyo, Lee Chun-soo, Cha Du-ri, Park Ji-sung, Song Chong-gug. 6 of 23, I wouldn't call that "plenty"... you make some good points otherwise. Italy in particular were a team of prestigious names playing some terrible football. Put Zoff or Lippi in place of Trapattoni, and this team would not even have had to face Korea - would have topped its group to find another opponent.
The way you pronounced Joaquin 😯😯
His videos are good but pronunciations are usually way off. Standard for an Englishman.
@@Finn_Lawless Ya the English cant pronounce names im not german but I can pronounce Müller properly
Joao-kin :v
Wondered if anyone else had noticed that!!!
@@Finn_Lawless als ob Deutsche gut darin wären
The refereeing in the Italy Korea match was 100% dodgey.
Why? Just cus he did the same thing before and four times after, and just cus he tried to smugguuuh.... 😧 Wait what?
HOLY CRAP this guys dodgy.
@Bersama - Sama Do your research dumbasses. South Korea are known for this bullshit, they did the same thing in the Olympics in 88.
@Nada Cinta Here we go, another twat.
@Nada Cinta Oh by the by, in case you haven't noticed, WE'RE NOW CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE FUCK STICK.
@Bersama - Sama OK. Hosting a major tournament that turned out to be totally crooked and the second time it happened again. This half the reason blatt was booted, it's common knowledge cus it was on the news. Why are you bull shiting everyone? I smell a troll.
2009-2010 Football Conference Teams: Where Are They Now?
Good idea man!!
stevenage champions that season. ten years later and we're on our way back to the conference
on planet earth.....hahaha
*JUST ASKING FOR A FRIEND*
@@adrevenue63 bruhh
People talkin' like bad decisions at 2002 World Cup is a travesty but name Maradona's handball goal as the 'hand of god'. WTF with the double standard?
do a video on the 2009 champions league semi-final chelsea vs barcelona
Or the 2005 rugby tackle on Valdez...
and the referee who was still allowed to officiate -
despite reaching the mandatory retirement age of 45 - and it's consequences...
(And the celebrity status the Italian held
i.e. how many world football referees
have ever endorsed a car manufacturer before - or since..?)
Are Chelsea fans still butthurt about that? Imagine how Ajax supporters feel after their two matches against Chelsea this season, that was much worse.
That's because Chelsea are despised in Europe because of their scumbag supporters and their criminal owners...
Not the only time Koreans are accused of fixing sporting events, just sayin
Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
aggressive play by SK, against Italy and Spain, pots calling kettle....
7:39 That referee has no light in his eyes, he looks dead.
Whilst the Italy team felt they had been robbed in the match versus S Korea, the aftermath was hilarious (I'd agree the offside goal and Totti sending off were harsh, but it does happen). Its not like the Italians have ever kicked and used "dark arts" (ie, cheating) to win a match eh?
Same in 2004 - bitching about the Denmark Sweden conspiracy (both teams needed a draw to progress, and it ended 2-2).
Maybe you should have beaten both teams when you had the chance?
That's victim blaming at its finest
with that logic, Columbine students deserved to be shot for being bullies and turning a blind eye when witnessing a bullying.
Short answer: YES.
Short answer, 2002 World Cup is worst refereed world cup of all time!!! I was old enough to remember it!!!
I was 3 years old
A lot of shady decisions the referees were making, I hope the next one in Qatar turns out fine.
I remember this world cup for morning kick offs and every pub offer a breakfast pint and a bacon sandwich for £3. Happy days
Not for the pig that was tortured and killed just so you could enjoy the taste for a couple of minutes
@@JasonWilliams89 it was what he would have wanted
@@ringosimon1 Even you couldn't possibly believe that
@@JasonWilliams89 would you like me to explain why eating meat is right?
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"South Korea had a very good squad in 2002, their strongest ever..." - I'm not well acquainted with korean football, maybe it was their strongest ever, but I don't agree with "had a very good squad". A quick research and I found that they had just two players in Europe at the time, one at Anderlecht and one in Serie B (he got his contract terminated after the 2002 WC). Any footballing nation with some results, has at least a handful of players in major leagues acting as the backbone of the team (look at the greek squad for Euro 2004, with players at Werder Bremen, Atletico Madrid, Inter Milano, AS Roma; same for danish squad of 1992), not the case for S Korea team in 2002.
Highly recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Yeah, the idea that any 2002 Korean players could compare to say... Son Heung-Min is just blatant nonsense. I'm sure Korea now/recently is stronger than they were back in the early 2000s and they still couldn't get past the Round of 16 since the 2002 World Cup, only getting out of the groups stage once in 2010.
People only have the impression that the 2002 Korean team is very good because of their deep run in that tournament. A run that is suspect, to say the least.
While i don't agree with that statement either. The one guy that was in an Italian league was getting death threats after the WC. That's why the contract was terminated. Cos he couldn't go back to Italy for his safety. After that he could have gotten a contract in an Epl team i forgot the name, but his greedy former korean team got in the way with their BS and fined the player for breach of contract and other bs. Affectively making him too expensive for most teams to sign. He eventually found a deal with a japanese team that would sign him but he was playing for them for like half the pay for years. So long story short he was robbed of a great career after the WC.
I remember the excitement of Turkey's run to bronze.
“This video is sponsored by the South Korean Football Association.”
Ahahaha
Brazil were insane at that World Cup. They would have won even without cheating.
You ignore a key factor that should have been considered: South Korea had a track record here. They hosted a big sporting even before: the 1988 Olympics. Even though they earned well deserved praise for their excellent staging and organisation of the event, the 12 gold medals they won raised serious issues of corruption. Two sports stood out - both of them infamous for the disproportionate influence of referees or other officials. One is handball. In the women's tournament, South Korea won the gold pretty much coming from nowhere. They later had notable success for a while, but at the time, it could not have happened without serious help from referees. The other sport was boxing. They won two golds there, and it was genuine scandal in the arena. In particular, Park Si-hun's inexplicable win over American Roy Jones was called into question. So, for many people in 2002, it felt like the South Korean's were up to their old tricks.
Keane’s goal vs Germany was the real highlight! Back when we were good 😌
The answer is simple: Yes it was.
When Italians don’t accept the defeat, we know that they become the real losers.
Recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
It wasn't just that Moreno made some bad calls - all refs have their bad days. It was that almost every call favoured Korea and punished Italy. That is why the game stinks of corruption.
Recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
No one ever talks about Portugal get two Red Cards to help Korea Advance from the Group Stage, or that they may have had 4 subs instead of 3 vs Poland
That's because Portugal's 2 red cards in their group game against South Korea were not controversial. The first one was a *clear* straight red - he could have broken the guy's leg in at *least* two places - and the second was a pretty straight-forward second yellow, unless the first yellow was super harsh.
I don't know if you remember that, but the koreans played violently throughout the whole tournament. They KNEW that they - and only they - could get away with it. Other teams obviously reacted to the constant aggressive, unsanctioned fouls, but with the only consequence of seeing their own players thrown out of the pitch by means of red cards. Portugal might therefore have deserved 2 red cards, but Korea deserved at least 2 or 3 every match and they didn't get a single one
@@amoreazione3563 you forgot the elbows by Vieri and Totti which happened before Korean fouls
and what unsanctioned? Portugal played rougher
at least watch the games before saying shit
4 subs ??
The 2002 World Cup was dodgy and controversial, but i can say with 99% certainty that South Korea didn't do anything to fix it. I know this by a documentary shown on the Dutch television of Guus Hiddink and his time as National Team coach at South Korea. Hiddink fought with the own freaking government to get the players out of military service. That's one of the main reasons they performed so good.
It could however, still be possible that there was maffia stuff going on, and that the referee(s) was (were) bought by someone outside of football
Japanese stadiums though... decades ahead of Europe at the time. Sapporo Dome was my favourite, and blew my mind with its hoovering interchangeable pitches.
Which one was your favourite / you found as the most interesting venue from FIFAWorldCup2002?
Sapporo was gorgeous indeed. I also liked Saitama, Kobe and Oita. On the Korean side I liked Seogwipo. Realistically Japan had the best stadiums and could have hosted the whole event.
If it was fixed, wouldn't have South Korea at least gotten third place? They couldn't even do that.
Technically three goals for Spain cause they called the threw ball offside when it wasn't and he just gave it to the goalie
Can you also make a video on the 1982 World Cup, in which Algerians allege that the West Germans and Austrians fixed their tie to progress at their expense, the Disgrace of Gijon ?
Italy were robbed big time ,I had 2 ton on them to win the cup, far too many crucial decisions went against them to be just coincidence
the italy 1934 was absolutely outrageous. czechoslovakia was far better and was winning , but then they where simply kicked out of the field with refree just watching, they were reportetly attacked from the stands as well
I'm chalking up the game to poor officiating and not a conspiracy, but Italy was really, really hard done by that game. Sepp Blatter saying Italy should have performed better neglected the fact that they performed well enough, should have won the golden goal, and that to have THAT many egregious calls against you in a match will understandably cause the players to have their morale and levelheadedness plummet.
To be fair Guus Hiddink is one hell of a manager too he use to be able to transform any team into potential Champs
👍 Recommended: How Korea won in 2002 World Cup : ruclips.net/video/5Ywa2fWThSM/видео.html
Dude, you forget the most obvious dis-allowed goal! Belgium's goal against Brazil. A pure, clean goal. Disallawed. As a Belgian, I lost here all my faith in Fifa. ruclips.net/video/ZGwjQqXu_IM/видео.html
Just mistake
Every world cup always have bad time
And Mexico stolen to promote USA
Spain, I could understand the frustration because they did have a call where a goal was ruled offside. But Italy has no excuse.
Italians complain even to this day and honestly, they have no one to blame but themselves. If you rewatch the game, the whole game was a physical war between the two nations. It was two teams hacking each other. Many people comment on this game as if they saw the whole match when all they saw was a biased highlight favoring Italians. It shows Francesco Coco bleeding from his head and make it seem like Koreans did it when the truth is it was Tommasi accidently hitting his teammate splitting his head open. Lot of times, it doesn't even include Vieri elbowing Korean player and breaking his nose (no card btw). It is so biased on favor of one side. The officiating was not great I get it but don't make it seem like it was only Koreans who were favored. Italian got away with many fouls and a penalty as well. If you can, watch the full game again and judge for yourself.
In my opinion, Guus Hiddink did a phenomenal job creating a team and the players were willing to die for him (and yes there were favorable decision as home advantage). They out ran the opponents every game and the preparation for the WC was something unseen. I believe Hiddink arranged friendlies against nations like England, Scotland, France and other powerhouses to get his players know the atmosphere of going against great teams (I was in elementary at the time so I might have missed couple nations) and he discovered many young players who went onto play in Europe (Ji Sung Park, YP Lee, etc). Their victory against Portugal was a prime example of how prepared they were.
There's actually a guy on youtube who recently rewatched the 2002 Spain vs South Korea with his Spainard friend. Here is the link.
ruclips.net/video/Y14nSnMhEb4/видео.html (It is in Spainish btw)
Here's the Italian one
ruclips.net/video/05ZGKrX7DSg/видео.html
Anyways, I love Serie A and La Liga. Hope everyone is safe and healthy. Peace.
marchveris bruh u have so much bias look at ur channel uploads it’s literally an asian gaming tournament u have lost ur credibility stick to video games
@@Luckyheraclius89 I have one video of esport. I used to have a lot more other things (NBA, MLB, rap songs) but it got taken down due to copyright. And I do admit I'm biased as well but I'll have to kindly reject your comment on focusing on video games. I used to watch a lot of it but never really was a player. In fact kinda grew out of it around mid 20s as gaming was never really my hobby. Try to be more open minded, I'm from Los Angeles and grew up playing all sorts of sports. Dismissing someone because they have 1 esport clip doesn't sound too convincing.
Koltini Assunti yes, dont listen to the man who watched the full fucking match
OZKORAPPA his words he can say he did but his bias is the only thing that’s proven
marchveris yet the language of the videos title is
what annoys me is the massive double standard. whenever italians are aggressive and commit fouls, it's regarded as "the italian physical style of play", as though it is something normal and expected of italy's national team. but when italy is on the receiving end of physical play, all of a sudden, it's unfair?
Italians don’t deserve them complain.
I think, that Asian and AfriCAN Nations; should host/be involved More but, the decisions; should be well thought out/fear: "may (all) the best -team(s)- win!!"?? And the QUALITY, of the Ref's, be excellent.
**I think, that I meant to say, Fair, not fear, L.O.L.!?**!!??
The 1982 World Cup they changed the rules based on this WC
You know it's bad when even the Italians think it was corrupt.
Not just the Spaniards and Italians! The Portuguese too! Portugal is always forgotten in this discussion . The ref made highly questionable decisions when Portugal and Korea faced each other in the group stage.
At least group stage were fair. I just remember that Russians insisted Japanese bribery on the group stage. What’s the point you say was suspicious?
As a South Korean I can understand the Spanish people angry with that result but Italian? No.
South Koreans remembered this fondly.
As they do drawing 2-2 with Spain in Dallas, 1994;
not to forget Kwang's free-kick in 1990.
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South Korea win with clear match
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
@@moralitaskarbitan6282 no, they didn't
@@moralitaskarbitan6282 clear match? The fuck! Are you blind or something? Lots of Italian player got injured by those plastic players
Spain's second disallowed goal cannot really be considered a "disallowed goal". The linesman signaled for a goal kick just after the cross and the referee had already blown his whistle before Morientes' header. The Korean goalie didn't try to make the save.
There were a few sketchy decisions in that match, though, particularly two very tight (or non-existing) offsides.
now do the chelsea vs barcelona ucl semi final!!!
Or the Chelsea-Barca UCL QF in 2005..?
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Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Italy and Spain are still bitter about losing to South Korea.
Stfu coronavirus carrier
Point proven. :-)
Alfie with all due respect, you seen Portugal v Korea in 2002 and you did not see dodgy refing ?? having said that we were atrocious at that WC
Pinto's tackle was clearly a red
Beto's second yellow was questionable but dangerous
@@IHSpark7325 agreed BUT the entire match was swayed in Korea's favor ..BUT lie I said Portugal where also terrible in that WC
In general Italy should have done better, but also in the group stage they were wrongly denied the tying goal against Croatia and another regular goal when the match against Mexico was 0-0
Senegal DIDN'T dump France out after the tournament opener. France could still qualify. Not prepared to watch the rest on the basis of that alone. Poor.
Oh shut up
Guus Hiddink is known for this, his other teams like Australia and Russia in 2008 performed very well, despite their underdog status
Yes!!! Korea should have won.
They were genuinely ascendent at the time. But the Blatter-FIFA fix was called in and they were hobbled by the referee. They were gutted and didn't perform in the wooden spoon game Vs. Turkey. I did wonder whether the Koreans had bribed match officials at some point, however.
The ticketing in Korea was a debacle; new stadiums, yet we couldn't get tickets despite the stadiums being largely vacant; reserved for non domestic fans who never turned up. The Korean public were incredible during the tournament.
The joke at the time was the WC was fixed and Scotland still failed to qualify. The only team in history to have not benefitted from such corruption.
Two host nations where Blatter the crook was looking to make money from. One of them, japan, was eliminated on the morning. The second, S Korea was due to play in the afternoon. Did anyone really think they'd go out?
I have watched (live, while they were happening) all the World Cups since 1978 and to be honest, only Argentina in 1978 and Korea in 2002 had the type of home advantage which has to do with officiating. In the other editions the home teams perhaps had home advantage in terms of having more supporters, but for instance Spain, Mexico, Italy, France and Germany were great teams in the editions they hosted between 1986 and 2006 and, apart from Mexico in 86, they all had the quality for even winning the editions they were hosting and France actually did
Which countries that haven't hosted a World Cup would make a great host? For me, I'd like to see on in the Netherlands or Belgium
They hosted the European Championship together in 2000
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Isa Samad my comment btw but im fat for my age so i guess you can say a large amount of people
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Italians have no right to talk about match fixing. Just look at serie A in the 2000s. Every big team in Italy were paying of refs
We are talking about national teams not clubs, you are not the sharpest tool in the box.
Italy complaining about playing dirty and corruption? Do me a f**king favour
Most nuanced video about this subject that I've seen so far.