As someone with only woodworking tools at home, I really appreciate the shots where you step back and show what your hands are doing during an operation.
I like the content and style of your videos. You explain enough so we know what's happening but you get down to business in quick order. Thanks for posting.
I bought an old Brown and Sharpe OD grinder at a sale last summer, looked as rough as the shaper. After looking at it I almost didn't bid on it but no one else did either so I bid $50.00 and got it along a big cabinet of grinding wheels, also many other attachments. Spent all summer cleaning it up and painting. Repaired everything and it came out great. Weighs 2900lbs............I love it! Old American iron is the best!!
I'm not a machinist but I enjoy your website I enjoy watching you work thanks for killing time for me I'm just able to get home and you provide me great entertainment
Thank you for bringing a beautiful piece of history back to life It's a shame to see a work of art that created the world that we have just sit and rust away
Love old machines. They really made something to last back in the day... Sad to see it in such rough looking shape, but sure would be nice to see it all cleaned up and operational again one day for sure! Nice vid man!
Thanks Adam, for showing these small pieces. Where I did my machining apprenticeship here in Australia, most of my days were filled with those kinds of jobs. Mostly bushings and pulleys and everything else in between for farm machinery. We made good money making replacement parts for big name machinery as it was so expensive to buy OEM parts. Love your channel man 👍🏻
14:00 As a rule, I like to rough both id and od before finishing either, eg face, drill, rough od, let it cool, finish id, face and od. Not that it's critical in all applications, but I found it doesn't take any more time to design operations this way and in some parts it helps get that crucial additional precision.
That bearing for the wood shaper, if anyone was wondering, sits on that shaft above or below the cutter. The bearing is used to follow the shape of the work or a pattern either for flush cutting to the pattern or cutting a profile into a curved piece.
Mr Adam Abom! I love everything you do, but I miss those monster turning projects you did from your old work. Thanks for showing the first project today, brought back that big-iron feel :)
I am greatful people like yourself take the time to video your work... I've learned a lot watching your video's. I subscribed a while ago. Thanks for another great video.
Great video! The wood warehouse machine collection was awesome! Some of those machines were absolute beasts! The wide wood slabs at the beginning of the tour were probably bubinga. The finish planed pile you commented on near the end of the tour is mahogany. I have a friend in Oxford PA who is an exotic wood dealer and they have a 60" bandsaw mill they salvaged from the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard (when the shipyard cut millions of board feet of teak for the decks of battleships and other military vessels), restored it and now a railroad tracked carrier moves gigantic logs of mahogany and other exotics past its 6" wide blade. Unbelievable machine!
Do you have a name for the wood dealer? I could use another place near me. I'm in Levittown Pa Oxford is only 1 1/2 hours away. The wood dealer i use is hit or miss with what i need.
I know exactly which bandsaw they have. It's a Fay & Egan. They must have bought it after the auction was over. I was at the auction and it didn't sell during the initial bidding. The opening bid went down to $5.00, yes, five dollars, and no one raised their hand. It took every bit of self control I had not to buy it. I didn't have a place to put it and the rigging costs to remove it would have been well into the thousands of dollars. There was a like new Turner re-saw bandsaw that sold for $500.00. A dealer ended up with that one. There was a lot of really nice machinery that went dirt cheap at that auction. Anyway, I'm glad that the Fay & Egan found a home. I really thought that it was going to end up in the scrap yard.
Adam, You and this channel are the primary reason there is a lathe, drill press band saw, etc, etc... in my workroom right now. And did you know how much golfers love gadgets? :) There's money to be made for sure! This was a very good mix of content. Great finish on those surfaces.
I call the machine for which you made the stub shafts a Hydro AXE. Great for clearing underbrush and small trees but expensive to operate and maintain.
When I was at Boeing I ran a Cincinatti convertable mill very similar to that one. I did more horizontal work with it than verticle. It was so aggrivating to tram that head in when you used it. There is a tremendous market for those types of wood. Reclaimed timbers etc....... That is a BIG warehouse.
здорово, ребята, что вы реально что-то производите руками, а не потными пальцами на экране чертей гоняете :) Я тоже делаю свою мастерскую, восстанавливаю станки, но мне до вас далеко пока :)
When I cut my teeth as a machine shop machinery repair technician we had Barber Coleman spur gear hobs just like are shown I this video. We had a Fellows gear shaper as well. These machines were replaced with CNC technology in 1993. Your brief pan over the machines brought back memories. The small machines used non adjustable shaft V belt design for power transmission. Impossible to stretch or tension a standard V belt, they employed link V belts. Fitting link belts together under tension was a chore. The first two layers were not too bad, but the third layer was an extreme fight. Link belts are super popular on wood working machinery today to smooth out the thumping of standard V belts. I don't recall now if those Barber Coleman machines used the popular wood working red belt material, but the black mineral oil cutting fluid used on those machines had those belts black as sin when I worked on them.
i was cleaning the output shaft on a Hydro-Ax once with emery cloth and didn't realize that i had decreased the circumference so much that i barely had to heat the bearing race to slide it on the shaft. Got to be careful with emery cloth and surface rust, its easy to take off more than you want.
Just wondering if you ever miss working on the big stuff from your old job? I think about being back at my old job once in a while, then I take a cold shower, and I'm back to normal again.
Enjoyed watching vid, those big machines were impressive and they looked like the owner had restored them. They could have been from rail, ship yards my guess.
Most repair shop's I've been in have a minimum charge, say 1/2 hour minimum. (some shops 1 hr. min, I've seen.) I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a "FLAT-RATE-BOOK-PRICE" for machinist work. I used to work in the autobody field, we had pre-computer's, "FLAT-RATE-BOOK-PRICE" for most operations concerning autobody work. Where a lot of people got it wrong, and probability still do, is the "FLAT-RATE" is for a repair/replacement of a "UNDAMAGED" part. Now throw in some damage, and it gets very subjective, i.e., because of the way a part is now damaged, does it need an extra 20 minutes to be added, or is it an extra 35 minutes because of the limited access to the part, because of the damage. What would the "Flat-Rate" be for a machinist to chuck up a part into a lathe, to find out if the part is running true, or is it off by a mile?
@@stanwooddave9758 The "minimum" charges are to detour people that come in wanting you to do simple tasks for free and on the spot. Those little jobs can eat away at the time that you could be spending on other good paying jobs. I'm all about helping people in need, but it's a business. We have to charge for the time we put into working. We used to have a "$10 minimum" because of those little " hey man can you get this broken bolt out for me real quick? take ya 5 minutes" Now a days that minimum has gone up, for most shops. Most places don't want to stop what they're doing to get little jobs done, and if they do then you gotta pay! Otherwise, leave it and we'll call you when it's finished. Fortunately for my buddy's welding shop, he and I have had a very long lasting friendship, both personal and for business, so we help each other out as much as possible.
Always good to see lance. He is getting a nice assortment of machines. I have noticed you aren't posting any content from your day job any more if you mentioned the reason I missed it was just curious i always enjoy seeing those projects. Hope you and Abby have a great weekend!!!
@max nex Wow I missed that one must of happened when i had to step away from youtube for a few months when we had to move my wifes mother here and had to take care of a lot of stuff with her I'M sure motion hated to loose Adam but I'M happy for him!!!
I have no experience in machining but I have a question regarding the difference in the the diameter between the two disks? The measurement was 1/2 thousandth larger on the disk closest to the chuck relative to the disk near the tailstock. Does that mean the tailstock was out by 1/4 a thousandth? Or some other minuscule measurement? Or was the chuck out? Could be either?
Hey Adam. Love the vids-you inspired me to build my own little bench top shop in my garage. So thank you, I’m having a ball. Question though, why don’t you have a surface grinder? I see lots of content creators have them
He had one before that he was going to rebuild but I think he got rid of it, maybe it was a bit bigger job than he wanted at the time, I'm sure he'll get another one eventually.
its to prevent that the cutting tool and the material get to hot. the cutting tool will last longer and the chips are better, if the material gets to hot it will harden out and the cutting will get real difficult and the chips burn onto the cutting tool which will lead to tool destruction.
As someone with only woodworking tools at home, I really appreciate the shots where you step back and show what your hands are doing during an operation.
Adam's journey of machining is something a person can enjoy watching. Excellent filming and solid content.
Love the old dirty machines. Feels good to rescue one. I"m sure Lance will take good care of it. Thanks for sharing Adam.
I like the content and style of your videos. You explain enough so we know what's happening but you get down to business in quick order. Thanks for posting.
The surface finish at 09:52 is simply stunning. This is quality work!
I bought an old Brown and Sharpe OD grinder at a sale last summer, looked as rough as the shaper. After looking at it I almost didn't bid on it but no one else did either so I bid $50.00 and got it along a big cabinet of grinding wheels, also many other attachments. Spent all summer cleaning it up and painting. Repaired everything and it came out great. Weighs 2900lbs............I love it! Old American iron is the best!!
Good to see another shaper rescued.
I always enjoy watching your work. I have taken so much away from your videos. Thanks for the time and effort you have put into your videos.
I'm not a machinist but I enjoy your website I enjoy watching you work thanks for killing time for me I'm just able to get home and you provide me great entertainment
I really enjoy seeing these quick little jobs from time to time
Thank you for bringing a beautiful piece of history back to life
It's a shame to see a work of art that created the world that we have just sit and rust away
It has to smell rly nice in that wood warehouse.
I'll bet. I was waiting for Adam to mention it.
Beautiful work. Thoughtful and peaceful. A pleasure to watch. Thanks!
Love old machines. They really made something to last back in the day... Sad to see it in such rough looking shape, but sure would be nice to see it all cleaned up and operational again one day for sure! Nice vid man!
Thanks Adam, for showing these small pieces. Where I did my machining apprenticeship here in Australia, most of my days were filled with those kinds of jobs. Mostly bushings and pulleys and everything else in between for farm machinery. We made good money making replacement parts for big name machinery as it was so expensive to buy OEM parts.
Love your channel man 👍🏻
Kinda ironic that I got an ad for Motion Industries before this video
Finish cut metal is so beautiful! Wish it could last like that forever!
14:00 As a rule, I like to rough both id and od before finishing either, eg face, drill, rough od, let it cool, finish id, face and od. Not that it's critical in all applications, but I found it doesn't take any more time to design operations this way and in some parts it helps get that crucial additional precision.
the Morey is a 12", if you pause at 32:15 you can see the plate
Adam i hope your health is good and you are feeling strong and light on your feet be well your a good man Adam.
gotta love that finish from the turning
Beautiful finish on that stub shaft!
You always do a good job Adam.
That bearing for the wood shaper, if anyone was wondering, sits on that shaft above or below the cutter. The bearing is used to follow the shape of the work or a pattern either for flush cutting to the pattern or cutting a profile into a curved piece.
Nice video. Thanks for taking us along.
Lots to enjoy, a varied video. Thanks for sharing Adam. Ant, Cid & the Pooch crew.
That 6-jaw chuck is gorgeous! I love to see it in use.
Damn that surface finish was amazing!
Those Iscar IC8250's are freakin bad ass. Excellent tool life with rouging steel with high DOC and SFM
Mr Adam Abom! I love everything you do, but I miss those monster turning projects you did from your old work. Thanks for showing the first project today, brought back that big-iron feel :)
Great post bud. Love when I worked in a job type shop. factory repetition was never a happy time for sure. That 6 jaw is a real dream my friend !
Awesome stuff man love seeing old machines
I really like and respect your attention to detail. That's a rare quality.
Nice to see some actual machining again, thanks!
I am greatful people like yourself take the time to video your work... I've learned a lot watching your video's. I subscribed a while ago. Thanks for another great video.
Adam, why didn't you use brass inserts to protect the shaft from the vise? Nicely done!
that was very ENJOYABLE ! Thanks Adam ..
Watching Lathe work is very relaxing, Great job as usual Abom
Great video! The wood warehouse machine collection was awesome! Some of those machines were absolute beasts! The wide wood slabs at the beginning of the tour were probably bubinga. The finish planed pile you commented on near the end of the tour is mahogany. I have a friend in Oxford PA who is an exotic wood dealer and they have a 60" bandsaw mill they salvaged from the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard (when the shipyard cut millions of board feet of teak for the decks of battleships and other military vessels), restored it and now a railroad tracked carrier moves gigantic logs of mahogany and other exotics past its 6" wide blade. Unbelievable machine!
Was recently reading about battleship maintenance and was somewhat surprised to learn that teak was used for a majority of the decking material.
Do you have a name for the wood dealer? I could use another place near me. I'm in Levittown Pa Oxford is only 1 1/2 hours away. The wood dealer i use is hit or miss with what i need.
Hearne's Hardwoods. They have a great website. Forget the address but u can Google them.
I know exactly which bandsaw they have. It's a Fay & Egan. They must have bought it after the auction was over. I was at the auction and it didn't sell during the initial bidding. The opening bid went down to $5.00, yes, five dollars, and no one raised their hand. It took every bit of self control I had not to buy it. I didn't have a place to put it and the rigging costs to remove it would have been well into the thousands of dollars. There was a like new Turner re-saw bandsaw that sold for $500.00. A dealer ended up with that one. There was a lot of really nice machinery that went dirt cheap at that auction. Anyway, I'm glad that the Fay & Egan found a home. I really thought that it was going to end up in the scrap yard.
@@bobsofia68 Teak is extremely rot resistant which is why it's used for marine purposes.
Another nice SNS! Makes Saturday’s worth waiting for. 😎
Thank you Adam I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa
I knew you were going to chamfer those edges. I feel like a machinist!
Good job "chuck," doin' good work.
That wood shop/store is very cool. Yes I could see you with a big live edge farm table. Have a great week.
Adam, You and this channel are the primary reason there is a lathe, drill press band saw, etc, etc... in my workroom right now.
And did you know how much golfers love gadgets? :) There's money to be made for sure! This was a very good mix of content. Great finish on those surfaces.
Nice! New toys and projects. Can hardly wait for the Norton shaper restoration video series.
Live edge slab...go see Matt Cremona....he has an abom sized sawmill you can play with...
Nice equipment trailer
I call the machine for which you made the stub shafts a Hydro AXE. Great for clearing underbrush and small trees but expensive to operate and maintain.
Adam, Nice content it going to be nice seeing the shaper in operation thanks for sharing.!.!.!..
Love the wood shop it was so clean. great video Adam
32:14 It does says 12in on that tag
Why don't shops who live in high humidity areas put a little oil or rust preventative on the piece to prevent rust?
Just a thin layer of WD-40 would be sufficient after finishing the work on the machine.
What makes you think they all don't? LOL
Since when do they dont do that?
Excelente trabajo eres inspiración para muchos que nos gustan tus vídeos . saludos León Guanajuato México.
When I was at Boeing I ran a Cincinatti convertable mill very similar to that one. I did more horizontal work with it than verticle. It was so aggrivating to tram that head in when you used it. There is a tremendous market for those types of wood. Reclaimed timbers etc....... That is a BIG warehouse.
Cant wait to see the Norton restore proj.
Great video. Great work. Thank you for sharing Adam. Love that victor.
Is your buddy going to document the restoration of that shaper? I'd love to follow along with that project...
здорово, ребята, что вы реально что-то производите руками, а не потными пальцами на экране чертей гоняете :) Я тоже делаю свою мастерскую, восстанавливаю станки, но мне до вас далеко пока :)
29:27 at first I thought you said pencil grinder, thinking that’s a pretty big machine to sharpen pencils.
Interesting video today Adam.
Your friend may be interested in some of the Black Walnut that my friend has. Let me know. Thank you.
Adam! How is not punching the clock anymore working for you? As always thanks for the great content!
Hi does your buddy lance have a channel wouldn't mind seeing a restoration of that shaper thanks
WOW loved all the Machines. I didn't know THOMPSON made machines tools.
That shaper is in perfect desert camo
Great video and thanks for sharing! Stay Safe Guys!
When I cut my teeth as a machine shop machinery repair technician we had Barber Coleman spur gear hobs just like are shown I this video. We had a Fellows gear shaper as well. These machines were replaced with CNC technology in 1993. Your brief pan over the machines brought back memories. The small machines used non adjustable shaft V belt design for power transmission. Impossible to stretch or tension a standard V belt, they employed link V belts. Fitting link belts together under tension was a chore. The first two layers were not too bad, but the third layer was an extreme fight. Link belts are super popular on wood working machinery today to smooth out the thumping of standard V belts. I don't recall now if those Barber Coleman machines used the popular wood working red belt material, but the black mineral oil cutting fluid used on those machines had those belts black as sin when I worked on them.
Paul Hunt thanks for sharing your comment. It was interesting.
The one piece of equipment that I have not seen you utilize is a good index head. I cannot suggest an index head enough...
I have both a dividing head and a super spacer and use them when needed.
@@Abom79 I was mistaken. I haven't machined anything in years and I was thinking about an index head for cutting gear teeth.
That's one chunk of warehouse. Wow.
At 30:20, is that a furnace in the background?
Nice surface finish on those roller inserts!
I'd love to have one of these smaller shapers
That lathe looks like it wants a new home. Along with that old truck in the background. Old International or maybe Autocar?
I wish I lived closer to his warehouse. I would love to buy some of that wood. Nothing like that around me.
I was drooling when he was panning around that warehouse.
i was cleaning the output shaft on a Hydro-Ax once with emery cloth and didn't realize that i had decreased the circumference so much that i barely had to heat the bearing race to slide it on the shaft. Got to be careful with emery cloth and surface rust, its easy to take off more than you want.
Just wondering if you ever miss working on the big stuff from your old job?
I think about being back at my old job once in a while, then I take a cold shower,
and I'm back to normal again.
I miss some of the work and the machines yes, but I don't miss the frustrations of working for corporate America.
Shaper-shifting - 'there's a hole in my bucket' - dear Liza !
8 enjoyed this. Thank you for posting and teaching.
Enjoyed watching vid, those big machines were impressive and they looked like the owner had restored them. They could have been from rail, ship yards my guess.
Hey Adam, just curious, do you quote small jobs like the stub shafts on an hourly or flat rate basis ?
Some jobs I have to quote before hand, and others I can just charge the time I have in it. It’s all an hourly rate though.
Most repair shop's I've been in have a minimum charge, say 1/2 hour minimum. (some shops 1 hr. min, I've seen.) I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a "FLAT-RATE-BOOK-PRICE" for machinist work. I used to work in the autobody field, we had pre-computer's, "FLAT-RATE-BOOK-PRICE" for most operations concerning autobody work. Where a lot of people got it wrong, and probability still do, is the "FLAT-RATE" is for a repair/replacement of a "UNDAMAGED" part. Now throw in some damage, and it gets very subjective, i.e., because of the way a part is now damaged, does it need an extra 20 minutes to be added, or is it an extra 35 minutes because of the limited access to the part, because of the damage. What would the "Flat-Rate" be for a machinist to chuck up a part into a lathe, to find out if the part is running true, or is it off by a mile?
@@stanwooddave9758 The "minimum" charges are to detour people that come in wanting you to do simple tasks for free and on the spot. Those little jobs can eat away at the time that you could be spending on other good paying jobs. I'm all about helping people in need, but it's a business. We have to charge for the time we put into working. We used to have a "$10 minimum" because of those little " hey man can you get this broken bolt out for me real quick? take ya 5 minutes" Now a days that minimum has gone up, for most shops. Most places don't want to stop what they're doing to get little jobs done, and if they do then you gotta pay! Otherwise, leave it and we'll call you when it's finished.
Fortunately for my buddy's welding shop, he and I have had a very long lasting friendship, both personal and for business, so we help each other out as much as possible.
Thanks for the replies !
HI ABOM, NICE TO SEE YOU BACK AT SOME MACHNING AGEN, PLEASE CAN YOU INCLUDE A BIT MORE ON FEEDS AND SPEEDS?. REGARDS RICHARD IN THE U.K.
Love the little shaper.look nice agen ..
I have been looking for a 16" Cincy shaper for 5 years and yall dig one out of a barn? really, How do i find one of these? great video Adam.
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CNMG 431-__ (IC8250) The 2 or 3 digits after the 431 represent what chip former that insert has. 8250 is a tough general purpose grade.
Ugh... I never knew they made parallels for lathes... Well there's more tools I have to buy now. ;)
33:00 could be pieces of old growth cedar from a big west coast tree.
Great job!!!!
A slotter. Man I learn stuff here all the durn time. 😁
Always good to see lance. He is getting a nice assortment of machines. I have noticed you aren't posting any content from your day job any more if you mentioned the reason I missed it was just curious i always enjoy seeing those projects. Hope you and Abby have a great weekend!!!
@max nex Wow I missed that one must of happened when i had to step away from youtube for a few months when we had to move my wifes mother here and had to take care of a lot of stuff with her I'M sure motion hated to loose Adam but I'M happy for him!!!
Technically all of Adams videos are of his day job now that he is a full time content creator.
I have no experience in machining but I have a question regarding the difference in the the diameter between the two disks? The measurement was 1/2 thousandth larger on the disk closest to the chuck relative to the disk near the tailstock. Does that mean the tailstock was out by 1/4 a thousandth? Or some other minuscule measurement? Or was the chuck out? Could be either?
It is likely tailstock alignment, they can be tricky to keep aligned exactly due to the fact they are being loosed, moved and re tightened frequently.
I worked on a big mill like the cincinati but was a polish mill doing earth moving equipment can never remember what it was called.
Could you have tried dialing out the half thou difference using the tailstock?
You could but it should've been done when the lathe was initially set up. Its quicker to just adjust as you go if its not really dialed in.
What rpm are you running while doing the turning? Looking good
Love ur notepad on the carriage, it won't blow away
Nice job Adam
Those chuck parallels are the bee’s knees! I need a set of those!
Yeah, I've not seen those before.
Here ya go www.edgetechnologyproducts.com/chuck-stop-set/
Very good work.
26:19 woah ........little heart stoppage for a second there.
Also will we get to see the restoration of the shaper
Properly not. Lance don't make videos.
Hey Adam. Love the vids-you inspired me to build my own little bench top shop in my garage. So thank you, I’m having a ball. Question though, why don’t you have a surface grinder? I see lots of content creators have them
He had one before that he was going to rebuild but I think he got rid of it, maybe it was a bit bigger job than he wanted at the time, I'm sure he'll get another one eventually.
Adam gets some surface finishes with lathe/mill/shaper even better than what a surface grinder would provide!
Hi Adam, what is the purpose of the oil when parting the sleeve at 15:50?
its to prevent that the cutting tool and the material get to hot. the cutting tool will last longer and the chips are better, if the material gets to hot it will harden out and the cutting will get real difficult and the chips burn onto the cutting tool which will lead to tool destruction.