LeBron has 4 rings, 4 finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, and the most points all time in the regular season and the playoffs. One, if that man doesn’t have a bag, then nobody has a bag. Two, by McCant’s rationale, that would mean LeBron didn’t need a system in order to win championships and be the best player in the league for damn near a decade and then some.
why do they always skip out on the FACT that kobe & lebron played against each other & not only did lebron out perform kobe he was 19-8 vs kobe. You literally have 27 games you could watch & see who was better !!
1v1 when they guarded each other Kobe was shooting 50% and Lebron was shooting 35% Kobe was way better when they matched up funny how Lebron fans wanna bring up wins but Lebron is 3-6 in the finals 😂
They don’t have any legs to stand on when it comes to Kobe Vs Lebron. The only argument left is rings but if rings are your only argument you’ve already lost the debate
@PA-zt6xu Lebrons handles are mediocre at best. He's shooting is mediocre also. Mid range is garbage. 3pt shot is mediocre since he's left wide open most/ if not all the time. If he doesn't bully his way to the basket with a push off then he can't score. What am I missing? Oh and how's his footwork?
Shit. First-time coaches 😆 and he took a few bum teams to the finals. All without Phil Jackson and the system. Jealousy is for the weak. SHOD SOUNDS DUMB. BRON HAD JUST AS MUCH OF A BAG AS MJ WHO COULDN'T HANDLE UNTIL LATER ON.
LeBron can't hold Kobe's jock strap with a Crane,you guys love stats it's the eye test, forget the numbers,if you was picking a team who you picking, I'm picking Jordan, Kobe before LeBron
@Kobe824-cz2wg To stop Kobe? Lol he was tryna stop the damn big 3 Celtics from going upside his head while he was still on a funky team in Cleavland. Yall really hate Lebron fr
@@Timquan.Lebron went Miami because of the SUPERTEAM IN BOSTON. Mj has 0 rings without Phill Jackson and scottie Pippen. KOBE HAS 0 RINGS WITHOUT PHILL JACKSON AND SHAQ...
When phil first came to Chicago he wasn't anywhere near the coach he turned out to be.. he had to grow into it lmfao and Mike didn't run to teams and ask for trades everytime you turn around he waited for the help to come to him...but yall will criticize him for losing when he first got to the league even tho he was going up against the bad boy piston,show time lakers,and 4 hall of famer celtics.. make it make sense. Gotta love lebron fans tho comment again when you actually have a real argument lmfao what's lebron's excuse?..
@@coreythomas3633please explain to me how boston was a superteam I'll wait...so what's the excuse for going back to Cleveland?...going to L.A.?...tell me you're a casual lebron fan without telling me. Oh ok stefu then.
@@basedjiren3889Since when did "how long it took" someone to surpass someone else become a legitimate argument against the accomplishment? I'm not convinced that claim makes any sense in the grand scheme of the nuanced history of divergent paths players took to achieve their accomplishments.
Like when Lebron became the youngest player to score 20,000 points but it suddenly became unimportant who was the fastest player to do so.@@ScottRachelson777
He basically saying the triangle helped developed MJ and Kobe game, LBJ didn’t have that type of coach to do that, soo how can he be better, LBJ is the best one it made a former NBa player rethink everything and said damn Gil you right that does make LBJ the best
Everytime someone thinks that are using some logic to show how much better MJ or Kobe was better than LeBron,it's always backfire on them and they're logic favors LeBron 😂😂😂McCants clear hate for LeBron is very noticeable even John Sally could see it 🤔
What is Lebron's shooting percentage from 3ft and farther out from the basket? When you talk about a better bag it means skillset and moves. Moves in the post , moves in the air driving to the basket , how fast is your first step , dribbling going right going left , having a go too shot with the ability to create space between you and the defender while getting to a spot on the floor for a shot to win the game , and how many different ways can you score. MJ has Bron beat in every aspect. Jordan could drive to the basket for dunks over 7 footers , could drive finishing with reverse layups and jelly finger rolls , shoot the lights out from mid range , had numerous moves in the post with his back to the basket with footwork and his iconic fade away jumpers , he had insane creativity when using a move making it up in the moment , hesitation moves and dribbles , spin moves , and he could hit the 3 point shot when he had or chose too. Jordan's career 3pt % is what 33%? Lebron's is 35 %? In Jordan's era the 3 point shot was not utilized like it is today but Jordan could hit the 3. Alot of his made 3's were when the shot clock was about to expire at the end of a play , end of a quarter , end of a half , and at the end of a game for the win but Jordan hit the 3 pointer when his team needed one especially in the playoffs. Also you talk about Lebron's number of points , rebounds , and assists. Well he has played 21 seasons now so his stats will accumulate. Lol This is more of a longevity argument because when you go by peak stretches MJ destroys Lebron in every category out there. Plus/minus , PER , points , steals , assists , blocks , rebounds 30 pt games , 40 point games , 50 point games , and on and on. MJ has 10 scoring titles in a row. Bron has 1? Jordan led the league in steals and blocks , he won DPOY , has 5 regular season MVP's to Lebron's 4 , has 6 Finals MVP'S to Bron's 4 , has two 3-peats while Bron has none , and on and on. Bron leads the league in most points scored all time but again thats a longevity accomplishment. If MJ had played just 3 or 4 more seasons he would have well over 40,000 points and accomplished that in way less time than Lebron did. This other argument about MJ and Kobe playing in a system and Lebron WAS the system is laughable. Lebron being the system which to me means he can only play one way is one of the reasons why he's lost so much. He can't play off the ball. He needs the ball in his hands bringing the ball up the court to drive and dish to a teammate for a 3 pointer. Other than that Bron's other strength is using his size to dip his shoulder into the defender as he drives from half court or on a fast break bumping the defender off him for a layup or dunk. Thats it. Also....Bron turns the ball over alot. He leads the league in that category and he's close to becoming the NBA player with the most missed feild goal attempts of all time. Yet his fans like to say he's a better shooter than MJ? Smh. Bron can't even shoot free throws that well. His career % from the line is like 73% ? Bron has a high feild goal % because many of his points are layups and dunks. Just looking at the form and mechanics of their shooting styles you can see MJ is the better shooter with much better touch. MJ could grab a rebound or pass with one hand!!! Stop the nonsense fellas!! I could go on but I shall stop here. Bron is an all-time great player and has accomplished alot but he's not the GOAT. MJ set the bar really high and it is very hard to reach. One day a player may come along and surpass MJ but that day is not today. There have been so many great players in the past I don't even have Lebron top ten all time. But that's another story.
I'm being sincere when I say you dropped knowledge from the belly like Buns' minister. I'm old enough to have seen young then prime MJ in person a few times vs Clippers in old LA Sports Arena, and I have also seen both versions of Bron in person, and find it comical that they're compared. I agree 100% with Hakeem when he said "It's an unfair comparison. Jordan is a far more superior player and in a tougher league." MJ had the leaner, faster twitching muscle fibers which granted him the superior reflexes, hand-eye coordination, quickness, explosiveness, agility, etc. The guy was half-man, half-jaguar. He was able to leap, off one or two feet, so quickly and come down with such lightness. Bron is more like a water buffalo in a stampede. The guy has as many "go-to" moves as Barkley does chips - and I don't mean Ruffles.
The truth! It was over in 2010 when Dan Gilbert said Con Queen quit in a multitude of games in playoffs vs Boston. Celtics players confirmed it by saying they "broke" Bron. Or was it over in 2011? When a teammate (House) criticized Massengill Mentality for quitting in a multitude of games in NBA Finals when Bron had a Chernobyl reactor size meltdown and was outplayed by a low-fueled jet of a role player. Or was it over in 2013 in a regular season game vs Pacers during a timeout when a teammate (Chalmers) called Bron a bitch for ballin' too passively and not bringin' the heat in a flash ala Wade? Or was it over in 2016 at half-time of 2016 NBA Finals Game 7? When Ty Lue stepped to King Flop in locker-room and said “Stop being so passive. And guard Draymond. You have to be better bro.” Or was it in 2018 NBA Finals Game 1? When Bron had a meltdown and quit in OT after JR Smith's blunder. Or was it after last year's WCF? When Bron did a Houdini disappearing act in all FOUR 4th quarters of winnable games? Queen Diva's resume is as tarnished as Monica Lewkinsky's blue dress after she stroke Clinton's bill. That Monistat cat's cerebral is Vagisil vaginal. He's had more All-Star teammate than any other NBA superstar and he's under .500 in Finals. And that's why today's finest (Curry, Durant, Leonard, Doncic, Lillard, Tatum, Zion, Harden Butler, Ingram, Edwards, LaVine, Mitchell) all view Black Jesus as the GOAT. Even the pretty lady (Jeanie Buss) that pays Vagisil Valor his massive salary views His Airness as the GOAT.
Nah, because DUMBAZZ CONTROL THA NARRATIVE CONTENT SPEAKERS like to say STUPID SHIT like this. THINKING that just because you Shoot alot, have creative ways of scoring, and show a flare when you do score, this is SUPPOSED TO MEAN that you are the MOST SKILLED, and that's BULLSHIT..... Being the MOST SKILLED is MORE THAN JUST SCORING, can you PASS, REBOUND, BLOCK SHOTS etc. And LEBRON does these things BETTER THAN BOTH of them, PERIOD..... #CROWNME👑23
He literally wanted to compare a 20 yr old jordan to a 2023 lol 39 yr old lebron. 😂 dude emotional. So you kno he never gonna have no sense about this conversation
McCants is just a live and in color troll. Dude is the court jester of the show (which is the reason he wears that crown). If Gil was a rapper then McCants would be his hype man to get the YT crowd hyped for clicks. Basically Gil is Lil John and McCants is Big Sam and Lil Bo....🤣🤣🤣🤣
Once Rashad McCants realized that his take actually made LeBron James look even better as the GOAT, he tried like hell to talk his way out of it. This was hilarious to watch.
The fact that dudes are comparing a loser to winners is hilarious. Steph, Kobe and Duncan one team. Steph 3 of his 4 against Lebron Duncan 2-1 vs Lebron and Kobe has 5 rings. Lebron 4 rings more Number 1 pick teammates, top 5 teammates Olympic teammates and championship teammates. Stop this bs narrative of how Lebron has done so much with less.
Bottom line if MJ and Kobe did not have the triangle and Phil Jackson on top of two of the greatest general managers of all times they absolutely would not be put on the pedestal they are on. Now Reg I wonder how many of these casual podcasters are going to do a show on what John Salley just said 🤔🤔🤔🤔 crickets!😂😂😂
Here’s the point/question they should have asked…how many championships did Jordan or Kobe win when they were NOT in the system (triangle) ? Then compare their careers to Lebron that would be a fair assessment
The problem with Rashad argument is it would make more sense and credible if he wasn’t biased so everything is coming at a slant . The panel was saying that even though they feel Jordan is the goat , you can’t deny what LeBron has done without a system to play in
@@Kobe824-cz2wg LeBron is 16-6 against Kobe . While yes Kobe have have an impressive record against 50 win teams, he also missed the playoffs in his prime, unlike Jordan or LeBron. . Not to mention he only has one mvp .
@@Kobe824-cz2wg you do know that Wade was being sarcastic right? LeBron left Cleveland because Dan Gilbert who just brought the team a year earlier wasn’t going to spend any money to get players to come to Cleveland. It was talks of him , Wade and melo going to Chicago or join melo with the Knicks . Miami was the last option but presented the best case . Kobe got 5 championships but only the best player for two of them. Kobe was a role player for his first two and half seasons in the league, didn’t average 20 points until year 4 , didn’t win mvp , regular season or finals playing with shaq buy shaq did both 🤔
Rashad is on point with his take dude what are you talking about? You LeBron Fanboys really don't have to be glazing that hard bro it makes you look so uninformed if you don't understand what he's saying. Nobody cares about those 40,000 points cuz it's just empty calories.
LeBron dropped 37pts on Rashad Mccant every meeting they had against each time and the last time they met LeBron dropped 51 points on Rashad Mccant and that's why he doesn't like Bron!
The fact they act like LeBron has never been on teams that had a offensive system is WILD. Even in the triangle Jordan and Kobe would take over and do their own thing when they had to. Trying to criticize Mike and Kobe for being great players in a system is the most ridiculous take I've seen yet from Gil and that's saying ALOT SMFH
There is no debate; Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has 6 chips, 2nd all time rebounds, 3rd all time blocks, and the most ponits in NBA history and was never considered the greatest player in NBA history; and Kareem said he was not better than Jordan, but he said he was just as effective; and Jordan 9 times all defensive teams NBA record, 10 scoring titles the most in NBA history, 5 league MVP, why Jordan considered the GOAT (All around all time player)! but LeBron James 5 all defensive teams, 30th in rebounds all time, 80th all time blocks, and LeBron gets the most points, and somehow instantly, he's the greatest player ever with 3 and half chips; the bubble. Lol, the idea has to be delusion! Notice I didn't have to mention Jordan's championships, everybody knows that record; undefeated!
Newsflash guy no other great player wins championships alone. You need other great players to win. See magic and Kareem, MJ and Scottie. Kobe and Shaq. You would’ve preferred LeBron stay in Cleveland with Delonte West? 😂
@coreythomas3633 goofy you the one that brought up Delonte West. I'm just telling you they won 60 some games with Delonte West. Don't tell me LeBron won all 60 some games by itself really lol.
Jordan never won without a point forward in Scottie Pippen and a defender/rebounder in Horace Grant & Dennis Rodman. When Horace left, Jordan didn't even make it past Horace himself, he had to get Rodman, who was a better Defender and Rebounder than Horace to make it to the finals once again. The bulls had one of the best systems of all time with great role players like Paxton and Kerr who were there when needed as well, including a great coach and front office. Every GREAT needs a team filled with talented players who have mastered their individual roles.
Lebron worked in systems! Lebron just happen to be in eras with multiple great teams. The Spurs and Warriors in he 2010's in the same as the Pistons, Celtics and Lakers in the 80's. The Bulls run started as the Pistons, Celtics and Lakers got older. They were done in the early 90's! Kobe had Shaq 18 to 25!
We saw Jordan and Kobe without the triangle or a system they lost we never saw Lebron with the triangle or a system or hall of fame coaching Bron would have 8 chips easy
Rashad McCants is the same clown who said Trae Young is better than Luka the Don, and even a few years later, when Luka was an MVP candidate, he again doubled down on it, insisting Trae was still better. Typical Rashad McCants buffoonery.
Rashad must get paid really good for all the drama he provides to the podcast. This pod cast is so entertaining mainly because of him going at it with Gil lol makes me wonder if these guys resent each other cause at times it really does feel like Rashad and gil hate each other
I totally think it’s okay to think other players are better or just like other players over Bron, my problem is the LYING. 😂 like McCants is so unserious
Kobe is not a mirror of Jordan. Certain elements of Kobe’s game that he refined could be viewed as similar but if you watched them up close, they are definitely not mirrors.
They always lying for LeBron cause he was in a system in Miami and he didn't want to stay cause he couldn't get his way and wanted the coach fired and with that system they have went to 2 finals without him
@TheLockerRoomla Remember LBJ and Kobe was on course to meet up in the finals Kobe went to three straight NBA finals without Shaq waiting on lbj the three teams that LBJ was losing to Kobe was scraping them bums in the finals.
Fired??!! Rashad McCants is one of the few that tells the truth about LeBron. No (respected) players care about stats because they understand that your stats depends on the competition level. LeBron era is soft and the only move he possess is bully smaller defenders. Also refs let him get away with what's clearly offensive fouls. With MJ and Kobe, there's moves, situations, and stats we could look at to explain their greatness. LeBron fans can only run to "over hyped" stats which he couldn't have gotten in the 90s and probably not the 80s. He's too mentally weak.
Ya'll don't like McCants because he doesn't glaze Lebron. Everyone knows Lebron is the greatest pad stuffer of all time. Michael Jordan accomplished more in 15 years than Kobe and Lebron in 19-21 years. McCants is correct, media penalize kobe for playing with shaq but don't penalize Lebron for playing with Wade and Bosh.
I’m confused. Goat means “this player was just unstoppable etc” what does winning a championship (team success) have to do with the individual. Lebron played for 3 different franchises and won, and won finals mvp for all 3
Everyone has their own connotation of Goat. A majority of people that witnessed even the last 3-peat of Jordan’s(30-33+ and over) are going to always say Jordan. Wasn’t just the individual dominance mixed in with the championships. The game was never as popular or as cultural as it was then. Old ladies in non-urban towns would skip bingo or church just to see Jordan. He also had timeless moments or highlights if you will that will outlive us - 89 shot, 91 switch hand layup, free throw line dunks, crying w the trophy, shrug game, Father’s Day game, flu game, buzzer beater on Russell, 98 finals.
Facts is, Lebron is uncoachable. Cant talk Rashad dumb take, and then use 1-9 without Pippen. Thats the most idiotic take of all time. When MJ went 2-9, Pippen had 0 points. When the bulls won that series, Pippen averaged like 9ppg and MJ averaged 45.
LBJ played in the no DEF era and no he doesn't have the skill set Jordan and Kobe has. Stop talking about the scoring title he got that from longegvity. Kareem all time scorer getting 2pts not 3pts. LBJ no post game doesn't know how to take advantage of weaker or smaller defenders. Only head down drive or shooting long 3s.
After hearing what you just said I am done with the debate. Most guys apply emotion over especially them during Jordan era guys. Look I am Laker first above all, KoBE is still and was my man during the Jordan also acknowledging Jordan as thee for era and time. But one thing I tell you, that boiii called LeBron is something else. And using rings is stupid cause one can have from sitting on the bench. Is Kuzma better than Buttler?
@@TheLockerRoomla also checked out the debate on Lamount, one thing is that you had most points especially about defends, D-Lo cost us bad. And also you cannot blame the leader when he delivers as requested, and the role players were not coming up to par with him. Am glad them Chicken Nuggets was out, but I cannot put it all on Joker. That is weak basketball IQ, I gave up the time he couldn't agree on Hayes having less fouls especially during the playoffs. Showed does not cover our games the way he claims. Coach my ass, I feel sorry for the team Lamount coaching. Basketball and Boxing are not the same. In boxing blame goes on the player cause he is the one in the ring but team sport, there is more to look into, than just that one player.
This ninja bugging. Listen, give MJ & Kobe ALREADY PROVEN talent like Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, or AD & see how many chips they would’ve won!! Phil didn’t make the triangle, Tex Winters did. MJ & Kobe made the best out of it. All the players I’ve named were better than Gasol & you can say a young Pippen who got his game up while playing with MJ. They both made their co star better while LBJ didn’t make none of his co stars better. They had to get on board & adjust their ALREADY HOF type games to play with LBJ.
@@raymondsims7042You don’t win 66 & 61 games in back to back years unless your team is solid. That Cavs team was to surround Lebron with a strong enough defensive unit & let Lebron orchestrate the offense. Lebron has to carry the weight of blame: 2007(shitty finals performance - 22ppg, 35% shooting, 6 turnovers a game.) 2009( great stats but critical misses & turnovers in crunch time) 2010(last 3 games were abysmal). The 2011 Finals shouldn’t have been surprising when you factor those performances in.
@@rackball5858 I’m not saying he didn’t play bad in the 07 finals but they were only there because of lebron come on man. We people talked about playing those teams it was always “Were going against lebron” and that’s it😂🤷♂️you know this
When Kobe got out the system and ball hogged, look at the how many points Kobe had! If Jordan didn't have the teammates he had with the bulls, the points he had! Mind you, Lebron had to go to a system with Pat Riley, in Miami! So the same argument LeBron didnt have nobody in Cleveland, Jordan didn't have nobody his earlier years! Mind you if Jordan never retired twice wheat would his numbers and championships be like! So Lebron not retiring at all, and Jordan retired twice! So if we really slice it and dice it! Who in their right minds count Lebron's championship ring in the bubble? So really what are we talking about!
This would probably be my favorite show if Rashad McCants wasn't on it. You know how they always say that if you haven't played the game then you don't know the game. McCants is a perfect reason why that whole analogy goes out the window. Smh.
Kobe nor MJ had any team success without Phil Jackson! Their teams were bottom feeders every year without Phil! The is nothing to go off on in their careers to show they can make any situation into a contender they just turn into these volumes scorers on fridge playoff teams or teams that don’t make the playoffs at all!
Jordan my Goat not bc 6 ring he'z my goat 🐐 bc I think he jus A flatout better winner than my second Goat baby goat James 🐐 Let'z B honest baby goat James lost 2 many game with him NOT going out swinging 2 many game regular season & all of we being real here
McCants makes No Damn Sense
LeBron has 4 rings, 4 finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, and the most points all time in the regular season and the playoffs. One, if that man doesn’t have a bag, then nobody has a bag. Two, by McCant’s rationale, that would mean LeBron didn’t need a system in order to win championships and be the best player in the league for damn near a decade and then some.
why do they always skip out on the FACT that kobe & lebron played against each other & not only did lebron out perform kobe he was 19-8 vs kobe. You literally have 27 games you could watch & see who was better !!
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@@showtimej2582 i stand corrected 👍🏾
1v1 when they guarded each other Kobe was shooting 50% and Lebron was shooting 35% Kobe was way better when they matched up funny how Lebron fans wanna bring up wins but Lebron is 3-6 in the finals 😂
@@That223mf ok 👍🏾
They don’t have any legs to stand on when it comes to Kobe Vs Lebron. The only argument left is rings but if rings are your only argument you’ve already lost the debate
Coaching matters. Jordan and Kobe wouldn’t have been as successful at winning without Phil Jackson.
Phil first head coach job was MJ. They grew together. He wasn’t great before he coached the bulls.
Players win the game not coaches. Tom Brady showed you that.
Excuses
How many chips phil win before Mike??😅😂
Coping hard
This LeBron "has no bag" claim is ridiculous!
Clowns be acting like Lebron dunked his way to 40K points...lol! Like Lebron is Stromile Swift or some mess..lol
He doesn’t have a bag
@@beebbeec280 boy I know that’s some fire crack you smoking. Bet that stuff is some Colombian Pablo Escobar 80s crack 🤣
@PA-zt6xu Lebrons handles are mediocre at best. He's shooting is mediocre also. Mid range is garbage. 3pt shot is mediocre since he's left wide open most/ if not all the time. If he doesn't bully his way to the basket with a push off then he can't score. What am I missing?
Oh and how's his footwork?
LeBagless
LeBron did it with mediocre coaches !!!!!!
Shit. First-time coaches 😆 and he took a few bum teams to the finals. All without Phil Jackson and the system.
Jealousy is for the weak. SHOD SOUNDS DUMB.
BRON HAD JUST AS MUCH OF A BAG AS MJ WHO COULDN'T HANDLE UNTIL LATER ON.
He also never won a championship without 2 all stars till he got to the bubble
Same as jordan and Kobe. They all needed help, it's a team sport
LeBron can't hold Kobe's jock strap with a Crane,you guys love stats it's the eye test, forget the numbers,if you was picking a team who you picking, I'm picking Jordan, Kobe before LeBron
@@That223mfwhile going up against Superstars and Hall of Famers
LEBRON ALSO DIDN'T HAVE PHILL JACKSON OR THE BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. LIKE MJ OR SHAQ LIKE KOBE
@Kobe824-cz2wg To stop Kobe? Lol he was tryna stop the damn big 3 Celtics from going upside his head while he was still on a funky team in Cleavland. Yall really hate Lebron fr
@@Timquan.Lebron went Miami because of the SUPERTEAM IN BOSTON. Mj has 0 rings without Phill Jackson and scottie Pippen. KOBE HAS 0 RINGS WITHOUT PHILL JACKSON AND SHAQ...
Mike was the team😂😅
When phil first came to Chicago he wasn't anywhere near the coach he turned out to be.. he had to grow into it lmfao and Mike didn't run to teams and ask for trades everytime you turn around he waited for the help to come to him...but yall will criticize him for losing when he first got to the league even tho he was going up against the bad boy piston,show time lakers,and 4 hall of famer celtics.. make it make sense. Gotta love lebron fans tho comment again when you actually have a real argument lmfao what's lebron's excuse?..
@@coreythomas3633please explain to me how boston was a superteam I'll wait...so what's the excuse for going back to Cleveland?...going to L.A.?...tell me you're a casual lebron fan without telling me. Oh ok stefu then.
Do this bum not know that Lebron passed Kobe and Jordan on scoring while taking less shots
McCants the first NBA player that makes CTE hot takes like he did 12 years in the NFL and got brain damage...lol!
It took LeBron 4 extra seasons to pass Jordan in scoring 🤦♂️
@@basedjiren3889Since when did "how long it took" someone to surpass someone else become a legitimate argument against the accomplishment? I'm not convinced that claim makes any sense in the grand scheme of the nuanced history of divergent paths players took to achieve their accomplishments.
@@basedjiren3889 No one but haters think that's a legitimate argument against LeBron
Like when Lebron became the youngest player to score 20,000 points but it suddenly became unimportant who was the fastest player to do so.@@ScottRachelson777
Rashad is making NO SENSE. And I’m a Kobe guy. Kobe is just my favorite. Idc about the metrics. If you say Bron is the best, I get it
He basically saying the triangle helped developed MJ and Kobe game, LBJ didn’t have that type of coach to do that, soo how can he be better, LBJ is the best one it made a former NBa player rethink everything and said damn Gil you right that does make LBJ the best
McCants never knows what the fuck he's talking about. He let's who he's a fan of totally color his opinion regardless of the facts.
Exactly
Everytime someone thinks that are using some logic to show how much better MJ or Kobe was better than LeBron,it's always backfire on them and they're logic favors LeBron 😂😂😂McCants clear hate for LeBron is very noticeable even John Sally could see it 🤔
You dudes need to get off your knees and wipe your mouth he got Savannah at home he don't need y'all glazing
@@jarvisjones9529 I don't know why you dudes let LeBron make you so sensitive to the point where you have to insult!!!
Mccants got cooked by his on logic smh shit backfired on him
@@Kobe824-cz2wg Yea I know your opinion is the only thing that matters you got it 🤡
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What is Lebron's shooting percentage from 3ft and farther out from the basket? When you talk about a better bag it means skillset and moves. Moves in the post , moves in the air driving to the basket , how fast is your first step , dribbling going right going left , having a go too shot with the ability to create space between you and the defender while getting to a spot on the floor for a shot to win the game , and how many different ways can you score. MJ has Bron beat in every aspect. Jordan could drive to the basket for dunks over 7 footers , could drive finishing with reverse layups and jelly finger rolls , shoot the lights out from mid range , had numerous moves in the post with his back to the basket with footwork and his iconic fade away jumpers , he had insane creativity when using a move making it up in the moment , hesitation moves and dribbles , spin moves , and he could hit the 3 point shot when he had or chose too. Jordan's career 3pt % is what 33%? Lebron's is 35 %? In Jordan's era the 3 point shot was not utilized like it is today but Jordan could hit the 3. Alot of his made 3's were when the shot clock was about to expire at the end of a play , end of a quarter , end of a half , and at the end of a game for the win but Jordan hit the 3 pointer when his team needed one especially in the playoffs. Also you talk about Lebron's number of points , rebounds , and assists. Well he has played 21 seasons now so his stats will accumulate. Lol This is more of a longevity argument because when you go by peak stretches MJ destroys Lebron in every category out there. Plus/minus , PER , points , steals , assists , blocks , rebounds 30 pt games , 40 point games , 50 point games , and on and on. MJ has 10 scoring titles in a row. Bron has 1? Jordan led the league in steals and blocks , he won DPOY , has 5 regular season MVP's to Lebron's 4 , has 6 Finals MVP'S to Bron's 4 , has two 3-peats while Bron has none , and on and on. Bron leads the league in most points scored all time but again thats a longevity accomplishment. If MJ had played just 3 or 4 more seasons he would have well over 40,000 points and accomplished that in way less time than Lebron did. This other argument about MJ and Kobe playing in a system and Lebron WAS the system is laughable. Lebron being the system which to me means he can only play one way is one of the reasons why he's lost so much. He can't play off the ball. He needs the ball in his hands bringing the ball up the court to drive and dish to a teammate for a 3 pointer. Other than that Bron's other strength is using his size to dip his shoulder into the defender as he drives from half court or on a fast break bumping the defender off him for a layup or dunk. Thats it. Also....Bron turns the ball over alot. He leads the league in that category and he's close to becoming the NBA player with the most missed feild goal attempts of all time. Yet his fans like to say he's a better shooter than MJ? Smh. Bron can't even shoot free throws that well. His career % from the line is like 73% ? Bron has a high feild goal % because many of his points are layups and dunks. Just looking at the form and mechanics of their shooting styles you can see MJ is the better shooter with much better touch. MJ could grab a rebound or pass with one hand!!! Stop the nonsense fellas!! I could go on but I shall stop here. Bron is an all-time great player and has accomplished alot but he's not the GOAT. MJ set the bar really high and it is very hard to reach. One day a player may come along and surpass MJ but that day is not today. There have been so many great players in the past I don't even have Lebron top ten all time. But that's another story.
I'm being sincere when I say you dropped knowledge from the belly like Buns' minister. I'm old enough to have seen young then prime MJ in person a few times vs Clippers in old LA Sports Arena, and I have also seen both versions of Bron in person, and find it comical that they're compared. I agree 100% with Hakeem when he said "It's an unfair comparison. Jordan is a far more superior player and in a tougher league."
MJ had the leaner, faster twitching muscle fibers which granted him the superior reflexes, hand-eye coordination, quickness, explosiveness, agility, etc. The guy was half-man, half-jaguar. He was able to leap, off one or two feet, so quickly and come down with such lightness. Bron is more like a water buffalo in a stampede. The guy has as many "go-to" moves as Barkley does chips - and I don't mean Ruffles.
G.O.A.T debate been over👑🐐
The truth! It was over in 2010 when Dan Gilbert said Con Queen quit in a multitude of games in playoffs vs Boston. Celtics players confirmed it by saying they "broke" Bron. Or was it over in 2011? When a teammate (House) criticized Massengill Mentality for quitting in a multitude of games in NBA Finals when Bron had a Chernobyl reactor size meltdown and was outplayed by a low-fueled jet of a role player. Or was it over in 2013 in a regular season game vs Pacers during a timeout when a teammate (Chalmers) called Bron a bitch for ballin' too passively and not bringin' the heat in a flash ala Wade? Or was it over in 2016 at half-time of 2016 NBA Finals Game 7? When Ty Lue stepped to King Flop in locker-room and said “Stop being so passive. And guard Draymond. You have to be better bro.” Or was it in 2018 NBA Finals Game 1? When Bron had a meltdown and quit in OT after JR Smith's blunder. Or was it after last year's WCF? When Bron did a Houdini disappearing act in all FOUR 4th quarters of winnable games?
Queen Diva's resume is as tarnished as Monica Lewkinsky's blue dress after she stroke Clinton's bill. That Monistat cat's cerebral is Vagisil vaginal. He's had more All-Star teammate than any other NBA superstar and he's under .500 in Finals. And that's why today's finest (Curry, Durant, Leonard, Doncic, Lillard, Tatum, Zion, Harden Butler, Ingram, Edwards, LaVine, Mitchell) all view Black Jesus as the GOAT. Even the pretty lady (Jeanie Buss) that pays Vagisil Valor his massive salary views His Airness as the GOAT.
Great video 🔥
McCants make no damn sense like did he even think about what he said
Nah, because DUMBAZZ CONTROL THA NARRATIVE CONTENT SPEAKERS like to say STUPID SHIT like this. THINKING that just because you Shoot alot, have creative ways of scoring, and show a flare when you do score, this is SUPPOSED TO MEAN that you are the MOST SKILLED, and that's BULLSHIT.....
Being the MOST SKILLED is MORE THAN JUST SCORING, can you PASS, REBOUND, BLOCK SHOTS etc.
And LEBRON does these things BETTER THAN BOTH of them, PERIOD.....
#CROWNME👑23
He literally wanted to compare a 20 yr old jordan to a 2023 lol 39 yr old lebron. 😂 dude emotional. So you kno he never gonna have no sense about this conversation
😂😂😂
Thanks. You are the only person who explains it that way. Thank you.
That shit be sounding good as fuck in Rashad head then he starts to speak and shit goes down hill
McCants is just a live and in color troll. Dude is the court jester of the show (which is the reason he wears that crown). If Gil was a rapper then McCants would be his hype man to get the YT crowd hyped for clicks. Basically Gil is Lil John and McCants is Big Sam and Lil Bo....🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Thank you, brother. You and Gilbert are too of the smarter guys. Thank you again.
Palinka is holding Bron back from getting championships so Kobe's can continue to have more than Bron.
Once Rashad McCants realized that his take actually made LeBron James look even better as the GOAT, he tried like hell to talk his way out of it. This was hilarious to watch.
Sally said to McCants, I been watching the show and you don't like LeBron 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yall not listening to him because he not on lebron side.
Same witchu
same with YOU LEBRON THE GOAT
@@tytytyme33 I listen to both sides
@@coreythomas3633 this goat stuff is opinionated and that’s your opinion but it’s cool with me.
@@JLDub86kobe work for his status lebron cheated the game Lebalco
REGGIE you always bring the real truth to this debate thanks for keeping 100% 🏀
Appreciate you!
The fact that dudes are comparing a loser to winners is hilarious. Steph, Kobe and Duncan one team. Steph 3 of his 4 against Lebron Duncan 2-1 vs Lebron and Kobe has 5 rings. Lebron 4 rings more Number 1 pick teammates, top 5 teammates Olympic teammates and championship teammates. Stop this bs narrative of how Lebron has done so much with less.
This man really said "88 mike to "23 Bron" He really tried to compare a 23 or 24 year old MJ to a 39 year old Bron 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅
SMH………..No Chill Gil You Got A Lot Of Patience With Rashaud! Plus King LBJ Has Scored Over 40,000 Points To Lead NBA History Without A System
The First Sista Had More Knowledge Than Rashaud and He Was Intimated By Her Brilliance
Bottom line if MJ and Kobe did not have the triangle and Phil Jackson on top of two of the greatest general managers of all times they absolutely would not be put on the pedestal they are on. Now Reg I wonder how many of these casual podcasters are going to do a show on what John Salley just said 🤔🤔🤔🤔 crickets!😂😂😂
Clown if James didn’t have super teams wat would he have clown 🤡
False, MJ was scoring insane numbers before having Phil. He even won dpoy in Phil's first year.
Here’s the point/question they should have asked…how many championships did Jordan or Kobe win when they were NOT in the system (triangle) ? Then compare their careers to Lebron that would be a fair assessment
The problem with Rashad argument is it would make more sense and credible if he wasn’t biased so everything is coming at a slant . The panel was saying that even though they feel Jordan is the goat , you can’t deny what LeBron has done without a system to play in
@@Kobe824-cz2wg LeBron is 16-6 against Kobe . While yes Kobe have have an impressive record against 50 win teams, he also missed the playoffs in his prime, unlike Jordan or LeBron. . Not to mention he only has one mvp .
@@Kobe824-cz2wg you do know that Wade was being sarcastic right? LeBron left Cleveland because Dan Gilbert who just brought the team a year earlier wasn’t going to spend any money to get players to come to Cleveland. It was talks of him , Wade and melo going to Chicago or join melo with the Knicks . Miami was the last option but presented the best case . Kobe got 5 championships but only the best player for two of them. Kobe was a role player for his first two and half seasons in the league, didn’t average 20 points until year 4 , didn’t win mvp , regular season or finals playing with shaq buy shaq did both 🤔
@@Kobe824-cz2wg that would actually have some credibility if they were in the same conference or played each other in the finals
Rashad is on point with his take dude what are you talking about? You LeBron Fanboys really don't have to be glazing that hard bro it makes you look so uninformed if you don't understand what he's saying. Nobody cares about those 40,000 points cuz it's just empty calories.
Gilbert Arenas know how great Lebron is he use to bust Gil a$$ in the playoffs lol
Bro Rashad makes the show lol without him it wouldn’t be entertaining
He is funny 😂
He the only one that he making sense his delivery but off but his message b clear
LeBron dropped 37pts on Rashad Mccant every meeting they had against each time and the last time they met LeBron dropped 51 points on Rashad Mccant and that's why he doesn't like Bron!
"LeBron fans lack common sense"
- Smart people
I'm 32 and I grew up watching MJ, Kobe and LeBron. In my opinion I have LeBron as the G.O.A.T because of the way he played without a system in year 22
Theres not a single thing MJ or Kobe can do offensively that Lebron hasnt done or can't do.
Does it make a difference that lbj is 6'9 260
They completely destroyed Rashad, put him in the dirt. He doesn't care for Lebron at all. He's takes are off his emotions of Lebron
Ti's is why most people call athletes a dumb jock. They play all those years and still don't understand the game. Just a few does
Bunch of people tryna tell talented people what they would have done. America…gotta love it.
Man what the hell is Mccants talking about he on dog food
It ain't about stats....it's about winning
They from the participation trophy era bro 🤦🏾♂️
It’s about both because you need stats in order to calculate who won the game
@@dwightwilkerson8664 bill russell the goat.. LEBRON HAS 4 BEEN TO 10 FINALS LEBRON A WINNER WTF ARE YA SAYING..
BILL RUSSELLL THE 5MVPS 11 RINGS
@coreythomas3633 definitely, WILT a GOAT , BIRD an MAGIC GOATED UP...KOBE GOAT...Robert Horrey the GOAT 6 man...
BUT NOBODY Played the game like MIKE
The fact they act like LeBron has never been on teams that had a offensive system is WILD. Even in the triangle Jordan and Kobe would take over and do their own thing when they had to. Trying to criticize Mike and Kobe for being great players in a system is the most ridiculous take I've seen yet from Gil and that's saying ALOT SMFH
There is no debate; Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has 6 chips, 2nd all time rebounds, 3rd all time blocks, and the most ponits in NBA history and was never considered the greatest player in NBA history; and Kareem said he was not better than Jordan, but he said he was just as effective; and Jordan 9 times all defensive teams NBA record, 10 scoring titles the most in NBA history, 5 league MVP, why Jordan considered the GOAT (All around all time player)! but LeBron James 5 all defensive teams, 30th in rebounds all time, 80th all time blocks, and LeBron gets the most points, and somehow instantly, he's the greatest player ever with 3 and half chips; the bubble. Lol, the idea has to be delusion! Notice I didn't have to mention Jordan's championships, everybody knows that record; undefeated!
Lebrons legacy as GOAT was shot when he teamed up with other stars in Miami and then all that team jumping after that
Newsflash guy no other great player wins championships alone. You need other great players to win. See magic and Kareem, MJ and Scottie. Kobe and Shaq. You would’ve preferred LeBron stay in Cleveland with Delonte West? 😂
A Casual from 2011 😅 stuck in time
@TheLockerRoomla Bruh google how many games the cavs won and what the cavs defense was ranked. You say what you want MJ didn't have to leave😂
@@sosa8705 THEY WASNT THE BETTER TEAM THAT TEAM WAS GOOD BECAUSE OF LEBRON CLOWN.... WHEN LEBRON LEFT THEY WERE A LOTTERY YA ARE CLOWWWWNNSS
@coreythomas3633 goofy you the one that brought up Delonte West. I'm just telling you they won 60 some games with Delonte West. Don't tell me LeBron won all 60 some games by itself really lol.
Jordan never won without a point forward in Scottie Pippen and a defender/rebounder in Horace Grant & Dennis Rodman. When Horace left, Jordan didn't even make it past Horace himself, he had to get Rodman, who was a better Defender and Rebounder than Horace to make it to the finals once again. The bulls had one of the best systems of all time with great role players like Paxton and Kerr who were there when needed as well, including a great coach and front office. Every GREAT needs a team filled with talented players who have mastered their individual roles.
6 more seasons, 420 more games, 15k+ more minutes and he’s still chasing that ghost in Chicago 😂 but I’m just a casual.
Lebron worked in systems! Lebron just happen to be in eras with multiple great teams. The Spurs and Warriors in he 2010's in the same as the Pistons, Celtics and Lakers in the 80's. The Bulls run started as the Pistons, Celtics and Lakers got older. They were done in the early 90's! Kobe had Shaq 18 to 25!
We saw Jordan and Kobe without the triangle or a system they lost we never saw Lebron with the triangle or a system or hall of fame coaching Bron would have 8 chips easy
Bron is not a SG or built like MJ or Kobe 😂😂
Obviously doesn’t make sense. For anyone that’s watched lebron play he was impossible to stop for most of his career.
Kobe and Mike needed a system because playing through them wasn’t conducive to winning.. Phil even told both of them that… LEBRON IS THE SYSTEM
Labron has a 37-point average against Mccant.
1988 Jordan vs 2023 lebron ???? What do he be talking about ???!!
Rashad McCants is the same clown who said Trae Young is better than Luka the Don, and even a few years later, when Luka was an MVP candidate, he again doubled down on it, insisting Trae was still better. Typical Rashad McCants buffoonery.
And what does his skill set have anything to do with the system they play in
No one person wins a championship by them self. Mccant is just crazy.
Just wait for Charlene to make a video about this and say that salley don’t know what he talking about and he played with both Jordan and Kobe
Totally Agree
Rashad must get paid really good for all the drama he provides to the podcast. This pod cast is so entertaining mainly because of him going at it with Gil lol makes me wonder if these guys resent each other cause at times it really does feel like Rashad and gil hate each other
2:26 basically your a box score watcher 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I totally think it’s okay to think other players are better or just like other players over Bron, my problem is the LYING. 😂 like McCants is so unserious
Gil broke it down like a genius
He jus hug on lebron 🥜 can u explain y there espn worker who connected to the nba said that him n Lebalco got the same ped dealer ??!
@@Rapastoned LBJ not on PEDs 🤣🤣 y’all still say that 🤣 it’s a guy name Lebron that play baseball who used the that stop being dumb and go look it up
LeBron padded his teams just like he padded his stats so why i don't know why he's in the conversation with Jordan and Kobe
Can u explain y there a ESPN worker who connected to the nba saying him n lebron have the same ped dealer
The LOGIC is Bron is great but ain't cut from the Jordan Kobe cloth point blank period. SALUTE to Rashard👑
If mj is the greatest and kobe a mirror of mj and bron cooked kobe then whats that tell you?
Kobe is not a mirror of Jordan. Certain elements of Kobe’s game that he refined could be viewed as similar but if you watched them up close, they are definitely not mirrors.
@@rackball5858 I have they are the same person
They always lying for LeBron cause he was in a system in Miami and he didn't want to stay cause he couldn't get his way and wanted the coach fired and with that system they have went to 2 finals without him
And still can’t win 😂
@TheLockerRoomla
Remember LBJ and Kobe was on course to meet up in the finals Kobe went to three straight NBA finals without Shaq waiting on lbj the three teams that LBJ was losing to Kobe was scraping them bums in the finals.
@@BlackMamba824-su9xwyou’ve got to stop saying this dumb stuff man you’re embarrassing the real Kobe fans like myself.
@@raymondsims7042
Your no Kobe fan your a LBJ jock sniffer
@@raymondsims7042
Your a LBJ jock sniffer
Willis Reed in the 80's went 8-0 in championship 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Fired??!! Rashad McCants is one of the few that tells the truth about LeBron. No (respected) players care about stats because they understand that your stats depends on the competition level. LeBron era is soft and the only move he possess is bully smaller defenders. Also refs let him get away with what's clearly offensive fouls. With MJ and Kobe, there's moves, situations, and stats we could look at to explain their greatness. LeBron fans can only run to "over hyped" stats which he couldn't have gotten in the 90s and probably not the 80s. He's too mentally weak.
Yeah, to an idiot.
People just need to go back and watch Lebron full career and stop trying judge the Lebron lakers 🤣
Ya'll don't like McCants because he doesn't glaze Lebron. Everyone knows Lebron is the greatest pad stuffer of all time. Michael Jordan accomplished more in 15 years than Kobe and Lebron in 19-21 years. McCants is correct, media penalize kobe for playing with shaq but don't penalize Lebron for playing with Wade and Bosh.
I’m confused. Goat means “this player was just unstoppable etc” what does winning a championship (team success) have to do with the individual. Lebron played for 3 different franchises and won, and won finals mvp for all 3
Everyone has their own connotation of Goat. A majority of people that witnessed even the last 3-peat of Jordan’s(30-33+ and over) are going to always say Jordan. Wasn’t just the individual dominance mixed in with the championships. The game was never as popular or as cultural as it was then. Old ladies in non-urban towns would skip bingo or church just to see Jordan. He also had timeless moments or highlights if you will that will outlive us - 89 shot, 91 switch hand layup, free throw line dunks, crying w the trophy, shrug game, Father’s Day game, flu game, buzzer beater on Russell, 98 finals.
To me that’s more impressive than Jordan being 6-0
Bron might be the best but Rashad aint wrong.
Lebron goat james.
Thank about this saying somebody that played don’t know the game . But somebody that never played knows more ?
Facts is, Lebron is uncoachable. Cant talk Rashad dumb take, and then use 1-9 without Pippen. Thats the most idiotic take of all time. When MJ went 2-9, Pippen had 0 points. When the bulls won that series, Pippen averaged like 9ppg and MJ averaged 45.
MJ A LOSER WITHOUT SCOTTIE STOP IT MJ A LOSER
LBJ played in the no DEF era and no he doesn't have the skill set Jordan and Kobe has. Stop talking about the scoring title he got that from longegvity. Kareem all time scorer getting 2pts not 3pts. LBJ no post game doesn't know how to take advantage of weaker or smaller defenders. Only head down drive or shooting long 3s.
Rashad was making a good point until his bias kicked in and he started giving bad examples to his argument .
What y'all saying that players don't matter it's all about coaches but Phil Jackson was also in New York coaching
After hearing what you just said I am done with the debate. Most guys apply emotion over especially them during Jordan era guys. Look I am Laker first above all, KoBE is still and was my man during the Jordan also acknowledging Jordan as thee for era and time. But one thing I tell you, that boiii called LeBron is something else. And using rings is stupid cause one can have from sitting on the bench. Is Kuzma better than Buttler?
Exactly 💯
@@TheLockerRoomla also checked out the debate on Lamount, one thing is that you had most points especially about defends, D-Lo cost us bad. And also you cannot blame the leader when he delivers as requested, and the role players were not coming up to par with him. Am glad them Chicken Nuggets was out, but I cannot put it all on Joker. That is weak basketball IQ, I gave up the time he couldn't agree on Hayes having less fouls especially during the playoffs. Showed does not cover our games the way he claims. Coach my ass, I feel sorry for the team Lamount coaching. Basketball and Boxing are not the same. In boxing blame goes on the player cause he is the one in the ring but team sport, there is more to look into, than just that one player.
This ninja bugging. Listen, give MJ & Kobe ALREADY PROVEN talent like Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, or AD & see how many chips they would’ve won!! Phil didn’t make the triangle, Tex Winters did. MJ & Kobe made the best out of it. All the players I’ve named were better than Gasol & you can say a young Pippen who got his game up while playing with MJ. They both made their co star better while LBJ didn’t make none of his co stars better. They had to get on board & adjust their ALREADY HOF type games to play with LBJ.
Robert Horry was the face of the NBA when he won those rings with that logic that would mean Satch Sanders is better than Horry right? 🤣
Bro wat team did he lead when did he become a all star or number 1 option lol clowns
THE KID WAS 18 YEARS OLD HIGH SCHOOL TO NBA
So basically what you’re saying is if Michael Jordan is black Jesus then LeBron James is God and that would make Kobe Bryant the Holy Spirit
@@OverDog-hw1rz you JDR’s are so emotionally damaged 😭😢😢😿
Bron had to create superteams to win. That’s the difference. The other two stayed with their team and won.
Well yeah but to be fair that’s because they had significantly better front offices that got them better pieces
@@raymondsims7042You don’t win 66 & 61 games in back to back years unless your team is solid. That Cavs team was to surround Lebron with a strong enough defensive unit & let Lebron orchestrate the offense. Lebron has to carry the weight of blame: 2007(shitty finals performance - 22ppg, 35% shooting, 6 turnovers a game.) 2009( great stats but critical misses & turnovers in crunch time) 2010(last 3 games were abysmal). The 2011 Finals shouldn’t have been surprising when you factor those performances in.
@@rackball5858 I’m not saying he didn’t play bad in the 07 finals but they were only there because of lebron come on man. We people talked about playing those teams it was always “Were going against lebron” and that’s it😂🤷♂️you know this
When Kobe got out the system and ball hogged, look at the how many points Kobe had! If Jordan didn't have the teammates he had with the bulls, the points he had!
Mind you, Lebron had to go to a system with Pat Riley, in Miami!
So the same argument LeBron didnt have nobody in Cleveland, Jordan didn't have nobody his earlier years!
Mind you if Jordan never retired twice wheat would his numbers and championships be like!
So Lebron not retiring at all, and Jordan retired twice!
So if we really slice it and dice it!
Who in their right minds count Lebron's championship ring in the bubble?
So really what are we talking about!
The dude in the red is always coming with so bum takes...constantly contradicting his self. He did it with K- Mart.
Mike without the triangle he goes home, true.
This would probably be my favorite show if Rashad McCants wasn't on it. You know how they always say that if you haven't played the game then you don't know the game. McCants is a perfect reason why that whole analogy goes out the window. Smh.
He's kind of necessary 😂
They're all clueless Mcants just extra these idiots debating mj wouldn't win if he left and teamed up with magic and bird😂😅
Every show need a clown 🤡 lol
So Kobe and MJ are considered by some to be better than Lebron because of Tex Winter?
Kobe nor MJ had any team success without Phil Jackson! Their teams were bottom feeders every year without Phil! The is nothing to go off on in their careers to show they can make any situation into a contender they just turn into these volumes scorers on fridge playoff teams or teams that don’t make the playoffs at all!
Jordan my Goat not bc
6 ring he'z my goat 🐐
bc I think he jus A flatout
better winner than my second
Goat baby goat James 🐐
Let'z B honest baby goat James
lost 2 many game with him NOT
going out swinging 2 many
game regular season & all of we
being real here