James Hetfield On The Dave Mustaine Scene In "Some Kind Of Monster"
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- James Hetfield On The Dave Mustaine Scene In "Some Kind Of Monster"
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Mustaine getting kicked out was one of the best things to happen in metal. It spawned Megadeth and introduced to us decades of great Kirk Hammett riffs and solos.
You mean almost 4 decades of the same wahhh effected pentatonic solo? Great is a strong word lol...
Dave was a monster on the guitar I was a die hard fan of metallica but I can't deny Dave was a God on the guitar kirk was taught by Joe Satriani and still can't keep up sadly
Nah.. with Mustaine, they would have been even bigger. Kirk is a barely above average player.
Honestly it was more about the musicians Mustaine brought to Megadeth that made the band great.
@@decayingcorpse-xv Dave was smart getting kick ass musicians to flesh out his vision, but he was on fire himself as a songwriter & musician on the early Megadeth albums.
Dave: no warning no second chance?
also Dave: Megadeth currently listed at 26 former members
LOL i swear dave has had a revolving door of guitarists in megadeth for the same reason metallica muted the bass on and justice for all... its like a subconcious thing
Didn't Dave get two chances from metallica.
It's quite a scene. You can really feel something as you're watching it.
Yes, yes my butt cheeks vibrating as I fart. In all seriousness, I don't think we'll ever know the full story. They were all raging on alcohol back then. And we only know for sure that Dave broke some guys leg in one incident and almost killed the band while driving in another, I'd really like to know if it was the alcohol or just two many cooks in the kitchen.
Well, I think Dave's 17 or so subsequent trips to rehab, drug overdose, and non-stop drama with numerous, ever changing band members can probably give you a few clues. Lol.
@irishmetalfan Came to say this.
It sucks how these two bands are forever going to be compared and linked to each other. It's the most bizarre thing between two bands ever. It's also a shame how fans feel the need to pick a side and or bash the other. I like both, I win!
I agree with you and also like both. But In my opinion you can't compare the two. Metallica is on another level. There are one of the biggest bands ever. Megadeth is just a good band With good songs.
@@jmfernelius I agree. I like Metallica more. In my opinion Metallica is the best band of all time! I feel that way for many reasons. But the whole picking a side and trash talking is ridiculous. I never understood why people can't like both bands!? And, the "only Megadeth" fans are the worst! They are insufferable babies!
Especially when they sound nothing alike. And they're both awesome
You can thank mustaine for that
@@jmaynez2332 Maybe in the early days but there is a certain section of his fanbase that takes it to a whole new level
Dave proved to metallica that he wasn't useless and could play and write music BUT he also proved Metallica were right to fire him as he's impossible to work with
Metallica never say that Dave is useless, they only got sick with his aggressive behavior
Honestly James is as much to blame as anyone. It’s always a power trip to him. Look what he did to Newsted.
Metallica never said he couldn’t play and write music. That’s not what he needed to prove to them. All he really needed to prove was that he could handle his alcohol.
Dave admits that he was hard to work with bc of his alcohol use but it nvr had anything to do with his skill bruh. It’s well documented and he actually admitted many times. Personally…I’m glad they split bc I couldn’t imagine a world without megadeth.
I think if he had his second chance he would've stayed and Metallica would've been even better.
Cool thing to see James say this. Dave actually said he respects and likes James more than Lars. He thinks Lars is a sneaky shit for what he was trying to do with the No Life Til Leather boxset.
From an interview I read in German Dave not only expressed outrage over Lars trying to sneak his name on song writing credits but that royalties from Kill’em All were going to Hammett and not him. I can see his frustrations with this because his name appears on two albums for songwriting credits and not for Leper Messiah on Master of Puppets and he was never asked to be part of the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. And it was on Lars insistence, not James, that only members who performed on albums be part of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Even Newsted called bullshit on this knowing full well that Mustaine was one of the key reasons Metallica even got off the ground.
So Lars goes out of his way to make sure Metallica uses the man’s music, all the way into the third album without crediting him for Leper Messiah, and not pay him royalties for his music, and years later try and sneak his name on music he certainly wouldn’t have been able to have written at the time. I can certainly understand why there was and always will be friction between him and Lars. It’s naive to think he should just sit back not say something as the band you were once in becomes the biggest band on the planet and you were part of that nucleus only to be told without words in the press “We’re using the music you told us not to use and we’re not allowing you in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”. Gee. I wonder why there’s resentment.
Bingo couldn't put it better myself.
People only care because Dave is famous though, loads of bands had an ex member write a few songs on their early stuff and noone cares.
If Dave didn't make a big deal out of it noone would talk about it.
He helped write a few songs in the bands embryonic stages.
And he never wrote anything for leper messiah, theirs a reason he's had to just "claim" he did and couldn't take it further. He wanted to destroy Metallica and their credibility he would have said anything.
He's done very well but he has exaggerated his importance in metallica over the years. He really was just a hired hand who helped write a few song. Him and his fans really need to move on
@@imagereflection4826 No people care because he is responsible for the bands sound, teaching James how to play and coming up with the most iconic riffs in the genre... Also without his songs they wouldn't have an album to record. For 40 years he has continued to be the most innovative and creatively important person in the genre.
@@PhantomDeth He alone is not responsible for the bands sound, James, Lars and Dave are responsible and he didn't teach James when James already had 3 songs before Dave joined with his 2 songs.
And if they had more time they would have had more songs he wrote 4, James wrote 5 add the bass solo and a diamond head cover they would have had enoughf or an album, albeit a shorter one.
James's riffs are just as iconic as Dave's
@@imagereflection4826 Having songs from a previous hard rock band doesn't mean he knows how to play guitar.. Lars didn't know shit about guitar or how to play anything.. Mustaine did all that in the first album.. James didn't play guitar live until late 1982.. Singer only.. But sure he wrote 3 songs lol.. Despite wanting to be a singer and to sound like Rob Halford.. Totally.. Mustaine wrote half the first album.. Period.. Without the songs they have no first album and no record deal.. This is a fact.. Which means they would probably release in 1984 when they had replaced those songs without them and I highly doubt they would have been as impactful as they still struggled to write without Mustaine on RtL.. Escape being a fine example of that.. Still playing his solos on the songs they used there to. Were all rather tired of Metallica fanboys trying to diminish Mustaines role in the early days of the genres forming.. Objective truth is always going to win against fanboyism.
I just celebrated 14 years yesterday, addiction takes absolute control over a person and can understand both sides of this situation
Thats alot of yrs..
Congrats! Keep fighting the good fight.
People need to understand, especially the ones who say that Megadeth is amazing and now we have 2 awesome bands which is true and therefore Dave shouldn't be salty - even today, after all this time and the accomplishments of Megadeth which is basically a solo project of his, Dave would probably prefer to be in Metallica. He'd throw away it all if a magical Jini appeared and offered him to go back in time and behave differently so that he stayed in Metallica. That's incredibly tough to live with. He has a mental image of Lars, James and Cliff in his head, they were a family for him and he never treated band members in Megadeth like that for a reason.
Yea I don't think people realise that Dave loves metallica and it's members and felt betrayed and bitter it's very mixed emotions. Some of his fans however seemed to have inherited this bitter metallica hate and flaunt it at any opportunity
Totally. I would go one further and say that if James and Lars ever made the unlikely decision to ask him to rejoin, he'd give it some serious thought.
Ultimately, though, whether you go back in time or to the present, Dave Mustaine in Metallica wouldn't work long term because he'd clash too much with James and Lars over the music. They'd have ended up like the Eagles of thrash metal.
"Creating future by not recreating a past" - that should be a guideline for mankind.
The reason Dave is extra emotional here is because this scene took place on September 12, 2001... I wish more people knew that
STILL CANT HEAR THE BASS
And they did know about bass at the time
and there were
equalizers you can get
at the time
wait
still can get them .
It all boils down to Dave loved Metallica!!
That’s a great point that I don’t think I’ve heard before. It wasn’t just a band to him.
Dave got kicked out, started a new band that was so good it's one of the Big 4. So Far So Good So What ended up being an EP because they were too strung out to create more songs, while Metallica would blow the lid off with Justice shortly after. Dave's downfalls are his own doing. Recovering from that and making Rust was an incredible feat and I love both bands .
What's this closure you speak of...??? and where can I find it???...cause it's a mystery to me.
James stops himself at 0:13 from saying “If we would’ve known about it, he’d still be in Metallica”
Good detailed observation
They would have been an unstoppable force in metal if Mustaine continued in Metallica.. add in Cliff too. How many musical masterpieces would have been created?? Mustaine Hetfield Burton songwriting domination!!
I’m not sure how long the three strong personalities would have coexisted.
@@jozefk.7720 I agree… Lars and James both have strong personalities… but they balance each other out… throwing a third wheel in throws that off
Truth Cliff wanted him out so yes he would have been a goner. Kirk and Cliff were a better duo in my opinion because Kirk was a sponge who learned and Dave had ego issues.
Life is full of ups and downs - one day you find things are shit and wonder how in the hell you are going to move forward. Most people find a way, but some unfortunately don't. The thing I find interesting about Dave is despite what happened all those years ago he is quite prepared to let a member go for the benefit of his band.
I wish MORE of my old music friends woulda come to AA or NA or SA! None of wanted to hear that stuff but my god at least Im still here! So many music friends never made it. Fully agree w James here. 🌅💯🎸
Where is this interview available?
James’s audio.
Does anyone know where this clip of James speaking is from?
I was literally in kindergarten when Dave was kicked out of Metallica. My parents did not listen to heavy metal. I had no idea about Metal until I was 12 in the late 80s,. By then, Metallica and Megadeth were established, successful bands with their own identities, so much so that I was shocked to find out Dave Mustaine was ever in Metallica. Dave stands on his own as a legend in his own right. I don't think he gives himself enough credit.
Whats the original video that this clip is from?
Dave, the Vegeta of thrash metal.
To this day, I don't think Dave is fully over being kicked out of Metallica. I do think he's a lot better about it now, though.
Time is a great healer and I think he's had both more than enough time and success with Megadeth to be over it now.
One shouldn't recreate the past, but to forget it? No fucking way!
I love Metallica. I grew up in the Bay Area and partied at the El Cerrito house a few times with the band. I must say kicking Dave out of Metallica was an act of God (melodramatic). I feel it set a fire of rage in Dave that he, by force channeled into his brutal assault of music of which was completely different to Metallica. Dave took his own destructive course in life while creating and writing some of the best thrash-tech music out there. I remember thier show at the Stone on Broadway when all of them were Killin it maxed out insane. Great memories to be sure. Dave cemented his legacy. He's a brilliant musician. I understand his anger of his music being scooped into Metallicas third album. His music is more than complex and sends many messages.....🤘🤘🤘
Agreed w this! I think getting kicked out by James lit a fire that fueled Dave his entire life. I still think there are more good Megadeth songs than Metallica.
@@jnande3 I agree I mean yeah the way they kicked him out wasn't cool. I think the issue is that Lars is totally Type A personality.
Dave needs to let it go. He’s an icon in his own right. He should be proud of his accomplishments. I’m grateful they kicked him out. We got 2 great bands out of it.
Why do I feel like James' always avoids giving any real answer when it comes to questions about Dave? It's always some vague tow the line answer when it comes to him.
Because Dave is his nemesis; even though he was the lead guitarist in Metallica, he had enough showmanship to outshine Hetfield, and, at one point, Mustaine physically kicked his ass (if I remember correctly, a judo throw).
Metallica is that ex that dumped Dave that he will never get over. In the press he’s always hatful and hopeful they will get back together and do something.
Team St. Anger ✊️
What's funny to that scene is that Lars reached out to Dave when James wasn't sure he'd be in the band anymore. Then Dave guilt tripped the hell out of Lars lmao.
Good point
Actually Lars was holding his face like not this shit again, I've hearing it for the past 30 years LOL
@@truthhurts79 more like 39
“Diva” Dave
It's not surprising Dave was still somewhat salty about being kicked out of literally the most successful metal band of all time
We can say that knowing what we know now, but for all purposes, Megadeth is def a solid #2 worldwide (IMO) and as James has said in the past, he has accomplished so much, how can he not see it? Dave was in that band for 11 months and yeah helped write some “classic” Metallica songs, BUT….
He is still only a footnote in their history, and had he not been in an equally as good metal band? Dave Mustaine would be regarded as much as Hugh Tanner, or Ron McGoveney.
@@GRAVESTONE-USA Agree with you 100% bro, Rust in Peace is my favourite metal album ever Dave has definitely done extremely well with Megadeth but at the end of the day he never made as much financially as he could have or got the worldwide recognition he would have got with Metallica so that's always gonna sting to some degree, saying that tho we got a shit ton of great albums from both sides so the fans win in the end haha would have been great to hear Dave's lead guitar and song writing with James vocals tho got to admit.
He wasn’t kicked out of the most successful band of all time. He was kicked out of a fledgling club band on the verge of recording its first album. Metallica’s path would have been different with Dave.
The thing is Dave wasn't the only drinker. There's a reason why they were called "Alcoholica" in their early years. Dave's will was just the one that lost against James and Lars's wills.
It's not all about drinking, Dave had said "When we drank they got silly, and I got mean." You can't have a person in a band that's going to be flipping out and stabbing you anytime they get drunk. Dave needs therapy, he needed it then when he was in the band.
Wah wah wah Dave Mustain needs to stop ever whining about anything . Megadeth is one of the biggest metal bands ever sold millions, he's rich and famous and his addiction robbed somthing from him in his youth but he got it all back immediately. I've never felt aninch sorry for Dave. He is a legend and it all worked out for him.
Its not about that, Id liken it to his purpose in life being taken away and then his spot being filled by another. Everyone has a purpose in life whether you love it ot hate it the path is yours but he felt his destiny was taken away even though megadeth was his destiny, metallica os where he thinks his heart and soul was to be but it didn't happen
But his life's work was always to get revenge on Metallica by being bigger than them and he never will... Mustaine said this himself about revenge
I have to agree. Just finished his autobiography, everything wrong in Megadeth was someone else's fault, band members or management ect. Everything after was Metallica's fault. Jesus the guy created Megadeth fs just be happy with that.
James is really pragmatic in saying that if he knew about AA back then Dave would know and they wouldn't of had to tell him. It's just that wasn't the case and Dave chooses to live in the past.
Words of a wise man,at some point he wasnt so wise.glad its better now
Yeagh-agh, that was a good scene! /w\/w\
It's 2022 now..when was Dave kicked out of Metallica? 1983 yeah almost 40 years ago
I felt laughter
U KNOW
To me one of the main differences between james and dave is: Dave has a lot of hate when speaking to the press about metallica, while james is much more cool and constructive.
He wouldn’t have spoke the way he did if Metallica didn’t end up the biggest band this world has ever scene.
Well, duh. He feels like being part of the biggest band the world has ever seen was taken away from him.
We all have our takes on right or wrong. Bottom line is obvious Dave was/is a great guitar player,and wrote majority of killer riffs people say no. Well listen to early Metallica songs he left riffs and songs changed. Yet Megadeths formula stayed the same.
I like them both for sure. Coulda shoulda woulda don't matter, lucky to have both bands in my/our era.
If they changed their style I can assure you it was done without even a seconds thought for Dave mustaine the same can't be said the other way round though.
Lars and James had Metallica's sound before Dave joined
Love how James avoids traps Like mustaine still tries To get him into.. Like James talk about me comment on me man, notice me. James.
I love their music but man dave doesnt Respect himself so he in interviews still try To get peolpes attetion which he truly doesnt need I mean he wrote as good great stuff as James. Period stop dave already 2022
I should add that as a fan for more than 30 years of both bands, Metallica being my favorite, Metallica fans are insufferable fools when it comes to this topic.
I placed myself in everyone’s shoes to try and get what that mindset would’ve been like. I don’t blame them for kicking Mustaine out. Hell even Mustaine admits that it was toxic. But saying Mustaine is “just butthurt” is refusing to recognize how significant Lars and James thought his music was that they wanted to use his music all the way into their third album.
Megadeth fans are just as toxic claiming Dave invented their sound and wrote all their songs it's a total lie and takes away from other people who worked hard.
And there is absolutely no proof they used his stuff on their third album just a very suspect flakey claim
"He focking left the band! Period! Exclamation point!"
Srał Hcirlu, drummer of Acillatem
Dave needs to let it go, he went on to do great things on his own and he should be proud of that.
Even if he tried, he's constantly reminded of it by interviewers and idiotic Metallica fans.
@Manish Mims Even if he did, you would remind him.
@Manish Mims He will always have co-writing credit with Metallica. and Lars called Mustaine to be in Some Kind of Monster. You ignore that because you're idiotic like I stated above.
Dave punched the shit out of Hetfield.
LMAO were you there. THis old shit is funny as hell. Like are you turned on by it or something. It is weird
@@rycor9117Lol you sound more hurt over it than Hetfield. He lost a fight, it happens. Too bad he bullied Jason later and Dave wasn't there.
It was more than that why he got kicked. The punch, the drugs and being violent when drunk were surely contributing factors, but the main reason was because it was Lars and James band, not Dave's. They had their vision and Dave wanted to do things his way.
@@rm1042James kicked Dave's dog that's why he punched his ass. Makes sense to me really
Dave should try working the steps.
James is Canadian? Aye?!
about Dave punching james
you ll think that James's Viking like would have broken him in two
but that little badass Mustaine truly got that Simon Belmont might about him
I love both bands - I prefer Metallicas music as I am more than just a thrash head. James and the band have moved on - Dave has always seems to have these issues with band members. A long line of them in fact. Love Daves music but damm man - be happy for once Metallica is the big band and they have a plethora of musical tastes I am glad they explored.
Not really a long line of them. Just, his problems were never extinguished. I'm saying this as a Megadeth fan although saying that, I have bias.
@@communist5813 I love em both and try to stay out of the hate but Dave seems to have issues. At least your a cool Deth fan - Some of you guys are as bad as Dave at letting stuff go and want you to make a choice on bands - I am always like hell no I love them both and always will.
Good day to you man one metal fan to another \m/
@@rycor9117I think you’re right, Dave has some issues. I’m a Megadeth fan and I can say he is kinda weird about the Metallica thing, there are times when he says he loves them but sometimes he hates them. For example, around the time they did the Big 4 concert (2010) he seemed to have a good relationship with them, but if you watch interviews of Dave from around 2007 and 2008 he talks a lot of shit about them.
Didn’t know what AA was, yet dubbed yourselves ‘Alcoholica’ shortly after.
Forty-some years later, in recovery yourself, but selling whiskey?
I have this strange feeling that Dave wouldn’t have been so salty about Metallica if they didn’t still use Dave’s music/riffs after Dave left the band. I’d be salty too if I got kicked out of a band and then they essentially stole my music too.
He'd probably still complain if they tried to erase him completely from their history.I bet he'd rather have the royalty cheque every year than nothing.....
He said he'd be angry no matter what happened. He helped write a few Metallica songs it's not uncommon in music. Nothing stolen.
And he makes more kmey from those few royalties anyway
@@imagereflection4826 Nothing stolen? If you tell your neighbor he can't use your power tools and your neighbor comes over and takes them anyway. That's stealing. Dave said please don't use my songs and they did anyway. Just because Metallica gives him money doesn't make it right. Like just because your neighbor came over and gave you money for using your tools doesn't make it right that he took them without your permission.
@@donkarnage6032 It is different though as Dave bought those songs to Metallica essentially submitting them as the bands work especially when some of them were collaborative works so when the band were signed those songs belong to the band Metallica and the label.
Dave was fired weeks before recording their debut and their is no way a label would have allowed the band to postpone to write a few more songs,they covered the legalities and as Dave submitted the songs to the band and that they were collaborations it is not stolen.
He had the right to use his riffs in his own work which he did anyway.
Many bands have had ex members who wrote stuff for a band, people only care in this case because Dave has made his feelings heard on matter for a long time
All you posers really don’t get it, do ya? Everyone wants to bash Lars when he’s the mastermind behind Metallica. Kirk has brought some of the best riffs to all the albums since Ride. Dave formed Megadeth .. big deal. Truth is … James Fucking Hetfield is a master rhythm guitarist & song writer. Lars is a great producer. Metallica was destined for world domination with or without Dave. Period!
AA isn't effective at all. The rate that people recover in AA is the same as the rate that people recover without it. They tell the attendees that alcoholism is a disease that they cannot control so of course that won't make them better.
I just never understood how Metallica could be soo cold to Dave. Yes Dave was a asshole who clearly needed help and I get they were young and nieve but to not give him a second chance and throw him away like trash was brutal… and oh by the way use his music and become big off it.
They just moved on to be honest and Lars and Dave always tried to mend bridges but then more trash tlak in the press.
And they did t really become big off his music
To this day, Dave is still butthurt. Kinda sad really. He's achieved great success on his own.
so' ~ anyway .. .
"He was hanging on to so much baggage..."
Was? Lol... yeah, because Dave NEVER talks about it anymore right 😂🤣
At least Dave talks about it and doesn't drink over it. Best of luck to Hetfield with his own baggage and sobriety.
@@GL.Sorrell Yea Hetfield doesn't drink over Dave getting fired haha he really doesn't care about that
@@imagereflection4826 Didn't say he did. Hetfield's the one going to rehab not too long ago, if you don't know "baggage" is what fuels alcoholism. Dave's doing alright for over 2 decades now.
@@GL.Sorrell Well you made it sound that way.
Yea Dave cleared himself up but he had a problem for a long time.
And James went to rehab in 2002ish and stayed sober for a long time he fell off the wagon and went straigh back to rehab so that shows maturity.
These guys all have baggage
@@imagereflection4826 Didn't make it sound anyhow, it's just how you interpreted it. Yeah, Hetfield went to rehab in late 2019, had tp cancel that tour. Everyone has baggage, but any professional knows that drinking is not better than talking about it.
The closure would be for metallica to admit their success was entirely driven by mustaines talent and writing sķill
Maybe their guitar solo success (yes, I'll grant that Mustaine is better than Kirk by a longshot), but it was Cliff's talent and writing skill that made Metallica something more than just another thrash band. You don't have to hate Megadeth to acknowledge they never created anything comparable to Lightning and Puppets.
But that would be a lie so not going to happen
@@imagereflection4826 its not a lie, its so obviously true. though I agree it will never happen.
@@kevinwalker7711 Well it is a lie their success was driven by Lars networking skills determinarion and vision for the bands sound.
And the riffs of James Hetfield and Dave mustaine in the embryonic stages of the band then James with some contributions from other members that skyrocketed them to success
Lars: He fookin left the band!
Dave: I didn´t you kicked me out
Lars: Wha...? You still around, i was talking about Jason
Dave: No warning? No second chance?
Too bad it’s always Lars taking to the band mates and keeping things held together and James just thinking he’s the king. King Nothing if you will.
Dave Mustaine is a weird guy...
The world is better for megadeth.
Megadeth > metallica by a mile
Only a mile?
Well. When you get fired from a band and they use your stuff. What do you think is going to happen?
If they didn't use his stuff they wouldn't have been successful and if they didn't get noticed with Dave's writing credit then Dave wouldn't have been noticed as well. He gets royalties from KEA and RTL
Why didn't Dave use his own stuff and garner the success Metallica had?
@@blackened4me well..he sort of did to an extent..but his voice is not as charismatic as Hetfield's plus when you name the band Megadeth, you instantly alienate mainstream audience.
They would have been fine without his stuff, it's not his songs that they're known for
@@imagereflection4826 you mean like the four horsemen, jump in the fire and metal militia? A giant fuck no! Mustaine's songs are the best on there. And guess what..his stuff is also on RTL.
Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery Dave
We didn't know about AA back in the 80s? BS. Theyve been around since after the great depression. It was often mentioned in movies in 50's, 60, 70's and jokes about AA and AAA existed just as long. Everyone back then had heard of AA. Or the Jerry Lewis Telethon. Every rock star and actor knew of Silver Hill rehab facility where entertainers have gone since 30s for alcohol and drugs.
Judy Garland, Rita Hayworth, Jerry Lee Lewis, Liza Minnelli. Truman Capote and Greg Allman in 1977 when Allman Brothers were one of biggest touring acts that all spent as much time in (expensive) rehab. They knew of the low rent option of AA because they couldn't afford clinics that catered to wealthy musicians and actors.
But being aware of AA and admitting to yourself that you need to go is two different things. The latter is always the big hang up.
It wasn't cool to talk about rehab but still shameful at the time unlike 20yrs later where it became cliched and a badge of honor.
It just wasnt a thing with 20 somethings rockers burning the candle from both ends in their prime unless there were repercussions or once they hit 40 and health, personal, business repercussions are costlier rehab becomes standard.
- Yes, but they were too immature to understand it!!!
They were 17/18 years old at that time. I think what James really means is we weren't old enough to realise someone out own age could have a problem that actually required something like AA
@@imagereflection4826 - They were kids and weren't even thinking about AA or know much what it was! They were being rock stars and partying! AA wasn't even in their vocabulary!
@@leemehan Exactly!
Without Metallica there would be no Megadeth!!
Dave seems unbearable to work with
"Not recreating the past"... kinds makes you think eh? Both bands benefited from Dave's firing, but I think James should get over this childish cr*p and make an album-as a hybrid band like Muistane has suggested. You have to admit. Metallica is great, but hasn't been even close to the same since Dave left the band.
Haven't been close since Dave left? What??? They made all their best stuff post Dave
Dude. You stabbed him right in the back because you knew he was a better guitar player and song writer. You wanted to be the lone alpha. Why the hell do you think he holds resentment?
He was a drunk and difficult to deal with. I'm glad they punted him and brought in Kirk. Mustaine landed on his feet though. Without his firing there'd be no Megadeth. Even within his own band, his own band mates have found him insanely hard to work with.
He wasn't a better songwriter then at all. It took him to be fired to become the songwriter he became
Sorry, but the only thing I will ever believe is the reason they kicked Mustaine out of the band is because they were jealous of Mustaine end of story!!!
Believe what you want it doesn't make it true haha
@@imagereflection4826 - I will and yes it is!!! Mustaine had everything the rest of the guys could never be or match!!
@@leemehan Well.....they got a lot further without him.
It would have never worked with him time has proven that with megadeth as talented as he is he's clearly not an easy person to be in a band with.
I think it's fairer to say they all did very well
@@imagereflection4826 - Mustaine was like the Michael Jordan of metal! Nobody could ever match him end of story!!!
@@leemehanis dave your dad boi
he thinks everybody is dumb doesn't he.
Stop this TELENOVELA please....i guess you weren't POSERS guys!!!!
Oh god. They ruined themselves with that movie. Either way, Megadeth is better. Metallica will never write an album like The Sick The Dying... And The Dead today. And they haven't for a long long time. I do not think Metallica is capable.
I really don't see the big deal with the new album it's the most generic rehashed riffs totally lacks creativity. Megadeth haven't been great since countdown
Great! That's fine that you think that. You are probably the only person I've heard say that though... 😅😅😅 I'm just gonna chalk it up to you are just a fan and have no music experience too realize how great of an album it is.
Hell, I think the new album is slightly better than Countdown...
Also has nothing to do with the fact that Metallica like literally CAN NOT write anything close. Which was my point.
@@ianunderhill9458 Really? I've heard loads of people say that about the new album haha. It's very uninspired it like death magnetic just rehashed old riffs and ideas
After 'some kind of monster' I've lost a lot of respect for metallica or Lars in general. Dude is not a good drummer, the therapy sessions in the documentary was painful to watch. Metallica not being honest about stealing Dave Mustaine's royalties doesn't sit well with most sensible fans. Metallica has become one big corporate machinery and the cracks are showing. New album is lackluster tbh. Dave Mustaine and Megadeth wins this round again.
Seems to me Lars and James have no honest self reflection, they're used to corporate 'yes' men kissing their asses and it shows. Nobody to tell them 'NO' - Should've listened to Lar's dad (from some kind of monster) "delete it"
New album is very lazy and more mid-tempo load, reload snooze fest. Lux eterna was promising but you hear the rest of the album and it's just downright disappointing. Honestly, if Cliff was alive today, I guarantee Lars would not be in the band or more likely Cliff would have left metallica in disgust and probably joins Megadeth. Lol
They didn't steal his royalties, he got his royalties from day 1.
And cliff was well behind firing Dave