Это видео недоступно.
Сожалеем об этом.
Job Interview 1970 Satyajit Ray
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2015
- Job interview - script and direct by Satyajit Ray.
i sure u all find some answer - how a person know the world is not real actually it look like.
pratidawndi full movie with English subtitles:
• Video
This is a scene from Satyajit Ray’s movie “ Pratidwandi “ ( means ‘ Adversary ‘ ). This is early ‘70s during Vietnam War when the whole world was anguished with high handed ness of USA and courage shown by the Vietnamese people. Even Marlon Brando had made a movie on Vietnam called ‘ Archipelago’! Ray’s Hero is asked what is the most notable event of the Century when he says it is the courage of Vietnamese people. The Interviewer is surprised and asks is it more noteworthy than say ‘man’s landing on moon’ which he says was expected but not Vietnamese courage against USA might!! The Interviewer asks are u a Communist ? To which he gives a famous reply “ You don’t have to be a Communist to appreciate courage of Vietnamese people” !! Ray was a genius movie maker !!
Thanks for the info Sir
yes sir, He was..
Apocalypse now.
And he was rejected for this reply
Wars are won by courage and will. Vietnamese people wanted to win more than the Americans who had nothing to lose.
"Whose independence " what a message 👏 👌
Ultimate satire!!
I didn't understand what we meant by this, can you please elucidate?
@@grahitwaghe1894 Many countries gained independence from UK like India. The question from the interviewer did not specify the country, hence the question back to him was just. Also there was a fine satirical layer here towards UK's shameless effort to retain their imperialism delaying independence of so many countries they once ruled.
True! We are still slaves
Means general people didn't get independence rather they are still poor and striving for food where the place of british elites and businesses were just replaced by some indians!
Its unbelievable that when hindi cinema was making melodramatic "mele mein bichade do bhai" movies, this guy was making this.
So right!
And now
@@arkadipbanerjee6143 Bengal still has great movies
Ray 🙏
Both kinds of films are relevant and needed. Only someone who is out of touch with the world outside his own class bubble will fail to realize this truth.
This movie clip proves two things that we have lost in time-
1. Good meaningful movies.
2. Beautiful English accent.
Absolutely! I second that!
Thats a fake English accent.My dad studied at Jadavpur Univ in Calcutta.We hail from Kashmir .I showed him this clip and he said none of the accent actually is true.
@@rahulsingh-ui9tl your dad knows nothing about accent.
@@subhamukherjee7442 This accent is TRANSATLANTIC ACCENT.That was used by Radio commentators previously.Like in 80s ads.Thats a FAKE ACCENT.Slowly dropped by everyone else including Brits.Jab pata nahi ho toh muh utha ke matt aaya karo.
Facts dont care about your feelings.
@@rahulsingh-ui9tl Fact: Accent is unique to each person. Accent is an amalgamation of your exposure to different cultures, the people you grew up with, environment you grew up in and other influences..so people develop an accent over time. We are not born with it. It's very unique to a particular person and everybody has their own accent. "Translanctic" or "Indian" or any such categorical placement of an accent, I find it bizarre, yes you can have predominant influences of a particular way of speaking.. but based on that it's illogical to call it Fake or real.
The way these actors have spoken the English language is astonishing. Its so clear and well pronounced.
Fake exaggerated pronunciation.
@@sigmachad5217 whistle podu chal be lodu
Kolkata was city created by and the hub of the British East India Company. Kolkata is where the British Colonism began and thus much of Biritsh cultural influence is seen present in the Kolkata culture
How articulated these actors voice were ! Their voice are so pleasing to the ears ! Great Actors 😊👏
@Joydeep Mitra Absolutely correct brother ! I too found Dhritiman Chatterjee and the other gentleman who is in the dark shirt has quite nice intonation and well spoken.
In the movie Siddhartha didn't get this job. Its not exactly because he is a communist but because interviewer understood he is not ordinary guy. He can think and the interviewer wants a dumb guy who can work without much complain like a machine. Most of the job interviewers look for this kind of people, with skills but not much thinking power.
Which movie?
@@friendsgroup470 pratidwandi
Harsh truth
Due to this over thinking bengal is now waste Bengal !
@@punitprakhar1752 still better than a dead man's chest of gold.
Ray's movies had so many layers of meanings in them. The fact that we no longer have such movies today says a lot about present day society. While we have grown economically, we have degenerated intellectually.
Soumyakanti Chakraborty how well summarised my friend
I think we have progressed both intellectually n economically but have degenerated emotionally.
Our EQ has gone down so low that's reason there is no more movies like Ray Sirs
Very well said
Yes you are spot on. The degeneration is so painful
Khans and salim javed and sippys brought down film quality
His answer about Vietnam was so beautiful and deeply philosophical.
Finally:"The mitrocondria is the powerhouse of the cell".
I believe Ray itself is an institution where you can learn all the skills of film making, Story,Script, Dialogue delivery, Camera work, BGM, etc .We should have a dedicated world class Film University named after him (although SRFTI is there) where ppl can learn his way of film making and keep the legacy alive.
Beautiful. Satyajit Ray all the way. How well he portrayed the short sightedness, inability, cowardice, and the common ness of people selected to the chair.
Vedantt29 even now, and more so, when ppl sit across to select a person for a particular position they have already made a model of the one to be selected, if not already selected informally. Job interviews are actually a fascinating
Vedantt29 .... fascinating opportunities to bring in fresh and open minds in our systems. But we all botch that up.
Yeah..he just got rejected for praising Vietnam war over landing on the Moon(although Moon's topic is still debatable). One group says that Apollo 11 landed on moon and the other says that the photo was captured in studio as the flag was wavering. And at last he also replied that he is not a communist, btw I don't know what job has to do with someone's ideological belief. I mean, he had the knowledge and all that specifications that the job required.
Well. He put the interviewer's perspective in the most minimalist way. Communists were, and still are, a menace. Communists singlehandedly shut down 90% of factories in West Bengal. Ray was not oblivious to this. So he put a very succinct question from the interviewer's point of view. It was only natural that any interviewer would be suspicious of a candidate with leftist leanings. Ray did a brilliant job in the interview by showing up both three sides with minimalist elegance. An emotional and hopeful youth seeking a job, a cautious and conservative employer and the turbulent political background of the time.
@@Tanmay_Bhattacharya Ask those, who lost their money, business, property, assets, everything due to militant trade unionism and political violence of the communists.
What a beautiful and professional interview. Intellectual, excellent english, and that time one BSC from supposedly Calcutta University standard no less than today's standard of Masters.
Only Master? SometimedsPhD will be less for comparison..
@@souravdutta9203 just because the competition was not that much high. The population was half of what it is today. You will find more than 90% of the unemployed citizen to be at least graduate. Now everyone is pursuing PhD whereas great scientist, Satyandranath Bose didn't win a Nobel prize as he didn't have PhD degree. However he was equivalent to Einstein in terms of quantum physics and had a great contribution to the field. He even found Bose-Einstien condensate-the fifth form of matter apart from Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma in collaboration with Einstein. So, basically any degree nowadays is useless..it was also useless in the 1970s when Educated youths were unemployed..but the level of unemployment was not as much as it is today.
Only 1-2% used to get first division in madhyamik or HS
At that time teachers were educated in British period so the students got good knowledge of English. But now after left front's nasty decision of removing English as a language in primary level of education system modern generation of West Bengal lost the spark in English. I have seen that many a teachers cannot understand simple English written in office forms and as a result they cannot fill it properly.
@Tanmay Bhattacharya Bose himself was not conferred the Nobel prize while SEVEN Nobel Prizes were awarded for research related to S N Bose’s concepts of the Boson, Bose-Einstein statistics and Bose-Einstein condensate. The Nobel Committee expert Klein did not see Bose’s work worthy enough to achieve that one. Really unfortunate !!
A man,
An era,
A visionary person.
The legend of Satyajit Ray.
I have an interview tomorrow for a senior engineer role. Good thing that it popped up on my youtube recommendation, now I am prepared for what's the most significant event of the last decade.
did u clear it bro?
Same here bro 😂
Did you tell them the most significant event of the 2010s was the war in Vietnam?
@@Troikatsi in the final stage now. tomorrow is the final round!
Updated please
He was legend, no doubt. Even after 50+ years, this interview is so relevant and heart touching to me. Questions, answers, pause, expression, camera movement, zooming- all hardly say it is a movie, rather a footage of an interview.
Wow..is all I could say after watching this scene. I cannot fathom the artistic and intellectual depth of Mr. Ray, just to say what a fine Director would be gross understatement.
One can watch this interview seen again and again and admire Ray's brilliance. There can never be another Satyajit Ray for sure.
Its unfortunate that we will never have another Satyajit Ray again. Simply because the society has been dumbed down to even remotely again try to develop such a fine specimen again
You rarely get to hear people speaking in this fashion now a days!!
this was a treat to the ears.
So what? Why should an Indian care about English accent?
@@wethepeople6869 Why care about the colour of garments you wear then?
@@argon_4444 আঁতেল দের ঔপনিবেশিক মানুষিকতা মজ্জায় মজ্জায় রয়েছে। হ্যাঁ কোনও ভাষা একটু properly উচ্চারণ করলে শুনতে একটু ভালো লাগে এই যা কিন্তু একটি বিদেশী ভাষার উচ্চারণ এর ভঙ্গিমার সাথে বুদ্ধিমত্তা, intellect কে যুক্ত করাটা শুধু বোকামি ই নয় বরং অবচেতন স্তরে সেই বিদেশী culture টির সামনে নিজের প্রকৃত পরিচয় এর সম্পর্কে inferiority complex কেই মেলে ধরা হয়। বিশেষ করে কলকাতার urban culture এর মধ্যে এই inferiority complex টি অত্যন্ত বেশী চোখে পড়ে কারণ এটি একটি বৃটিশ নির্মিত সংস্কৃতি। কত european দেশ english উচ্চারণ তো দূর english কেই কোনও বিশেষ মর্যাদা দেয় না। বুঝতে পারি যে গোলামীর রেশ তো থেকে যাবেই , colonialism প্রভাবিত শিক্ষা ব্যবস্থাই তো চলে এসেছে বিগত 70 বছর ধরে। কত উচ্চশিক্ষিত ব্যক্তি ই নিজের রাজ্যের উচ্চারন এর টান অনুযায়ীই ইংরেজি উচ্চারন করে কোনও দ্বিধাবোধ ছাড়াই, কিন্তু কত শিক্ষিত আঁতেল রয়েছে যাদের সবই শেখানো গেলো শুধু ভারতীয়তা ছাড়া।
@@wethepeople6869 English please
United Independent Bengal is the answer, that's the only future for Bengals greatness again. From science, culture, arts, philosophy, let's do all the research, everything in Bengali in Bengal. 💪👍
This is real indian old accent , and I think it's the best ✌️
One of the most powerful scenes from the history of cinema ..
Thanks for uploading this interview.
Watched this movie in the 1990s on DD one Sunday afternoon. This interview remained etched in my memory.
What a lovely answer.
Yes what a lovely answer.
Movie name plz
@@debajitsen4944 mahanagar
@@debajitsen4944 sorry
It is prtidwandwi
It gives me chills even today after watching this interview session which our seniors went through back in those days
Class act !Having had a fleeting but memorable acquaintance with Sundor-da(Dhritiman) and his wife Ammu once upon a time, I know for a fact that the accent was never a fake.Nothing about him is.
And todays interview starts with - Tell me something about yourself and then what was the pay grade you used to get on your last company ? Why you left ?
Tell us where you want to see yourself in the next 10years ? Why should we hire you ???
After this interview, these questions I said sounds so irrelevant. 😄
Well if you watch this movie there is another interview scene where stupid and infuriating questions are asked. Like " What is the weight of the moon?". So...there you go.
@@samrat447 Hahahahah Haan ota barabari 😆
@@DebBan To that question Sidhartha asks " Chander ojon?...The interviewer answers solemnly " Yes the weight of the moon" Sidhartha goes...In bangla..." Taar shathe eyi chakrir ki shomporko?"
@@samrat447 what does that mean?
Let me correct you all a little bit, the question about Moon's weight was from a different movie from Satyajit Roy, search "Job interview scene from Satyajit Ray's 'The Middle Man' (1975)".But yes it was from the same trilogy, Pratidwandi (The Adversary) (1970),Seemabaddha (Company Limited) (1971) & Jana Aranya (The Middleman) (1976) all 3 are classic Masterpeice
...the english dialogues and their pronunciation, wow, superb the writer is so eloquent
The present generation culture is lost in the alley of technological labyrinth. Our culture represents what we had 50s, 60s & 70s.
I doubt what are we even gonna pass to our future generations .... culture we have lost... 'Aesthetic appeal of nature' we are loosing every day.... purity of language we have left behind......and art or an attribute called 'handmade', remains confined for wealthy strata because middle and lower class have no time for thinking how they are making the word - 'bearing', a synonym of living!
@@mystical_peace That's the fleeting nature of existence but the same technology has preserved artform through which we can look back and Marvel on anachronistic zeitgeist
In the Balachander’s movie AAKALI RAJYAM, Kamal Hassan gets interviewed by the panel, and his attitude will be similar. Must have been inspired by this
such a well spoken English ..modern india is rotting with Bollywood actors..but Calcutta and old india is real india..now these politicians want to change india to Bharat ..there is a beauty in British india and post independence era
"Whose independence?"
Just fireball !!
I thought he would say "mitochondria is the Power House of the cell"
haha same
This was the opening sequence of the film "Pratidwandi" ("The Adversary", also sometimes known as "Siddhartha and the city"). This was Dhritiman Chatterjee's (the interviewee in the video) debut movie. His character's name was Siddhartha Chatterjee in the film.
The final scene in the movie has a bird's call which Satyajit Ray recorded for real in a forest many years before shooting this film and used it here.
Just amazing acting
Siddharta Chowdhury
That answer about Vietnam... It was amazing
Nice scene. It has all the elements of a good movie. Good actors, good script, Great camera work, great direction.
The scene where the protagonist is delivering a soliloquy on Vietnam war, the camera panned in effortlessly, unlike the other Bollywood movies. I saw such camera work and direction in Godfather movies!
My god this was a brilliant conversation for a movie interview.
I have been overwhelmed by their outstanding conversation what a transparent pronunciation and cristal accent. They spoke like native speakers. Undoubtedly they were well educated people. from my perspective they deserve compliment.
I come back here quite often. I don't know how many people I should praise for putting together this masterpiece
The gentleman man on the left actually admires him but the one in the middle doesn't. Remarkable acting.
And The vietnam war was the nail in the coffin....
@@hbkgogs33 interviewers, especially at that time, at that socio political situation, obviously didnt like a freethinking interviewee who speaks his mind.
@@zil1832thats not the point here,his answer was factually wrong and biased towards communism,it was clearly a trick question and he fell for it by exposing his ideological bias by giving that answer....which was wrong in the first place
@ferzy09 Yes indeed. Political inclination did matter and Ray probably highlights the same.
Who the hell we are to rate about this ,the fact is its all time masterpiece...
Wuss
Drink some water.
@@Rumiesque Khub bhalo jabab!!!!
the beauty of Queens English in the last generation who thought it and spoke it well.
had to be in West Bengal too :))
Ray knew what world will be like in 50 years!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ray manei chorom level er 'Ket', Style, Class... so much ahead of time... isshhh.... aajker juge keu jodi 1% of Ray hote parto...
Deeply meaningful movie. Whose independence ? was a piercing counter question for which interviewer probably was not prepared or he was not expecting it. Communist movement was gathering momentum in Bengal in those days and an intellectual like Ray could not dissociate himself from it. There is an enigma attached to Satyajit Ray, whether he really supported communism in it's Russian version where trade unions once rule the roost.
Dhritiman Chatterjee made his acting debut in this film.
Let that sink in.
Can you please suggest me the name of the movie !!
@@RonyBanerjee007 Pratidwandi
@samrat thanks
Wow, the interview candidate was brilliant! I hope he found a great job where he was appreciated !
This kind of deep intellectual dialogue, you will only get in Bengali movies, particularly in Satyajit Ray movies....
Its incredible that these actors, who do not have the access to constant streaming of content spoken by native English speakers as we do today thanks to the deregularized telecom industry, spoke the language with such finesse almost like it is their second nature. For God's sake, their diphthongs are on point- a feature rarely found in Indian languages.
Because the closer (back in time) you go towards Independence, the only English Bengalees knew was correct English, not Indianised English
@@UpasanaSengupta24294 well said ... Ur comment is underrated
Heard about the term decoloniality vis-a-vis ngugi, the African scholar? It talks about ways in which the sacrosanct contours of English language and its enunciatory fields are to be deconstructed by the natives of erstwhile colonial nations to dismantle their status quo. Here speaking English in a Caribbean way or a indianized way is actually a tool to reclaim agency and to rewrite the Masters (colonial) lingo in newer ways... Gayatri Spivak often uses indianized versions of words (iskul) to a Western audience just to dismantle the status quo of the white master.
@@swayamdiptadas22 Spivak is garbage.
@@swayamdiptadas22 Speak the accent one is comfortable in, however mispronouncing words is childish.
Admiring Vietnamese and a year later Bangladesh did something similar. Great movie by the way. Still relevant today.
To think someone comparing war in Vietnam with a skirmish with a failure of a country where the actual war was fought by Bangladesh's neighbour...
@@ElDurdanta obviously Vietnamese are better because they taught a good lesson to the big neighbor who helped them during war but tried to dominate later. And Bangladesh is yet to teach it.
@@farhan1979 That was a very stinging and apt reply my friend 😂
@aghori sadhu Do not reply. They are the greatest traitors.এরা ভারতের সিনেমা দেখে ,গান শোনে আবার ভারতকেই গালাগালি দেয়।বাংলা সাহিত্য ,সিনেমা কোনো কিছুতেই এদের কোনো অবদান নেই। জাতীয় কবিটাও আমাদের থেকে ধার করা।
But it was shot during 1970 a year before Bangladesh was liberated. Btw why Vietnam war was more preferable is answered in this scene by Siddhartha. Simply, it was the exhibition of courage and bravery by the peasants who had no warfare skills, no artillery, no armaments. And one do not needs to be a Leftist to admire that but needs to be a keen observer which he might have acquired as he was a student of medicine and we need keen observation skills to understand biology.
Splendid.... Where has the such Cinema gone....
The best past of that video is the part when the question came -"Are you a communist"..this has created a illusion of mind reading of the audience.
Watch this film if you can. It's the part of Satyajit Ray's Calcutta Trilogy which consists of three films:
1.Pratidwandi,
2.Seemabaddha
3.Jana Aranya
All of them are great works. Something which is most fascinating about this trilogy is an ambiguous Black/Dark humour!!!
@@subhankardas3064 Totally agree with you, although all 3 are gems,my most favoutire is Jana Aranya, then Seemabaddha.I specially like the starting scene of Seemabaddha where the Protagonist narrates about himself while going to his office(great voice).
What were ray's politics?
@@anormalguy511 Sorry?? Could you please elaborate what you want to know??
@@subhankardas3064
What were his political views?
That accent ❤️❤️
Mitochondria: "Ah shit, here we go again"
"An interview is a chance to
leave a lasting impression,
so always bring your best
self "
- Arianna Huffington.
"The key to a successful
interview is preparation,
confidence, and the ability
to adapt."
- Sheryl Sandberg.
Ray was far far ahead of his time and his genius was unique. No other filmmaker in India could think of making films on thw subject which he chose to make..Ray was the son of legendary poet Sukumar Ray and part of his early education was in Shantiniketan when Tagore was still alive. These factors must have shaped his sense of art, literature and finally coupled with his own genius, Ray was a rare personaity ...
Wow would love to watch this movie looks so engaging. Thanks a lot for sharing otherwise wouldn't have known about this brilliant film.
Beautiful piece. Fantastic watch. Great message.
then there was at least patience in every educated person to listen to the other side... which lead to fruitful conversation. I know it's predecided dialogue but still, there was an opinion to someone that educated. nowadays technology made us impatient enough that we do think we are wasting our time doing random things. why?
Thank you for sharing your support.
"Joto din jabe tumi bujhte parbe je tomar moddhe kono gun nei, othocho sheta toh shotti naa".
Ray's movies has got unique approach to be relatable and realistic and this dialogue of Pratidwandi is the proof.
The questions are top notch & answers too.
Pratidwandi was very intriguing, the ending was something i couldn't understand when i first saw it. now after graduating i see what it meant. the dilemmas the protagonist faces in every moment of the film is the real adversary.
apologies for my incoherent gibberish
For a moment I thought I was watching a Hollywood movie
Their accent is so good that at first glance no one can say it's a Bengali film.
Mrinal Sen is really a legendary director
The accent is waooooo .
This video certified how much political this movie is.... Though embedded inside thin layers and most probably could not be identified by many below a certain intellect level, still politics played a major and subtle role in contemporary Bengali movies by the masters. It proves a man of his stature can not be apolitical towards his art!
The movie is based on a novel by Sunil Gangopadhyay which also has this same question in almost verbatim. Of course books of that time reflected the political environment of the country and the world and naturally cinemas based on the same books would also represent that.
Never having seen a Satyajit Ray's film is like never having seen The Sun or The Moon
What a dialogue what a logic what an acting. Satyajit is the god of filmmaking.
Glad someone uploaded this scene. Kudos to the uploader 😌
Whose Independence Sir? He literally shat on the imperialistic British empire with that..Epic
❤️❤️🏆🏆🥇🥇✌🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽This is simply a class apart..... unbeatable.... evythg...... the film, the actor, the director n the dialogues.
Ray was way ahead of his times ✔️ 💯.
Salute to him.
the beautiful English he spoke bereft of colonial English accent but carrying the subtilty of Hindi/Bengali is so soothing. Over years we have forgot to talk slowly. the melody of our mother tongues are lost. We have become more aggressive. Thus, this tone-deaf accent we have got.
Super movie pratidwandi ,superb acting by dhritiman , superb direction by great director satyajit Ray। I have seen this movie 50+ times।
Outstanding 💖 💫 👌🏾.... everything..... the movie, the director, the actor n the dialogues. Salute to the great satyajit Ray.... he was a visionary way ahead of his times. 👍🏾🙏🙏🙏.... no amount of words can n will be ever enough to describe the man n his work. 💯🏆🥇🥈🥉🏅🎖️
The first and only time an interviewer will ask, "What is a mitochondria?"
"Medicine heals the doubts
as well as diseases."
- Karl Marx, German born
philosopher, political
theorist, economist...
"Cinema is always a
political art, at the end."
- Pablo Larrain.
Thank you for uploading this :)
till few decades after Independence, Indians were in habit of speaking English in British accent because they had seen british people speaking that way. Today we don't speak like that.
Especially in that time-specific British dialect, had it been today, all we'd be left with probably is 'Oi mate, its the bloody bri'ish accent'!!
But it's far better "You know.. You know... in between each sentences"!!
Even today's working class British people don't have that elegance, forget about today's India.
My pranam to Dhritiman Chatterjee! I love to watch you!
Real professional interview 👍
This is the actual standard of Satyajit Ray movie .. ordinary people can't understand....
Interview scene in Akali rajyam is inspired from this scene i think...
Last question striking me every time.I wonder what I will answer in same situation? Heart says Vietnam War mind moon landing. A masterpiece by master ray.
Well if you say Vietnam War then you won't get the job and neither did Sidhartha in this movie.
If your aim is to crack the interview then
You must say "moon landing"
Otherwise you can say "Vietnam war"
Dhritiman was really a gem in this movie
Those who blame Communism, must watch this film
@@wrongsubtitles4176 it was. That's why you should watch it
Movie name plx
@@debajitsen4944 Pratidwandi
Outstanding movie! Listen to the communication! It was perfect! Now a days, in Bengali movies we could hardly see actors speaking English with this perfection!
So English is very important to you...
She didn't mean that. Moreover, it depends on the needs. This film was picturised at a time when this accent was popular, unlike today.
The violent scene at the end of this movie(Pratidwandi) is epic!
It’s a pity that I won’t be able to learn the art of weaving a story personally from this man anymore. Not unless I get a Ouija Board
Just watched the falcon heavy launch
And got this suggestion
Where the interview talks about moon landing
Such a strong scene.👍
Communication between all was very high quality English....
This is the Bengali actor Dhritiman Chatterjee in the movie Pratidwandi. ❤️
Actor is handsome
classic interview 🙏
Excellent ⚡⚡
War of words 👍
So old movie but strong enough to catch up interest.
A pure art of Ray
Those camera angles are gold
This kind of movies will not be made anymore
Fact is bitter but it’s gives peaceful mind..
Thanks for presenting it.
Bengal was land of conflicts
British came
Glorious Bengal
Partition
British went
Bengal became land of conflicts
I salute the great director! But - I differ with some of what is said here...well, reaching the moon was an amazing achievement, and was a positive and creative development. As for the bravery of the Vietnamese, we have just been witness to the achievements of Pakistan, Taliban, etc. They were "courageous" and "tenacious" too - but I'm not sure too many people admire them...
Vietnam was a communist country and USA don't want to see more communist country and so they went to capture Vietnam but they got defeated and in case of Pakistan and Afghanistan, they attacked first so that's nothing courageous