Look at the Think Tank Retrospective 7. I got it included with a camera purchase and I think it’s the best camera bag I’ve ever had. Very spacious with good organization, but compresses down really nice while still offering good protection
so i have the v1 15" which i now just use it to store my telephoto lenses. I purchased the v2 in grey for work in the summer, i use the 30l backpack in the winter. It's a great bag, although i worry about the tube (london), but its a good smart bag. I also got a good deal, £90 for a 2nd hand bag. when i arrived, it looked new. I tried to register it, and it worked. So, a bargain.
Purchased this and the peak design 30L because of your reviews! Thank you for being so informative! I keep coming back to you whenever I'm ready for another bag search :)
@@CannabisTechLife For my daily carry and I am definitely using the 13L messenger bag to get from work, home, and just traveling in between other family events. I carry daily my laptop, charger, wireless mouse, my camera body (a7c) with a tamron 28-75, and hard drives/wires. It is a good weight. I have options to load it out more and play some puzzle work with it but then weight will be a concern for daily use. But there is definitely a lot of customization potential with it.
I owned the V1 messenger and the V2 design is quite different in a lot of ways. Like, way more differences than the V1 to V2 backpack. There are hardly any reviews at all of the V2 messenger so thanks for taking a look. I'd really like to see a review of the V2 messenger by someone who used/owned the V1 to get an idea of how those changes add up. The V2 got rid of quite a few aspects which were major selling points on the V1, such as the convenient top zip for quick access to the main compartment. The front zip pocket also looks significantly smaller, and they no longer offer the 15inch size which I own. Me, I opted to replace my V1 messenger with a 20l backpack zip because I don't think the 13l only size of the V2 messenger is big enough for my carry needs.
Waiting for this bag to be delivered. Loved Peak Design's duffle and 45L travel backpack. Need something that is a good companion to travel backpack and everyday carry - I prefer messengers to backpacks, because most backpacks just offer too much space for what I carry, but I need something bigger than a compact messenger. Hoping this is the right one!
@@Nomads.Nation Welp... it's just too small for my use case. I thought maybe I could fit my larger laptop in the main compartment and it's a no go. It's a very comfortable bag, but I do wish there was a better way to carry a water bottle, and I wish there was a bigger size. Now I'm looking at the Nomatic messenger bag!
@@Xsparger really appreciate the update! also appreciate you saying its 'too small for my use case' - lots of people will just talk shit about the product instead of realizing its just not a good fit for their personal gear/lifestyle. If you get a Nomatic be sure to let us know how that works!
I bought the 20l zip last week and have found it too rigid to to only carry on one shoulder and too difficult to access my laptop and 12.9 iPad Pro. My question is if the messenger bag is more comfortable and also easier to access both a laptop and tablet?
Hey Andy, I think that backpacks are always more comfortable than messengers due to even weight distribution, but for a messenger this is one of the most comfortable I've ever tested. As for laptop access - certainly easier when carrying the messenger, but about the same if not. Hope that helps! Let us know what you decide to get
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the reply and the awesome videos. Any recommendations on a EDC backpack that can hold a 13 inch laptop and 12.9 iPad. I need to occasionally pack in my camera and lens.
@@Nomads.Nation No, but I was looking for a messenger bag when I found the previous one. It also had some minors drawbacks but it was far better than that V2. Good luck on your reviews!
Great review, I just don't understand the issue with the looks. I own the black version, and I think it's BY FAR the best looking messenger out there. The Nomatic just looks plain boring to me. Actually, I always used to use backpacks for EDC, but this guy turned me around, and I use it everyday now, for work, for just strolling through the city picking up a few things, and even light travel.
Great video, and thanks for all the detials. I'm considering this pack, but I live in Taiwan, and have to deal with frequent tropical down pour, do you have any thoughts on how well it would cope in tropical rain?
Thank you! This bag is extremely water resistant but it is NOT water proof. Do not put it in the middle of a typhoon and think your stuff will be ok. But if you are walking down the street, it starts raining heavily, and you have an umbrella and are trying to keep yourself and your messenger dry-ish, yeah it'll be fine :)
So I have a v1 or v1.5 of the 15" bag and its great. This v2 of the 13" will not stand up correctly at all. Major dissapointment. All of their other bags can stand up with the exception of this one.
Why would anybody secure something as important as their wallet anywhere but on their person? Great review! Disclaimer, I own one of these and it’s a fantastic product, overpriced but quite good like all Peak products.
@@ChrisBrayPhotos thanks for the comment! But I agree to disagree. I'm going to have a bag regardless, so might as well free my pockets and keep the wallet in a safe compartment in the bag.
I'm with you on this one, wallet and phone on my person for security, not comfort reasons if I am in a busy suburban area. I feel it is more likely a person could grab my bag and run if I am distracted, sitting with the bag off, etc... than the chances of them physically confronting me and making me empty my pockets.
Hey guys, just some feedback on your vids from a fellow videographer: I have to say I do really like how far into detail you go with your videos, you've definitely helped me make a more informed decision of which bag to go for (trying to decide between the nomatic and peak design messengers) On the flip side, however, I think you guys could really benefit from shooting your vids in higher resolution (or with a better camera) and some of your angle choices are questionable in your Multicam setups (don't include shots with the other camera in frame) Just some constructive criticism (you did ask for it!!) I wish you all the best and I think you guys deserve more traction on your videos, you just need to tighten up the bolts a little on the production side of things Keep creating and keep getting better! PS: I suggest you guys go and check some of these links in the descriptions of your vids, they either don't work at all, or they just link me to the website (rather than a discount like you've mentioned in the vids)
YES! I've been waiting for feedback like this for ages! I'm Tav, the guy behind the camera- as far as getting better equipment, there's not much I can do, but id LOVE to hear more about the angles! besides keeping the A camera in shot, are there any other weird ones? I was going for a cool, behind the scenes feel with it, but I guess its breaking the fourth wall, if A cam is in the shot. I'd love to hear more, but I can't DM you :(
yes. I own both the messenger and a 14" Macbook Pro M1 Max. No problems. It is a tight fit, and you can't have like an additional case on your macbook, but it will fit. Half an inch or so of the MacBook will peak out when you insert it into the slot, but that's no problem for me. The bag will close easily, even down on the lowest rail.
True, but those are really hidden, I don't think pickers would know, just by looking at it, plus they face towards you, making it less than ideal. If I were a picker id access the main compartment instead.
@@Nomads.Nation Thiefs are super sensitive about camera bags models (not in a fashion meaning:D ). So... The problem is that it's not like someone will go stealth and pick your camera from the bag. I would say that suddenly a victim stands in the artificial crowd. At this time the bag gets cut open, and whatever falls out of it is lost. Especially popular with backpacks, as it will take a second or two for the victim to realize and turn around. Anyway, maybe it's just my experience, but I would never put phone or wallet into side pocket or the biggest compartment - I would put it to section that you will not loose when it gets cut.
@@tnts999998 Amazing insight! I will admit, one element we fall short on our channel is talking about security from theft. I will def. make a point to consider this more in future reviews :)
This bag is ugly… The latch design makes it easy to get pickpocket when travel and there’s no way to put a lock on it. It’s also very bulky no matter how little you pack inside. The shoulder strap is uncomfortable and dig into your shoulder. I ended up selling mine and got the 10l sling instead.
I hate it doesn't seem to sit flat and doing the measurements on both websites its almost exactly the same size as a Billingham Hadley Pro that somehow feels like you can put about the same amount stuff in it but doesn't look huge. And my gosh who puts their wallet in their bag. That's like leaving your child in a empty vehicle 😂
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I use this messenger with my 14 inch MacBook Pro M1 Max, fits perfectly.
Look at the Think Tank Retrospective 7. I got it included with a camera purchase and I think it’s the best camera bag I’ve ever had. Very spacious with good organization, but compresses down really nice while still offering good protection
I'll be sure to check it out
so i have the v1 15" which i now just use it to store my telephoto lenses. I purchased the v2 in grey for work in the summer, i use the 30l backpack in the winter. It's a great bag, although i worry about the tube (london), but its a good smart bag. I also got a good deal, £90 for a 2nd hand bag. when i arrived, it looked new. I tried to register it, and it worked. So, a bargain.
great deal!
Purchased this and the peak design 30L because of your reviews! Thank you for being so informative! I keep coming back to you whenever I'm ready for another bag search :)
Which one do you find you end up using more often?
@@CannabisTechLife For my daily carry and I am definitely using the 13L messenger bag to get from work, home, and just traveling in between other family events. I carry daily my laptop, charger, wireless mouse, my camera body (a7c) with a tamron 28-75, and hard drives/wires. It is a good weight. I have options to load it out more and play some puzzle work with it but then weight will be a concern for daily use. But there is definitely a lot of customization potential with it.
@@riccivlogs thanks for your reply! I have the 30l so might get the messenger as well. Cheers!
I owned the V1 messenger and the V2 design is quite different in a lot of ways. Like, way more differences than the V1 to V2 backpack. There are hardly any reviews at all of the V2 messenger so thanks for taking a look.
I'd really like to see a review of the V2 messenger by someone who used/owned the V1 to get an idea of how those changes add up. The V2 got rid of quite a few aspects which were major selling points on the V1, such as the convenient top zip for quick access to the main compartment. The front zip pocket also looks significantly smaller, and they no longer offer the 15inch size which I own.
Me, I opted to replace my V1 messenger with a 20l backpack zip because I don't think the 13l only size of the V2 messenger is big enough for my carry needs.
Love it! Thank you for letting the people know, love hearing from other people who have used it! Sadly, we never tested the V1, being a new channel
Thank You! I was trying to find out info on the quick access top zip. I'm still trying to find the right bag for my needs.
Hi ! Water can enter in the bag by the top ? I’m cycling every day and I worried about that ( sorry for my English l’m from Belgium )
Hey Lamine, this messenger is water resistant but not waterproof. Hope that helps!
Waiting for this bag to be delivered. Loved Peak Design's duffle and 45L travel backpack.
Need something that is a good companion to travel backpack and everyday carry - I prefer messengers to backpacks, because most backpacks just offer too much space for what I carry, but I need something bigger than a compact messenger.
Hoping this is the right one!
keep us posted what you think of the bag after testing it for a few weeks
@@Nomads.Nation Welp... it's just too small for my use case.
I thought maybe I could fit my larger laptop in the main compartment and it's a no go.
It's a very comfortable bag, but I do wish there was a better way to carry a water bottle, and I wish there was a bigger size.
Now I'm looking at the Nomatic messenger bag!
@@Xsparger really appreciate the update! also appreciate you saying its 'too small for my use case' - lots of people will just talk shit about the product instead of realizing its just not a good fit for their personal gear/lifestyle. If you get a Nomatic be sure to let us know how that works!
another great review, love the channel, keep the good work man.
Thank you so much for the encouragement!
I bought the 20l zip last week and have found it too rigid to to only carry on one shoulder and too difficult to access my laptop and 12.9 iPad Pro. My question is if the messenger bag is more comfortable and also easier to access both a laptop and tablet?
Hey Andy, I think that backpacks are always more comfortable than messengers due to even weight distribution, but for a messenger this is one of the most comfortable I've ever tested. As for laptop access - certainly easier when carrying the messenger, but about the same if not. Hope that helps! Let us know what you decide to get
@@Nomads.Nation thanks for the reply and the awesome videos. Any recommendations on a EDC backpack that can hold a 13 inch laptop and 12.9 iPad. I need to occasionally pack in my camera and lens.
It seems that this one that you reviewed is a different version from the first original one that appeared a few years ago.
Yes, this is V2 I belive... Do you own the original?
@@Nomads.Nation No, but I was looking for a messenger bag when I found the previous one. It also had some minors drawbacks but it was far better than that V2.
Good luck on your reviews!
Thanks mate!
Great review, I just don't understand the issue with the looks. I own the black version, and I think it's BY FAR the best looking messenger out there. The Nomatic just looks plain boring to me. Actually, I always used to use backpacks for EDC, but this guy turned me around, and I use it everyday now, for work, for just strolling through the city picking up a few things, and even light travel.
Glad you like it so much! Looks are subjective, it’s just not my personal vibe
@@Nomads.Nation What’s Your Fav at present?
hello, is it holds 16" MacBook Pro ?
I'd check the peak design website for laptop specifications :)
They specify that it officially holds a 13" laptop. I have seen reviewers *squeeze* in 15"/16", *but* Peak Design does *not* recommend that.
no way
definitely not. I have a 14" MacBook Pro, and this is already a tight fit. No chance of getting anything bigger than the 14" in there.
Great video, and thanks for all the detials. I'm considering this pack, but I live in Taiwan, and have to deal with frequent tropical down pour, do you have any thoughts on how well it would cope in tropical rain?
Thank you! This bag is extremely water resistant but it is NOT water proof. Do not put it in the middle of a typhoon and think your stuff will be ok. But if you are walking down the street, it starts raining heavily, and you have an umbrella and are trying to keep yourself and your messenger dry-ish, yeah it'll be fine :)
So I have a v1 or v1.5 of the 15" bag and its great. This v2 of the 13" will not stand up correctly at all. Major dissapointment. All of their other bags can stand up with the exception of this one.
Agreed that a bag that stands up by itself is a better bag
Does anybody have any experience with fitting a macbook pro 14inch?
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Why would anybody secure something as important as their wallet anywhere but on their person?
Great review!
Disclaimer, I own one of these and it’s a fantastic product, overpriced but quite good like all Peak products.
I personally always put my wallet in my bag. Hate things in my pockets. Thanks for the comment!
If the bag is always on your body then it's not much different than being in your pocket
@@ChrisBrayPhotos Okay 😳
@@ChrisBrayPhotos thanks for the comment! But I agree to disagree. I'm going to have a bag regardless, so might as well free my pockets and keep the wallet in a safe compartment in the bag.
I'm with you on this one, wallet and phone on my person for security, not comfort reasons if I am in a busy suburban area. I feel it is more likely a person could grab my bag and run if I am distracted, sitting with the bag off, etc... than the chances of them physically confronting me and making me empty my pockets.
Hey guys, just some feedback on your vids from a fellow videographer:
I have to say I do really like how far into detail you go with your videos, you've definitely helped me make a more informed decision of which bag to go for (trying to decide between the nomatic and peak design messengers)
On the flip side, however, I think you guys could really benefit from shooting your vids in higher resolution (or with a better camera) and some of your angle choices are questionable in your Multicam setups (don't include shots with the other camera in frame)
Just some constructive criticism (you did ask for it!!)
I wish you all the best and I think you guys deserve more traction on your videos, you just need to tighten up the bolts a little on the production side of things
Keep creating and keep getting better!
PS: I suggest you guys go and check some of these links in the descriptions of your vids, they either don't work at all, or they just link me to the website (rather than a discount like you've mentioned in the vids)
YES! I've been waiting for feedback like this for ages! I'm Tav, the guy behind the camera- as far as getting better equipment, there's not much I can do, but id LOVE to hear more about the angles! besides keeping the A camera in shot, are there any other weird ones? I was going for a cool, behind the scenes feel with it, but I guess its breaking the fourth wall, if A cam is in the shot.
I'd love to hear more, but I can't DM you :(
Amazing channel. Subbed !
Thanks so much Manu!!!
Will it hold macbook pro 14"?
That’s a great question for Peak Design customer support. Please let us know what they say!!
yes. I own both the messenger and a 14" Macbook Pro M1 Max. No problems. It is a tight fit, and you can't have like an additional case on your macbook, but it will fit. Half an inch or so of the MacBook will peak out when you insert it into the slot, but that's no problem for me. The bag will close easily, even down on the lowest rail.
side pocket with wallet? Pickers "like" it (thumbs up) :D
True, but those are really hidden, I don't think pickers would know, just by looking at it, plus they face towards you, making it less than ideal. If I were a picker id access the main compartment instead.
@@Nomads.Nation Thiefs are super sensitive about camera bags models (not in a fashion meaning:D ). So... The problem is that it's not like someone will go stealth and pick your camera from the bag. I would say that suddenly a victim stands in the artificial crowd. At this time the bag gets cut open, and whatever falls out of it is lost. Especially popular with backpacks, as it will take a second or two for the victim to realize and turn around. Anyway, maybe it's just my experience, but I would never put phone or wallet into side pocket or the biggest compartment - I would put it to section that you will not loose when it gets cut.
@@tnts999998 Amazing insight! I will admit, one element we fall short on our channel is talking about security from theft. I will def. make a point to consider this more in future reviews :)
V1 side pockets doesn't have zippers, so big improvement there in free solo2.
@@royalarches Agreed!
In your comment about size, they have a smaller 13 in model
Thanks Marc!
They actually only have on size which is the 13 in model..
@@rubelukeable Thanks for the clarification!
This bag is ugly… The latch design makes it easy to get pickpocket when travel and there’s no way to put a lock on it. It’s also very bulky no matter how little you pack inside. The shoulder strap is uncomfortable and dig into your shoulder. I ended up selling mine and got the 10l sling instead.
If you think it’s ugly then why did you buy it?
Love the vid
Thank you!
I hate it doesn't seem to sit flat and doing the measurements on both websites its almost exactly the same size as a Billingham Hadley Pro that somehow feels like you can put about the same amount stuff in it but doesn't look huge. And my gosh who puts their wallet in their bag. That's like leaving your child in a empty vehicle 😂
I do all the time lol, safer than my pockets for sure
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